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Title: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: SIM on October 06, 2020, 03:51:42 PM
Died today after a battle with throat cancer.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: guncrasher on October 06, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
dang it, last time i saw him play was in two and a half men. 2 burritos and a rootbeer float.


semp
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Mako- on October 06, 2020, 04:47:03 PM
Bummer, RIP Eddie  :rock
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Devil 505 on October 06, 2020, 04:59:41 PM
 :salute
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Biggles on October 06, 2020, 05:52:20 PM
RIP Eddie. I hope they removed all the brown M&Ms up in heaven! They better have!
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Mano on October 06, 2020, 06:19:29 PM
R I P

 :salute

prayers for his family
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: RELIC on October 06, 2020, 09:37:54 PM
An amazing guitarist.  He was influenced by those who came before, but took that to an new level and influenced decades of guitarists after.  NOBODY else can say that for my generation.  RIP Eddie.  I Don't Feel Tardy!  :rock
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Eagler on October 07, 2020, 05:36:17 AM
Back when MTV was a music channel

RIP Eddie

Eagler
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Shuffler on October 07, 2020, 07:28:22 AM
Back when MTV was a music channel

RIP Eddie

Eagler

Yes!!

RIP Eddie
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Brooke on October 07, 2020, 01:33:01 PM
An interview with Eddie Van Halen 5 years ago at Smithsonian National Museum of American History.

Lots of interesting stuff in this one that I didn't previously know.

Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 07, 2020, 05:24:53 PM
Sad to see another real musician pass away.  :frown:
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 07, 2020, 06:25:49 PM
An interview with Eddie Van Halen 5 years ago at Smithsonian National Museum of American History.

Lots of interesting stuff in this one that I didn't previously know.



That truly was a wonderful interview.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: morfiend on October 08, 2020, 11:51:47 AM
It's said Eddie invented the hammerons for guitar and while he was a talented musician he didnt invent the style. That goes back to a musician who played with Arthur Brown's crazy world and later formed the band called Atomic Rooster.

  His name is John Du Cann,you can look up some old Rooster on Utube and see his work,then watch Van Halen,when Eddie actually lets you see what he's doing.

  Rip Eddie,maybe in another 20 years or so Keith Richards will join you.


     :salute
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Brooke on October 08, 2020, 02:01:03 PM
Keith Richards has mastered various arcane arts and rituals such that he cannot be killed by conventional weapons or natural maladies.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Biggles on December 31, 2024, 11:05:13 AM
It's said Eddie invented the hammerons for guitar and while he was a talented musician he didnt invent the style. That goes back to a musician who played with Arthur Brown's crazy world and later formed the band called Atomic Rooster.

  His name is John Du Cann,you can look up some old Rooster on Utube and see his work,then watch Van Halen,when Eddie actually lets you see what he's doing.

  Rip Eddie,maybe in another 20 years or so Keith Richards will join you.


     :salute

Atomic Rooster also featured a fantastic keyboard player name Vincent Crane.  I've been a fan of AR since 1971.  "Death Walks Behind You".
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: icepac on January 03, 2025, 10:32:37 AM

What people are now noticing is what Eddie does between solos.

He knows how to announce a storm of a solo is coming, fit the solo to the song, and he knows how to get back to the song from the solo.   

All one has to do is listen to the album "Fair Warning" to hear his amazing rhythm guitar playing.

Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Animl-AW on January 03, 2025, 11:24:02 AM
What people are now noticing is what Eddie does between solos.

He knows how to announce a storm of a solo is coming, fit the solo to the song, and he knows how to get back to the song from the solo.   

All one has to do is listen to the album "Fair Warning" to hear his amazing rhythm guitar playing.

Me thinks his fluent ability to coordinate both hands on the fret board comes from the same coordination of playing the piano/keyboard. Keyboard and guitar playing go hand in hand, easier for one to learn the other.

I wish I could remember the name, Larry something I think,… a black guy … everything he played was 100% both hands on fret board, no pick at all. Played some really cool stuff, it just wasn’t man stream, more like smooth jazz.

Glad someone posted this, great interview.

EV is/was a monster. But Randy Rhodes not far behind.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: morfiend on January 05, 2025, 02:24:51 PM
Me thinks his fluent ability to coordinate both hands on the fret board comes from the same coordination of playing the piano/keyboard. Keyboard and guitar playing go hand in hand, easier for one to learn the other.

I wish I could remember the name, Larry something I think,… a black guy … everything he played was 100% both hands on fret board, no pick at all. Played some really cool stuff, it just wasn’t man stream, more like smooth jazz.

Glad someone posted this, great interview.



EV is/was a monster. But Randy Rhodes not far behind.


I heard a podcast about the Van halens and they said Eddie started out learning the piano.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Animl-AW on January 06, 2025, 02:46:17 PM

I heard a podcast about the Van halens and they said Eddie started out learning the piano.

Pretty sure thats true, may have been mentioned above. I think I heard it decades ago. As soon as I did it made sense of similar cords on the keyboard and fretboard. He does play KB parts of songs, nothing complicated tho.

The way the brains of Eddie, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Randy Rhoads flow is stunning. They rarely pause to regroup into the next riff. Its one steady flow. Players like David Gilmour will pause.a little.
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Tumor on January 18, 2025, 02:12:35 PM

I heard a podcast about the Van halens and they said Eddie started out learning the piano.

There's some hilarity involved with EVH's "...learning the piano".   Saw him talk about this in an interview (no idea which one).  So as a kid, he's taking piano lessons, entering and winning local competitions.  The fun part I think eludes to his musical genius.  Well into his lessons, one day his piano instructor is playing the piano (from sheet music) and tells EVH to turn the page of music for him as he's playing.  Eddie couldn't do it because he was lost, he never learned to read a note of music.  All along he'd been watching/hearing the instructor play and repeating it.

In another interview he said his most profound "gift" was having a good ear.

The man will never be matched.  Check this out: https://youtu.be/0GJO2SovRgU?t=734
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Animl-AW on January 19, 2025, 09:28:57 AM
There's some hilarity involved with EVH's "...learning the piano".   Saw him talk about this in an interview (no idea which one).  So as a kid, he's taking piano lessons, entering and winning local competitions.  The fun part I think eludes to his musical genius.  Well into his lessons, one day his piano instructor is playing the piano (from sheet music) and tells EVH to turn the page of music for him as he's playing.  Eddie couldn't do it because he was lost, he never learned to read a note of music.  All along he'd been watching/hearing the instructor play and repeating it.

In another interview he said his most profound "gift" was having a good ear.

The man will never be matched.  Check this out: https://youtu.be/0GJO2SovRgU?t=734

It may be shocking to some how many musicians can’t read music. They know where it is on the instrument, not so much on paper.

Also, you can think of reading music as keeping you in line. Which can inhibit venturing outside that discipline.

Its also hard to duplicate Hendrix. Unless you play a gtr upside down. Even then, not easy. I don’t think he read music either. 

His thing was live he was a bit sloppy. OTOH , Van Halen sounded as good live as on record.

This is a 1hr video so to get to the point start at about 10:00. Deweezil Zappa explains learning from Eddie


Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Animl-AW on January 24, 2025, 04:39:44 PM
This is who I was tryin to think of a while back. Prolly not some's taste in music, but the the hammering talent is down. Just wait for it
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Tumor on January 24, 2025, 11:55:30 PM
This is who I was tryin to think of a while back. Prolly not some's taste in music, but the the hammering talent is down. Just wait for it


Pretty sure that guy did a cameo in some movie or another... no idea what it was. 
Title: Re: Eddie Van Halen
Post by: Animl-AW on January 25, 2025, 02:31:34 PM
Kinda resembles a young Denzel Washington. As far as what it is, dunno what people were thinking on wardrobe back then, other than “look at me”. If that's what you’re referring to.

IMO, this is a gimmick skill.

But if does sorta illustrate  ties between piano and gtr..