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Title: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 20, 2020, 01:37:12 AM
We have had a few recent "threads" about ENY lately! Really hate to start another, just didnt want to get lost in the thread...so to speak :uhoh   ENY hasnt bothered me for YEARS NOW! ENY, was the Force, that introduced me to Early War Birds...so cant hate ENY! :rock   Would it make a difference, if ENY affected "Object Hardness's" or "Down Times" instead of Plane Choice ? How hard to Code this? IMHO, this just might be a FIX?(and have available, a case of Scottlands BEST to try it out) Folk can still fly Late War planes(maybe stopping player drop offs) but the "STRONG TEAM" would need to coordinate to a higher level!(IE missions and TEAM WORK...which is lacking these days). It would give the Disadvantaged Side a check, on the Strong side, even if all planes were equal?  I bring this up, because it is already obvious, that Country Loyalty hinders ENY offsets. To me, this application would be easier to swallow? YES... there will always be detractors...just want to see what you Brothers think :salute
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: LCADolby on October 20, 2020, 05:13:02 AM
Really wish someone could teach Mindy's gimp how to formulate paragraphs.  :old:

On the question of his suggestion; It wouldn't work, as (simplified) 10xP51s vs 2xP51s/5xTigerTanks vs 2xTiger Tanks are still a gameplay balance issue.

ENY balances Effectiveness. Only the selfish have an issue with ENY or sit in the tower because of it. ENY is not the problem, the players are.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: popeye on October 20, 2020, 07:07:20 AM
I have suggested adjusting downtimes as a substitute for ENY, but the idea didn't seem to get any support.

Scaling downtimes according to side numbers balance mitigates the high-number side's advantage and also creates an incentive to attack that high-number side, rather then join in a 2v1 against the low-number side.  Adjusted downtimes would also reduce the time spent resupplying or guarding prepped fields against sneaks -- the most boring activities in the game.

That said, I'm sure there would be a way to game the downtime scheme.   :D
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Shuffler on October 20, 2020, 09:15:45 AM
No matter.... some people will complain if they can't hord in their monster machines.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: The Fugitive on October 20, 2020, 11:07:18 AM
There has been a number of good suggestions to help with ENY or replace it but much like adding planes/vehicles I think Hitech is done with Aces High. My guess is the next update we will see....... other than maintenance updates..... will be to the web page when he announces the date the game will be shutting  down.

Its too bad, I think the game has so much potential left in such a small market. It could easily be the top in subscriptions/popularity again, it just needs some updating to keep up with the changing times in the online gaming industry.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Hajo on October 20, 2020, 12:51:35 PM
Oh no!  Not another thread on ENY!!!!  I dint know their were this many children in game that could all cry at the same time.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2020, 01:16:47 PM
There has been a number of good suggestions to help with ENY or replace it but much like adding planes/vehicles I think Hitech is done with Aces High. My guess is the next update we will see....... other than maintenance updates..... will be to the web page when he announces the date the game will be shutting  down.

Its too bad, I think the game has so much potential left in such a small market. It could easily be the top in subscriptions/popularity again, it just needs some updating to keep up with the changing times in the online gaming industry.

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/c1/9f/8dc19fec38a27de374ab565926e1a52f.png)
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Wiley on October 20, 2020, 01:25:09 PM
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/8d/c1/9f/8dc19fec38a27de374ab565926e1a52f.png)

One of these days, the guys that have been saying this for the last 19 years or so are going to be able to go, "SEE?!  We were right!!"

Wiley.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 20, 2020, 01:37:29 PM
I like this idea of reducing damage or down times. I think it goes right along with how ENY hurts attack planes the most. Id rather have people in planes bombing stuff than for them to be sitting in the tower figuring out what galopee they are going to fly next. Making all of these planes unplayable is terrible for New sticks.

Or just perk the planes as the ENY increases.

Switching sides is boring as there might not be a fight over there. You cannot get 5 people to switch sides. If you are the only one switching teams, its not going to make any difference in ENY or unfairness in #s. I think with 3 sides and low #s, you have to come to the conclusion that one team will always have minimal #s.

People want action, not flying Microsoft flight simulator in your P51 after switching sides to a team with 5 players who aren't doing much and who aren't being attacked.

I switched to the low #s side the other day, the fight died after an hour. I was stuck. My team with the low #s were now hoarding the other side. The other teams began fighting each other. I left as it was boring and couldn't switch back.

By eliminating planes during off hours, ENY is merely just giving a great incentive to log off as you cant fly what you want, and unfortunately can't play any other time periods. It's a great damper on the off hours players to not get to fight the way you want.

I honestly don't blame the guys for these complaints.

A low #s team is only fighting 3-5 guys anyway, that's really not an embalance if your low #s team is fighting against them. A 3 on 5 fight is normal and sometimes even the low #s team has more players in the current fight.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 20, 2020, 01:56:43 PM
Really wish someone could teach Mindy's gimp how to formulate paragraphs.  :old:


Cmon man thats a low blow for a guy standing up for a girl who was being mistreated in here. Going after someone over 1v1s and such is one thing. Calling a girl a woman pretetender is pretty low for AH players and she deserved to be stood up for.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 20, 2020, 03:43:11 PM
Oh no!  Not another thread on ENY!!!!  I dint know their were this many children in game that could all cry at the same time.
:rofl Wasnt crying thread. Its just when I hear it in game, it stays on my mind :uhoh Maybe letting cry babies do there thing and ignoring them is better? It just sticks with me! Has to be a better way? Eh, folk will do what they do no matter how much you fix stuff because its different.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 20, 2020, 03:46:09 PM
Really wish someone could teach Mindy's gimp how to formulate paragraphs.  :old:

On the question of his suggestion; It wouldn't work, as (simplified) 10xP51s vs 2xP51s/5xTigerTanks vs 2xTiger Tanks are still a gameplay balance issue.

ENY balances Effectiveness. Only the selfish have an issue with ENY or sit in the tower because of it. ENY is not the problem, the players are.
:rofl Yes, sentence structure is NOT a priority. I have a hard enough time just typing..and trying to get it down...its an MS thing, sorry.   
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 20, 2020, 03:52:20 PM
Cmon man thats a low blow for a guy standing up for a girl who was being mistreated in here. Going after someone over 1v1s and such is one thing. Calling a girl a woman pretetender is pretty low for AH players and she deserved to be stood up for.
:aok  :salute
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2020, 05:08:26 PM
Because what we really needed was a third ENY thread. C'mon 1stpar!
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: TheBug on October 20, 2020, 05:59:56 PM
Because what we really needed was a third ENY thread. C'mon 1stpar!

You seem to enjoy occupying them all.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 20, 2020, 06:01:25 PM
You seem to enjoy occupying them all.

You're beginning too, as well. (Stop following me.)  :D
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: CAV on October 20, 2020, 06:53:18 PM
Quote
My guess is the next update we will see....... other than maintenance updates..... will be to the web page when he announces the date the game will be shutting  down.



this is the way I see it too... which is why I'm logging a lot more time in WW2OL and IL-2.

CAV

(WW2OL is still adding equipment and doing updates, by the way.)
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Shuffler on October 20, 2020, 08:38:39 PM
I think if you spent less time posting about eny and more time flying, the problem you perceive would go away.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: guncrasher on October 20, 2020, 11:13:49 PM
I played (still playing) for 3-4 hours and we havent had eny yet.  except for a 5 minute period when it went to 8. 9 pm pst, 2.3 eny.


semp
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: guncrasher on October 21, 2020, 12:44:01 AM
damn it, i played for 5 hours with no eny, only got a couple of sorties on the p51, too busy bombing this or that.  10:30 pm pst, we have 12 eny.

how do I post I quit thread till tomorrow?


semp
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 21, 2020, 02:00:17 AM
Because what we really needed was a third ENY thread. C'mon 1stpar!
Sorry Brother! I did this, as to not get overlooked? Honestly wanted you guy's thoughts! I dont know how...but WISH DESPERATELY to, AT LEAST keep the players we have! It was done in Love Of The Game! The "WHINE" was strong, Sunday! I was just trying to "Put out an idea" and NOT ANOTHER WHINE Thread? Guess I failed? I didnt post/start this as a "POOR ME", ENY wont let me fly my Spit16! I could care less about ENY! It was all about how OTHERS are impacted by ENY! I cherish each and every one of you guys!
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2020, 07:39:28 AM
I cherish each and every one of you guys!

I know that. Feeling's mutual, as far as I'm concerned.  :salute :cheers:
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Vinkman on October 21, 2020, 01:15:22 PM
No ENY formulation will ever make people happy. It only creates frustration to individual players that are effected by it. It can't make people happy, because the people it's intended to help don't know it's helping them.   :salute
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2020, 01:21:42 PM
No ENY formulation will ever make people happy. It only creates frustration to individual players that are effected by it. It can't make people happy, because the people it's intended to help don't know it's helping them.   :salute

'People' is a projection. If you mean you, say you.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Vinkman on October 21, 2020, 02:05:18 PM
'People' is a projection. If you mean you, say you.

Me and everyone else who complains about it. I'm allowed to include them in my analysis.

You're still avoiding the question.  :D
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2020, 02:11:27 PM
Me and everyone else who complains about it. I'm allowed to include them in my analysis.

You're still avoiding the question.  :D

I've not avoided the question. I've addressed the actual situation (your issue) in one of the other ENY threads that are supposed to make this a crisis by multiplication. Feel free to include all half dozen of the players you feel share your angst over ENY. 'People', however, gives a false impression of which you are either unaware or unconcerned and is a reckless way of attempting to add more weight to a complaint that doesn't deserve such.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Vinkman on October 21, 2020, 02:19:18 PM
I've not avoided the question. I've addressed the actual situation (your issue) in one of the other ENY threads that are supposed to make this a crisis by multiplication. Feel free to include all half dozen of the players you feel share your angst over ENY. 'People', however, gives a false impression of which you are either unaware or unconcerned and is a reckless way of attempting to add more weight to a complaint that doesn't deserve such.

See other thread.
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2020, 02:20:17 PM
See other thread.

Really? Now you're interested in keeping it all in one thread?  :rofl
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Vinkman on October 21, 2020, 05:45:20 PM
Really? Now you're interested in keeping it all in one thread?  :rofl

ARLO must be some acronym for “Must have the last word”
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 21, 2020, 05:49:46 PM
ARLO must be some acronym for “Must have the last word”

You don't seem to understand how acronyms work, either.  ;)

Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Vinkman on October 22, 2020, 05:49:07 AM
You don't seem to understand how acronyms work, either.  ;)

proof positive.  :azn:
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: LCADolby on October 22, 2020, 06:00:47 AM
Vink's all about his score and rank, Arlo is all about his post count... When different ways of destructive thinking collide  :bolt:
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 22, 2020, 06:46:54 AM
Because when you reach a certain number of posts you're not allowed to post anymore or players like Dolby will get their feewings hurt.  :D
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: 1stpar3 on October 22, 2020, 07:08:22 AM
Because when you reach a certain number of posts you're not allowed to post anymore or players like Dolby will get their feewings hurt.  :D
:rofl DAMN I LOVE YOU!!! :rofl AND here you were....admonishing me for"Yet again an ENY THREAD" :rofl  :rofl
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 22, 2020, 07:11:11 AM
:rofl DAMN I LOVE YOU!!! :rofl AND here you were....admonishing me for"Yet again an ENY THREAD" :rofl  :rofl

I apologize.  :o
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: LCADolby on October 22, 2020, 03:13:35 PM
You are pure diddlying cancer Arlo
Title: Re: Thoughts on ENY
Post by: Arlo on October 22, 2020, 05:38:16 PM
You are pure diddlying cancer Arlo

Trust me, I had nothing to do with your diddle cancer.