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Title: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Greebo on November 03, 2020, 10:43:51 AM
Thanks to Lyric1 for his help in finding and interpreting the photos of this aircraft.

"Bat Out of Hell" was the P-38G of Lt. James Hagenback of the 94th Fighter Squadron while based in Sardinia in the second half of 1943. As well as the distinctive bat painted across the nose his aircraft featured red spinners for Med theatre ID and the 94th's yellow wingtips squadron ID marking.

As part of the 1st Fighter Group, the 94th flew missions over Northern France as part of the 8th Air Force for a couple of months from June 1942 before joining the 12th Air Force in the Mediterranean in August. They fought in the Tunisia, Sicily and Italy campaigns, flying both bomber escort and ground attack sorties. In November 1943 they became part of the 15th Air Force and from then until the end of the war flew long range escort missions to targets in Southern Europe.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401591.0;attach=33419)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=401591.0;attach=33421)
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Vraciu on November 03, 2020, 10:45:51 AM
Beautiful. 

The nose art is fabulous.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: whiteman on November 03, 2020, 10:59:30 AM
Awesome! Bet that was much more pleasant to do than with the previous map.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: oboe on November 03, 2020, 11:17:07 AM
Whatta great looking '38!

The Olive Drab looks perfect to me, both in shade and sheen.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: lyric1 on November 03, 2020, 11:38:19 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Shuffler on November 03, 2020, 12:29:59 PM
WOW I'll be flying a G for awhile now :D
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Greebo on November 03, 2020, 01:32:49 PM
Thanks guys. This scheme wouldn't have really worked on the old shape, the top and bottom of the fuselage on that were stretched horizontally. So the bat's hair and teeth would have had big gaps down the centre lines, imagine a reverse Mohawk hair do with its front teeth knocked out. On the new P-38s there is a tiny bit of stretching at one spot just below the nose, but nothing compared to the old one.

The olive drab's the same I've used before (RGB 83/79/61) but on this skin the brown dirt layers and the de-saturation layers are heavier which affects the colour. The lighting effects are done the way I described it in the old P-38 build log thread.

I'll also get a J and an L done this month in time for the next skins review, haven't decided what exactly ones yet but probably an NMF PTO J and an MTO or ETO L.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Volron on November 03, 2020, 02:34:18 PM
And so it begins.  I'm so looking forward to seeing what is put on the table. :aok


Also; Wasn't there a couple of skins someone (maybe you?) mentioned for the 38, but would not even remotely attempt due to the fact that they simply would not look good no matter what you did?  Do you have those on the burner?
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: RichardDarkwood on November 03, 2020, 02:55:38 PM
very nice
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Devil 505 on November 03, 2020, 03:11:51 PM
Beautiful job, Greebo.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: SIK1 on November 03, 2020, 10:12:07 PM
Very cool.  :aok   I always liked the G.

 :salute
Sik

Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Greebo on November 04, 2020, 04:31:27 AM
Also; Wasn't there a couple of skins someone (maybe you?) mentioned for the 38, but would not even remotely attempt due to the fact that they simply would not look good no matter what you did?  Do you have those on the burner?

I don't think it was me, but there are certainly a lot of schemes that wouldn't have looked good on the old P-38 shape. Anything with complex art that wraps round the nose, shark mouths or checkers for example.

I'm not planning too far ahead at the moment until I know what other skinners are doing WRT P-38 skins. For the first few skins I'll just try to cover as many scenario bases as possible with the schemes I choose, i.e. MTO, ETO, PTO, D Day etc.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Vraciu on November 04, 2020, 10:05:34 AM
I intend to maybe do CURLY SIX, GENTLE ANNIE, and LITTLE RED HEAD II.  Although I've contemplated just updating my current Mustang stuff then calling it a day.   Guess we'll see how long it takes me to finish this template.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Greebo on November 04, 2020, 10:42:38 AM
I know it can be hard to get motivated to redo your template when a shape gets updated, this is the seventh time its happened to me. The new P-38 template is a huge improvement over the old one though and after you complete your first template the other two need only a little extra work to convert over so you get three variants for the price of one.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Vraciu on November 04, 2020, 11:11:43 AM
Thanks, G.  Yeah, I'm kinda bummed.   I was finally figuring out the previous template so this one is gonna be a grind.   Thankfully your default is beautifully done so it gives me a great resource to pattern off of.   

Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Owlblink on November 04, 2020, 06:44:35 PM
That looks AMAZING greebo! Can’t wait to fly it!

I’m sure you guys have noticed the Fuselage texture clipping through the 38 cockpit on the left and right side just under the windows. I’m going to try to find the screenshots when I get home to post up on the bugs section.

I’m super excited to see all the new skins coming down! Oboe, I hope you will get your new template going.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Vraciu on November 04, 2020, 06:48:49 PM
(Disregard.)

Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Devil 505 on November 04, 2020, 07:15:15 PM
I’m sure you guys have noticed the Fuselage texture clipping through the 38 cockpit on the left and right side just under the windows. I’m going to try to find the screenshots when I get home to post up on the bugs section.

When are you seeing this happen?

I remember seeing a similar thing on the Zeros after they were remodeled when watching films. Turns out it was caused by moving the camera outside of the cockpit in 1st person (in cockpit) mode. Once you switch to external mode, they displayed fine.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Owlblink on November 04, 2020, 07:22:53 PM
Sorry to derail the post with my observation.
I am noticing it all the time in VR mode. I have not checked out to see what it looks like on desktop yet. Tabbing in and out of the program has no impact. It isn’t a huge issue as it doesn’t obscure anything important, just an aesthetic issue. I should be home in an hour and I’ll go digging to find where my screenshots are saving.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Shuffler on November 04, 2020, 08:20:25 PM
Not noticed on desktop.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Devil 505 on November 04, 2020, 08:53:27 PM
Sorry to derail the post with my observation.
I am noticing it all the time in VR mode. I have not checked out to see what it looks like on desktop yet. Tabbing in and out of the program has no impact. It isn’t a huge issue as it doesn’t obscure anything important, just an aesthetic issue. I should be home in an hour and I’ll go digging to find where my screenshots are saving.
Not noticed on desktop.

So this is seeing the exterior from inside the cockpit?

What I saw on the Zeke was opposite.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Nefarious on November 06, 2020, 12:42:08 PM
This skin is amazing. Awesome work! Can't wait to see new P-38 skins roll off your and Oboe's assembly line! <S>
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Vraciu on November 06, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
This skin is amazing. Awesome work! Can't wait to see new P-38 skins roll off your and Oboe's assembly line! <S>

Somebody is just trying too hard.

Lol. 

Petty.
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Owlblink on November 06, 2020, 06:24:51 PM
I’m sure you guys have noticed the Fuselage texture clipping through the 38 cockpit on the left and right side just under the windows. I’m going to try to find the screenshots when I get home to post up on the bugs section.

I posted a link to a google doc folder in the bugs forum with 3 screenshots showing the clipping. Here's the thread it is posted under:
https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,401527.msg5322043.html#msg5322043
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: 800nate800 on November 09, 2020, 03:05:59 PM
 :devil me like
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: Arlo on November 09, 2020, 04:43:09 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/i7xhIdG.png)
Title: Re: Bat Out of Hell
Post by: fuzeman on November 15, 2020, 04:06:16 PM
Holy P-38 Batman