Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 10, 2020, 12:02:49 PM
wrong thread
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 10, 2020, 02:17:12 PM
We wave at eachother and say howdy. You see some who do not these days but you have to understand that many here have moved here. We have a lot of kalifornians moving here that have not been here long enough to pick up the habit.
Elon even moved here.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 10, 2020, 02:49:38 PM
been to Texas many times, nobody ever said howdy to me. they said hi or hello or welcome.
do miss the turkey legs. best everywhere.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 10, 2020, 03:14:48 PM
Dallas, el paso, Amarillo, those i spent at least a day. visited basically all major cities for a few hours, just to look around. still miss that little restaurant just w of Dallas that served armadillo or was it possum? can't remember but it was tasty.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 10, 2020, 04:26:57 PM
Scarborough Faire. Not available this year, however.
not sure if it's the same as the state fair. was staying in a hotel by ah office, to embarrassed to stop and say hello.
had to say, i never had a bad meal anywhere in texas. and no didn't visited a single Mexican restaurant. we have plenty here. also had the 72 ounce steak, wasn't bad. can't remember where, think somewhere on the 10 close to Louisiana.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 10, 2020, 04:40:05 PM
not sure if it's the same as the state fair. was staying in a hotel by ah office, to embarrassed to stop and say hello.
had to say, i never had a bad meal anywhere in texas. and no didn't visited a single Mexican restaurant. we have plenty here. also had the 72 ounce steak, wasn't bad. can't remember where, think somewhere on the 10 close to Louisiana.
semp
72 oz. steak is an Amarillo thang. :D
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 10, 2020, 04:46:04 PM
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Windycty on December 10, 2020, 08:43:02 PM
I lived in Houston for 5 years, worked at HOU as an aircraft mechanic on KingAirs and Hawker Jets. I kinda miss Whataburger but Portillo's in Chicago beats everything.
-Windy
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 11, 2020, 12:05:33 PM
Well Bless some other great states too like:
Arkansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Tennessee, Alabama, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Utah, and West Virginia.
My home state of AZ unfortunately isn’t deserving of it anymore...too many have moved here that don’t want any blessing.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 11, 2020, 12:22:13 PM
They do have it in their Constitution where they can decide to leave the US iirc.
Idk maybe that’s been amended though?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on December 11, 2020, 05:05:47 PM
Are Texans that insecure about themselves that they need a thread dedicated to discussing how great Texas allegedly is?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Widewing on December 11, 2020, 06:23:02 PM
SCOTUS has dismissed the Texas complaint stating that Texas lacks standing. However, the court's ruling is steering the suit to that who should file suit. No mention of the case's merit. Only that one must have standing to file it. Round two coming up... In short, the court cannot rule upon a case where the plaintiff lacks standing. What the court said in between the lines is that when someone with standing files (Trump), they will hear the case... Clock is ticking.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 11, 2020, 08:59:29 PM
Yes, the US Constitution supercedes any state trying to leave the Union.
Yes, Scalia wrote: “The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, 'one Nation, indivisible.')”
That wasn’t what I said. I was talking about the Texas Constitution...
I was never suggesting they would. Just that they believe their Constitution says they could break up into multiple states or leave...true or not.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 11, 2020, 09:48:20 PM
Yes, the US Constitution supercedes any state trying to leave the Union.
Yes, Scalia wrote: “The answer is clear,” Scalia wrote. “If there was any constitutional issue resolved by the Civil War, it is that there is no right to secede. (Hence, in the Pledge of Allegiance, 'one Nation, indivisible.')”
That wasn’t what I said. I was talking about the Texas Constitution...
I was never suggesting they would. Just that they believe their Constitution says they could break up into multiple states or leave...true or not.
checked this out and found out that the us constitution says nothing about leaving the union.
it was a court case that decided that. lots of interesting reading in that subject.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 12, 2020, 06:32:02 AM
Texas was it's own country for some time.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: perdue3 on December 12, 2020, 07:51:28 AM
‘It became its own country, called the Republic of Texas, from 1836 until it agreed to join the United States in 1845. Sixteen years later, it seceded along with 10 other states to form the Confederacy. The Civil War forced it back into the Union, where it has stayed ever since’
‘It became its own country, called the Republic of Texas, from 1836 until it agreed to join the United States in 1845. Sixteen years later, it seceded along with 10 other states to form the Confederacy. The Civil War forced it back into the Union, where it has stayed ever since’
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 12, 2020, 12:23:23 PM
Also in that link is what I was referring to:
Texas could split into five states. Contrary to popular belief, Texas has no more right to secede than any other state. But its 1845 annexation agreement does permit its division into as many as five states without federal approval. “The joke is that if there were five states, then who would get the Alamo?” Brinkman said. “Or would it be a pie ridge radiating out from that site?” No serious attempt at splitting up Texas has been made since Reconstruction, and the idea has never been tested in the courts. Nonetheless, the state’s hypothetical partition still gets kicked around occasionally. In 1969, for example, a state senator proposed a 51st state within Texas that would be open to parimutuel betting, while in 1991 a state representative introduced a bill to turn the panhandle into a state called “Old Texas.”
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 12, 2020, 01:30:52 PM
old Texas? that reminds me, we have a state called new California and i believe new Arizona. both joined the texas lawsuit.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: BoilerDown on December 12, 2020, 08:32:54 PM
As far as I can see, Texas just keeps losing and embarrassing itself, then losing again. I suppose Texas saved face by having its football game cancelled today. Then again, Texas should have had to forfeit instead of being able to cancel, they were the ones that had uncontrolled spread of covid, not Kansas.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Maverick on December 13, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
About the right to secede question. https://www.tiltingthescales.com/2012/12/19/909/
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 13, 2020, 10:12:47 AM
The Constitution, as people who have studied the Constitutional Convention know, is not a list of the rights YOU HAVE, it's a restriction on what the government can do TO YOU.
Both Jefferson and Adams, two key Founding Fathers, recognized the right of a state to withdraw from the Union.
...In a January 29, 1804 letter to Dr. Joseph Priestley, who had asked Jefferson his opinion of the New England secession movement that was gaining momentum, he wrote: “Whether we remain in one confederacy, or form into Atlantic and Mississippi confederacies, I believe not very important to the happiness of either part. Those of the western confederacy will be as much our children & descendants as those of the eastern . . . and did I now foresee a separation at some future day, yet should feel the duty & the desire to promote the western interests as zealously as the eastern, doing all the good for both portions of our future family...” Jefferson offered the same opinion to John C. Breckinridge on August 12, 1803 when New Englanders were threatening secession after the Louisiana purchase. If there were a “separation,” he wrote, “God bless them both & keep them in the union if it be for their good, but separate them, if it be better.”
Everyone understood that the union of the states was voluntary and that, as Virginia, Rhode Island, and New York stated in their constitutional ratification documents, each state had a right to withdraw from the union at some future date if that union became harmful to its interests...
...John Quincy Adams, the quintessential New England Yankee, echoed these Jeffersonian sentiments in an 1839 speech in which he said that if different states or groups of states came into irrepressible conflict, then that “will be the time for reverting to the precedents which occurred at the formation and adoption of the Constitution, to form again a more perfect union by dissolving that which could no longer bind, and to leave the separated parts to be reunited by the law of political gravitation...” (John Quincy Adams,>The Jubilee of the Constitution, 1939, pp. 66-69)...
In my opinion, it's time to separate into the law abiding states and the unlawful states.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 13, 2020, 10:21:54 AM
A long read here : https://americanmind.org/features/a-house-dividing/the-separation/
I believe he has it about right. Cutting to the chase:
Quote
For “Red” America: No one “wins” this civil war. But if anyone loses, it’s you. Your base is older, less educated, poorer, and barely growing. You accuse the Left of living in a dream world, but you are waiting for Ronald Reagan to come back. The voters who will determine America’s future have never heard of Reagan and do not care to learn...
...For “Blue” America: You have the momentum; you are winning the strategic battle. You have marched through the institutions and are closing on Ideological Hegemony. Your enemies are in general retreat. But advances have roused your opponent, and the easy victories are in the past. They now feel Silicon Valley constricting their political oxygen. For some time their leaders seemed uninspired, complacent, sheepishly mumbling lines about tax cuts. But Donald Trump is evidence this has changed. They will fight like people who understand they have everything to lose...
...The Separation is not a departure as much as return to the Constitution of the founders. The Articles of Confederation foundered on the three key functions required of the federal power: an effective army, a unified foreign policy, and a treasury that can incur liabilities for national functions. The federal government would retain its authority and taxing power for these functions.
Activities outside these spheres and the refereeing of interstate issues would be seated with the states. Broader latitude is provided to the states to effect and fund policies for their citizens. Blue states would no longer “subsidize” Red states. Greater funding for everything from climate change to social programs will be possible. The dust would be blown off the 9th and 10th Amendments.
The return of self-government to a more local sphere has two benefits: laws that better fit the people they bind, and the invigoration of citizens provided greater powers of self-determination. Nothing creates frustration like the powerlessness of distance from the opaque bureaucracies and legal chambers that direct American’s lives.
I think this guy is pretty close to the mark.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 13, 2020, 11:08:30 AM
Never happen but interesting
Instead this place might be quite the sheet show making portland and other liberal sewer holes the norm
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2020, 02:29:50 PM
Instead this place might be quite the sheet show making portland and other liberal sewer holes the norm
Eagler
Those "liberal sewer holes" you reference, hold up the country. That does not make them any more, or less, important than flyover country, because we are all Americans. There is only one side that doesn't wish that to be the case.
This conservative ideology of "I want it my way, every day" is getting tiring. You will form your own circular firing squad, after you have no liberals to blame for your misfortunes, when you realize that yes, California and New York really are a good proportion of the GDP of the United States, and suddenly you are living in a third world country again. Your hate of your own fellow citizens will only serve to be your own undoing. So, go back to 1952.... or 1592 if you wish. The rest of us will move on without lament. We're far too tired of supporting you.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 13, 2020, 02:45:44 PM
Those "liberal sewer holes" you reference, hold up the country. That does not make them any more, or less, important than flyover country, because we are all Americans. There is only one side that doesn't wish that to be the case.
This conservative ideology of "I want it my way, every day" is getting tiring. You will form your own circular firing squad, after you have no liberals to blame for your misfortunes, when you realize that yes, California and New York really are a good proportion of the GDP of the United States, and suddenly you are living in a third world country again. Your hate of your own fellow citizens will only serve to be your own undoing. So, go back to 1952.... or 1592 if you wish. The rest of us will move on without lament. We're far too tired of supporting you.
This is the difference between our followers and yours.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2020, 02:51:51 PM
This is the difference between our followers and yours.
Oh yes, your followers are so refined. The nooses outside the Whitehouse for 8 years while the first black president served his terms were all liberals. You really need to find a better script.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 13, 2020, 03:29:33 PM
Oh yes, your followers are so refined. The nooses outside the Whitehouse for 8 years while the first black president served his terms were all liberals. You really need to find a better script.
Nooses outside the Whitehouse? Give me a break. Why do you losers all play the racist card.
Sure is funny how many white people voted for Obama if they are all racist huh? Sure is strange how Biden got 20M more votes than Obama with less counties won and only 16% of counties nation wide.
I love how all of you dismiss everything your clown show is doing while projecting hatred on our side. Your side commits over a billion in damages, somehow we are the "bad guys" for wanting to stop it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2020, 04:12:56 PM
Nooses outside the Whitehouse? Give me a break. Why do you losers all play the racist card.
Sure is funny how many white people voted for Obama if they are all racist huh? Sure is strange how Biden got 20M more votes than Obama with less counties won and only 16% of counties nation wide.
I love how all of you dismiss everything your clown show is doing while projecting hatred on our side. Your side commits over a billion in damages, somehow we are the "bad guys" for wanting to stop it.
I'm not "dismissing" anything. I was talking from experiential knowledge of actually being at the White House and seeing actual people with actual nooses at the actual north lawn, three weeks after inauguration.
There are no sides. There are Americans, misguided and otherwise. You fall into the former category. There are plenty of examples of liberal morons as well as conservative idiots. De-humanizing either side ends badly.
I've seen enough of your machinations to know that America is only an idea for you. In practice, your hatred shines right through.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 13, 2020, 05:01:14 PM
I'm not "dismissing" anything. I was talking from experiential knowledge of actually being at the White House and seeing actual people with actual nooses at the actual north lawn, three weeks after inauguration.
There are no sides. There are Americans, misguided and otherwise. You fall into the former category. There are plenty of examples of liberal morons as well as conservative idiots. De-humanizing either side ends badly.
I've seen enough of your machinations to know that America is only an idea for you. In practice, your hatred shines right through.
You are misguided and poorly informed, buddy. I hope you and your pack of children loser antifa cry baby democrats enjoy losing another civil war. There is no pleading with people who think slavery is part of a normal course on this earth. When you cant even agree that thousands of cases of voter fraud with affidavits are fishy. Just like the democrats of the 1860s, still controlling the same cities they did then. Still using international bankers to rule the world. We couldn't convince them through ideas that slavery was bad. We can't convince your fascist regimes that reseting our country with the world is not an option, and we will not be a country of renters. When the force of proud strong Americans rains down upon them with the force of God. You will understand my tone.
Oh there are sides you arrogant fool. Which side will you choose Moray?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2020, 05:12:36 PM
You are misguided and poorly informed, buddy. I hope you and your pack of children loser antifa cry baby democrats enjoy losing another civil war. There is no pleading with people who think slavery is part of a normal course on this earth. When you cant even agree that thousands of cases of voter fraud with affidavits are fishy. Just like the democrats of the 1860s, still controlling the same cities they did then. Still using international bankers to rule the world. We couldn't convince them through ideas that slavery was bad. We can't convince your fascist regimes that reseting our country with the world is not an option, and we will not be a country of renters. When the force of proud strong Americans rains down upon them with the force of God. You will understand my tone.
Oh there are sides you arrogant fool. Which side will you choose Moray?
You really want to fight another civil war? You are a lunatic.
Always the personal insults when you expose their agenda.
This is why I see it coming. I'm tired of the arrogant BS. Americans are not going to put up with it much longer. We aren't stupid and the fact that you deny Klaus Schwab World Economic Forum agenda (no small thing) while using personal insults proves I am right.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 13, 2020, 06:54:24 PM
You really want to fight another civil war? You are a lunatic.
I doubt anyone wants to fight another civil war.
I do think about half the citizens of this country want to live under the Constitution and the rule of law. I count myself as one of those.
I review what the unlawful states are doing...allowing riots/looting/arson without arrest or repercussion of any kind, allowing illegitimate changes to laws & procedures their Constitutions prohibit, Sanctuary cities, and all the rest....and I find I really don't want to be in association with those states.
If my state elected to withdraw from a Union with those lawless states, I would want the lawless states to just let my state go. Upthread I quoted Jefferson and Adams being accepting of such a peaceful dissolution.
However, what I would expect is that the lawless states would use force of arms against my state. As was pointed out here on this BBS decades ago, my kind can leave them alone and live quite happily. They, however, cannot leave anyone alone until the others bend the knee.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 13, 2020, 06:57:44 PM
It’s really amusing & entertaining to see people calling an enormous section of the population a cult and not realize they’re involved in one themselves! :rofl
Imitation is flattery...
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2020, 07:24:12 PM
Always the personal insults when you expose their agenda.
This is why I see it coming. I'm tired of the arrogant BS. Americans are not going to put up with it much longer. We aren't stupid and the fact that you deny Klaus Schwab World Economic Forum agenda (no small thing) while using personal insults proves I am right.
Yeah, you're onto us. Our "agenda".
My representatives will be by to liquidate you so that my employers, the lizard people, may eat of their favorite slushy snack, Chilled Extracted Conservatears. All hail Zarlock!
On a real note, please seek clinical help. You exhibit very clear indications of trauma and associated paranoia, in pretty much everything I see you type on here. That isn't something to be joked about.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Oldman731 on December 13, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
If my state elected to withdraw from a Union with those lawless states, I would want the lawless states to just let my state go. Upthread I quoted Jefferson and Adams being accepting of such a peaceful dissolution.
...but...er...didn't the Civil War sort of resolve that issue...?
- oldman (I mean, Jefferson and Adams had been dead for some years by then)
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 13, 2020, 08:33:35 PM
My representatives will be by to liquidate you so that my employers, the lizard people, may eat of their favorite slushy snack, Chilled Extracted Conservatears. All hail Zarlock!
On a real note, please seek clinical help. You exhibit very clear indications of trauma and associated paranoia, in pretty much everything I see you type on here. That isn't something to be joked about.
Another example of mocking a person whose presenting the argument (fallacy), while attacking the character suggesting that it has trauma, inorder to negate the argument (fallacy). All while avoiding the actual argument.
Is this an "agenda", Yes or no? Could you please explain why you continue to ignore this while mocking me?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 13, 2020, 09:24:01 PM
It’s really amusing & entertaining to see people calling an enormous section of the population a cult and not realize they’re involved in one themselves! :rofl
Imitation is flattery...
cult - noun
-a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
-a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.
-a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 13, 2020, 09:35:40 PM
Another example of mocking a person whose presenting the argument (fallacy), while attacking the character suggesting that it has trauma, inorder to negate the argument (fallacy). All while avoiding the actual argument.
Is this an "agenda", Yes or no? Could you please explain why you continue to ignore this while mocking me?
Your deflections only shed more light on the truth of the matter. Please seek professional help, as soon as possible.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MiloMorai on December 13, 2020, 09:48:59 PM
The problem with all the paranoia and the conspiracy theory is, you can't talk people out of it. The psychological research is super clear on this, that if you try to fact-check people when they have incorrect facts, you only entrench their belief, that you can't talk people out of an emotional state.
...
Well, 77 percent of Republicans or Trump backers say the election was stolen by fraud, according to a Monmouth poll... A lot of those same people don't believe that masks can save your life.
So, there's a section of a country that's become detached from reality and, under Trump paranoia, has become a style, a resurgent style.
I wrote a column about this a week ago. And I tried to theorize that this derives out of a sense of menace and threat, that people feel existentially unsafe, and so they grasp for conspiracy theories, because it makes them feel powerful, that they see the truth. It makes them feel agency. They can expose the evil cabals.
And I think there's some truth to that, that people — a lot of people just feel very scared economically, socially, racially. And out of that fear comes paranoia.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 13, 2020, 10:25:27 PM
Oracle leaving California for Texas.
What a surprise :rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 13, 2020, 10:54:12 PM
...but...er...didn't the Civil War sort of resolve that issue...?
- oldman (I mean, Jefferson and Adams had been dead for some years by then)
They may have been dead but the Constitution they helped create was still in effect. The power to prevent secession is NOT granted to the federal government and the right to secede is NOT prohibited to the States under our Constitution. So See the 10th Amendment.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 13, 2020, 11:06:36 PM
They may have been dead but the Constitution they helped create was still in effect. The power to prevent secession is NOT granted to the federal government and the right to secede is NOT prohibited to the States under our Constitution. So See the 10th Amendment.
question was settled in texas v white. look that up.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 14, 2020, 12:05:17 AM
Those "liberal sewer holes" you reference, hold up the country. That does not make them any more, or less, important than flyover country, because we are all Americans. There is only one side that doesn't wish that to be the case.
This conservative ideology of "I want it my way, every day" is getting tiring. You will form your own circular firing squad, after you have no liberals to blame for your misfortunes, when you realize that yes, California and New York really are a good proportion of the GDP of the United States, and suddenly you are living in a third world country again. Your hate of your own fellow citizens will only serve to be your own undoing. So, go back to 1952.... or 1592 if you wish. The rest of us will move on without lament. We're far too tired of supporting you.
You have it backwards. Disagree with the socialist and they will loot and burn down your home and business. Then they do not want the police involved to protect their criminal activity.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 14, 2020, 12:45:24 AM
You have it backwards. Disagree with the socialist and they will loot and burn down your home and business. Then they do not want the police involved to protect their criminal activity.
in California 6m voted for Trump, 11m for biden. you think by now there would be millions of homes and businesses burnt down.
most of my friends are Trump supporters, we sit around and have a beer, sometimes we talk politics but we do it as grownups.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 14, 2020, 02:49:26 AM
You have it backwards. Disagree with the socialist and they will loot and burn down your home and business. Then they do not want the police involved to protect their criminal activity.
Oh, throw out the big, scary "Socialist" word. Do you blow the dog whistle when you type it or does the computer simply do it for you by now?
Is it an app? Does it come with the Newsmax subscription or is it extra?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 14, 2020, 06:16:37 AM
question was settled in texas v white. look that up. semp
Been there, done that a long time ago.
For you:
Dred Scott Decision (ruling black people aren't citizens); look that up. Plessy v Furguson (allowing separate-but-equal); look that up. Korematsu v United States (upholding Japanese internment camps); look that up.
The idea that every SC decision is correct and in accordance with the US Constitution has been disproven repeatedly. Texas v White is just one more example like the ones listed above.
Why was Texas v White an incorrect decision? Because of the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
Study the Constitution all you like, bring in any learned scholar you like but no one can find a Constitutional prohibition on secession, nor will anyone find a Constitutional sanction of any kind allowing federal coercion to force a state to remain in a perpetual union.
Virginia, New York and Rhode Island all conditionally ratified the Constitution. Virginia was the first state to state explicitly that she would only ratify the Constitution as long as she reserved the right to leave the Union so created by it. Both New York and Rhode Island attached essentially the same condition to their ratification. This brings Compact Law into the discussion. This condition now applied to every state in the Compact.
In fact, as has been shown above, neither Adams nor Jefferson held that the Union was a perpetual Hotel California, where once you check in you can never leave.
Further yet, look to the KEY Founding Document, the Declaration of Independence:
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
The USA came into being by seceding from Great Britain. The can be no doubt, especially after reading the Declaration, that our Founders believed the people had the right to secede.
Also from the Declaration:
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
I believe the time has arrived to separate.
The question is will the despots allow a peaceful separation. No one wants another Civil War I would hope.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 09:47:43 AM
Poke enough and the crazy left exposes itself eh Moray?
You add up the last four years and it is all very crazy and scary for the nation if not the globe
IMO it started with covering up hillarys top secret email server setup in an unsecure treasonous location.
Went off the rails when Trump won in 2016 with the durham report and wasted millions on the russian hoax
The medias crying when he won and the hate and bias ever since in their reporting
Ignoring hunter biden and the biden crime family corruption for the entire year until after the election..
And now the undeniable vast voter fraud....
The country is toast if this is not brought to light and fully investigated
https://youtu.be/pKfK8jkSwPA
Eagler
The last 4 years is why i am as outspoken as I am. I have been doing a lot of research into this stuff since then. I was blown away by how they were treating Trump. That's when I realized the NWO agenda being pushed by the UN was real. And I realized that the UN had turned on America. When all of the media organizations started pushing russiagate, that's when I knew we were at war. I could see the beginning of it when they started calling us white supremacist nazis inorder to make us the enemy, so when the fighting war comes, they will use UN Nato troops to invade America and "destroy the nazis again".
Its been the greatest trick of reverse psychology the world has ever seen. Conservatives are no where close to being the nazi ideology. Yet all of these leftest lunatics scream it us anyway. Nazis were anti religious and had a full government manifesto just like the current left do today. They are using fear and intimidation to get us to bend to their global order. Just like the Nazis wanted. They perfected MK ultra with Nazi doctors from project paperclip so that they could manipulate celebrities to push the agenda and try to psychology make us their subjects, rather than use force like the nazis did. Now that many Americans are woken up to this deception by Q and Trump team, forcing the left to come out and admit their plan, yoi can see how angry and vitriolic they are, even to cheat during the election every which way from Sunday to put their puppet in the white house so they can rein in agenda 21 using America as the power force.
Your deflections only shed more light on the truth of the matter. Please seek professional help, as soon as possible.
Comments like this prove they are hiding their agenda. Accusing me of what he is doing. This is a strong indication of a disinformation shill because they will not acknowledge a real agenda being spoken by their own leaders. This is why we cannot have rational conversations with the left anymore.
For the record. Id rather keep our 50 states rather than succeed. America will not be as powerful with a split nation, and China will take over the western states, then use them as a launching pad. We cannot allow that to happen. Our military must take down any actors working with China whether they are in government or not.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on December 14, 2020, 09:49:50 AM
I can't keep up at the moment so see rule changes. Note it applies to this forum only.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 14, 2020, 10:05:16 AM
Thank you HT!!!
I believe this subject should be dicussed as civil as possible and by as wide an audience as possible as it is HUGE and the next few weeks will be historic whichever way it and the nation goes.
I will refrain from posting in the other threads as they all now relate to this one at the basic level.
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Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 14, 2020, 10:34:12 AM
New rule changes? Are we out of bounds here?
Link?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2020, 10:37:29 AM
Someone is correct in that this thread had "exposed" the crazies, but it's not the left. The Democrats aren't the ones trying to steal the elections by crying fraud. It is strange that in not one court case alleging wide spread voter fraud, has Trump and his sycophants have been victorious. In all cases that were thrown out, judges cited lack of any sort of credible evidence.
As as registered member of the Republican Party these last 32 years, I am embarrassed and ashamed that the party of Lincoln and Reagan has been dragged through the mud by Trump and his blind followers that are willing to destroy our electoral process just because his ego can't take losing. But at least I can look myself in the mirror each morning, something the blind Trump followers can't.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 14, 2020, 10:59:42 AM
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 14, 2020, 11:08:29 AM
Not a trump supporter at all but he is better than corrupt joe
Left has no room to talk after trying to charge trump for the last 4 years with exactly what sleepy joe and his party has actually done
Not sure how one can look at the videos on youtube and state there was no fraud
Legal challenges were thrown out at at the local level by the same locals who broke local laws setting up the election changes that permitted the fraud.
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 14, 2020, 11:11:13 AM
Not sure how one can look at the videos on youtube and state there was no fraud
:rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 14, 2020, 11:42:26 AM
When you have democrats looking for out of state dead voters.... it does raise questions (Georgia). Pennsylvania, small state, one of the first to open voting, one of the last to get a count. There are always oddities. Should be no issue with making sure things are proper.
With the issues that electronic voting has had in the past, there should be no problem insuring that everything is proper when the numbers are close. Anyone who has a problem insuring things are done correctly are probably trying to hide something.
If you don't really care then you can ignore it just like you probably ignore many other things in life. For folks that want to make sure everything is on the up and up, it is important. That is no matter which way it goes.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 11:50:46 AM
Someone is correct in that this thread had "exposed" the crazies, but it's not the left. The Democrats aren't the ones trying to steal the elections by crying fraud. It is strange that in not one court case alleging wide spread voter fraud, has Trump and his sycophants have been victorious. In all cases that were thrown out, judges cited lack of any sort of credible evidence.
As as registered member of the Republican Party these last 32 years, I am embarrassed and ashamed that the party of Lincoln and Reagan has been dragged through the mud by Trump and his blind followers that are willing to destroy our electoral process just because his ego can't take losing. But at least I can look myself in the mirror each morning, something the blind Trump followers can't.
With all due respect Ack Ack, Trump beat 16 other candidates and had made the party way more popular than ever had been. We have far more followers today than ever before, especially of color and "diversity". The American spirit is stronger than it has been since 911. Its seems you establishment Republicans don't seem to understand what we are up against. I continue to post world economic forums goals by Klaus, but it just gets ignored and no one wants to talk about it for some strange reason.
If you actually believe there was no fraud committed, I think you are extremely mistaken. Especially after we have dealt with Russian collision accusations for 3 years with not even a single affidavit. We have thousands of affidavits and testimonials, along with video evidence presented to the legislature by a lawyer. We have statistical anomalies in all 4 states who cheated at 4am. We have MIT teams, Army Veteran teams of statisticians giving testimonials, and Metadata going back to Germany and Spain that is proven. We still have 3 or 4 cases open as we speak. There is no way in hell that Republicans won more seats in the house but Trump didn't win.
You think Trump is destroying the process when Democrats have done it for 3 year with their russia gate media circle jerk, and Mueller probe? Trump is doing the right thing by exposing Dominion corrupt voting machines and going after the real mail in ballots fraud election changes not approved by the legislation, just another indication that Covid was used to manipulate the election.
If you think the soviets just magically went away after Reagan left office, you are sorely mistaken and if you think China, soros, and foreign countries doesn't have a huge impact on local politicians, you should go back and watch the govenors ball with Mike Pompeo speaking.
I dont see how you Jeb Bush Republicans can sit here with your tail between your legs and give up your country to the likes of Venezuelan and Chinese dictators.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 14, 2020, 11:54:36 AM
Not a trump supporter at all but he is better than corrupt joe
Left has no room to talk after trying to charge trump for the last 4 years with exactly what sleepy joe and his party has actually done
Not sure how one can look at the videos on youtube and state there was no fraud
Legal challenges were thrown out at at the local level by the same locals who broke local laws setting up the election changes that permitted the fraud.
Eagler
wow didn't know state Supreme courts and us Supreme Court were local.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 14, 2020, 12:26:49 PM
The left investigated the 2016 election based off illegal documents which started the entire illegal investigation.. while blocking any legislation and telling us all how evil orange man is
I hope the repubs do the same with this election to the left...but I doubt it
Diff being the media will continue to bury any real story while singing praises to sleepy creepy corrupt joe for saving us all from the virus...
Sadly I think both sides are in on this to some degree as neither side wanted orange man in 16 and the swamp repubs would rather have senile joe for 8 years thinking it will be their turn in 2028..the level of fraud would indicate so.
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2020, 12:59:39 PM
With all due respect Ack Ack, Trump beat 16 other candidates and had made the party way more popular than ever had been. We have far more followers today than ever before, especially of color and "diversity". The American spirit is stronger than it has been since 911. Its seems you establishment Republicans don't seem to understand what we are up against. I continue to post world economic forums goals by Klaus, but it just gets ignored and no one wants to talk about it for some strange reason.
If you actually believe there was no fraud committed, I think you are extremely mistaken. Especially after we have dealt with Russian collision accusations for 3 years with not even a single affidavit. We have thousands of affidavits and testimonials, along with video evidence presented to the legislature by a lawyer. We have statistical anomalies in all 4 states who cheated at 4am. We have MIT teams, Army Veteran teams of statisticians giving testimonials, and Metadata going back to Germany and Spain that is proven. We still have 3 or 4 cases open as we speak. There is no way in hell that Republicans won more seats in the house but Trump didn't win.
You think Trump is destroying the process when Democrats have done it for 3 year with their russia gate media circle jerk, and Mueller probe? Trump is doing the right thing by exposing Dominion corrupt voting machines and going after the real mail in ballots fraud election changes not approved by the legislation, just another indication that Covid was used to manipulate the election.
If you think the soviets just magically went away after Reagan left office, you are sorely mistaken and if you think China, soros, and foreign countries doesn't have a huge impact on local politicians, you should go back and watch the govenors ball with Mike Pompeo speaking.
I dont see how you Jeb Bush Republicans can sit here with your tail between your legs and give up your country to the likes of Venezuelan and Chinese dictators.
And yet, Republican governors in the "contested" states all agree Trump hasn't proven any fraud. Republican federal judges that have heard Trump's cases have tossed them out for lacking any credible evidence.
Powell's legal brief she submitted was amateur at best. The brief claimed fraud in a Michigan County that does not exist anywhere in the state or country. Lin Wood purposely misused data from Minnesota to prove fraud in Michigan, by claiming the numbers came from Michigan. Then there is the whole "Spider/Spyder" whistle blower how claimed he served in a military intelligence battalion that turned out to be a lie when it was exposed the battalion was a training one and "Spider/Spyder" never served in a military intelligence unit after training and was just a regular IT guy.
But then, you believe QAnon, so I can see why you are so gullible.
Anyway, I've said my peace.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 14, 2020, 01:18:16 PM
The left investigated the 2016 election based off illegal documents which started the entire illegal investigation.. while blocking any legislation and telling us all how evil orange man is
"In reality, the connections between Trump campaign associates and individuals tied to the Russian government during the 2016 election have been well documented in reports from special counsel Robert S. Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee. Both found evidence that justified the investigation into those ties, although neither report found evidence of a criminal conspiracy."
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 14, 2020, 01:27:51 PM
Ole bob was in on it
Mueller should be arrested too
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 14, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
Powell's legal brief she submitted was amateur at best. The brief claimed fraud in a Michigan County that does not exist anywhere in the state or country.
I’m not disputing what you stated there because I don’t know. But what county are you referring to? Like to look into it for myself...
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 01:48:22 PM
And yet, Republican governors in the "contested" states all agree Trump hasn't proven any fraud. Republican federal judges that have heard Trump's cases have tossed them out for lacking any credible evidence.
Powell's legal brief she submitted was amateur at best. The brief claimed fraud in a Michigan County that does not exist anywhere in the state or country. Lin Wood purposely misused data from Minnesota to prove fraud in Michigan, by claiming the numbers came from Michigan. Then there is the whole "Spider/Spyder" whistle blower how claimed he served in a military intelligence battalion that turned out to be a lie when it was exposed the battalion was a training one and "Spider/Spyder" never served in a military intelligence unit after training and was just a regular IT guy.
But then, you believe QAnon, so I can see why you are so gullible.
Anyway, I've said my peace.
You think the post was written by some quack or 12 year old in his basement?
4620 Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 07/31/2020 01:03:40 ID: 076410 Archive Bread/Post Links: 10134589 / 10134839 Direct Link: 10134839 [infiltration] Only those who could[can] be controlled [via blackmail or like-beliefs] were installed in critical leadership positions across all political and non-political Control and Command Positions [CCP]. CCP [necessary] to ensure protective blanket [insurance]. Traitors everywhere. [D] leadership in joint ops w/ China [CCP] in effort to regain power? It was never about the virus. Sequence of events. Flynn 1st strike designed to 1. cripple 2. prevent exposure of illegal acts [Hussein WH CoC] through NAT SEC [intel] discovery 3. Install ‘controlled’ replacement [rogue1_McMaster]. McMaster removal of ‘loyalist’ intel community_NAT SEC Install ‘controlled’ [rogue2_Coats_DNI] prevent DECLAS [House-Senate blockade]. Pre_Install [rogue3-6] > referral(s) to POTUS re: McMaster_Coats_Wray_Bolton_+++ Install ‘controlled’ [rogue7_Bolton] Bolton removal of ‘loyalists’ intel community_NAT SEC Intel community [NAT SEC_WH] essential to control [infiltration] to prevent DECLAS_public exposure of true events [illegal surv [R] candidates 1&2, House members 1-x , Senate members 1-x , Journalists 1-x , Amb 1-x] + CLAS 1-99 events. Mueller installed [Comey termination_loss of power][POTUS inside of a box][prevent counter-attack]. Impeachment installed [Mueller termination _loss of power][POTUS inside of box][prevent counter-attack]. C19 insurance plan _above fail C19 installed [Impeachment termination _loss of power][POTUS inside of box][prevent counter-attack]. C19 _stage 1: Inform POTUS [intel + CDC + WHO + S_advisor(s)] _nothing to fear _do not close travel _do nothing [the political ‘set up’] C19 _stage 2: Inform POTUS of Dooms Day ‘inaccurate’ scenarios [models] predicting death count 1mm+ [the political ‘force’] _lock down [wipe economic and unemployment gains] C19 _stage 3: Activate ‘controlled’ [D] GOVS to ‘spike’ death count + project statewide fear by presenting ‘alarming’ on-ground conditions [hospital [care-supplies] projections]. C19 _stage 4: Push testing, testing, testing to spike ‘infected’ rate incline due to daily testing inc [the political ‘set up’] _controlled MSDNC failure to report death count [rates] proportional to ‘infected’ rate _deliberate miscounting of infected numbers [%] _change non_positive to positive _label death of non_C19 as C19 _etc. C19 _stage 5: Eliminate / censor any opposing views [anti-narrative] [Ready when needed] Activate 4-year BLM narrative 4x power [use as division + [2020] C19 infect rates to justify close-limit until Nov 3]. C19 calculated [D] political gain: 1. Eliminate record economic gains 2. Eliminate record unemployment gains 3. Shelter Biden from public appearances _limit public exposure of mental condition 4. Shelter Biden from Ukraine exposure _narrative change _media focus C19 5. Shelter Biden from P_debates [requested demands due to C19] 6. Delay [D] convention _strategic take-over of nominee post conf 7. Eliminate_delay POTUS rallies _term energy 8. Eliminate ability for people to gather _ divide 9. Eliminate ability to find peace – strength in time of need [strict Church closures] 10. Promote mail-in-voting as only ‘safe’ method _bypass NSA election security [installed midterms +1]. 11. Push state-bailout stimulus [CA][NY] + wish list items 12. Increase national debt [place China into controlling debt position _regain leverage] 13. Test conditional limits of public acceptance [obey] 14. Test conditional limits of public non_acceptance 15. Test conditional limits of State authority [Gov-mayor] 16. Test conditional limits of Media [social] censorship Who benefits the most? [D]? China [CCP]? Russia is the enemy. China is our friend. [MSDNC [social media] programming] All assets deployed. Everything seen yesterday, today, and tomorrow = calculated political moves/events designed and launched by [D] party in coordination with other domestic and foreign entities in an attempt to regain power over you. Prevent accountability. SHADOW PRESIDENCY [HUSSEIN] SHADOW GOVERNMENT INFORMATION WARFARE INSURGENCY Your voice and your vote matters. Patriots stand united. Welcome to the Revolution. Q
When 17 intelligence agencies can tell me who Q is after 4953 post, then we will all know. I am still waiting.
Sure seems strange to me that they are not telling the American public. I think I know why ;)
Kemp and GA SOC are compromised making back door deals with Stacey Abrams along with taking kickbacks from China in terms of "covid supplies"
Sydney Powell has a case, and it shouldn't just be thrown out. She was a US federal prosecutor and pretty much just saved Flynn, a US General being targeted by other federal prosecutors for doing his job. That is extremely corrupt to go after a general like this.
Lin Wood just sued CNN for Libel and won 200M for Nick Sandman. Why isn't Kemp and SOC going after Lin Wood for his comments about them taking kickbacks from China? If it was Libel, they would be suing him.
I do agree that certain silly mistakes were made in their attempt to rush their lawsuits.
Those lawsuits have nothing to do with Trumps Lawsuits, which are still waiting to he heard.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 14, 2020, 01:50:44 PM
I’m not disputing what you stated there because I don’t know. But what county are you referring to? Like to look into it for myself...
Edison County.
Quote
"In another case for Edison County, MI," the witness's statement reads, "Vice President Biden received more than 100% of the votes at 5:59 EST on November 4, 2020 and again he received 99.61% of the votes at 2:23 PM EST on November 5, 2020. These distributions are cause for concern and indicate fraud."
Dude seriously-- F off with your bullcrap garbage discrediting nonsense. I'm seriously F ing tired of it. Attack the argument he makes. Stop using soviet BS propaganda to discredit my source.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 03:20:42 PM
You think the post was written by some quack or 12 year old in his basement?
4620 Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 07/31/2020 01:03:40 ID: 076410 Archive Bread/Post Links: 10134589 / 10134839 Direct Link: 10134839 [infiltration] Only those who could[can] be controlled [via blackmail or like-beliefs] were installed in critical leadership positions across all political and non-political Control and Command Positions [CCP]. CCP [necessary] to ensure protective blanket [insurance]. Traitors everywhere. [D] leadership in joint ops w/ China [CCP] in effort to regain power? It was never about the virus. Sequence of events. Flynn 1st strike designed to 1. cripple 2. prevent exposure of illegal acts [Hussein WH CoC] through NAT SEC [intel] discovery 3. Install ‘controlled’ replacement [rogue1_McMaster]. McMaster removal of ‘loyalist’ intel community_NAT SEC Install ‘controlled’ [rogue2_Coats_DNI] prevent DECLAS [House-Senate blockade]. Pre_Install [rogue3-6] > referral(s) to POTUS re: McMaster_Coats_Wray_Bolton_+++ Install ‘controlled’ [rogue7_Bolton] Bolton removal of ‘loyalists’ intel community_NAT SEC Intel community [NAT SEC_WH] essential to control [infiltration] to prevent DECLAS_public exposure of true events [illegal surv [R] candidates 1&2, House members 1-x , Senate members 1-x , Journalists 1-x , Amb 1-x] + CLAS 1-99 events. Mueller installed [Comey termination_loss of power][POTUS inside of a box][prevent counter-attack]. Impeachment installed [Mueller termination _loss of power][POTUS inside of box][prevent counter-attack]. C19 insurance plan _above fail C19 installed [Impeachment termination _loss of power][POTUS inside of box][prevent counter-attack]. C19 _stage 1: Inform POTUS [intel + CDC + WHO + S_advisor(s)] _nothing to fear _do not close travel _do nothing [the political ‘set up’] C19 _stage 2: Inform POTUS of Dooms Day ‘inaccurate’ scenarios [models] predicting death count 1mm+ [the political ‘force’] _lock down [wipe economic and unemployment gains] C19 _stage 3: Activate ‘controlled’ [D] GOVS to ‘spike’ death count + project statewide fear by presenting ‘alarming’ on-ground conditions [hospital [care-supplies] projections]. C19 _stage 4: Push testing, testing, testing to spike ‘infected’ rate incline due to daily testing inc [the political ‘set up’] _controlled MSDNC failure to report death count [rates] proportional to ‘infected’ rate _deliberate miscounting of infected numbers [%] _change non_positive to positive _label death of non_C19 as C19 _etc. C19 _stage 5: Eliminate / censor any opposing views [anti-narrative] [Ready when needed] Activate 4-year BLM narrative 4x power [use as division + [2020] C19 infect rates to justify close-limit until Nov 3]. C19 calculated [D] political gain: 1. Eliminate record economic gains 2. Eliminate record unemployment gains 3. Shelter Biden from public appearances _limit public exposure of mental condition 4. Shelter Biden from Ukraine exposure _narrative change _media focus C19 5. Shelter Biden from P_debates [requested demands due to C19] 6. Delay [D] convention _strategic take-over of nominee post conf 7. Eliminate_delay POTUS rallies _term energy 8. Eliminate ability for people to gather _ divide 9. Eliminate ability to find peace – strength in time of need [strict Church closures] 10. Promote mail-in-voting as only ‘safe’ method _bypass NSA election security [installed midterms +1]. 11. Push state-bailout stimulus [CA][NY] + wish list items 12. Increase national debt [place China into controlling debt position _regain leverage] 13. Test conditional limits of public acceptance [obey] 14. Test conditional limits of public non_acceptance 15. Test conditional limits of State authority [Gov-mayor] 16. Test conditional limits of Media [social] censorship Who benefits the most? [D]? China [CCP]? Russia is the enemy. China is our friend. [MSDNC [social media] programming] All assets deployed. Everything seen yesterday, today, and tomorrow = calculated political moves/events designed and launched by [D] party in coordination with other domestic and foreign entities in an attempt to regain power over you. Prevent accountability. SHADOW PRESIDENCY [HUSSEIN] SHADOW GOVERNMENT INFORMATION WARFARE INSURGENCY Your voice and your vote matters. Patriots stand united. Welcome to the Revolution. Q
When 17 intelligence agencies can tell me who Q is after 4953 post, then we will all know. I am still waiting.
Sure seems strange to me that they are not telling the American public. I think I know why ;)
Kemp and GA SOC are compromised making back door deals with Stacey Abrams along with taking kickbacks from China in terms of "covid supplies"
Sydney Powell has a case, and it shouldn't just be thrown out. She was a US federal prosecutor and pretty much just saved Flynn, a US General being targeted by other federal prosecutors for doing his job. That is extremely corrupt to go after a general like this.
Lin Wood just sued CNN for Libel and won 200M for Nick Sandman. Why isn't Kemp and SOC going after Lin Wood for his comments about them taking kickbacks from China? If it was Libel, they would be suing him.
I do agree that certain silly mistakes were made in their attempt to rush their lawsuits.
Those lawsuits have nothing to do with Trumps Lawsuits, which are still waiting to he heard.
Repost so I doesn't get lost at the bottom of the thread.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 14, 2020, 03:25:07 PM
Dude seriously-- F off with your bullcrap garbage discrediting nonsense. I'm seriously F ing tired of it. Attack the argument he makes. Stop using soviet BS propaganda to discredit my source.
You seem to be so fond of propaganda though.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ramesis on December 14, 2020, 03:27:32 PM
So, there's a section of a country that's become detached from reality and, under Trump paranoia, has become a style, a resurgent style.
I wrote a column about this a week ago. And I tried to theorize that this derives out of a sense of menace and threat, that people feel existentially unsafe, and so they grasp for conspiracy theories, because it makes them feel powerful, that they see the truth. It makes them feel agency. They can expose the evil cabals.
And I think there's some truth to that, that people — a lot of people just feel very scared economically, socially, racially. And out of that fear comes paranoia.
And thus the recipe for revolution... I think it was Thomas Jefferson whom wrote (I'm paraphrasing) a revolution every so often is a good thing for the country :salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 03:28:20 PM
I could post 5 stories discrediting CNN and they were just sued for 250M and lost, among other lawsuits. Any one can write a story and make someone look bad. Its F ing pathetic.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 14, 2020, 03:30:47 PM
I could post 5 stories discrediting CNN and they were just sued for 250M and lost, among other lawsuits. Any one can write a story and make someone look bad. Its F ing pathetic.
I was discrediting you. That other nut job clearly discredited himself.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 14, 2020, 03:33:15 PM
I could post 5 stories discrediting CNN and they were just sued for 250M and lost, among other lawsuits. Any one can write a story and make someone look bad. Its F ing pathetic.
he didn't win, both settled.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 03:35:56 PM
I was discrediting you. That other nut job clearly discredited himself.
You didn't discredit chit. He's a front line independent journalist talking about far deeper stories than your garbage cochroach media. He has made mistakes and admits them. Thats part of being a journalist.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2020, 03:36:48 PM
Dude seriously-- F off with your bullcrap garbage discrediting nonsense. I'm seriously F ing tired of it. Attack the argument he makes. Stop using soviet BS propaganda to discredit my source.
How can you not dismiss Webb's unfounded and unverified claims? He has a very long and well documented problem with the truth.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 03:43:30 PM
How can you not dismiss Webb's unfounded and unverified claims? He has a very long and well documented problem with the truth.
What media news agency doesn't? George Webb was a Bernie supporter who got fed up when they stole the election from Bernie, then stole his donations. Webb has been more right than any other journalist I follow interms of being ahead of the game. He makes mistakes, then quickly follows up. If you aren't following him on the regular, you are kidding yourself and simply being arrogant and willfully ignorant.
We are talking about a guy who left his house in Oregon to travel around the US, living out of hotel rooms, who probably has some intelligence helping him out. Not one source gives you names of people on the inside like George does.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 14, 2020, 03:51:43 PM
I could post 5 stories discrediting CNN and they were just sued for 250M and lost, among other lawsuits. Any one can write a story and make someone look bad. Its F ing pathetic.
Anyone that would quote CNN is questionable to start with. Most so called "news" sites base nothing on facts and everything on agenda in todays world.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 04:15:45 PM
Anyone that would quote CNN is questionable to start with. Most so called "news" sites base nothing on facts and everything on agenda in todays world.
100% true. If yall just watch this one video of Webb I just posted, he goes deep into it. This is probably one of the better GW vids because he shows he's not loyal to anyone, shows that he's not doing it to get rich. Shows that he has a lot of experience in IT, criticizes Powell for not getting all of the info, talks about who Spyder is. Isn't afraid to show his face or give away his identity. Talks about citizen journalist working together. Its really great representation of who George Webb is.
Here's where Webb posts his sources and other info.
https://mobile.twitter.com/GeorgeW63613375
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 14, 2020, 05:07:27 PM
well it's official, well for some of you there's a recount in january.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheRobbler on December 14, 2020, 05:42:50 PM
Q anon is a cult. Lost a good friend to it. be careful.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 05:54:11 PM
Q anon is a cult. Lost a good friend to it. be careful.
Whose the leader? Why won't intelligence agencies tell me who it is? Why would a cult leader tell you to think for yourself? How is sharing pro American information considered a cult?
It's literally just an anonymous information source designed for people to question and research. Gahlee you people are scared crapless that the establishment is being exposed for selling out America.
Sure is funny how people who believe in a strong economically prosperous free America are the ones in the cult, but not the global warming, abortion loving, sellout to the world with all of our global institutions and roundtable aren't the ones in a cult.... Projection at its finest.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2020, 06:01:11 PM
What media news agency doesn't? George Webb was a Bernie supporter who got fed up when they stole the election from Bernie, then stole his donations. Webb has been more right than any other journalist I follow interms of being ahead of the game. He makes mistakes, then quickly follows up. If you aren't following him on the regular, you are kidding yourself and simply being arrogant and willfully ignorant.
We are talking about a guy who left his house in Oregon to travel around the US, living out of hotel rooms, who probably has some intelligence helping him out. Not one source gives you names of people on the inside like George does.
And yet he still spews BS, like his "dirty bomb" scare or his claiming and further pushing the conspiracy theory that army reservist Maatje Bensassi was Patient Zero in the US, almost destroying and endangering her and her family's lives.
I am willing to bet that there is absolutely no evidence of any of his conspiracy theories, at least no evidence that anyone with even the slightest intelligence would find credible. But people like you enable guys like George Webb to spew their poison.
I wonder how much Webb relies on "donations" to survive? But like a good little lemming, your kind will gladly give him money. Yep, PT Barnum was right, a sucker is born every minute. If you want evidence, just look at your support of Webb.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 14, 2020, 06:32:10 PM
And yet he still spews BS, like his "dirty bomb" scare or his claiming and further pushing the conspiracy theory that army reservist Maatje Bensassi was Patient Zero in the US, almost destroying and endangering her and her family's lives.
I am willing to bet that there is absolutely no evidence of any of his conspiracy theories, at least no evidence that anyone with even the slightest intelligence would find credible. But people like you enable guys like George Webb to spew their poison.
I wonder how much Webb relies on "donations" to survive? But like a good little lemming, your kind will gladly give him money. Yep, PT Barnum was right, a sucker is born every minute. If you want evidence, just look at your support of Webb.
Lmfao. Yeah, you.
The lady he exposed cried like a baby when CNN tried make Webb look like the bad guy. Funny she didn't sue though. 🤣. Looks like a setup to me the way she acted. Sure is pathetic watching a military clown cry on TV when she posted on twitter she was sick after coming home from Wuhan during the military games. Wahh he said my name, im so scared.. wahhh.. im in the military but im so scared. Give me a break.
Its funny to watch your claims about the dirty bomb while never actually getting Georges side of the story. Thats evidence that you only care about one side of the story inorder to make a free Lance journalist look bad so you can prop up your global billion dollar news networks. You never consider the attacks he has received on him and his family. You go ahead and take a lying wrag POS coward billion dollar sellout companies word for it. That makes you so smart and intellectual.
He was right about kolimoisky He was right about the Awan spy ring He was right about the blackberry connections. He was right about pientka fbi agent. He was right about Strzok He was right about Bill Barr He was right about weapons for drugs He was right about Club K He was right about Uranium 1. He is the only one calling out russians and Ukrainian connections by name. He is the only using Metadata to connect the dots. No other journalist has the balls that George Webb does.
Here is a splice of the story about your "dirty bomb" and what happened.
I take that back. James O'Keefe has some pretty big balls too.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Bixby on December 14, 2020, 07:10:31 PM
I was in Texas two times in my life. First time...1949... in utero...mommy's belly. She and her brother drove from Ohio and kidnapped my uncles son and brought him back to Ohio. I really don't remember that trip. My mothers brother taught me to fly and let me pilot his pride and joy a Citabria in 169. Boy was I scared at 18 but all went well after my cousin chased the cows from the pasture. He was an instructer pilot and taught many young aviators who went on to defend our way of life in the 40's.
Went back to Texas when my son graduated from Lackland AFB.Around 2000. Spent two weeks there and got to know many people. They were honest, hardworking and people I still know and respect. Real Americans. I am now thinking about actually moving there.
Texas...may become my home soon.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Bixby on December 14, 2020, 07:12:17 PM
I meant to type 1969. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: potsNpans on December 14, 2020, 07:53:42 PM
Only 1st. hand knowledge of Tx. I have was from a flight from Fla. to Puyallup Wa. Had a 2 hour layover in Dallas airport, and the group of us were feed massive amounts of booze and giant prawns by a dam fine barkeep. The women in cowgirl hats skirts and boots almost caused the lot of us to ditch the connecting flight. We sadly said good bye to the lonesome star state, and walked on the flight with bottles of vodka, soda and juice. The entire Fla. to Wa. flight we walked up and down the aisle passing the drinks around with the stewardesses help. :airplane:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 14, 2020, 08:33:23 PM
First, Factcheck.org is just another heifer in the leftist MSM herd. Doubt it? Check their <cough> coverage</cough> of Hunter Biden. There just as worthless as Snopes.
Second, just one example here although there are others in that article.
The Spectator article claimed
Quote
For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch.
Factcheck discounts this by saying
Quote
Biden maintained a lead with 50.05% of the vote while Trump held 49.95% over the course of about an hour of ballot counting in Georgia.
Not the same thing. Spectator is saying what are the odds that 53 different batches of votes had the exact same 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin.
Factcheck is saying the average stayed the same over an hour of ballot counting.
Well...duh...yeah...if 53 batches had the exact same margin the average would stay the same.
But it is incredible that 53 batches were exactly the same. Unbelievable in fact.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2020, 10:10:52 PM
The lady he exposed cried like a baby when CNN tried make Webb look like the bad guy. Funny she didn't sue though. 🤣. Looks like a setup to me the way she acted. Sure is pathetic watching a military clown cry on TV when she posted on twitter she was sick after coming home from Wuhan during the military games. Wahh he said my name, im so scared.. wahhh.. im in the military but im so scared. Give me a break.
Its funny to watch your claims about the dirty bomb while never actually getting Georges side of the story. Thats evidence that you only care about one side of the story inorder to make a free Lance journalist look bad so you can prop up your global billion dollar news networks. You never consider the attacks he has received on him and his family. You go ahead and take a lying wrag POS coward billion dollar sellout companies word for it. That makes you so smart and intellectual.
He was right about kolimoisky He was right about the Awan spy ring He was right about the blackberry connections. He was right about pientka fbi agent. He was right about Strzok He was right about Bill Barr He was right about weapons for drugs He was right about Club K He was right about Uranium 1. He is the only one calling out russians and Ukrainian connections by name. He is the only using Metadata to connect the dots. No other journalist has the balls that George Webb does.
Here is a splice of the story about your "dirty bomb" and what happened.
I take that back. James O'Keefe has some pretty big balls too.
Keep proving PT Barnum correct. :aok
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 14, 2020, 10:16:12 PM
First, Factcheck.org is just another heifer in the leftist MSM herd. Doubt it? Check their <cough> coverage</cough> of Hunter Biden. There just as worthless as Snopes.
Second, just one example here although there are others in that article.
The Spectator article claimed Factcheck discounts this by saying Not the same thing. Spectator is saying what are the odds that 53 different batches of votes had the exact same 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin.
Factcheck is saying the average stayed the same over an hour of ballot counting.
Well...duh...yeah...if 53 batches had the exact same margin the average would stay the same.
But it is incredible that 53 batches were exactly the same. Unbelievable in fact.
how many votes in each batch? are we talking about a few, hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions?
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 14, 2020, 10:31:00 PM
It doesn’t say. Just happened after 89% of votes were counted.
Doesn’t matter though. 53 batches of any number all coming up the same is beyond incredible.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 14, 2020, 10:44:01 PM
It doesn’t say. Just happened after 89% of votes were counted.
Doesn’t matter though. 53 batches of any number all coming up the same is beyond incredible.
53 batches of 1 wont make a difference. 53 batches of 1,000,000 will.
kind of like the claim, I was winning at first then the mail-in votes started being counted changed the outcome. why? 1 side said vote by mail, other said show up in person. in person were being counted first then mail-in started being counted. guess which side had more mail-in votes?
numbers do matter.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 14, 2020, 10:54:00 PM
Whose the leader? Why won't intelligence agencies tell me who it is? Why would a cult leader tell you to think for yourself? How is sharing pro American information considered a cult?
It's literally just an anonymous information source designed for people to question and research. Gahlee you people are scared crapless that the establishment is being exposed for selling out America.
Sure is funny how people who believe in a strong economically prosperous free America are the ones in the cult, but not the global warming, abortion loving, sellout to the world with all of our global institutions and roundtable aren't the ones in a cult.... Projection at its finest.
:rofl
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Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 15, 2020, 12:24:57 AM
Little more practice and you will likely be able to repeat Trump crap verbatim.
Lol - I don't quote any politician
I cant stand any of them as they all are corrupt at some level
When they speak they lie
But sleepy creepy corrupt joe and the jamacian witch are about the worse two that can be put into the WH at this time as they will make it much worse than another 4 years of orange man bad with the dems and media telling us all how much like hitler he is...
Trump should fight this corrupt election but I think it runs too deep for him to beat it or for anything to change
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 15, 2020, 10:02:21 AM
53 batches of 1 wont make a difference. 53 batches of 1,000,000 will.
kind of like the claim, I was winning at first then the mail-in votes started being counted changed the outcome. why? 1 side said vote by mail, other said show up in person. in person were being counted first then mail-in started being counted. guess which side had more mail-in votes?
numbers do matter.
semp
Are you being deliberately obtuse?
The question is not whether it would change the outcome in this one narrow particular instance.
The question is whether or not this is indicative of fraud in the voting process/Dominion machines.
It's essentially beyond belief that 53 dumps would have the exact same percentage vote split.
I guess it's possible but it's also possible little green men will land on the White House lawn this afternoon and announce the New Galactic Government.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 10:32:51 AM
The question is not whether it would change the outcome in this one narrow particular instance.
The question is whether or not this is indicative of fraud in the voting process/Dominion machines.
It's essentially beyond belief that 53 dumps would have the exact same percentage vote split.
I guess it's possible but it's also possible little green men will land on the White House lawn this afternoon and announce the New Galactic Government.
No one is saying they were exactly the same percentage vote split. They are saying with 89% of the votes tallied( approx. 3,600,595) leaving approximately 445000 left to count that whatever the vote splits were they were not large enough to impact the results, not that they were exactly the same like you claim. A .05 percent change out of the total ballots requires over a 2000 ballot shift.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 15, 2020, 10:53:48 AM
Again, from The Spectator article:
Quote
For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch.
They are saying that in 53 different batches, the vote margin was exactly the same percentage split.
What are the odds of that?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 10:55:21 AM
They are saying that in 53 different batches, the vote margin was exactly the same percentage split.
What are the odds of that?
No you're saying that. The overall remained the same. You're not good at math are you?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 11:02:01 AM
So even though this isn't the exact case. Let's say we split the remaining 445000 votes into 53 equal chunks of roughly 8400 votes. The split would have to be biased by around 2000 one way or the other to impact the overall result. If all 53 batches were biased less than 2000 votes one way or the other, not needing to be exactly the same, the overall results would not change.
I over simplified it of course and my numbers aren't exact just a rough explanation.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 15, 2020, 11:07:48 AM
I cant stand any of them as they all are corrupt at some level
When they speak they lie
But sleepy creepy corrupt joe and the jamacian witch are about the worse two that can be put into the WH at this time as they will make it much worse than another 4 years of orange man bad with the dems and media telling us all how much like hitler he is...
Trump should fight this corrupt election but I think it runs too deep for him to beat it or for anything to change
Eagler
"Jamaican witch"? Isn't there a name for that? Nationalism.... no.... never mind, it'll come to me later.
Tell me though, how many generations have to precede a person before you are allowed to be a "real American". The Mayflower wasn't a big boat.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 15, 2020, 11:27:27 AM
They are saying that in 53 different batches, the vote margin was exactly the same percentage split.
What are the odds of that?
Trump and his cronies have had close to 60 cases in front of state and federal courts. Many Republican judges. Many of them Trump appointed judges.
How many of those cases have they tried to claim actual voter fraud? How many have they won?
It's one thing to talk a bunch of BS of right-wing news sites and OANN and NewsMax, it's another to lie in the face of a federal judge. Not even dripping-Rudy is that stupid.
The voters have spoken, the courts have spoken, the Supreme Court has spoken, the Electoral College has spoken. It's over.
No, Trump is not going to be able to pull off 11th hour shenanigans in the Congress when the electors are counted. The Senate Republicans have already signaled they are not interested in participating in that.
It's over. Trump is "Fired". Deal with it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 15, 2020, 01:24:48 PM
He was cheated, he did not lose
I am not sure it is over
The concern is how will some deal with it
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 15, 2020, 01:47:37 PM
If he was cheated, why couldn't his minions prove it (or event claim it) is 60 court appearances?
In front of Trump appointed judges?
I'll tell you why, because in a court room you have to actually provide evidence for your claim. No reasonable evidence was provided.
That is why those were all lost or dropped.
Here is how your logic works: OANN, Sean Hannity, NewsMax guaranteed us that Trump was going to win. By a lot! He didn't win. Therefore something must be fishy. Occam's Razor would suggest he lost because a lot of people really can't stand him.
If there was anything to your claims, they would have been proven in court. They didn't, because there is nothing there.
Deal with it. It's over.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 15, 2020, 01:59:40 PM
It probably is over but that does not mean criminal activity did not happen
I believe it did
I also think all of DC wanted him out so that is what happened ...regardless of what the majority of the ppl voted for
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 15, 2020, 02:04:03 PM
It's not over until Jan 21st, and you can bet your bellybutton we aren't going to allow them to get away with it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 15, 2020, 02:08:03 PM
We? Them?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 02:10:08 PM
It probably is over but that does not mean criminal activity did not happen
If there was any credible evidence of material voter fraud it would have been produced it court. It wasn't. Trump was given every possible chance to provide evidence in 60 court filings including a petition to the Supreme Court. Nada. Nothing. Zip. Zilch.
What fantasies you "believe" are of no interest to a federal judge.
McConnell and several other key Republican's have already signaled they are not playing along with the fantasy any longer. The electors will be counted and Biden will be President.
It's over. Deal with it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 15, 2020, 02:18:10 PM
If there was any credible evidence of material voter fraud it would have been produced it court. It wasn't. Trump was given every possible chance to provide evidence in 60 court filings including a petition to the Supreme Court. Nada. Nothing. Zip. Zilch.
What fantasies you "believe" are of no interest to a federal judge.
McConnell and several other key Republican's have already signaled they are not playing along with the fantasy any longer. The electors will be counted and Biden will be President.
It's over. Deal with it.
Are you calling thousands of affidavits with penalty of perjury frauds? Your courts didn't give the lawsuits 10 minutes. It stinks of fraud and payoffs. Something I would expect from traitors to America.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 02:19:22 PM
Jump back in with both feet Arlo. You know you want to. The stink bait of these threads is impossible for you to resist. We've been given a Xmas gift from Hitech, who knows how long it will last.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on December 15, 2020, 02:23:15 PM
Are you calling thousands of affidavits with penalty of perjury frauds? Your courts didn't give the lawsuits 10 minutes. It stinks of fraud and payoffs. Something I would expect from traitors to America.
Or perhaps the claims are so ridiculous that it wasn't worth more than 10 minutes of the court's time. It's a shame Orangeman is such a sore loser because he really could've just disappeared and not been at the forefront of all of this ridiculousness.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 15, 2020, 02:24:55 PM
Are you calling thousands of affidavits with penalty of perjury frauds? Your courts didn't give the lawsuits 10 minutes. It stinks of fraud and payoffs. Something I would expect from traitors to America.
State, Federal and Supreme Court justices don't seem to agree with you. How many cases did Trump win out of the 60? I think 1, and it was a minor technical issue. Nothing that would effect the election outcome.
And McConnell has pretty much broadcast there will be no shenanigans from his Senate. You will probably have a couple of MAGA Senators go through the motions, but McConnell has drawn the line after the Elector College vote.
So, again. It's over. Deal with it.
If you claim it's not over, explain exactly to use how Trump will overturn the election at this point? Marshal Law? Insurrection Act? How do you fantasize this playing out?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 15, 2020, 02:30:22 PM
The irony is in Pennsylvania, the two individuals being investigated for voting fraud are Republican Trumptards.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 15, 2020, 02:32:34 PM
Or perhaps the claims are so ridiculous that it wasn't worth more than 10 minutes of the court's time. It's a shame Orangeman is such a sore loser because he really could've just disappeared and not been at the forefront of all of this ridiculousness.
But then we would only get to defeat and humiliate him and his followers once.
This way we get to defeat and humiliate them multiple times. :aok
[Edit]
Actually, it's pretty clear at this point the real reason he is dragging it out is so that he can keep putting the grift on his gullible rubes for more donations to keep up the fight.
I can't wait until the rubes realize where that money really goes. Oh well. Milk'em Donny. They deserve it. :rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 15, 2020, 02:37:19 PM
Quote
"The Electoral College has spoken," McConnell said in a statement. "So today, I want to congratulate President-elect Joe Biden. The President-elect is no stranger to the Senate. He has devoted himself to public service for many years. I also congratulate the vice president-elect, our colleague from California, Senator Harris. Beyond our differences, all Americans can take pride that our nation has a female vice president-elect for the first time."
It's over.
Deal with it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on December 15, 2020, 02:38:36 PM
IMO SNL hasn't been funny since the 70's/ early 80's
Eagler
Well, admittedly, it's hard to stack up against the days of Belushi and Aykroyd and Steve Martin hosting....
But they have had occasional moments over the years...
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 15, 2020, 03:49:33 PM
Quote
On a private conference call moments ago now, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell urged Republican senators not to join House members on Jan. 6 to object to state electoral results, a source on the call tells CNN.
Other top Republicans — Senate Majority Whip John Thune and Senate Rules Chairman Roy Blunt — echoed that sentiment. Doing so, they said, would be fruitless and force them to cast a politically challenging vote against the President that day.
No senators have pushed back so far, according to this source.
What this is about: House members can challenge the results on Jan. 6, when Vice President Mike Pence is scheduled to preside over the official tallying of the electoral votes. But those members would need a Republican senator to sign on to the effort.
Even if the GOP effort makes it that far, the Democratic controlled House would vote down such a maneuver.
it's..........OVAH!
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on December 15, 2020, 04:37:15 PM
To be fair I can understand why recent SNL content isn't appealing to Trumplicans.
.the funniest thing they did in years was the Eminem Stan remix called Stu a couple of weekends ago.
Other than that, they are just comedy propaganda to reinforce the agenda.
Wake in the morning to get my anti trump propaganda Go out to lunch to get my anti trump propaganda Go home to see some news thats anti propaganda Go try to watch something and its anti trump propaganda
Every single day and night.
I think we are all tired of it.
That's why SNL has the lowest ratings in history among others like the NFL, Grammy awards and Oscar's. You can blame it on "people leaving cable" all you want. The truth is, your #s don't suggest any popularity over trump and conservative networks. Ratings have dropped considerably. People are tired of the SJW horsecrap taking over this country.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 05:25:27 PM
Nah,I left that to much more knowledgeable peeps! BTW Indie for night, sativa during the day.....
Have I never told you I was Native?
:salute
PS: I would never be so rude to say get off my lawn and go home....
I roughed him up good for you. :) Well technically I'm a hybrid guy but pretty much prefer the sativa side of things.
Native? As in not an alien?
You are not allowed to be rude, you're Canadien.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: morfiend on December 15, 2020, 05:33:21 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Ya native or aboriginal,you pick one.
Mostly hybrid these days,pretty hard to find a true strain. Since it's legal here,I happen to have a bunch of old school seed,from the 70's and 80's....just in case.
I have it on good authority that the polite Canadian is an urban myth,so I've been told.Doesnt matter though as I'm a North American and can live in either country.
:salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 15, 2020, 05:53:08 PM
Which, once again, is NOT the issue the Spectator article states. I'll try one last time.
The issue stated in the article was that in 53 completely different batches/packets/dumps/whatever, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch.
It's not about changing the outcome. It's about rigged voting machines.
Imagine if you will getting 53 distinctly separate packages of mail in ballots (mind you this is just an example to help you out). You open them all, one at a time. Each package has the same exact same number of votes for Biden and the exact same number of votes for Trump. Each individual package is a clone of every other package.
Yeah..what are the odds of that happening? But it happened.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 15, 2020, 06:31:02 PM
I think Biden will be inaugurated. I expect it to take 6-12 months for Kamala and the radical wing to push his wheelchair off the cliff so she can sit in the Oval Office. Possibly Bernie for VP after that.
I do not believe that we have even begun to see the division in the US populace though. I think our division into left/right - blue/red is going to increase exponentially, along with the potential for violence on both sides.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 15, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
SNL political satire has always been top notch. Pizzing off MAGAs actually proves it (they have no sense of humor and take themselves way too seriously.)
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 06:37:04 PM
Which, once again, is NOT the issue the Spectator article states. I'll try one last time.
The issue stated in the article was that in 53 completely different batches/packets/dumps/whatever, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch.
It's not about changing the outcome. It's about rigged voting machines.
Imagine if you will getting 53 distinctly separate packages of mail in ballots (mind you this is just an example to help you out). You open them all, one at a time. Each package has the same exact same number of votes for Biden and the exact same number of votes for Trump. Each individual package is a clone of every other package.
Yeah..what are the odds of that happening? But it happened.
Can you post the data, with the exact number of votes in each of the 53 packages. And please provide an original source of the data, thanks.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 15, 2020, 06:39:59 PM
Hehehe .... Bug ain't buying it and on top of that gave Toad homework. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 15, 2020, 06:44:46 PM
I think Biden will be inaugurated. I expect it to take 6-12 months for Kamala and the radical wing to push his wheelchair off the cliff so she can sit in the Oval Office. Possibly Bernie for VP after that.
I do not believe that we have even begun to see the division in the US populace though. I think our division into left/right - blue/red is going to increase exponentially, along with the potential for violence on both sides.
Well said! Couldn’t agree more.
Of course you know I’m being called crazy and conspiracy theorists for saying such...
What they don’t want to recognize is there really is a political swamp in DC and a Deep State that plays both sides. They take our money (taxes) and spend it on garbage placating programs, live lavishly off inside financial knowledge.
There was once a man who tried to thwart it and he was ridiculed, illegally spied on, had his family denigrated, and so many other dirty and evil things done to him every single day of a 4 year period - just so that the swamp creatures wouldn’t get exposed.
Funny how once upon a time, he was one of their own and they loved him, loved every facet of his being until he switched, not his beliefs, but his political party affiliation. :headscratch:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 15, 2020, 06:49:07 PM
Of course you know I’m being called crazy and conspiracy theorists for saying such...
What they don’t want to recognize is there really is a political swamp in DC and a Deep State that plays both sides. They take our money (taxes) and spend it on garbage placating programs, live lavishly off inside financial knowledge.
There was once a man who tried to thwart it and he was ridiculed, illegally spied on, had his family denigrated, and so many other dirty and evil things done to him every single day of a 4 year period - just so that the swamp creatures wouldn’t get exposed.
Funny how once upon a time, he was one of their own and they loved him, loved every facet of his being until he switched, not his beliefs, but his political party affiliation. :headscratch:
I do not believe that we have even begun to see the division in the US populace though. I think our division into left/right - blue/red is going to increase exponentially, along with the potential for violence on both sides.
I agree with this. Unless a leader unlike anyone I've seen in my lifetime rises to the occasion or we become a dictatorship or some great external threat rises up to draw our undivided attention.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 15, 2020, 07:20:02 PM
Trump has to keep grifting his rube supporters.
"Ghouliani" doesn't come cheap. 20k a day for his clown-show.
I agree with this. Unless a leader unlike anyone I've seen in my lifetime rises to the occasion or we become a dictatorship or some great external threat rises up to draw our undivided attention.
Well at least we agree on something.
The division the ruling class has created amongst its population is and will tear it apart unless something changes.
However, one man, one administration did not create this though.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 15, 2020, 08:17:57 PM
Can you post the data, with the exact number of votes in each of the 53 packages. And please provide an original source of the data, thanks.
No. You can ask Patrick Basham yourself.
Can you show any data or information that refutes Basham’s statement concerning the GA packets? Not the bull shirt that it wouldn’t change the outcome.
I’ve seen no source refute Basham’s statement. There’s homework for you
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 09:00:50 PM
Can you show any data or information that refutes Basham’s statement concerning the GA packets? Not the bull shirt that it wouldn’t change the outcome.
I’ve seen no source refute Basham’s statement. There’s homework for you
I will leave that to the courts. What was their outcome?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 15, 2020, 09:05:55 PM
The division the ruling class has created amongst its population is and will tear it apart unless something changes.
However, one man, one administration did not create this though.
Most definitely not, he very much inherited this division. My concern is with what I perceive as his attempts to increase this division, for what I can only assume as his gain. We don't need any help there.
I'm interested in what you think the cause of the division is? Where can't we agree? Leave the politicians, the fraud, the media.. out of it. Where can't we agree?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 15, 2020, 10:05:56 PM
Most definitely not, he very much inherited this division. My concern is with what I perceive as his attempts to increase this division, for what I can only assume as his gain. We don't need any help there.
I'm interested in what you think the cause of the division is? Where can't we agree? Leave the politicians, the fraud, the media.. out of it. Where can't we agree?
Something I’ll have to ponder for awhile. These threads/posts might just be more than HT wants to deal with anymore as noted here: https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,401880.0.html
I think we can all agree losing the game over this stuff would be much worse than not being able to abide by the old rules that are temporarily suspended
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MORAY37 on December 16, 2020, 03:29:50 AM
Most definitely not, he very much inherited this division. My concern is with what I perceive as his attempts to increase this division, for what I can only assume as his gain. We don't need any help there.
I'm interested in what you think the cause of the division is? Where can't we agree? Leave the politicians, the fraud, the media.. out of it. Where can't we agree?
I would venture that the national dysfunction isn't as pervasive as it is perceived. Local politics are still quite collegial, even if the debate does spiral at times. For the most part, that is. Of course their are outliers, but local government in general tends to hash out differences respectfully, still. I would say that the "crazy" has become more magnified, however, in this ever connected world we live in.
I submit the end of the effective federal government to be Newt Gingrich's "win at all costs" approach to governance. Prior to that time, a good deal in Congress was considered "good for the country" only when every senator and representative absolutely hated it..... since then it has become the era of "I'm not voting for it unless it has everything I want in it" from everyone, which isn't effective governance. Gingrich effectively showed one party how to stop conceding anything and still get elected... and that's where we stand
Not unsubstantial to this observation, Gingrich's time was barely preceded by the striking down of the Fairness Doctrine in network broadcasting.... which led to Fox News, CNN, MSNBC all swiftly ascendant. None of them have the need to follow any of the guidelines that used to be in strict adherence. I won't give Newsmax or OAN a glance here.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 06:10:59 AM
I will leave that to the courts. What was their outcome?
That they decided to not even hear cases. See the SC and Texas case.
As a result, according to a Rasmussen poll conducted November 17-18, nearly half of likely voters, 47 percent, believe the election was stolen from Trump. 30 percent of Democrats believe it is very likely (20 percent) or somewhat likely (10 percent) that it was.
There's the problem. The courts should have not dismissed cases. They should have allowed them. Let the nation see there was a proper investigation. Now you have about half the country with no faith in the US election process.
Laugh it off now. This is going to be a serious problem. What happens when people no longer believe there are fair elections?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 06:16:55 AM
Where can't we agree. Gee, gimme a week to think about it.
Wait! I can see a few areas.
2nd Amendment Rights
No borders/unfettered illegal immigration
Taxation ("fair share" that no one can define other than "more")
Military spending
Abortion right up to delivery
Business climate/over regulation
Rule of Law (burn Portland/no arrests or prosecutions - Kamala provides bail money)
...and....Election Integrity.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 16, 2020, 06:40:46 AM
If the left had not stolen the election they would have been behind a full and complete investigation and confirmation of its results.
They would not have kicked out republican over seers and then pulled out piles of ballots to count them for over 2 hours without proper legal over sight to name one cheating instance.
They would have locked then audited all the voting machines.
As they did nothing that would seem they were honest about this I think as many they cheated historically and will get away with it.
Sadly no one in DC wanted trump and his midnight tweets for another 4 years regardless of how high he could have pushed the market.
The repubs helped remove him as they want their DC corrupt game back with the media covering for the craziest of them.
They have hated him since he made jeb and co look foolish in 16.
Trump showed the medias bias clearer than any other politician as he was never one.
He showed the corruption many suspected went on daily in DC.
For that everyone should actually thank the guy
I can see the left happy about winning but the cost to the nation might be its undoing.
Or the very shallow minded, short American memory will forget all about it in 6 months wondering who is the lastest mask singer...
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: MiloMorai on December 16, 2020, 08:21:48 AM
Trump built on the recovery started by Obama created by a Repub administration. It would have continued without Trump.
Down ballot the Repubs did very well.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 09:17:42 AM
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 09:40:37 AM
Trump won on election night. End of story. What the dems did are what cartels do in Mexico to make sure their guy wins. They will pay dearly.
I've been hearing a lot of rumors that martial law is coming.
Could be true or not true. All know is that pretty much every Trump voter is pissed off. If martial law doesn't happen, and no one does anything before Biden gets swarn in, I could easily see militias marching the streets preparing for war.
We know we were cheated. We know the democrats are cheaters. We know the democrats are frauds. We know the democrats are working with China and other foreign countries. We know the democrats want small businesses to shut down.
I know many people aren't going to sit around and allow the UN to push them into a slavery system of "renters".
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2020, 09:45:38 AM
You went and stirred him up, Trip, and now he's mumbling incoherently. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 10:03:58 AM
Where can't we agree. Gee, gimme a week to think about it.
Wait! I can see a few areas. [...]
No problem. As soon as Trump, his kids, and the souless bootlickers who worship him as an orange pig god have been purged from the Republican party, you could probably get my vote again, eventually.
Heck, I have voted for every Republican from Reagan's second term until 2016.
But any party that embraces Trump, or his kids is dead to me. Not negotiable.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 10:31:57 AM
That they decided to not even hear cases. See the SC and Texas case.
As a result, according to a Rasmussen poll conducted November 17-18, nearly half of likely voters, 47 percent, believe the election was stolen from Trump. 30 percent of Democrats believe it is very likely (20 percent) or somewhat likely (10 percent) that it was.
There's the problem. The courts should have not dismissed cases. They should have allowed them. Let the nation see there was a proper investigation. Now you have about half the country with no faith in the US election process.
Laugh it off now. This is going to be a serious problem. What happens when people no longer believe there are fair elections?
I have no reason to trust the election results.
SolarWinds was raided a few days ago. Dominion tried to remove SolarWinds from their website, but its still in their code LOL.
We know we were cheated. We know the democrats are cheaters. We know the democrats are frauds. We know the democrats are working with China and other foreign countries. We know the democrats want small businesses to shut down.
We know you're batchit crazy.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 16, 2020, 10:39:14 AM
No, I am not wrong. SolarWinds was hacked, not raided by feds. Even that site you linked to hasn't been able to confirm your nutter claim.
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For the record — We have been looking for more information on this so-called raid and contacted friends in Austin but have not yet confirmed this incident.
You should ask your mental health doctor to up your meds, your current dosage isn't working.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 11:56:29 AM
No problem. As soon as Trump, his kids, and the souless bootlickers who worship him as an orange pig god have been purged from the Republican party, you could probably get my vote again, eventually.
Heck, I have voted for every Republican from Reagan's second term until 2016.
But any party that embraces Trump, or his kids is dead to me. Not negotiable.
I don't need your vote. I'm not running for anything. I'm disqualified because my parents were married.
I usually vote Libertarian. However, when I had to choose between a Felon that failed to safeguard classified material and Trump. Yeah, I voted Trump.
When I had to choose between a candidate with dimentia/alzheimers who is and always was merely a place holder for Kamala Harris, Biden and Trump. Yeah, I voted Trump.
I hope you Biden voters are going to be happy with Kamala in the Oval Office very shortly.
Any party or person that embraces Harris, or "The Squad" is dead to me. Not negotiable
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 11:57:33 AM
I don't need your vote. I'm not running for anything. I'm disqualified because my parents were married.
I usually vote Libertarian. However, when I had to choose between a Felon that failed to safeguard classified material and Trump. Yeah, I voted Trump.
When I had to choose between a candidate with dimentia/alzheimers who is and always was merely a place holder for Kamala Harris, Biden and Trump. Yeah, I voted Trump.
I hope you Biden voters are going to be happy with Kamala in the Oval Office very shortly.
Any party or person that embraces Harris, or "The Squad" is dead to me. Not negotiable
Voting for Trump the first time, I can see. The hatred for Clinton was profound and Trump was an outsider, like Jimmy Carter (that went well haha). The second time, I will never understand from anyone for any reason. But, that is me.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 12:03:43 PM
No, I am not wrong. SolarWinds was hacked, not raided by feds. Even that site you linked to hasn't been able to confirm your nutter claim.
You should ask your mental health doctor to up your meds, your current dosage isn't working.
You people are so pathetic.
Have fun selling out to the NWO globalist metropolis.
"build back better" "The future we want"
How about you go take some meds because selling out your country to a globalist fuedalist communist regime is showing just how mentally corrupted and blind you people have become.
Don't say I didn't warn you all.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 12:04:29 PM
Other than his stupid Tweets, what did Trump do that was so bad for this country? I'd like to see a list of the top 10 things.
Because he did a LOT of damn good things. I'm a vet. I can tell you that the VA has ABSOLUTELY improved immensely. That was all due to Trump.
I could go on.
But let's see your top 10 reasons not to vote for Trump.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 12:05:44 PM
Voting for Trump the first time, I can see. The hatred for Clinton was profound and Trump was an outsider, like Jimmy Carter (that went well haha). The second time, I will never understand from anyone for any reason. But, that is me.
So vote for the 50 year China sellout politician with a meth drug addict kid making millions in Ukraine, instead of a guy who does 5 rallies a day praising America. Got it.
Seriously. Wtf is wrong with you people?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 12:08:42 PM
Voting for Trump the first time, I can see. The hatred for Clinton was profound and Trump was an outsider, like Jimmy Carter (that went well haha). The second time, I will never understand from anyone for any reason. But, that is me.
Exactly.
I can forgive people who voted for Trump in 2016. I think that was a bad choice, but defendable. I voted Libertarian for the first time in 2016.
A lot of people just didn't even realize what scum Trump was. They only vaguely knew he was on TV. More people understood who Clinton was.
The people who voted for him in 2020 are either low IQ or have a closet love of Authoritarianism.
We don't need an American Putin.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 12:18:54 PM
Other than his stupid Tweets, what did Trump do that was so bad for this country? I'd like to see a list of the top 10 things.
Because he did a LOT of damn good things. I'm a vet. I can tell you that the VA has ABSOLUTELY improved immensely. That was all due to Trump.
I could go on.
But let's see your top 10 reasons not to vote for Trump.
Exactly. They can't even give 10 reasons. They are working for the corrupted sellout media to push an agenda to take over the United States with an actual fascist agenda.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 12:32:26 PM
Exactly. They can't even give 10 reasons. They are working for the corrupted sellout media to push an agenda to take over the United States with an actual fascist agenda.
I think you are missing a key point (there's a shocker).
Trump accomplished nothing that any more competent Republican President could have with a Republican House and Senate for two years. He probably accomplished less.
See, I'm old enough to remember when the Republican's said that "Character Matters" back in the Bill Clinton days, and I agreed. It didn't matter if things were run well or not, it doesn't matter if the economy was booming and the country was mostly at peace. If a person was of poor character, that alone made him unfit for office. I agreed back then.
My views haven't changed. The Republican party's has. Now "character" is no longer supposed to matter. Only results.
Most Presidents aren't perfect, but Trump represents such a cataclysmic new low in the "Character" department that a line has to be drawn.
It has. He was defeated and he and his kids and his businesses will now be prosecuted to the fullest possible extent of the law. He knows what's coming. That is why he is panicking so hard.
Guess what Donny? A Presidential pardon doesn't shield against state indictment. An army of NY prosecutors are lurking in the shadows, sitting on a stack of sealed indictments, licking their chops. :rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 12:42:20 PM
Other than his stupid Tweets, what did Trump do that was so bad for this country? I'd like to see a list of the top 10 things.
Because he did a LOT of damn good things. I'm a vet. I can tell you that the VA has ABSOLUTELY improved immensely. That was all due to Trump.
I could go on.
But let's see your top 10 reasons not to vote for Trump.
The "reasons" are all subjective. That means what some call a a good thing others call a bad thing. An example: appointing family members to top administrative roles. This is nepotism and some would argue that other people were more highly qualified. You might argue otherwise. Thus, it is pointless to list 10, 20, or 40 reasons. Muslim ban is another example. Some would say it was a good move, others would call it xenophobic. If the debate could occur in an academic manner, I'd be willing to have it. But from what I have seen from the participants, I regret ever posting.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 12:52:41 PM
I'm only seeking common ground from people that believe in (and studied) the Constitution, the Rule of Law and free and fair elections. Thought it through a long time ago.
Apparently not many of those on this board.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 16, 2020, 12:58:05 PM
I heard the ECA might be the only hope but I think the RINOs in congress are too chicken sheet to implement it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_Count_Act
Not sure how anyone thinks orange man is worse than a treasonous corrupt senile career politican like sleepy creepy joe
Do you guys not believe any of the corruption joe has been accused of doing?
Is the laptop still "russian collusion" as the mefia labelef it pre election?
Do you not see it will now be used by your sweet dems and media to push corrupt joe out and give it to the crazy beech no one wanted during the primaries?
Seems you are just as bad if not worse than the never die trumpers as you cannot see what is wrong here or just choose to ignore it to get him out
Like Toad stated I hope you are happy with the first corrupt half brown crazy liberal women as POTUS
I think the majority of the nation is in for quite the shock
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 01:05:55 PM
The "reasons" are all subjective. That means what some call a a good thing others call a bad thing.
So despite all the good things he accomplished, nepotism is a total disqualifier? Did any of his kids do anything as bad much as Hunter Biden?
Muslim ban?
Trump barred tourism and immigration from seven countries previously identified by the Obama-Biden administration as being particularly vulnerable to terrorism, partly because their internal record-keeping was substandard. These seven nations — Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen — happened to be Muslim-majority countries, but there was no blanket ban on Muslims from other Middle Eastern countries or large Muslim countries like Indonesia.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 01:09:27 PM
The "reasons" are all subjective. That means what some call a a good thing others call a bad thing. An example: appointing family members to top administrative roles. This is nepotism and some would argue that other people were more highly qualified. You might argue otherwise. Thus, it is pointless to list 10, 20, or 40 reasons. Muslim ban is another example. Some would say it was a good move, others would call it xenophobic. If the debate could occur in an academic manner, I'd be willing to have it. But from what I have seen from the participants, I regret ever posting.
Only certain countries were banned who were hot beds of IsIs terrorism. How many isis terrorist attacks did we have under Obama? You only say "Muslim ban" because that is what your media told you to believe. See how easily you fall for propaganda? How many ISIS terrorist attacks did we have under Trump?
Secondly. Hunter biden was making state deals for joe Biden and the communist party of China while taking millions in kick backs as a vice president of the United States.
You think Trump is the super bad guy because he allowed his daughter in the cabinet. She's a liberal btw....yet refuse to acknowledge his opponents who are literally making private business deals using the presidential office with his own son that involve energy.
You cant answer the questions. You just live in Main stream media lala land and I don't understand how you people fall for this crap while denying the plans for global domination by people like Klaus Schwab who is pushing the "build back better" agenda that Biden specifically used in his own speeches.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 16, 2020, 01:12:18 PM
So despite all the good things he accomplished, nepotism is a total disqualifier? Did any of his kids do anything as bad much as Hunter Biden?
Muslim ban?
Trump barred tourism and immigration from seven countries previously identified by the Obama-Biden administration as being particularly vulnerable to terrorism, partly because their internal record-keeping was substandard. These seven nations — Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen — happened to be Muslim-majority countries, but there was no blanket ban on Muslims from other Middle Eastern countries or large Muslim countries like Indonesia.
don't forget when he was running for president, he wanted a total Muslim ban.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: perdue3 on December 16, 2020, 01:15:17 PM
I'm sorry to have offended. You guys obviously know more than I. I shall take my leave, now.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 01:18:07 PM
Eagler, I'm guessing they were so blinded by TDS fed by a lying MSM that they don't yet realize they voted for Kamala.
You know Kamala right? The one that dropped out of the Democratic primary December 3, 2019 because she had basically no support in the Democratic party? So they picked her to lead the country later.
The Kamala who tweeted support for the Minnesota Freedom Fund. What? You didn't know about the MFF?
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Among those bailed out by the Minnesota Freedom Fund (MFF) is a suspect who shot at police, a woman accused of killing a friend, and a twice convicted sex offender, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.
According to attempted murder charges, Jaleel Stallings shot at members of a SWAT Team during the riots in May. Police recovered a modified pistol that looks like an AK-47. MFF paid $75,000 in cash to get Stallings out of jail.
Darnika Floyd is charged with second degree murder, for stabbing a friend to death. MFF paid $100,000 cash for her release.
Christopher Boswell, a twice convicted rapist, is currently charged with kidnapping, assault, and sexual assault in two separate cases. MFF paid $350,00 in cash for his release.
“The last time we were down there, the clerk said, ‘we hate it when you bail out these sex offenders, that is what they said’,” [MFF interim executive directer Greg] Lewin said. https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/08/12/kamala-harris-promoted-group-that-paid-bail-for-murderers-and-sex-offenders-n780564
Yeah...that's who they voted for. That's their President.
Why would any sane person seek common ground with people that voted for her?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TheBug on December 16, 2020, 01:18:28 PM
Hehe, have you ever debated with an ardent trump supporter in an academic manner?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 01:27:28 PM
I'm sorry to have offended. You guys obviously know more than I. I shall take my leave, now.
Not offended, just trying to help you understand what really happened.
This is why the media makes me so furious. They are deliberate lying to make Trump and supporters look bad because we are exposing their globalist fascist agenda.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 16, 2020, 01:30:25 PM
I don't need your vote. I'm not running for anything. I'm disqualified because my parents were married.
I usually vote Libertarian. However, when I had to choose between a Felon that failed to safeguard classified material and Trump. Yeah, I voted Trump.
When I had to choose between a candidate with dimentia/alzheimers who is and always was merely a place holder for Kamala Harris, Biden and Trump. Yeah, I voted Trump.
I hope you Biden voters are going to be happy with Kamala in the Oval Office very shortly.
Any party or person that embraces Harris, or "The Squad" is dead to me. Not negotiable
Prior to ignoring the person you are responding to, I had only ever ignored two others. They were eventually banned and left.
This thread is showing why so many have spent the last 4 years trying to undermine the US. Not realizing that they live here too and they are just harming their own family. California and New York are paying the price and it will be getting much worse for both of those places. They will vote the way they vote and act like that has nothing to do with what is happening to them right now.
Like I posted before...... this games problems are not the game, it is the people.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 16, 2020, 01:30:37 PM
Hehe, have you ever debated with an ardent trump supporter in an academic manner?
You are just extreme as the most crazy trump supporter if you think you can justy voting dem this election to the majority of hard working honest Americans
Yes the majority did not want sleepy creepy corrupt joe as POTUS nor his sleezy vp
I can see it if you support the rioting and looting the left unleashed this year and voted for more of the same .. which is where this is headed.
Most of us do not think the police or average joe is a racist
If you support that hog wash then there is no hope in discussing any of this with that mindset
You'd think the pound me too movement would have been against a woman who got a head in politics by performing it on her superiors
But if anything is 2 faced its the left
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 01:32:05 PM
You are just extreme as the most crazy trump supporter if you think you can justy voting dem this election to the majority of hard working honest Americans
Yes the majority did not want sleepy creepy corrupt joe as POTUS nor his sleezy vp
I can see it if you support the rioting and looting the left unleashed this year and voted for more of the same .. which is where this is headed.
Most of us do not think the police or average joe is a racist
If you support that hog wash then there is no hope in discussing any of this with that mindset
You'd think the pound me too movement would have been against a woman who got a head in politics by performing it on her superiors
But if anything is 2 faced its the left
Eagler
You haven't got back to me about what you thought about what the Senate Intelligence Committee determined.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 01:42:26 PM
Somehow Trump and his family should go to prison for beating the establishment in an election they thought he was going to lose.
But no one else in government should go to prison. Not Obama for selling weapons to ISIS used in terrorist attacks or giving billions in cash to Iran. Or murdering thousands in Syria with drones. Not Hillary and people involved in her Clinton foundation that extorted countries and trafficked woman and children. Not Brennan, not clapper. Just go watch Clinton Cash. Go read about the men who died trying to testify against her. Not 40 year politicians who got us into this mess, which is why I am so outraged that so many can be anti trump knowing what we know.
Nope, no one should go to prison except Trump and his cabinet for exposing the globalist empire.
This is why I can't take these people seriously. If they were calling for arrest of their actual corruption. I might take them seriously. They only want to go after one guy who spent 4 years in government and got us out of all the wars Bush, Hillary, and Obama put us in.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 16, 2020, 01:48:29 PM
Prior to ignoring the person you are responding to, I had only ever ignored two others. They were eventually banned and left.
This thread is showing why so many have spent the last 4 years trying to undermine the US. Not realizing that they live here too and they are just harming their own family. California and New York are paying the price and it will be getting much worse for both of those places. They will vote the way they vote and act like that has nothing to do with what is happening to them right now.
Like I posted before...... this games problems are not the game, it is the people.
wait I live in California, what price am i paying other than supporting states that can't seem to get by without us?
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 01:48:36 PM
$5 says Donny jets off to Russia, Saudi Arabia, or UAE for an extended "visit" to avoid prosecution.
Run, Donny! Run!
:rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2020, 01:49:30 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/Q6at5YV.png)
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ramesis on December 16, 2020, 01:53:27 PM
Your side had to shut down voting and then cheat at 4am using cartel tactics to steal the election. Along with machines vote swapping which happened in live TV and is undeniable.
We won't concede.
We know the truth.
We have the stats, figures, software, and people involved. 1000s of witnesses and IT professionals testimonies
You had 0 of this with your russia gate scandal.
The courts who thru out these cases are doing a disservice to Americans and proving that our system is full of corruption because they obviously did not even acknowledge any of the testimonies or actual cases. Instantly throwing them out proves they are corrupt and don't care about the country.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 16, 2020, 01:59:42 PM
Your side had to shut down voting and then cheat at 4am using cartel tactics to steal the election. Along with machines vote swapping which happened in live TV and is undeniable.
We won't concede.
We know the truth.
We have the stats, figures, software, and people involved. 1000s of witnesses and IT professionals testimonies
You had 0 of this with your russia gate scandal.
The courts who thru out these cases are doing a disservice to Americans and proving that our system is full of corruption because they obviously did not even acknowledge any of the testimonies or actual cases. Instantly throwing them out proves they are corrupt and don't care about the country.
You haven't got back to me about what you thought about what the Senate Intelligence Committee determined.
I really dont give a crap what another body of this seemly very corrupt gov says at this point as sadly it seems to be much deeper than anyone thought previous to this year.
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 02:08:04 PM
I really dont give a crap what another body of this seemly very corrupt gov says at this point as sadly it seems to be much deeper than anyone thought previous to this year.
Eagler
Said like a true seditionist.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2020, 02:10:16 PM
Your side had to shut down voting and then cheat at 4am using cartel tactics to steal the election. Along with machines vote swapping which happened in live TV and is undeniable.
We won't concede.
We know the truth.
We have the stats, figures, software, and people involved. 1000s of witnesses and IT professionals testimonies
You had 0 of this with your russia gate scandal.
The courts who thru out these cases are doing a disservice to Americans and proving that our system is full of corruption because they obviously did not even acknowledge any of the testimonies or actual cases. Instantly throwing them out proves they are corrupt and don't care about the country.
Your mind is so twisted with these outrages conspiracy theories that you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you in the butt.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 02:14:44 PM
I've seen you post this a lot, lately. That could be your own wired brain giving you a subliminal message. I know you're the one used to doing all the pushing and that you don't handle push back well. Perhaps you should give it a rest and come back fresh. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 03:21:31 PM
Uhhh Trump is not the DOJ buddy... Trump can't just go around arresting people.
I hear the military might though.
There's a lot of swamp creatures our military will hopefully take down soon.
I'm tired of the China/international sellouts who have ruined and divided this country with their media propaganda.
Biden will not be elected. He is an actual national security threat. Just imagined what is classified that we don't even know yet
so if trump is not the jd, how did he give them a pass. I'm using your own words.
you can't have it both ways. the president is supposed to uphold the law. so either they didn't do any criminal activity or trump failed to uphold the law and should be prosecuted for that.
semp
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 03:58:20 PM
"The officials would not discuss details of those measures, but the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed that it is considering banning laptops and other large electronic devices from carry-on bags on flights between Europe and the United States. The United States and Britain imposed a similar ban in March affecting travelers passing through airports in 10 Muslim-majority countries."
Remember when I talked about planes being taken over and controlled in mid air to crash, and how many airline crashes with important people on them happen (aka all of the aides doctors a few years ago). You all said I was crazy then too.
Do you know why Russia was against us in Syria? We were funding isis and the overthrow of Assad to build oil pipelines for Genie energy. We have pictures of McCain meeting with ISIS leaders. Why does the MSM and establishment lovs McCain so much now? Our 'allies' are UN globalist using terrorism to take over countries using color revolutions and mass immigration to make them submit to the world order.
Well....this is what Trump was warning them about. Sure is strange how warning a country that' their planes might crash or be framed for crashing planes is a bad thing.
This article is actually the national security threat because its designed to sew distrust in president Trump while telling ISIS and IS that we know about their technology now. This is designed to undermine Trump and make him look like a bad guy for helping another country identify terrorist activity. Imagine that.
I know why your media enteprised are so scared. I hope one day that classified information will be released so we can see what the media has really been doing to undermine and propagandize Americans.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2020, 04:12:57 PM
Too bad it's too late for you to apply for press secretary.
Remember when I talked about planes being taken over and controlled in mid air to crash, and how many airline crashes with important people on them happen (aka all of the aides doctors a few years ago). You all said I was crazy then too.
I remember when you were absolutely convinced that "Contrails" were Chemtrails and offered proof by posting pictures of said "Chemtrails" on here revealing where you live. . .lol
But I'll Bite. . . . How Many Airline crashes were there? A friend of mine is asking.
BTW Youthful ignorance, being impressionable and unable to think for yourself without "Researching via Youtube" does not equate to being Crazy. However, its painfully obvious that you don't leave the security of "what you want" to know.
If you paint a broad picture of everything bad and speak ill of people here and from other countries its because of what you read and watch. If you ever have an opportunity to travel and visit other places whether domestically or internationally you may be surprised that people pretty much everywhere want what you want. Peace and Security, Food in their tummy and a place to call home - most are willing to work hard for that luxury. That would include the dirty Dems, dirty Republicans, dirty Socialist, and the dirty Commies.
It's the youth that are full of themselves, that want to make a mark on this earth, that the politicians pray on to do their bidding for them. It has always been and will probably always be. Don't misunderstand me - there are times that its required to protect our nation and others. Unfortunately it is the price in lives that "we" the ponds must pay for the bungling by our politicians.
So with all the self educating you take on to keep yourself informed, I am surprised that this point eludes you and you allow yourself to be victim to this Centuries old con game or perhaps you don't?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 05:49:21 PM
I remember when you were absolutely convinced that "Contrails" were Chemtrails and offered proof by posting pictures of said "Chemtrails" on here revealing where you live. . .lol
But I'll Bite. . . . How Many Airline crashes were there? A friend of mine is asking.
BTW Youthful ignorance, being impressionable and unable to think for yourself without "Researching via Youtube" does not equate to being Crazy. However, its painfully obvious that you don't leave the security of "what you want" to know.
If you paint a broad picture of everything bad and speak ill of people here and from other countries its because of what you read and watch. If you ever have an opportunity to travel and visit other places whether domestically or internationally you may be surprised that people pretty much everywhere want what you want. Peace and Security, Food in their tummy and a place to call home - most are willing to work hard for that luxury. That would include the dirty Dems, dirty Republicans, dirty Socialist, and the dirty Commies.
It's the youth that are full of themselves, that want to make a mark on this earth, that the politicians pray on to do their bidding for them. It has always been and will probably always be. Don't misunderstand me - there are times that its required to protect our nation and others. Unfortunately it is the price in lives that "we" the ponds must pay for the bungling by our politicians.
So with all the self educating you take on to keep yourself informed, I am surprised that this point eludes you and you allow yourself to be victim to this Centuries old con game or perhaps you don't?
Yeah, I don't live there anymore. I still live in Portland though and it gets trashier and trashier every day with homeless drug addict zombies throwing their trash all over the place. Never seen anything like it. This democrat city is just like so many others. It seems to be the way democrat policies actually effect those cities. There is so much anger here over "racism" when infact the confederate (real confederates) have been in power since the beginning of Portland. Its not a shock today that there is still so much racism here being used by democrats to destroy their own city.
That's what's called being prayed on by politicians to do their bidding.
People like me recognize and understand that they are the confused ones. I am trying to show them why and how. (Half these people don't even know what gender they are). Thats a product of education propaganda used to make our country weaker. They dont want masculine men, where did all the real rock music go? I recognize an agenda that so many seem to not see for some reason. I have studied a little bit about how psychological subversion works. Its being used daily on Americans thru our media, while they project it on to one guy, Trump.
I recognize that the majority of people are peaceful and just want to be left alone. If you watch Clinton Cash, you will see the greed that has ruined it for many countries around the world.
If you cannot recognize the color revolutions being sparked on Americans, than I dont know what to tell you. They played the black national Anthem at the Michigan hearing the other day. Thats a perfect example of a cultural imposter changing our traditions thru coercion.
I am not sure why I am the crazy one for pointing out the obvious. It seems common sense ain't so common anymore.
We finally had a President who loves America and builds up the American spirit with 5 rallies a day with 25,000 going to them all over the country. Yet, we are the deranged people? Do you see how the psychological manipulation works? I am not even allowed to love my country anymore. Thats called clown world.
Im not sure how you all fall for it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2020, 06:05:22 PM
Unwash your brain, young'n. Trump loves Trump and only Trump. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 16, 2020, 06:08:26 PM
They dont want masculine men, where did all the real rock music go?
you are young, but i grew up listening to rock and roll and hearing the older generation complain about what happened to back in the day when men were men, knew how to dress and had great music.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 06:12:24 PM
LoL
Tell us about the ChemTrails DmonSlayr.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 06:21:43 PM
you are young, but i grew up listening to rock and roll and hearing the older generation complain about what happened to back in the day when men were men, knew how to dress and had great music.
semp
Main Stream Music is part of the agenda. Its been reduced to nothing but booty shaking for little girls and doing drugs for teens. Just go look up the song WAP. Thats how far the Satanist have destroyed MS music and woman's innocence.
Look at how black men (not all of course) use to dress in the 40s compared to now. Music has given them the gangster mentality. Saggy pants and white tank tops.
Don't you see it? This is how propaganda thru the TV using Celebrities manipulates styles and actions. Many teenagers become drug dealers and womanizer. Then end up in prison like some of my friends.
Easy access to heroin and meth have destroyed our youth.
It really is an agenda to destroy us.
Anyway, my brain actually does hurt now, so I will be taking a long break.
As my dad use to say, "hear me now, understand me later".
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 16, 2020, 06:24:38 PM
Anyway, my brain actually does hurt now, so I will be taking a long break.
Wait! Wait!!
Don't go before explaining the ChemTrails to us!!!!!
BTW, your brain hurts because the ChiComs know you are a Patriot Warrior and they are attacking you with microwave beamed from 5G towers. Use extra layers of foil.
:aok
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 16, 2020, 06:29:56 PM
Here I was blaming music trends over the last decade and a half on DS. :headscratch:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 16, 2020, 06:51:50 PM
Main Stream Music is part of the agenda. Its been reduced to nothing but booty shaking for little girls and doing drugs for teens. Just go look up the song WAP. Thats how far the Satanist have destroyed MS music and woman's innocence.
Look at how black men (not all of course) use to dress in the 40s compared to now. Music has given them the gangster mentality. Saggy pants and white tank tops.
Don't you see it? This is how propaganda thru the TV using Celebrities manipulates styles and actions. Many teenagers become drug dealers and womanizer. Then end up in prison like some of my friends.
Easy access to heroin and meth have destroyed our youth.
It really is an agenda to destroy us.
Anyway, my brain actually does hurt now, so I will be taking a long break.
As my dad use to say, "hear me now, understand me later".
go look at how people of all colors dress in the 40s, compare to now.
btw when rock started they said about us that it was perverting us.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 16, 2020, 06:57:01 PM
Don't go before explaining the ChemTrails to us!!!!!
BTW, your brain hurts because the ChiComs know you are a Patriot Warrior and they are attacking you with microwave beamed from 5G towers. Use extra layers of foil.
:aok
I have no idea if making fun of this gent - or using sarcasm toward his beliefs, has any hope of helping him to question the ideas put forth by his keepers or his sovereigns, but sadly I doubt it. As a career long airline pilot, I just laugh when I hear people who choose to believe that airplane contrails are some sort of mind bending personality altering chemical. I thought he accepted my explanation when I described in detail how all internal combustion engines make water.... but, oh well <sigh>. I also get really PO'd when the the suggestion is raised that an airliner can be taken over by some ground based malicious software tool and crashed. Seems television shows would also like to present that idea in some ridiculous murderous mysteries. Whatever your point of view, airliners are under the sole control of the pilots. So very many people are deeply caught up in these extreme right wing groups that accept and profess these unprovable conspiracies. I wonder if it isn't time for the rest of the country to assess whether these groups present a real danger to the nation, and maybe more importantly, to look into ways and means to help these people get free from the cult psychology.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 07:18:43 PM
I have no idea if making fun of this gent - or using sarcasm toward his beliefs, has any hope of helping him to question the ideas put forth by his keepers or his sovereigns, but sadly I doubt it. As a career long airline pilot, I just laugh when I hear people who choose to believe that airplane contrails are some sort of mind bending personality altering chemical. I thought he accepted my explanation when I described in detail how all internal combustion engines make water.... but, oh well <sigh>. I also get really PO'd when the the suggestion is raised that an airliner can be taken over by some ground based malicious software tool and crashed. Seems television shows would also like to present that idea in some ridiculous murderous mysteries. Whatever your point of view, airliners are under the sole control of the pilots. So very many people are deeply caught up in these extreme right wing groups that accept and profess these unprovable conspiracies. I wonder if it isn't time for the rest of the country to assess whether these groups present a real danger to the nation, and maybe more importantly, to look into ways and means to help these people get free from the cult psychology.
I have not mentioned chemtrails one time in this thread. Its naive to think geo engineering isn't a real thing. There are quite a few reports on it if you look around. The military started studying it pretty deeply in the early 50s. A similar example of sorts is when Arlo posted that thread of the smoke wall on that ship. Now that is not geo engineering, however, it shows that a tremendous amount of smoke can be released from a plane that ain't exhaust.
And oh BTW, looking up information doesn't make you be in a cult.
Sayin the word cult is a new deep state tactic to once again label truth finders as crazy. No different than conspiracy theorist. The real followers of the cult are the ones who defend the deep state and act like they arent pushing an agenda.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 16, 2020, 07:34:53 PM
I have not mentioned chemtrails one time in this thread. Its naive to think geo engineering isn't a real thing. There are quite a few reports on it if you look around. The military started studying it pretty deeply in the early 50s. A similar example of sorts is when Arlo posted that thread of the smoke wall on that ship. Now that is not geo engineering, however, it shows that a tremendous amount of smoke can be released from a plane that ain't exhaust.
And oh BTW, looking up information doesn't make you be in a cult.
Sayin the word cult is a new deep state tactic to once again label truth finders as crazy. No different than conspiracy theorist. The real followers of the cult are the ones who defend the deep state and act like they arent pushing an agenda.
hey look this up. where did the idea of a deep state originated? hint: not the usa.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 16, 2020, 08:20:04 PM
Seems he didn't know I wasn't talking to him.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 08:52:31 PM
I thought he accepted my explanation when I described in detail how all internal combustion engines make water.... but, oh well <sigh>.
Its hard to convey a point with little context and that's my bad.
I was actually trying to make the point that "He" had mentioned the "Chemtrail" thing way back around 2016 or so (don't quote me on the year) and I too believed that he took your explanation into consideration, and because I assume he did - I believe that he - or anybody for that matter - is capable of changing their mind if the information can be presented in a manner that makes sense to them. Many -a- people just take what they read or is told to them as gospel.
To honestly change your mind on a subject like the one above you have to take the time, rationalize the subject, analyze and question your belief system and be truthful enough with yourself to arrive at a conclusion. Inexperience, lack of knowledge or whatever you want to call it (not to imply insult) can muddle perception and understanding.
I did have to question the Airline takeover thingy though. . . . . .lol
I have not mentioned chemtrails one time in this thread.
My intention was not to say that you had - rather that it was an instance as described above where "I" believe you at least considered the explanation and I was under the impression that you may have at least found the explanation "somewhat" credible.
The Airline takeover was a goad the rest of it was not intended to be construed that way. I may have come across with too much sarcasm.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2020, 09:13:16 PM
Its hard to convey a point with little context and that's my bad.
I was actually trying to make the point that "He" had mentioned the "Chemtrail" thing way back around 2016 or so (don't quote me on the year) and I too believed that he took your explanation into consideration, and because I assume he did - I believe that he - or anybody for that matter - is capable of changing their mind if the information can be presented in a manner that makes sense to them. Many -a- people just take what is told to them as gospel.
To honestly change your mind on a subject above you have to take the time, rationalize the subject, analyze and question your belief system and be truthful enough with yourself to arrive at a conclusion. Inexperience, lack of knowledge or whatever you want to call it (not to imply insult) can muddle perception and understanding.
I did have to question the Airline takeover thingy though. . . . . .lol
My intention was not to say that you had - rather that it was an instance as described above where "I" believe you at least considered the explanation and I was under the impression that you may have at least found the explanation "somewhat" credible.
The Airline takeover was a goad the rest of it was not intended to be construed that way. I may have come across with too much sarcasm.
I did take his explanation into consideration and believed he is right. That doesn't mean I still don't question that they are doing it or geo engineering weather.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 16, 2020, 09:28:53 PM
WOW - The deep state will control the weather now? That's great... I hate winter :rolleyes:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on December 16, 2020, 10:01:09 PM
I did take his explanation into consideration and believed he is right. That doesn't mean I still don't question that they are doing it or geo engineering weather.
back in the 80s there was a dry spell in California. somebody don't remember who, came up with the idea to use silver something, they "seeded" the clouds see if it would work. was a waste of 250k dollars.
from those few tries, I believe, came what your bio engineering crap came from, heck for all i know that's where the chem trails stared.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 16, 2020, 10:37:07 PM
back in the 80s there was a dry spell in California. somebody don't remember who, came up with the idea to use silver something, they "seeded" the clouds see if it would work. was a waste of 250k dollars.
from those few tries, I believe, came what your bio engineering crap came from, heck for all i know that's where the chem trails stared.
semp
Actually it's not crap. The most common chemicals used for cloud seeding include silver iodide, potassium iodide and dry ice (solid carbon dioxide). Liquid propane, which expands into a gas, has also been used. This can produce ice crystals at higher temperatures than silver iodide. After promising research, the use of hygroscopic materials, such as table salt, is becoming more popular. Keep in mind, it's cloud seeding. Rarely are there clouds to seed during a serious drought.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ramesis on December 17, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
But it’s high city sales taxes and VAT taxes that combine to make it higher.
I thought you just posted you live in NC?
The tuna fleet in San Diego often puts a fuel surcharge on top of the cost when diesel gets goes over $3
I said I lived in nc, when I first moved there on 1992 as my company moved there. just for your info and you can check easily by going into the state tax schedules.
on income of 50k after all deductions. filing married.
CA: about 1k NC: about 2,700
rest of the southern states total state income tax is twice what is in california. see the thing most people think the max rate in california applies to everybody. it doesnt, your rate increases as your income goes up. in most of the southern states, it's a flat rate, about 5%. in california you would have to make about 87k to pay the same as in nc making 50k
semp
edit: california doesnt tax food. I do pay 5 bucks in tax for cigarretes maybe more, maybe less, beer not sure. non food items is depending on which county you live. not sure somewhere around 6-10%. cars taxes are high but not any higher than in nc, then again I havent lived there in 20 years. however I do know that food is cheaper at least where I live than what I used to pay in nc.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 17, 2020, 09:02:44 PM
The tuna fleet in San Diego often puts a fuel surcharge on top of the cost when diesel gets goes over $3
The tuna fleet has no choice as fuel cost isn't subsidized by our government like other governments do for their fishing fleet. I remember when I was a kid living in San Diego, the tuna fleet being gutted and almost disappeared from San Diego because Mexico wouldn't let the SD tuna fleet go into Mexican waters and almost 3/4 of the tuna fleet left San Diego. The tuna fleet hasn't recovered and is about to lost 1/2 of the remaining fleet.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 17, 2020, 09:57:40 PM
The tuna fleet has no choice as fuel cost isn't subsidized by our government like other governments do for their fishing fleet. I remember when I was a kid living in San Diego, the tuna fleet being gutted and almost disappeared from San Diego because Mexico wouldn't let the SD tuna fleet go into Mexican waters and almost 3/4 of the tuna fleet left San Diego. The tuna fleet hasn't recovered and is about to lost 1/2 of the remaining fleet.
Covid has hit them hard to this year but it was a great BF, YF and dorado season.
During the “Great Recession” the tuna fleet was hit harder than it is now.
With a 10 year absence now of much albacore it’s a big part of the equation. The timeframe you’re referring to, we could count on (took for granted), practically set your watch/calendar for limits of albacore in late June into July and then as waters got warmer the yellowfin. Such is not the case anymore.
Yes the boats/owners have to put that surcharge on to keep their boats... CA fuel costs/taxes get passed onto customers in all kinds of recreational activities unfortunately.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 17, 2020, 10:02:13 PM
We’veseen many good tuna boats come and go unfortunately.
We’ve also seen many bad owners/captains come and go too.
The Pacific Voyager, the Ocean Odyssey are just two examples of awesome tuna boat owners and almost always sold out or chartered with no open spots.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ramesis on December 18, 2020, 03:02:36 PM
"The Boston Massacre was a deadly riot that occurred on March 5, 1770, on King Street in Boston. "
You must be a foreigner.
No born and bred in the US... history is written by the victors... the Boston Massacre was the one of the events that began the revolution... ur revisionists theories are hogwash :salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ramesis on December 18, 2020, 03:04:35 PM
No born and bred in the US... history is written by the victors... the Boston Massacre was the one of the events that began the revolution... ur revisionists theories are hogwash :salute
You’ve probably been told this before but you often don’t make any sense.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 18, 2020, 03:23:23 PM
Really, what was Jefferson trying to say when he wrote that? :salute
Jefferson opposed vehemently the Alien and Sedition Laws of 1798 which granted the President enormous powers to restrict the activities of supporters of the French Revolution in the United States. Jefferson kept his authorship of the opposing Kentucky Resolutions a secret until 1821.
Amid mounting tensions, Federalists accused Republicans of being in league with France against their own country’s government. Writing in June 1798 in the Gazette of the United States, Alexander Hamilton called the Jeffersonians “more Frenchmen than Americans” and claimed that they were prepared “to immolate the independence and welfare of their country at the shrine of France.”
Fears of an imminent French invasion led the Adams administration to begin war preparations and pass a new land tax to pay for them.
With fears of enemy spies infiltrating American society, the Federalist majority in Congress passed four new laws in June and July 1798, collectively known as the Alien and Sedition Acts.
Even as the bitter debates between the two fledgling political parties were being played out in rival newspapers and other publications, the new law outlawed any “false, scandalous and malicious writing” against Congress or the president, and made it illegal to conspire “to oppose any measure or measures of the government.”
In the end, widespread anger over the Alien and Sedition Acts fueled Jefferson’s victory over Adams in the bitterly contested 1800 presidential election, and their passage is widely considered to be one of the biggest mistakes of Adams’ presidency.
By 1802, all of the Alien and Sedition Acts had been repealed or expired, save for the Alien Enemies Act, which has stayed on the books. In 1918, Congress amended the act to include women.
Suppose that over the course of a few months, a small band of armed militants has coordinated strategies to distribute firearms and take over the nation's capital by force through a website on the clandestine "deep web." All indications show that the group is dead serious in its intentions, but they're thwarted by an FBI investigation that leads to arrests. While sharing information and discussing ideas -- even distasteful ones -- is generally protected as free speech, the FBI believes this crosses the line. The alleged ringleaders of the plot are charged with "seditious conspiracy" (simply referred to as "sedition"), a federal crime related to treason and other anti-government offenses.
Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. The following provides an overview of this particular crime against the government, with historical references.
The federal law against seditious conspiracy can be found in Title 18 of the U.S. Code (which includes treason, rebellion, and similar offenses), specifically 18 U.S.C. § 2384. According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States:
To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against them; To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States; or To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.
Many of the more high-profile seditious conspiracy cases won by the U.S. government involve Puerto Rican nationalists plotting to overthrow the U.S. and assert their independence. The first was Pedro Albizu Campos, who (along with nine accomplices) was convicted of sedition in 1937 and jailed for 10 years for attempting to overthrow the government. He and others had been active members of the Nationalist Party, which (according the U.S. prosecutors) was aimed at independence through force. Other, similar cases involving Puerto Rican nationalists followed.
More recently, in 2010, nine members of a militia group called "the Hutaree" spanning Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana were charged with seditious conspiracy on suspicion of planning an armed conflict against federal, state, and local law enforcement. They were acquitted by a judge in 2012, however, due to insufficient evidence.
Read it for urself Arlo... the quote below is quoted from Monticello's papers :salute
"Societies exist under three forms sufficiently distinguishable. 1. Without government, as among our Indians. 2. Under governments wherein the will of every one has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree, and in our states in a great one. 3. Under governments of force: as is the case in all other monarchies and in most of the other republics. To have an idea of the curse of existence under these last, they must be seen. It is a government of wolves over sheep. It is a problem, not clear in my mind, that the 1st. condition is not the best. But I believe it to be inconsistent with any great degree of population. The second state has a great deal of good in it. The mass of mankind under that enjoys a precious degree of liberty and happiness. It has it’s evils too: the principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical.1 Unsuccesful rebellions indeed generally establish the incroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions, as not to discourage them too much. It is a medecine necessary for the sound health of government." - Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, Paris, January 30, 17872
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 08:32:11 AM
So your stance is that it's ok for you to be a seditionist because Jefferson said it was ok (though he thought it wise to hide his authorship)? Your history stops short of the Civil War? That's conveniently stupid. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 19, 2020, 09:59:36 AM
Odd how a request to throughly investigate a clearly shady election devolved into civil war speak
Both sides should be ok with an open investigation of every aspect of possible voter fraud regardless of how long it would take and with whoever is then determined to be the victor.
Until that happens half the country will not be satisfied
Question should be if sleepy creepy corrupt joe actually had a record voter turn out his side should be screaming loudest for this audit
Since they are doing the exact opposite only strengthens peoples doubts of the reported results.
I still hope the audit is performed but would not bet on it given what has been said and done by the repubs since election day as most of them want orange man out as bad as the left
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 10:08:01 AM
Yeah, a four year audit! No, twelve! No, twenty! Never mind that there's no actual basis and it's crazy talk. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 19, 2020, 10:23:07 AM
Isn' t that what nancy and the toad have done with the russian horse poop for the last 4 years?
To bad the repubs dont have the same drive and media support to now do the same to the left
Eagler
Work with your state's election board to make what ever changes you want in your state. The time to do that is before elections not after you decided you don't like the outcome.
Unless you can prove IN COURT, not on cable TV or Twitter, that there has be large scale fraud that materially effected the outcome of the election, then THIS election is over. 60 court cases. Nada. Zip. zilch.
Biden won. Deal with it.
All the rest of the horse dung about biased media and Venezuelan voting machines if just a bunch psychological thumb-sucking by pouting Trumpkins who can't yet accept their orange pig-god lost.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on December 19, 2020, 11:28:16 AM
Is Texas n Mexico?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 19, 2020, 11:38:41 AM
So many here seem to be in love with embracing new Marxist and socialist USA.
That is a false canard you like to tell yourself to sooth your bruised ego after your orange pig-god was defeated when you were soooo sure of victory.
Being anti-Trump does not make you a Marxist. Voting for a Democrat does not make you a Socialist. I'm not saying there are no Marxists or Socialists in this country. There are, just like there are members of the KKK.
But the majority of Americans voted against Trump in this election I suspect not because they are all Communists, but because they didn't want to watch Trump and his red-hat/ Brown-shirt MAGA thugs turn this country into a Putin-esque authoritarian state.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 12:35:37 PM
That is a false canard you like to tell yourself to sooth your bruised ego after your orange pig-god was defeated when you were soooo sure of victory.
Being anti-Trump does not make you a Marxist. Voting for a Democrat does not make you a Socialist. I'm not saying there are no Marxists or Socialists in this country. There are, just like there are members of the KKK.
But the majority of Americans voted against Trump in this election I suspect not because they are all Communists, but because they didn't want to watch Trump and his red-hat/ Brown-shirt MAGA thugs turn this country into a Putin-esque authoritarian state.
Bow to China, your new master!
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 19, 2020, 01:46:17 PM
All the rest of the horse dung about biased media and Venezuelan voting machines if just a bunch psychological thumb-sucking by pouting Trumpkins who can't yet accept their orange pig-god lost.
With your perceived “win” you’re really showing how terrible of a gracious winner you are.
Man you must have been a real peach to be around the last 4 yrs and oh my the day Hillary conceded.
:uhoh
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 02:41:48 PM
With your perceived “win” you’re really showing how terrible of a gracious winner you are.
Man you must have been a real peach to be around the last 4 yrs and oh my the day Hillary conceded.
:uhoh
With your actual loss you’re really showing how terrible of a gracious loser Trump and Trumpers are.
Man you are going to be a real peach to be around the next 4 yrs as we transition from defeating Trump at the ballot box to the relentless, merciless prosecution of him and his grifter kids.
:uhoh
(BTW, I didn't vote for Hillary in 2016. That is just another example of your limited, two-dimensional thinking. I voted Libertarian. But I did vote for Biden in 2020 only because he had the best chance of defeating Trump. Which he did. :rofl)
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ramesis on December 19, 2020, 02:49:49 PM
And thus the recipe for revolution... I think it was Thomas Jefferson whom wrote (I'm paraphrasing) a revolution every so often is a good thing for the country :salute
Jeez Arlo, as u have so often posted, read what I posted... I was merely paraphrasing what Jefferson wrote... do I need to repost the quote?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 19, 2020, 02:52:19 PM
For all of you calling people sore losers for weeks now and at the same time trying to rub in your “win”.
Conflict in your personality...and telling people who don’t see things as you do that they NEED medication for it. :O
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 19, 2020, 02:55:22 PM
With your actual loss you’re really showing how terrible of a gracious loser Trump and Trumpers are.
Man you are going to be a real peach to be around the next 4 yrs as we transition from defeating Trump at the ballot box to the relentless, merciless prosecution of him and his grifter kids.
:uhoh
(BTW, I didn't vote for Hillary in 2016. That is just another example of your limited, two-dimensional thinking. I voted Libertarian. But I did vote for Biden in 2020 only because he had the best chance of defeating Trump. Which he did. :rofl)
Deflection works better when you don’t use the other person’s words and actually come up with original thought.
:rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 03:00:00 PM
Jeez Arlo, as u have so often posted, read what I posted... I was merely paraphrasing what Jefferson wrote... do I need to repost the quote?
Only as much as you thought you needed to, originally. If sedition appeals to you, sell it. Sell it hard. To hell with potential consequence. :aok
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 03:01:07 PM
A Political Obituary for Donald Trump (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/01/the-legacy-of-donald-trump/617255/?fbclid=IwAR2ucriHiUIBuyeZN-t2tXznZSc3sE8xd6kfTRqDsgMQvfWxE859XYKXC9c)
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 19, 2020, 03:16:49 PM
Deflection works better when you don’t use the other person’s words and actually come up with original thought.
:rofl
It's reflection, not deflection. And using your own words against you only illuminates how empty and banal you attempted attacks are.
Trump and Trumpkins are not only epic sore losers, but they are now bordering on seditious traitors attempting to dismantle our election process because what they really want is to install Trump as a Putin type authoritarian in this country and dispense with all the inconveniences of democracy.
After 5 years of Uber Alles MAGA chest thumping, don't expect an ounce of graciousness in return. You'll be lucky if we don't set up Nuremburg trials.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 19, 2020, 05:31:37 PM
It's reflection, not deflection. And using your own words against you only illuminates how empty and banal you attempted attacks are.
Trump and Trumpkins are not only epic sore losers, but they are now bordering on seditious traitors attempting to dismantle our election process because what they really want is to install Trump as a Putin type authoritarian in this country and dispense with all the inconveniences of democracy.
After 5 years of Uber Alles MAGA chest thumping, don't expect an ounce of graciousness in return. You'll be lucky if we don't set up Nuremburg trials.
As of the 6:00pm news, insiders in an oval office meeting reporting a white house screaming match among Trump, Powell, Meadows and other legal advisers. Reports say Trump is looking for an avenue to set aside the election and keep power. This guy is losing it.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 19, 2020, 06:14:55 PM
It's reflection, not deflection. And using your own words against you only illuminates how empty and banal you attempted attacks are.
Trump and Trumpkins are not only epic sore losers, but they are now bordering on seditious traitors attempting to dismantle our election process because what they really want is to install Trump as a Putin type authoritarian in this country and dispense with all the inconveniences of democracy.
After 5 years of Uber Alles MAGA chest thumping, don't expect an ounce of graciousness in return. You'll be lucky if we don't set up Nuremburg trials.
:noid
You made spit out my coffee. Keep it coming :rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 19, 2020, 06:36:24 PM
As of the 6:00pm news, insiders in an oval office meeting reporting a white house screaming match among Trump, Powell, Meadows and other legal advisers. Reports say Trump is looking for an avenue to set aside the election and keep power. This guy is losing it.
And you have a disgraced ex-general, in Trump's inner circle now, standing in the Oval Office this evening, advising the President he should declare marshal law and force the states who voted against him to re-vote until he gets the answer he wants.
Every citizen should stop and seriously consider what that would mean. Even a complete brain-washed Waffen-MAGA supporter like RotBaron should be given pause at that thought. An ex-general, in the oval office, advising the President to use the military to force states to keep re-voting until he gets the results he wants.
This is not a reality TV show season finally these seditious Trump buffoons are screwing with. This is our country. If a corrupt, power-mad monster like Trump is allowed to even try to pull that off, that is a bell that can never be un-rung in our nations history. That is crossing a Rubicon that could fundamentally change the kind of country your grandkids will be left.
Do you really want America to look like Putin's Russia?
You Trumpkins to stop and think about what you are doing and supporting. This is the point when you are in Jonestown waiting in line for your cup or cyanide laced Kool-Aid. You need to stop and consider if this is worth it just to show your unthinking loyalty and subservience to a power-crazed madman.
This sort of BS could spiral out of control.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 19, 2020, 06:56:48 PM
This evening?
Lol you’re late to the news, not surprising as you get your news and opinion from MSLSD.
:rofl
McInerney or Flynn?
Both have advised him on Martial Law. Btw numerous Presidents have used it before in times of uncertainty and unrest...might want to get a reliable history book out every now and then.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 19, 2020, 07:50:57 PM
What would the dems do if the roles were reversed?
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 19, 2020, 08:18:27 PM
Lol you’re late to the news, not surprising as you get your news and opinion from MSLSD.
:rofl
McInerney or Flynn?
Both have advised him on Martial Law. Btw numerous Presidents have used it before in times of uncertainty and unrest...might want to get a reliable history book out every now and then.
Servile bootlickers like you who are ready throw away 230 years of peaceful constitutional transfer of power to aggrandize your orange pig-god, are a perfect example why it existentially necessary to eradicate Trumpism in this country, no matter what it takes.
It is as important as our defeat of Nazi Germany or the Empire of Japan.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Oldman731 on December 19, 2020, 11:47:18 PM
What in the world has happened to you people, that you would talk to each other this way? Really?
We are all here because we enjoy this game/simulation. One of the best things about it is that we enjoy a shared friendship based on our interest in the game experience. Now you're turning each other into enemies over politics.
I thought you were all older and wiser than this. Very disappointing.
- oldman
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 20, 2020, 06:49:57 AM
With your perceived “win” you’re really showing how terrible of a gracious winner you are.
Man you must have been a real peach to be around the last 4 yrs and oh my the day Hillary conceded.
:uhoh
The sore loser is Trump and his merry band of Trumptards that have tried and still trying to destroy our electoral process with unproven claims of fraud.
So RotBaron, why are you so un-American that you willingly support the destruction of our democratic process?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 20, 2020, 08:02:26 AM
Servile bootlickers like you who are ready throw away 230 years of peaceful constitutional transfer of power to aggrandize your orange pig-god, are a perfect example why it existentially necessary to eradicate Trumpism in this country, no matter what it takes.
It is as important as our defeat of Nazi Germany or the Empire of Japan.
Here it is in a nutshell..WOW
Even voter fraud is acceptable
Is a grassy knoll next?
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 20, 2020, 08:22:29 AM
There you go again with your Trump Worshiper delusion.
If you could prove a material level of voter fraud in a court of law, I would back you. But that's your problem. A court of law requires a level of real evidence that you don't have, because it doesn't exist. Not just bullcrap innuendo, or thousands of MAGA supporter affidavits that state "I head from a guy, that heard from a guy, that saw something on the internet saying something was fishy!" Nut-Job accusation on OANN or RT, or Tucker Carlson doesn't constitute evidence.
Waffen-MAGA tards are using that "voter fraud" lie the way the Nazi used the "We were stabbed in back in WWI by the Jews!" lie. And now the MAGA brown-shirts are cheering on a declaration of marshal law and an installation of an authoritarian regime?
I just have to wonder at what point in your Trump idolatry did you decide to just stop being an American.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on December 20, 2020, 11:23:11 AM
Not just bullcrap innuendo, or thousands of MAGA supporter affidavits that state "I head from a guy, that heard from a guy, that saw something on the internet saying something was fishy!" Nut-Job accusation on OANN or RT, or Tucker Carlson doesn't constitute evidence.
So the press secretary going on fox news holding up a bunch of random papers doesn't count? Who knew...
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 20, 2020, 11:29:09 AM
The sore loser is Trump and his merry band of Trumptards that have tried and still trying to destroy our electoral process with unproven claims of fraud.
So RotBaron, why are you so un-American that you willingly support the destruction of our democratic process?
Think you have me quite confused. I don’t support the destruction of our democratic process at all. That would be Antifa, BLM among others.
I support fair and transparent election process and we know that didn’t happen. What looks like proof to some, doesn’t to others. The Dominion machines and known discrepancies with their software is just one example of the lack of transparency atm.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 20, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
There you go again with your Trump Worshiper delusion.
Nut-Job accusation on OANN or RT, or Tucker Carlson doesn't constitute evidence.
Waffen-MAGA tards
I just have to wonder at what point in your Trump idolatry did you decide to just stop being an American.
You’re hatred is extreme.
Trump supporters, not worshippers as you’re calling them are your neighbors at the least, probably some family and friends too. Guess you’re the one really wanting to see them put in camps and the worst. Smh again.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 20, 2020, 01:22:52 PM
Think you have me quite confused. I don’t support the destruction of our democratic process at all. That would be Antifa, BLM among others.
Now you're on the hook to provide valid example. How are anti-fascists and 'Black Lives Matter' protestors destroying the democratic process (akin to a coup such as Trump and his supporters appear to support, by and large)? And what others?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 20, 2020, 04:40:58 PM
My hatred for the seditious traitors like Trump and his minions that are considering declaring martial law, overthrowing our system of election, and installing a Putin like authoritarian, has no measurable upper limit. Extreme or otherwise.
If you were even half of an American, you would feel the same.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 20, 2020, 05:40:46 PM
The sore loser is Trump and his merry band of Trumptards that have tried and still trying to destroy our electoral process with unproven claims of fraud.
So RotBaron, why are you so un-American that you willingly support the destruction of our democratic process?
2 years and 75 million dollars later for the Mueller report, + an impeachment for a call to a country where Biden is indicted now, trying to put a general NSA in prison, putting his fired campaign manager in prison and not podesta, calling Trump a Russian everyday to undermine his campaign and presidency with fake Russian dossier, and somehow we are the sore losers? We have an incredible amount of accusations with affidavits and mathematical data by professionals that the democrats never had. We have far more than they ever had.
Yet we are the sore losers?
Biden did not win this election fairly. If he did, the democrats wouldn't be hiding like they are.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Arlo on December 20, 2020, 05:48:05 PM
Deluded dufus.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 20, 2020, 06:34:02 PM
The oath includes a promise to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. And yet he along with two Qanon supporters, Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn, have discussed using the military to overturn the election. These numbnuts can't provide any credible evidence that this election was in any way illegitimate. How does this kind of behavior gain support, and for that matter, how does it fall short of high treason?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on December 21, 2020, 11:56:23 AM
Now you're on the hook to provide valid example. How are anti-fascists and 'Black Lives Matter' protestors destroying the democratic process (akin to a coup such as Trump and his supporters appear to support, by and large)? And what others?
Good Lawd Arlo... have u not seen the news in the past 6 mos? Are u ok with the destruction of private businesses and the attacking private citizens minding their own business? Seems like anarchy to me... not the democratic process :salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2020, 05:12:55 PM
The Texas suit was rejected by the US Supreme Court on the basis of lack of standing. The issue raised was not adjudicated; the validity or invalidity of the plaintiffs case was not resolved. I am guessing this is why Trump has filed essentially the same suit as the injured party, hoping that the SC will acknowledge his standing. We will see.
So, to review the gist of that Texas lawsuit: The US Constitution grants powers to state legislatures to set election rules. This is indisputably true.
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court unilaterally changed the voting laws passed by the Pennsylvania state legislature, The sis also indisputably true.
In particular, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court unilaterally extended the deadline to receive mail-in ballots by three days after Election Day, even without postmarks. This is also indisputably true.
Indisputably the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did not have the authority to do this under the US Constitution. Therefore, ballots received after the original deadline determined by the Pennsylvania legislature should not count.
Similar situations apply to changes to voting laws made in Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin.
Trump continues his attempt to prove this in court. One would think every US citizen would want the voting laws obeyed.
Right?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TyFoo on December 21, 2020, 07:47:40 PM
Indisputably the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did not have the authority to do this under the US Constitution. Therefore, ballots received after the original deadline determined by the Pennsylvania legislature should not count.
Similar situations apply to changes to voting laws made in Georgia, Michigan and Wisconsin.
One would think every US citizen would want the voting laws obeyed.
Right?
Exactly where in the Constitution does it say that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot do what they did? Where does it say in the Pennsylvania legislative laws that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot make a ruling on a dispute or clarify ambiguity? The very nature of State & Federal Supreme Courts is to evaluate and clarify laws. There is a reason why Government is broken down into 3 branches. So that there is a check and balance. Did that change?
According to 50+ judges there has been no evidence presented to merit changing anything. AG Barr reiterated that sentiment this morning in a News conference.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 21, 2020, 07:56:03 PM
Indisputably the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did not have the authority to do this under the US Constitution. Therefore, ballots received after the original deadline determined by the Pennsylvania legislature should not count.
Trump continues his attempt to prove this in court. One would think every US citizen would want the voting laws obeyed.
Right?
No. Not right. The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in how sovereign States determine there method of voting. 21 States have used mail in voting for years prior to this 2020 election. Texas had no standing in their objection as to how another State manages it's voting procedures.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on December 21, 2020, 08:16:04 PM
Exactly where in the Constitution does it say that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot do what they did? Where does it say in the Pennsylvania legislative laws that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot make a ruling on a dispute or clarify ambiguity? The very nature of State & Federal Supreme Courts is to evaluate and clarify laws. There is a reason why Government is broken down into 3 branches. So that there is a check and balance. Did that change?
According to 50+ judges there has been no evidence presented to merit changing anything. AG Barr reiterated that sentiment this morning in a News conference.
The SC made a ruling to keep votes separate because the Pen SC was likely to be ruled against.
The executive ignored the ruling and did not separate the votes.
Just one of many issues where state exec and state courts counted illegal votes. And the rulings were not interpreting they were substantial changes.
And even a states constitution can not limit a state legislature regarding national elections.
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 21, 2020, 08:17:29 PM
No. Not right. The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in how sovereign States determine there method of voting. 21 States have used mail in voting for years prior to this 2020 election. Texas had no standing in their objection as to how another State manages it's voting procedures.
Maybe California should start suing Texas because they don't like their gun laws.
Trump-tards never think anything through past one step. :rolleyes:
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on December 21, 2020, 08:24:40 PM
No. Not right. The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in how sovereign States determine there method of voting. 21 States have used mail in voting for years prior to this 2020 election. Texas had no standing in their objection as to how another State manages it's voting procedures.
the issue is not how the legislature wrote the laws the issue they were suing for is how the state courts overruled the legislature in conflict with the US Constitution. Per US Constitution states don't determine their own election laws , state legislatures do.
The two are not the same thing.
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Busher on December 21, 2020, 08:31:40 PM
the issue is not how the legislature wrote the laws the issue they were suing for is how the state courts overruled the legislature in conflict with the US Constitution. Per US Constitution states don't determine their own election laws , state legislatures do.
The two are not the same thing.
HiTech
Semantics. In either case SCOTUS saw no standing for Texas to object to Pennsylvania affairs.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2020, 08:35:23 PM
Exactly where in the Constitution does it say that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot do what they did?
Right here:
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Article I Legislative Branch Section 4: Elections
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.
The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day. https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/interpretation/article-i/clauses/750
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Where does it say in the Pennsylvania legislative laws that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court cannot make a ruling on a dispute or clarify ambiguity?
It doesn't. However, there was no dispute and there was no ambiguity.
Pennsylvania Governor Wolf signed Act 77 into law in October 2019. (https://www.governor.pa.gov/newsroom/governor-wolf-signs-election-reform-bill-including-new-mail-in-voting/)
In this Act 77 the Pennsylvania LEGISLATURE, in accordance with Article I/Legislative Branch/Section 4: Elections of the US Constitution, clearly stated that "a completed absentee ballot must be received in the office of the county board of elections no later than eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election."
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The Pennsylvania Legislature passed PENNSYLVANIA ELECTION CODE - OMNIBUS AMENDMENTS Act of Oct. 31, 2019, P.L. 552, No. 77 Cl. 25 Session of 2019 No. 2019-77 SB 421 Section 1306-D. Voting by mail-in electors.
(c) Except as provided under 25 Pa.C.S. § 3511 (relating to receipt of voted ballot), a completed absentee ballot must be received in the office of the county board of elections no later than eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election.
There can be no dispute as to what the legislature wrote into law. "received in the office of the county board of elections no later than eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election" is very clear and very simple. It means what it says. Further there is no ambiguity there; it is quite specific.
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The very nature of State & Federal Supreme Courts is to evaluate and clarify laws.
True. However, what the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did was not an evaluation or a clarification. The PSC did not say the law was evaluated as unconstitutional. The PSC did not clarify the law; nothing can be more clear than " eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election".
What the PSC DID do was LEGISLATE FROM THE BENCH. Which, as you point out in not the responsibility of the Judicial branch of the 3 branches of government. That division of power has not changed.
The PSC added a three-day extension to Act 77, Section 1306-D (c). The PSC does not legislate. Adding three days was legislation.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2020, 08:42:21 PM
No. Not right. The Federal Government has no jurisdiction in how sovereign States determine there method of voting. 21 States have used mail in voting for years prior to this 2020 election. Texas had no standing in their objection as to how another State manages it's voting procedures.
Trump may turn out to have standing as the injured party. That's why he's putting the Pennsylvania case before the SC once again.
I think it's very important to realize the US SC did NOT rule on whether or not the Pennsylvania SC exceeded its authority. They merely refused the case based on standing.
This may yet reach the US SC, if a plaintiff can be found that has standing. Might be Trump. We'll see I guess.
Oh, and the US Constitution Elections Clause definitively states that only the individual state Legislatures can make the rules for their elections. NOT their courts.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 21, 2020, 08:43:21 PM
Maybe California should start suing Texas because they don't like their gun laws.
Oh, I do wish they would! The result would probably as great at Heller or McDonald!
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: perdue3 on December 21, 2020, 09:02:36 PM
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."
This applies to Senators and Representatives, not the President. At least, that is what it says.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Oldman731 on December 21, 2020, 09:13:26 PM
So that you folks can read from the primary source, I've attached a link to the PA SCt's opinion:
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."
This applies to Senators and Representatives, not the President. At least, that is what it says.
You are correct but same wording for electors.
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of "
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: TyFoo on December 21, 2020, 11:44:51 PM
Article I Does not mention what the Pennsylvania Supreme Court can and cannot do. It only says that under Article I the Congress can "overrule/ intervene" a state when their rules (paraphrasing) discriminate.
Quote from: Toad There can be no dispute as to what the legislature wrote into law. "received in the office of the county board of elections no later than eight o'clock P.M. on the day of the primary or election" is very clear and very simple. It means what it says. Further there is no ambiguity there; it is quite specific.
Gov Wolf's Act 77 was further superseded by Gov Wolf extending the "indisputable" deadline by 7 days by Executive Action, which was disputed eventually requiring the Supreme Court to "Evaluate" and rule upon.
Quote from: Toad "The PSC added a three-day extension to Act 77, Section 1306-D (c). The PSC does not legislate. Adding three days was legislation."
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court did not "Add" or "Legislate" three additional days. Rather they ruled upon the disputed extension and reduced the 7 day extension to 3.
Now its up to the SCOTUS. They will either rule in the Presidents favor and find that Pennsylvania was offsides or find that the Presidents case has no merit.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 22, 2020, 04:32:58 AM
Article i of the Constitution doesn't mention the PSC because the PSC is not empowered to prescribe the The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives. Only a state Legislature has that power.
Wolf is not part of the Legislature; therefore he cannot legislate either.
It is indeed up to the US Supreme Court. I, for one, wish the Court would take the case. I would like this issue resolved in a transparent manner.
If this situation were exactly reversed the BidenHarris team would be doing the same thing the Trump team is doing. They'd fight in the courts until the inauguration. Then their Antifa arm would probably riot/loot/burn if they didn't win.
A Reuters-Ipsos opinion poll reported that 55 percent of adults believed the 2020 election was “legitimate and accurate”. That's not a good thing for this country's future elections.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 22, 2020, 07:41:00 AM
A Reuters-Ipsos opinion poll reported that 55 percent of adults believed the 2020 election was “legitimate and accurate”. That's not a good thing for this country's future elections.
A poll? what is that?
Who believes one those these days?
If you put the election polling correction factor in here it is probably closer to 30% think it was legit
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on December 22, 2020, 10:37:21 AM
10 polls 10 different results. Polls can be manipulated with ease. They are not man on the street polls anymore.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 22, 2020, 11:10:32 AM
Family member owned a marketing research company
You can provide whatever results someone is seeking very easily
Polling is a joke and those that take any of them as truth are naive.
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Toad on December 23, 2020, 03:38:07 PM
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 24, 2020, 07:33:11 AM
Wasn't it their choice?
I should be concerned about these old ppl who died doing what they felt they needed to do?
People are responsible for themselves
99% are fine
>50% of small businesses will not be
Hide if you have to due to medical condition or age but let the rest get back to normal while being cautious of the first group
These stories do not scare us like some think they should
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on December 24, 2020, 07:59:14 AM
When government demands you do as they say there is a problem.
Do as I say not as I do is the narrative of the Politicals
The majority of people will not die fron covid....fact
“The words escape me” is the term used by peasants who need to be lead and need to follow.
The people who criticise religion fail to see the nonsense in the non religious world.
Men saying they are women and demanding others WILL agree. BLM gibbering on about dead serial criminals. Climate change...temperatures are rising!! They fell by 3 degrees 6 thousand years ago...fact Everyone is poorer than people were 80 years ago.
The elites got rid of religion and society has more dogma and foolishness than ever.
So how did a kid sniffer get elected?
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 24, 2020, 09:06:22 AM
I have relatives exactly like that out in west Texas. They tell me God is going to protect them.
I tell them, "You know how he does that? He gives you a fricken brain. He's a busy guy. He expects you to be able to work some of the simple sht out yourself."
I told them not to expect me to attend their funerals. Unless they leave me their bass boats. I'll swing by long in enough to hook up and tow those away.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 24, 2020, 09:21:13 AM
It is called free will
Use it while you still can
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 24, 2020, 09:21:54 AM
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Firetech on December 24, 2020, 09:35:10 AM
I am starting up a flag and bumper sticker business in Texas to get ready for 2024. These folks will buy ANYTHING with a Trump name on it. Their belief in the orange clown all that matters so I'll be jumping on the band wagon. Fleece them fools for every cent they got and call it Love for America.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 24, 2020, 09:41:42 AM
I am starting up a flag and bumper sticker business in Texas to get ready for 2024. These folks will buy ANYTHING with a Trump name on it. Their belief in the orange clown all that matters so I'll be jumping on the band wagon. Fleece them fools for every cent they got and call it Love for America.
Welcome to the Fux Newz business model. :rofl
It's also why Trump is dragging this election sht out so long. Longer for him to run his "Election Defense Fund" scam that transfers money from his gullible rube supporters directly into his pockets. That should annoy me on general principle, but I have to admit, I kinda enjoy watching Trumpkins get stolen from due to their own stupidity.
"Make Kleptocracy Great Again!"
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on December 24, 2020, 09:41:56 AM
I am starting up a flag and bumper sticker business in Texas to get ready for 2024. These folks will buy ANYTHING with a Trump name on it. Their belief in the orange clown all that matters so I'll be jumping on the band wagon. Fleece them fools for every cent they got and call it Love for America.
Why wait?
The deplorables are dumb enough to purchase your stickers in 2022 right?
You might make more money selling stickers stating sleepy creepy joe and co for prison as you can start selling those today!
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Firetech on December 24, 2020, 11:30:48 AM
The deplorables are dumb enough to purchase your stickers in 2022 right?
You might make more money selling stickers stating sleepy creepy joe and co for prison as you can start selling those today!
Eagler
Very true.. how many can I put you down for? I'm guessing you and DS have tons of money to spend given your rabid support of all things Trump. At least you'll need some Trump jackets and Trump boots to wear at the rallies.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: CptTrips on December 24, 2020, 12:17:10 PM
Going to be really hard to make up those 7 million votes or 74 Electoral Votes at this rate.
Hell, Zack. I'd even vote for you over the Orange Baboon. So obviously it wouldn't matter to me. Trumps political destruction is the only thing I care about.
You'd have to go ask the other 7 million what they think.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: BoilerDown on February 15, 2021, 01:24:48 PM
California has rolling brown outs because of forest fires, Texas has rolling brown outs when it gets a little cold outside. Pretty embarrassing.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on February 15, 2021, 03:00:45 PM
I belong to a cooking group on Facebook. lots of people asking about recipes that need no electricity. guess lots of people don't have gas stoves.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: NatCigg on February 15, 2021, 08:24:08 PM
Over 24 hours so far with no power here and sub freezing temps. Throwing logs in the fireplace.
Generac will be getting my business very soon.
Them old boys rest easy with their permanent generators. I have a box of electric cords and a "plan" I "think" will work. Thankfully I have only had to keep my gas powered generator in the garage.
Good luck down there. I imagine all kinds of "oh no". Frozen pipes, flooded basements, roads undriveable.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on February 16, 2021, 08:43:26 AM
Stay safe as it seems you still have days of it to go
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on February 16, 2021, 08:48:11 AM
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Maverick on February 16, 2021, 10:14:23 AM
Local news paper indicated that about 1/3 of the wind generator fields in TX are out of operation due to freezing. Of course this is an unusual cold weather situation in TX but at the some time that is when they are needed the most. Rumor has it the nuke, coal and natural gas electric plants are unaffected by the bad weather.
While our house has not been hit the paper also noted that rolling blackouts are scheduled for the area. The locations indicated are a couple real small towns to the west and the main metro area of our town will be hit. We live in the county to the east of town. A big high dollar subdivision just a mile away was hit by a lengthy power outage yesterday. Since there is no natural gas option available everyone is on electric only or maybe propane if they installed a tank on property. Our fall back is our RV with full propane tanks and a small honda gen set should power be out for a protracted time. The fireplace in the house is OK but pretty small and we do not have a stock pile of wood that would last a full day and night.
Only about 3 gas stations of the 2 dozen or so in the area have gas remaining. All but one grocery store is closed along with the drug stores and mini marts. The one grocery store is only open for 6 hours. The home depot, leows and home town hardware stores are all out of propane, gen sets, firewood and other supplies. Half the town streets are closed due to heavy ice and the mostly hilly terrain here. It IS the Hill Country after all.
I watched the weather and we stocked up on food and fuel for the vehicles. I filled up my Goldwing last week when it was still 74 degrees in the day time so I would have over 6 gallons of gas for the gen set if needed. It will go for over 10 hours on a gallon and we did just fine while "dry camping" for a period of time in Tucson during the winter since they had rotating full hookup slots before they expanded the RV camp on DM AFB next to the bone yard.
All in all we aren't terribly worried, just keeping the phones and tablets charges so we can read if power goes out.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 16, 2021, 10:45:22 AM
Its global warming.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: mikeWe9a on February 16, 2021, 12:09:40 PM
Local news paper indicated that about 1/3 of the wind generator fields in TX are out of operation due to freezing. Of course this is an unusual cold weather situation in TX but at the some time that is when they are needed the most. Rumor has it the nuke, coal and natural gas electric plants are unaffected by the bad weather.
While I love to bash on many of the green energy initiatives, a significant number of "conventional" power plants also had issues and shut down due to the cold weather. Apparently, "winterizing" power generation equipment costs money and isn't needed often enough to ensure that power companies in Texas do it. This same scenario happened in 1989 (when there were no windmills) and again in 2011. Texas generally has enough non-green generation capability to supply power even if none of the windmills were operating, though the cold weather also increased demand to well above normal. In this instance, pretty much all forms of power generation are suffering from lower than normal generating capability - coal, gas, and even nuclear. The amount of power generation that is offline is greater than the maximum peak capacity of all wind generated power (which is generally not available in the winter, due to seasonal winds).
Various issues are apparently to blame. Examples reportedly include:
Water cooling systems, especially radiators, froze in the extreme cold, preventing water flow and leading to a loss of cooling to the generating systems. Diesel fuel for generators gelling in the cold, resulting in no fuel flow Low temperatures causing problems with the supply of natural gas to generating stations (most likely causing issues with the pumps)
Mike
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on February 16, 2021, 12:23:26 PM
They call this climate change..
Global warming is used to explain the hot summer days
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 16, 2021, 12:57:43 PM
I have reported you for saying icebergs melting has no effect because of displacement :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on February 16, 2021, 01:16:19 PM
Them old boys rest easy with their permanent generators. I have a box of electric cords and a "plan" I "think" will work. Thankfully I have only had to keep my gas powered generator in the garage.
Good luck down there. I imagine all kinds of "oh no". Frozen pipes, flooded basements, roads undriveable.
We don't do basement to in Texas..... :D
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on February 16, 2021, 01:43:29 PM
I have not had power since 4:30 Am Monday. Our servers are all on generator. We get a little heat from our gas Fire place. And run a cord to the house to power a few things.
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on February 16, 2021, 02:48:54 PM
I have not had power since 4:30 Am Monday. Our servers are all on generator. We get a little heat from our gas Fire place. And run a cord to the house to power a few things.
HiTech
You have a bit of snow and it all falls to pieces.
I blame it on Canada
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on February 16, 2021, 03:19:53 PM
Not sure why something that’s unpredictable is embarrassing :headscratch:
I think it's a reference to some guy from texas.
anyway we have a friend who spent 670k on a house a few miles north of us, i mentioned to her to get a house generator as that place is prone to lose power during high winds. she didn't. was a long summer for her, specially since we had record hit weather.
anyway keep safe guys.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: NatCigg on February 16, 2021, 06:41:29 PM
You have a bit of snow and it all falls to pieces.
I blame it on Canada
Russia!
Russia is responsible for more arctic air mass generation than any other nation. Fact!
:old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Brooke on February 16, 2021, 06:44:45 PM
About 10 years ago, I got a GP8000E Generac generator. I've been very happy with it. I got it online from this place: http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2021, 01:39:13 AM
Why don’t you use oil?
Is there any said fuel source in said region?
One of your politicals got an award for those windmills....does he have electricity?
I have a mouse milk farm and I have treadmills to keep said mice occupied while they are being milked.
I have stored enough power to use my Ronco showtime rotisserie oven for 15 minutes a day :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Mister Fork on February 17, 2021, 09:44:30 AM
You have a bit of snow and it all falls to pieces.
I blame it on Canada
Putz.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2021, 10:06:38 AM
Russia does not have power cuts when it snows :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on February 17, 2021, 10:21:36 AM
I've lived in dallas Since 95.coldest I had seen it was 9 deg . Tuesday morning hit -2 deg. The issue apears to be mostly natural gas supply do to wells not being able to produce in those temps. Obviously wind mills also cut out but that was only a small percentage at the time.
Our power came back on 10:00 pm Tuesday night.
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Eagler on February 17, 2021, 10:30:03 AM
Zach might have a case for kerosene heating.
Had it once in a rental..messy but worked
Would that work in those temps?
Eagler
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: 100Coogn on February 17, 2021, 12:39:55 PM
Install a woodstove. Don't mess with that kerosene.
Coogan
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2021, 12:45:29 PM
Woodstoves cause global warming...fact
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: 100Coogn on February 17, 2021, 12:48:37 PM
I still have the faithful old Kero-Sun out in the garage, patiently waiting to be called forth in time of distress. Real question is whether you can get 1K kerosene anywhere these days.
- oldman
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 17, 2021, 02:55:29 PM
Nothing like sitting outside with wood burning stove drinking cheap bourbon. In the UK we dont drink we get drunk. Its law :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: RotBaron on February 17, 2021, 03:12:37 PM
Maybe those stoves caused the polar vortex this year to extend down to Texas, Alabama and Louisiana.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Frodo on February 17, 2021, 05:02:13 PM
Get a wood pellet stove. After 30 years of cutting wood and using different wood burning systems, I am sold on the pellet stoves. :old:
Not too expensive either if you want just a simple one for a backup. Pretty easy to install with little clearance needed or major construction.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: guncrasher on February 17, 2021, 05:08:34 PM
wow hearing news of some people paying thousands of dollars for electricity during the storm.
semp
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: morfiend on February 17, 2021, 05:15:15 PM
Zach doesnt like Canada cause we do this to his mice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOOs8MaR1YM
:salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on February 17, 2021, 05:43:18 PM
And now a pipe burst.
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: morfiend on February 17, 2021, 05:58:57 PM
Copper or pex?
When it rains it pours. We got a small amount of snow Monday night into Tuesday,only 25cm,that about 10 inches and it was slightly cold minus 5 F. Windchill was the kicker,minus 20F,made clearing the snow not a lot of fun.
:salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on February 17, 2021, 06:07:18 PM
3/4 cooper line,easy to get at in walk in attack. Feed to hot water heater. HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: morfiend on February 17, 2021, 06:36:26 PM
Good that it's easy to get at! :old:
:salute
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on February 18, 2021, 08:58:49 AM
Get a wood pellet stove. After 30 years of cutting wood and using different wood burning systems, I am sold on the pellet stoves. :old:
Not too expensive either if you want just a simple one for a backup. Pretty easy to install with little clearance needed or major construction.
We had a wood stove until we replaced the furnace with a wood/oil furnace, then we got a Pellet stove. They are certainly nice if you don't mind paying for pellets.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Frodo on February 18, 2021, 12:21:12 PM
Had an outside wood furnace and loved it. But I had an unlimited wood resource. So far the last 2 years it has cost me about $650 to heat my place with pellets. The :old: factor is worth it now. :cheers:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Spikes on February 18, 2021, 12:57:38 PM
Had an outside wood furnace and loved it. But I had an unlimited wood resource. So far the last 2 years it has cost me about $650 to heat my place with pellets. The :old: factor is worth it now. :cheers:
Yeah...we had the wood source and just the trees downed in the winter was more than enough for another year's worth of firewood. But the entire summer was spent cutting, splitting, stacking. Once my dad got older we started offsetting it a bit just by buying a half a cord or whatever.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: BoilerDown on February 20, 2021, 03:49:11 PM
Maybe those canadians caused the polar vortex this year to extend down to Texas, Alabama and Louisiana.
We never should of gave them bacon. :old:
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: turt21 on February 21, 2021, 07:33:39 AM
A little taste of what we deal with up here for 6months/yr. But no frozen pipes.
Something that jumps out for me having retired form 34yrs in the Power utility, is the absense of interconnections with neighbouring states. Were connected with 4 other utilities outside the province so we have import options if need be..
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: zack1234 on February 21, 2021, 10:24:39 AM
Commie!
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Chris79 on February 21, 2021, 11:49:09 AM
A little taste of what we deal with up here for 6months/yr. But no frozen pipes.
Something that jumps out for me having retired form 34yrs in the Power utility, is the absense of interconnections with neighbouring states. Were connected with 4 other utilities outside the province so we have import options if need be..
That is incorrect. There are three transmission interchanges that “I know of” between the Texas and the Midwest. One is in the Guymon Oklahoma, one is outside of Texarkana and the other outside of Ruston Louisiana. The problem is that the population base of Texas is far enough removed from the borders of its neighboring states and the interchanges are only 69k so it would be of little use. Also the rotation of the phases don’t properly align which rules out any hot switching. Remember, there it nothing more disingenuous in life as a reporter who has reached its conclusion before the fact.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on February 21, 2021, 01:30:18 PM
A little taste of what we deal with up here for 6months/yr. But no frozen pipes.
Something that jumps out for me having retired form 34yrs in the Power utility, is the absense of interconnections with neighbouring states. Were connected with 4 other utilities outside the province so we have import options if need be..
Texas has imported before. That question is to be answered when some heads roll.
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: hitech on February 21, 2021, 05:39:45 PM
And today it's 74 outside vs -2 a few days back.
HiTech
Title: Re: God bless Texas
Post by: Shuffler on February 21, 2021, 10:01:25 PM