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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Slade on December 22, 2020, 12:19:40 PM
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Hello,
There was a very positive discussion on channel 200 recently on the number of countries. Many felt that changing the game from 3 countries to just 2 would provide more action given the numbers.
If you like this idea please give it a +1.
Thanks,
X15 :salute
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+1+(10^20)
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What is the purpose of having three countries? It's to reduce the unfair one sided fights when the sides are unequal.
When are the sides unequal? All the time or just most of the time?
Two sides work well when the players arrange themselves more or less equally. This is also true of three sides.
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Many? I have seen a few. The fact is that it did not work.
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I only see 2 sides work with auto balancing, never when its dependent on the players to do so.
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I only see 2 sides work with auto balancing, never when its dependent on the players to do so.
Auto balancing is the only true way. Players are what is broke.... LOL
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Minus 1?
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-1 :(
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Auto balancing is the only true way. Players are what is broke.... LOL
This! Logged in the other day. Roughly 130 people on. Roughly 80 bish. They rest split roughly evenly between rooks and knights. Did any bishops switch to balance? Nope. Just started rolling bases. The players are the problem.
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This! Logged in the other day. Roughly 130 people on. Roughly 80 bish. They rest split roughly evenly between rooks and knights. Did any bishops switch to balance? Nope. Just started rolling bases. The players are the problem.
I understand the sentiment but ultimately the player will do what the player is permitted to do and human nature is to take the easy route.
If the game had a flaw that allowed unlimited ammo, the player would use it. If the game had a flaw that allowed them to be undetected, the player would use it. If the game had a flaw that allowed the player to choose a side that had more players and therefore was easier to survive in then the player will use it.
I work in the field of business improvement. We look at the process long before we look at the people. If the process did not allow an undesirable condition then it would not occur. Everyone wants to blame the people for the 3 side imbalance and it has been discussed on these boards for years. It is not a people problem it is a process / system problem.
I suspect that part of the reluctance to go to 2 sides is the fact that making maps in here is an arduous task and making 2 sided maps is simply too much effort.
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Never going to see just two countries. That would involve making all new maps and as there is no "team" at HTC these days there is no one to rebuild maps. On top of that as others have said without "auto balancing" it wouldnt work any better than what we have now.
Personally I think it would be a great help if all the medium sized maps were removed and we only had the small maps in rotation. Saturday night we were on a small map and even with less than 150 players there were a number of fights going on. Heck, Bish held of the attack at A41 for hours even tho they were out numbered.
2 sides will never happen.
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This! Logged in the other day. Roughly 130 people on. Roughly 80 bish. They rest split roughly evenly between rooks and knights. Did any bishops switch to balance? Nope. Just started rolling bases. The players are the problem.
Bring back eny
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If the game had a flaw that allowed the player to choose a side that had more players and therefore was easier to survive in then the player will use it.
I like more targets too so enjoy it when the odds are against us from time-to-time.
That said, recently a squad changed to a side and so overwhelming changed the numbers that they were taking bases nearly unopposed. Without exaggeration an 8-1 mismatch or more. I saw this and changed countries for the first time in over 5 years to help them out.
:salute
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That said, recently a squad changed to a side and so overwhelming changed the numbers that they were taking bases nearly unopposed. Without exaggeration an 8-1 mismatch or more. I saw this and changed countries for the first time in over 5 years to help them out.
Sounds like what killed the Mid-war arena. Good for you, changing sides.
- oldman
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I like more targets too so enjoy it when the odds are against us from time-to-time.
That said, recently a squad changed to a side and so overwhelming changed the numbers that they were taking bases nearly unopposed. Without exaggeration an 8-1 mismatch or more. I saw this and changed countries for the first time in over 5 years to help them out.
:salute
X15 - glad you did. Maybe with ENY you would have found some p40 v p40 fights!
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Thanks sirs. :salute
Maybe with ENY you would have found some p40 v p40 fights!
Woohoo! :rock
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I think either way the maps are too large and have too many bases for the numbers of ppl online and engaged
Need more ppl at each base fight to increase the intensity
Otherwise you spend way more time flying to and sometimes from fights compared to time those fights last
Eagler
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It is all about controlling the people because the people are unable.
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Shrink the maps 15 per cent
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Shrink the maps 15 per cent
You think anybody would even notice a map being 230 miles wide instead of 250 miles?
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Never going to see just two countries. That would involve making all new maps and as there is no "team" at HTC these days there is no one to rebuild maps. On top of that as others have said without "auto balancing" it wouldnt work any better than what we have now.
Personally I think it would be a great help if all the medium sized maps were removed and we only had the small maps in rotation. Saturday night we were on a small map and even with less than 150 players there were a number of fights going on. Heck, Bish held of the attack at A41 for hours even tho they were out numbered.
2 sides will never happen.
Why do all that? Just disable one country. There you have it.
Coogan
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Why do all that? Just disable one country. There you have it.
Coogan
Why do that? Just play on two sides.
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Why do that? Just play on two sides.
There you are.... just play on two sides.
I am telling you.... people are broke.
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Having spent some time away from the game and poking my head in a couple of times this week,
a 2 sided war would guarantee at least one "hectic" battle area meaning that the players that want to fight and experience AH in all it's glory (MMO) can always rock up at "the fight" without having to switch or go looking for it.
Unfortunately somewhere along the line people adopted the path of least resistance as the preferred choice of battle.
You wouldn't need to alter maps because there would always be a fight and let ENY continue to balance the odds.
It was weird to see Joker and friends switch from Bish to have some flights with us so IF he can bring himself to change countries anyone can. Let's just rename the Teams something else, gender neutral and see how it goes. Doesn't hurt to try it for a month or two right?
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Doesn't hurt to try it for a month or two right?
+1 Bruv
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There you are.... just play on two sides.
I am telling you.... people are broke.
:rofl Yes they are..
Coogan
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Why do that? Just play on two sides.
We often have a 2v1 "two sides". There ya go! :D
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Why dont we simply try two countries for one day of the week for one month then put it to a vote?
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Why dont we simply try two countries for one day of the week for one month then put it to a vote?
Who is gonna recode the game from the ground up to achieve your wish? That person has the only valid 'vote.' :old:
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Why dont we simply try two countries for one day of the week for one month then put it to a vote?
If people decide to to it, they will.
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Who is gonna recode the game from the ground up to achieve your wish? That person has the only valid 'vote.'
Yes it will take code changes. In my day job (https://www.oracledba.help/) I write a lot of code. I trust AH are adept at coding and have written the code to be flexible and scalable.
Maybe the people that play the game should have the ability to influence the game within reason. Especially if a change makes the game better for the paying users.
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Yes it will take code changes. In my day job (https://www.oracledba.help/) I write a lot of code. I trust AH are adept at coding and have written the code to be flexible and scalable.
That may well be, but it won't supercede the fact that the guy that built it has said in the past that the 3 sided war is integral to how the MA part of the code was done. Now I suppose you'll regale us with how he should've done it? I've never seen that go well for people in the past, but maybe you're the one.
Wiley.
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Maybe the people that play the game should have the ability to influence the game within reason.
Maybe this wasn't an example of that. :old:
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That may well be, but it won't supercede the fact that the guy that built it has said in the past that the 3 sided war is integral to how the MA part of the code was done.
I did not see his forum post on that. I stand corrected then. :salute
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Just need more players...
I was showing two friends today the game. One is very interested.