Untreated Afib except for a blood thinner...that’s not what patients I’ve seen and their doctors do with it. Afib usually presents with high blood pressure (called controlled hypertension when meds are used)
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Eagler on December 28, 2020, 12:15:12 PM
It will be legal issues but the media will call it health issues when they have sleepy creepy corrupt joe step down and put the crack pot sleezeball in his place and call it historic
Eagler
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: CptTrips on December 28, 2020, 12:44:36 PM
Poor bitter, angry little Trumpkins.
It's kinda amusing to watch them squirm, helpless and impotent, against inevitability.
<Snicker>
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: MiloMorai on December 28, 2020, 12:45:06 PM
The Orange Clown certainly has mental health issues.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Arlo on December 28, 2020, 12:55:17 PM
Which brings up the question of which presents more of a danger to the nation, visible mental health deterioration that certainly has immediate negative consequence as seen with Trump or a mild physical issue with potential for complications later on as worried over with Biden.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: RotBaron on December 28, 2020, 01:00:46 PM
Which brings up the question of which presents more of a danger to the nation, visible mental health deterioration that certainly has immediate negative consequence as seen with Trump or a mild physical issue with potential for complications later on as worried over with Biden.
Afib, surgery for brain bleeds, etc. are not “mild physical issue”
Afib without treatment as stated in the NPR article puts him at 5x higher chance of having a stroke. It can strike at any time!
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: CptTrips on December 28, 2020, 01:02:59 PM
Which brings up the question of which presents more of a danger to the nation, visible mental health deterioration that certainly has immediate negative consequence as seen with Trump or a mild physical issue with potential for complications later on as worried over with Biden.
In any case, Kamala stands ready.
<Snicker>
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Firetech on December 28, 2020, 01:09:35 PM
Do you really think, even as President Elect, that Biden is without treatment?
Do you not trust NPR’s article and the statements made in the release by his physician’s group?
As stated here:
“That's according to Biden's campaign, which released a medical report prepared by his physician, Kevin C. O'Connor. O'Connor is director of executive medicine at the GW Medical Faculty Associates, a medical group affiliated with the George Washington University School of Medicine. He was also Biden's primary care doctor when he served as vice president.
The physician did note that Biden has an irregular heartbeat, known as nonvalvular atrial fibrillation. The report says Biden has not required any medication or other treatment for this heart condition. He does take a blood thinner, because this condition, also called AFib, can increase the risk of blood clots.”
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Arlo on December 28, 2020, 01:44:20 PM
If the article, backed by Biden's physician, states that he does not require medication or treatment then why shouldn't I trust it? Nevertheless, I'm still confident he has treatment available and should it be deemed necessary he will receive it. Do you really believe otherwise or is this a just drama thread you started?
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: RotBaron on December 28, 2020, 02:01:34 PM
Concern about our nation’s leaders health is drama??
:rolleyes:
Might want to do some reading up on Afib.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: RotBaron on December 28, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
I know/known many with Afib. A super high stress job is not usually what the doctor orders...
Of course if it’s back the same ways of the Obama administration he’ll spend more time trying to play rock star/celebrity than serving the population
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: CptTrips on December 28, 2020, 02:21:15 PM
The self-dealing pardons are a sign that even Moscow-Donny knows he is heading for the door.
The only thing left is to decide which non-extradition treaty country to run off too, while watching his properties and assets get dismantled by the IRS. A self-pardon won't protect him against tax penalties or state prosecutions.
<Snicker>
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 28, 2020, 03:02:15 PM
Biden said he will get a virus and give his presidency to 1% Harris. Iffff Biden becomes president, this is exactly what is going to happen. They always tell you what they are going to do. Just like when he stated they had the largest voter fraud network in history. Its obvious they did. Its part of their karma rule. It's called predictive programing.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: CptTrips on December 28, 2020, 03:04:26 PM
I know/known many with Afib. A super high stress job is not usually what the doctor orders...
Of course if it’s back the same ways of the Obama administration he’ll spend more time trying to play rock star/celebrity than serving the population
Are you a doctor? Biden's condition is going untreated, his doctors state that his current condition does not require medical treatment. As Arlo pointed out, when his condition requires treatment, his doctors will do so.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 28, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
Biden said he will get a virus and give his presidency to 1% Harris. Iffff Biden becomes president, this is exactly what is going to happen. They always tell you what they are going to do. Just like when he stated they had the largest voter fraud network in history. Its obvious they did. Its part of their karma rule. It's called predictive programing.
Too late my little mental midget, Biden is your next president. Get used to it but I have a feeling your shrink is gonna have to up your meds.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 28, 2020, 03:56:08 PM
Are you a doctor? Biden's condition is going untreated, his doctors state that his current condition does not require medical treatment. As Arlo pointed out, when his condition requires treatment, his doctors will do so.
Nope not a doctor. I know a cardiologist very well though and another an acquaintance.
I am a Registered nurse and worked ER and now Observation and dealt with all of the medications prescribed for Afib. I’ve talked to the cardiology Drs a lot about arrhythmias. Haven’t seen one yet that doesn’t prescribe beta/Ca Channel blocker, etc for Afib.
So either his Afib is untreated minus the blood thinner or his Drs didn’t tell the truth. If it is untreated then that would be great if he had a stroke in the middle of a crisis...
Ughh. As I already stated - thread wasn’t to be dramatic - was to point out there are real known health issues with him. D if this is who you chose then you should be great with the consequences.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: MiloMorai on December 28, 2020, 05:01:57 PM
The Orange Clown has trouble drinking from a glass and walking down a slight inclined ramp. Biden runs out on stage.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Firetech on December 28, 2020, 06:06:34 PM
The deflection and redirection of all things orange is still amazing.. worried about who looks 1000% more fit then the fat orange pedo we have now.. grasping at straws kids..
Biden is your next president. Let's move on
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: RotBaron on December 28, 2020, 10:22:44 PM
I’ve had numerous pts with it and I know many that have it. My Great Aunt just underwent a cardioversion to restore sinus rhythm on the 23rd. Thankfully it worked, it doesn’t always.
Catheter ablation is one of the best solutions if the electrophysiologist can burn the area that causes it.
What we don’t know is how Biden has had it treated all these years. Reportedly his came on in the late 80’s.
What we do know is that it can come back and having the most stressful job in the world isn’t a great idea for A-fib. Assuming he gets there...
If you’ve ever had it or anything similar to you’re heart severely pounding for no apparent reason it’s terrifying and debilitating. Stilll think he’s cut out for the job with this consideration?
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Ack-Ack on December 28, 2020, 10:28:42 PM
You are really in no place to make judgements on his medical condition. You are not a doctor nor have you studied his medical records or examined him. I trust his doctors are better trained than you are a know what they are doing in regards to his healthcare.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: RotBaron on December 28, 2020, 10:40:32 PM
In any different place than all the Orange man bad that judged Trump’s health?
I at least have worked in cardiology as a nurse and spent years in nursing school, prerequisites and clinicals working with patients with cardiovascular conditions like this.
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: CptTrips on December 28, 2020, 10:58:54 PM
You are really in no place to make judgements on his medical condition. You are not a doctor nor have you studied his medical records or examined him. I trust his doctors are better trained than you are a know what they are doing in regards to his healthcare.
Thank you, nurse. I'm not worried about Biden's physical health as much as I am about Trump's mental health or criminality. There you go. A fair and decent response. :)
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: FESS67 on December 29, 2020, 08:05:34 PM
What is sad to see and sad to have to post about again is the inability for most of you to debate an issue without it degenerating into childish name calling and personal insults. It seems neither Democrats nor Republicans are able to rise above the mire and actually have an adult conversation.
Biden is not the first president to have a health condition and won't be the last. The real question is will it have an impact on his ability to carry out his duties? At the moment the answer is no, it will not. If that changes then decisions will need to be made but there are policies, procedures and processes to deal with that.
So what is the real problem?
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: RotBaron on December 29, 2020, 08:05:47 PM
Thank you, nurse. I'm not worried about Biden's physical health as much as I am about Trump's mental health or criminality. There you go. A fair and decent response. :)
Was talking and quoting Trips.
Even though you and I disagree you are usually much more respectful of other people and their points of view. Not sure why you had to include nurse in your response when Trips is the one denigrating male nurses...
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: CptTrips on December 29, 2020, 08:10:51 PM
The real problem is simple. They didn't get the election result they wanted.
Eagler, Toad, RottingBaron, and DemonSlayer have been calling people Marxists Socialists, and Communist clowns for weeks now. Even before the rules change.
They'll get no mercy from me, no matter how much they whine.
Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind.
Title: Re: Biden’s health
Post by: Eagler on December 30, 2020, 07:53:49 AM
The corruption I see started way before the election
The election fraud is just the frosting on the cake.. in your facei
I do not care which side is corrupt as I want both sides investigated as I think it is not all on the left
Funny how you think I am for trump because I am against gov corruption
You lefties on the other hand want victory at all costs regardless what it does to the soul of the country