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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: MiloMorai on February 18, 2021, 07:33:53 AM
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Leave that tap slightly open so there is water flowing thru the pipes.
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Leave that tap slightly open so there is water flowing thru the pipes.
No power.... no water. Drained the lines and still have a broken hot and cold pipe. Water sat in a low place.
When a group like ERCOT, through their ignorance, harms folks.... they should be held accountable.
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And how often exactly does it happen over there that the temperatures go below freezing point?
We have a fixed compensation chart for electricity outages, starting from 12 hrs.
As the forecast told yesterday that the temperature would go down to -35 C/ -31 F, my wife scheduled the dishwasher to run three hours past sleeping time. No frozen pipes so far this winter.
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When a group like ERCOT, through their ignorance, harms folks.... they should be held accountable.
Ahh the joys of privatization.
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When a group like ERCOT, through their ignorance, harms folks.... they should be held accountable.
Ahh the joys of privatization.
As a Non-Profit Corporation with a board of directors, they *should* be able to face legal action for negligence.
I wonder what recourse Venezuelans and other countries do that have state controlled energy providers and have week/month long black outs? :headscratch:
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And how often exactly does it happen over there that the temperatures go below freezing point?
"Over there" is a big place. If you are referring to the US there are plenty of places, I'm so lucky to live in one of them, that have been going below freezing for weeks without issue and it is normal. Current Texas weather is very far from normal. But there are more issues contributing than just weather alone.
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"Over there" is a big place. If you are referring to the US there are plenty of places, I'm so lucky to live in one of them, that have been going below freezing for weeks without issue and it is normal. Current Texas weather is very far from normal. But there are more issues contributing than just weather alone.
Sorry for the inaccuracy. I know that there's places in the US where the weather is like here (favoured by Finnish immigrants) and I know that there's places where the weather can be colder or hotter. In this thread I was referring to Texas as it seems to be the place where the biggest issues currently are.
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No problem, just wanted to make sure you didn't think we are all as soft as Texans. :salute
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No problem, just wanted to make sure you didn't think we are all as soft as Texans. :salute
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My understanding of the situation is that while ERCOT oversees and coordinates the various utility companies, they don't have the authority to order certain things, such as winterizing production facilities - they make recommendations (and have made winterization recommendations since similar occurrences in 1988 and 2011) but can't force the utility companies to carry them out.
If that is indeed correct, then it would be the individual utilities that would be responsible, though the legislature might wish to give ERCOT more authority in some areas.
Mike
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I’m kind of laying this one at the feet of those who set out your building standards for construction. If you’re busting pipes, then they should’ve been insulated to begin with. Especially new construction when it’s 1/10 of 1% of the total job cost for R20 and pipes.
Sorry this isn’t a once in 100 year event because I’ve been to Houston and south Louisiana when there was snow on the ground and I was sitting outside on the runway with a radio.
If you’re cheap once you pay twice and it’s no different than anything else in life
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Good point. It does work up north, But our pipes are 4 to 5 feet below ground. I remember living in Florida, there was no such thing as a cold glass of water from the faucet in the summer. Hopefully this cold snap won't last very long. If you are trying to stay warm remember, carbon monoxide will kill you, make sure you have proper ventilation when using heaters. God Speed Texas.
Hove from Maine
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And how often exactly does it happen over there that the temperatures go below freezing point?
We have a fixed compensation chart for electricity outages, starting from 12 hrs.
As the forecast told yesterday that the temperature would go down to -35 C/ -31 F, my wife scheduled the dishwasher to run three hours past sleeping time. No frozen pipes so far this winter.
The current problem for millions of people here is extreme cold with no power for heat.
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Generator, to power surge board, to power cord spliced into furnace power. :uhoh
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Good point. It does work up north, But our pipes are 4 to 5 feet below ground. I remember living in Florida, there was no such thing as a cold glass of water from the faucet in the summer. Hopefully this cold snap won't last very long. If you are trying to stay warm remember, carbon monoxide will kill you, make sure you have proper ventilation when using heaters. God Speed Texas.
Hove from Maine
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As a Non-Profit Corporation with a board of directors, they *should* be able to face legal action for negligence.
I wonder what recourse Venezuelans and other countries do that have state controlled energy providers and have week/month long black outs? :headscratch:
Probably in everyone's best interest to take this one on the chin and work on make changes so this does not happen in the future. Like increasing capacity.
Very political topic here, blame can be spread around.
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I have personally looked into a backup natural gas generator, but for like everyone else cant afford it right now
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My family did fine during the water and power outage but then again growing up on a farm I think we are more prepared then most.
You can get a propane heater for less then $100 at tractor supply at 750 watt inverter that you can run off your car to run most things at Walmart for $49 and some aqua-tainers. In addition to that we have a bi fuel generator which we never even had to go to as the inverter was enough.
Best quote of the whole incident was when my 6 year old daughter asked me: "Daddy, is the power on or off?" as she was watching a dvd with lamps in the house on, running off the inverter, house heated by propane heater and wife cooking in the kitchen on a camp type stove. We did run low on water as I only filled one of the aqua-tainers but we had bottled water as a backup that we never had to use.
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I’m kind of laying this one at the feet of those who set out your building standards for construction. If you’re busting pipes, then they should’ve been insulated to begin with. Especially new construction when it’s 1/10 of 1% of the total job cost for R20 and pipes.
Sorry this isn’t a once in 100 year event because I’ve been to Houston and south Louisiana when there was snow on the ground and I was sitting outside on the runway with a radio.
If you’re cheap once you pay twice and it’s no different than anything else in life
Insulation works to keep warm or cold in. If it is freezing and you have insulation on a water pipe that has no water flow.... it will freeze. That is if it is freezing long enough.
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No problem, just wanted to make sure you didn't think we are all as soft as Texans. :salute
I had to laugh at this statement coming from someone from new york.
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I had to laugh at this statement coming from someone from new york.
I think you're confusing NY with NYC. I'll take WNY toughness to Texans every time.
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I think you're confusing NY with NYC. I'll take WNY toughness to Texans every time.
Good luck with that. :aok
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I think you're confusing NY with NYC. I'll take WNY toughness to Texans every time.
:aok Reminds me of our 70’ of snow. Can’t recall the last day above 30 degrees.
Dealt with a frozen heating pipe a few years ago, not fun.
Second WNY reference I saw today, wonder how large the WNY contingent is?
Dad built this house in the mid 1950s, hard to go back and insulate all those pipes.
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I think you're confusing NY with NYC. I'll take WNY toughness to Texans every time.
Us CNYers need some love too! :rock
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Us CNYers need some love too! :rock
As long as you're this side of the Hudson. :salute
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Dad built this house in the mid 1950s, hard to go back and insulate all those pipes.
My house was built in the 1890s. It is damn cold!! :old:
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My house was built in the 1890s. It is damn cold!! :old:
Uncles house was from 1850s or so it was told and that place got cold too. Really have to work to get those places insulated well.
Along with politics and religion, upstate vs down there probably shouldn’t be discussed too much :rofl
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Uncles house was from 1850s or so it was told and that place got cold too. Really have to work to get those places insulated well.
Along with politics and religion, upstate vs down there probably shouldn’t be discussed too much :rofl
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LOL I am fully aware that not everyone in that state is as looney as those in NYC.
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I think you're confusing NY with NYC. I'll take WNY toughness to Texans every time.
See little round top battle of Gettysburg. New York reinforced Michigan to save the hill from Texas.
:salute
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See little round top battle of Gettysburg. New York reinforced Michigan to save the hill from Texas.
:salute
It took two well equipped states.... :aok
Back when Hurricane Harvey hit, the news was following a 16 year old young man who was using his john boat to rescue folks who were stranded in their homes and cars. The news man said, "you know, you are a hero". The young man told him, "no... I'm just a Texan".
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See little round top battle of Gettysburg. New York reinforced Michigan to save the hill from Texas.
:salute
There's a lot more to that story than one sentence, but it checks out. :rofl
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I will never understand why a Texan's pride of being from Texas verges on nationalism.
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I will never understand why a Texan's pride of being from Texas verges on nationalism.
Because it is home.
Also, you are injecting your own bias that allows you to easily compartmentalize one stereotype into another.
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I will never understand why a Texan's pride of being from Texas verges on nationalism.
I'm proud to be Californian and understand why Texans are proud to be from Tejas.
nothing to do with anything else.
semp
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I will never understand why a Texan's pride of being from Texas verges on nationalism.
Close.... Texas was independent at one time.
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We stop pipes freezing by putting the heating up.
I don’t know how they stop pipes freezing in third world areas like Vietnam, Poland or Texas :old:
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I will never understand why a Texan's pride of being from Texas verges on nationalism.
Nationalism is a myth in the 21st.
People are too busy shaving their spuds and talking about thier emotions.
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Close.... Texas was independent at one time.
Really?
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Really?
For one engulfed in history, it is not hard to see the benefit of maintaining as much independence from government as possible. Texas has a wealth of resources and prime geography to act as it does.
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Really?
Republic of Texas 1836
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Because it is home.
Also, you are injecting your own bias that allows you to easily compartmentalize one stereotype into another.
True. I love my state (NC) and will argue that it is the best in the union for a plethora of reasons. But my pride in being a North Carolinian does not look like fanaticism as it does from Texans. Never does my love of state get confused with localized patriotism which would trump national patriotism. It is a very Texas thing that I suppose non-Texans see and do not understand that Texans do not see, but understand. Someone should write a Sociological essay on the matter :old:.
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Our stores are filled with stuff labeled that it's from Texas. I buy it before I buy stuff labeled from Texas before some other state because I live here.
Somehow in today's "PC" world I'm sure that makes me thisaphobe or thataphoe or something worse! Lolz
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You speak for North Carolinian?
Your certainty and self opinionated Weltanschauung is self evident
Trump? He has gone now, get over it, Don Lemon, Kimmel and the rest of your celebrity idols need to do the same.
If i were in charge i would make you Gauleiter of Iceland
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You speak for North Carolinian?
Your certainty and self opinionated Weltanschauung is self evident
Trump? He has gone now, get over it, Don Lemon, Kimmel and the rest of your celebrity idols need to do the same.
If i were in charge i would make you Gauleiter of Iceland
I do not speak North Carolinian. My worldview is biased, guilty, but isn't everyone's? I used trump as a verb here, not a noun.
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Not allowing the full capacity and output of energy during times of crisis is a crime against humanity.
"Dark Winter"... always be prepping.
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True. I love my state (NC) and will argue that it is the best in the union for a plethora of reasons. But my pride in being a North Carolinian does not look like fanaticism as it does from Texans. Never does my love of state get confused with localized patriotism which would trump national patriotism. It is a very Texas thing that I suppose non-Texans see and do not understand that Texans do not see, but understand. Someone should write a Sociological essay on the matter :old:.
Stronger marketing campaign. (Meaning it not so easy to judge nuances of patriotism.)
Additionally the culture represents a simple and desirable humanistic quality prided on self sufficiency and happiness.
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I will never understand why a Texan's pride of being from Texas verges on nationalism.
Many of my Texan relatives are quite proud of being from Texas...their home as was replied to you. However, they’d laugh at your statement of verging on “nationalism.” America first to them...
Almost everyone I’ve met from NY thinks the world revolves around it and that it’s the greatest place on earth. See I ❤️ NY T-shirts?
A close friend of mine was living in Thailand during the attacks on 9/11, he said in Thailand it was just a “blip on the radar” as news.
In College at CSU - Ft. Collins I had made many friends from Chicago. There were so many of them they basically formed a click. They often spoke about how great Chicago is. I asked a few of them if it’s that great why did they come to Colorado? Either not much of a reply or “to party and ski.” Most of them stayed in Colorado :headscratch:
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It's like the million that came to Texas from California and all they want to do is tell us how great it is there.
I ask them why they don't move back. Same kinda answer. :headscratch:
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It's like the million that came to Texas from California and all they want to do is tell us how great it is there.
I ask them why they don't move back. Same kinda answer. :headscratch:
They'll turn Texas into California for you.
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They'll turn Texas into California for you.
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