Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Frodo on May 13, 2021, 07:18:37 AM
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https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/plane-collision-crash-cherry-creek-reservoir/73-79563af1-af84-482c-b3f8-f9b40d9378eb
Not a headline you see very often.
The larger plane was lucky he was at 6K and on approach already!
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Cirrus aircraft are equipped with the Cirrus Airframe Parachute System, or CAPS. It consists of a ballistic rocket-fired parachute.
"It is the only general aviation manufacturer that includes this standard in every single single engine airplane," Mincher said.
Huh. TIL.
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Good thing there were no passengers
Eagler
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Amazing. :eek:
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Amazing that the Metro didn’t come apart.
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Amazing that the Metro didn’t come apart.
Yeah them things land pretty hot. Use to fly one every week to and from the Pump Station 10 crew change out of Delta Junction, AK.
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Yeah them things land pretty hot. Use to fly one every week to and from the Pump Station 10 crew change out of Delta Junction, AK.
What’s the normal approach speed?
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Here is a video, including radio chatter at time of the collision. No actual video in flight just simulation. Interesting tower was not aware of the potential conflict until after impact in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xQSbTrmuko
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Amazing that the Metro didn’t come apart.
I thought the same thing and looks to be tail damage too. Reports here said he was 3 miles out and 6K. So he was fairly slow but wow.
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Was the air traffic controller from breaking bad on duty?
Eagler
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What’s the normal approach speed?
IIRC the pilots said it touched down at 120 or 130 knots. I could be wrong about the exact speed, it was really squirrely in cross wind landings.
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What’s the normal approach speed?
Looks like 115 KIAS.
https://www.skybrary.aero/index.php/SW4
Pretty fast. I thought 95 KIAS was fast in the old Saratoga.
*ahem* Of course, that is not to say it is fast for, say, an F4 or an F-106...
- oldman
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Amazing that the Metro didn’t come apart.
I thought the same thing. That's a big chunk missing from the fuse.
:salute
Sik
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I saw this right after it was posted on YouTube. ATC was very involved and called traffic. It seems the metro saw the lead plane coming on final but not the trail, which I believe ATC called. I would have to go back and watch a few more times. Confusing even sitting on the ground.
Surprised ATC would have anything close at near same alt.
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And insurance just got harder to acquire.
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Surprised ATC would have anything close at near same alt.
Fairly common and safe, as long as no one overshoots final. :bolt:
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Fairly common and safe, as long as no one overshoots final. :bolt:
Crossing though? I don't believe the smaller plane was entering the pattern. The one they were talking to was the lead small plane. At least that is what I understood.
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The Cirrus 6DJ entered the pattern and was asked to identify the Cessna ahead that was landing on 17R. The Cirrus acknowledged he had the Cessna in sight and was then told by the tower to follow the Cessna and was cleared to land on 17R.
Key Lime was landing 17L. The Cirrus overshot final to 17R & 17L.
The Cirrus is a great airplane, and has a very sophisticated avionics suite. One issue that pops up again and again with owners and renters in this plane is that there is a tendency to keep your head down looking at all the pretty bells & whistles.
In the pattern especially one with parallel operations it’s imperative to maintain situational awareness and visual separation from other aircraft. All the Bells & Whistles in the world do not relieve the pilot of their responsibility to “See & Avoid”.
The Klapmeier brothers who developed the plane knew that owners are there own worst enemy and added the BRS parachute in there for added measure.
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https://kdvr.com/news/local/ntsb-releases-report-following-midair-plane-collision-in-colorado/
:cheers:
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That report graphic pretty much says it all. The Cirrus overshot the runway pattern and flew into the other aircrafts path to landing.