General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: CptTrips on June 16, 2021, 12:50:04 PM
Title: Battlefield 2042
Post by: CptTrips on June 16, 2021, 12:50:04 PM
In other gaming news...
I thought this was interesting.
BF2042 will support 128 player servers. That's pretty impressive for that type of multiplayer game. There is a much higher state update load for a FPS compared to a flightsim. 128 FPS players in a dense map is impressive.
They are also adding AI bots to the multiplayer servers so that there are always max targets. As real players login, they replace the bots on each side. So you are never wandering around looking for something to shoot at. But where there are enough players, they'll all be human. That's important for some server regions that have a hard time filling enough players to start a game.
Oh, and wing-suits look like fun. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-VT5hOciI
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: svaalbar on June 17, 2021, 07:47:08 AM
Please be better than BFV. Please be better than BFV. Please be better than BFV.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: Spikes on June 17, 2021, 07:50:40 AM
BF2042 will support 128 player servers. That's pretty impressive for that type of multiplayer game. There is a much higher state update load for a FPS compared to a flightsim. 128 FPS players in a dense map is impressive.
They are also adding AI bots to the multiplayer servers so that there are always max targets. As real players login, they replace the bots on each side. So you are never wandering around looking for something to shoot at. But where there are enough players, they'll all be human. That's important for some server regions that have a hard time filling enough players to start a game.
Oh, and wing-suits look like fun. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc-VT5hOciI
It was really a shame way back when, when COD started porting their games from console to PC. We went from 50 or 64 player servers down to 12.
My favorite BF was BF BC2 I think. BF2 being a close second.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: CptTrips on June 17, 2021, 08:30:16 AM
The AI fill in for missing human players is something AH should look into IMO
Eagler
Meh, fighting AI is ghey. Match play is good for that.
In terms of Battlefield. Prolly won't make to much of a difference. With 128 players. It's gonna be a lot of camping and getting snipes from every angle. Gonna be pretty tough.
I actually really liked BFBC2 as well. Was wondering if there was still a player base for that to fill up arenas.
I just got the package of BF4, BF5, and BF1. BF5 is my favorite one so far. Only thing I hate about these games is you shoot 2-3 burst of rounds in em, they don't die. You hit them first and they don't die, but then pull and shoot you and you die. It's something that just frustrates the crap outa me.
I wonder what 2042 is gonna be. To me, it looks a lot like BF4. I thought BF4 was cool, just got tired of the maps. I would expect 2042 to have much cooler new style rifles and guns. Along with new vehicles that are advanced. To me, i didn't really see that in the trailer. I'm curious how "futuristic" it's gonna be.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: Devil 505 on June 17, 2021, 11:03:20 AM
Seeing how meh they handled WW1 and WW2 recently, I'm not at all interested in their version of a future war.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: CptTrips on June 17, 2021, 11:30:55 AM
Seeing how meh they handled WW1 and WW2 recently, I'm not at all interested in their version of a future war.
I thought BF1 was ok. A little on the lighter side but still fun.
BF5 was the first BF I just didn't like. I won't pre-order the next one. ;)
But 2042 is the same LA studio that did BF4, not the Euro team that did BF5. So I'm hoping for some improvement.
I still play BF4 regularly. Paid $50 back in 2014 and have played it ever since. Thousands of hours. Servers are still full. I love just playing Golmud 24/7 server. :rofl
I usually don't like futuristic stuff, but this is "near future" so not lazer guns. Hopefully they'll do the month open beta before release. I'll reserve final judgment until I've tried it.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: CptTrips on June 17, 2021, 11:36:11 AM
I just got the package of BF4, BF5, and BF1. BF5 is my favorite one so far. Only thing I hate about these games is you shoot 2-3 burst of rounds in em, they don't die. You hit them first and they don't die, but then pull and shoot you and you die. It's something that just frustrates the crap outa me.
You going for the head shot? Can't just spray and pray into the body. Also depending on the map and class, I prefer ACWR for the high rate of fire. You really need to manage recoil though to keep your pattern tight.
If your new, go to the test range on BF4 and practice with different guns at the firing range and practice pulling down to overcome recoil.
If you want to play BF4 sometime, we can link up. I have a teamspeak server.
(or BF1, but I prefer BF4. BF5 isn't my thing. ;))
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: CptTrips on June 17, 2021, 11:54:30 AM
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 17, 2021, 08:35:52 PM
You going for the head shot? Can't just spray and pray into the body. Also depending on the map and class, I prefer ACWR for the high rate of fire. You really need to manage recoil though to keep your pattern tight.
If your new, go to the test range on BF4 and practice with different guns at the firing range and practice pulling down to overcome recoil.
If you want to play BF4 sometime, we can link up. I have a teamspeak server.
(or BF1, but I prefer BF4. BF5 isn't my thing. ;))
Well the other day on 5 I heard 2 tin can sounds on 1 guy, which I thought meant headshot. After hitting first like that, he pulls up in shoots and gets me with having 1% left... I get the same crap in Halo, there is something about players who are good that makes them last longer when getting damaged. That being said, I'm a super noob and don't have all the bells and whistles yet. I might hop on 4 for a bit this weekend.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: LCADolby on June 18, 2021, 03:50:32 AM
Ever since Dice was bought out by EA they've produced ever more disappointing products.. Bad Company was so great. Who in their right mind plays online multiplayer games to waste their time and ammo on AI? Think I'll stick to ARMA until Dice get closed down and (re)start up, new name in hand, free of EA's corporate shackles.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: svaalbar on June 18, 2021, 05:30:38 AM
Meh, fighting AI is ghey. Match play is good for that.
In terms of Battlefield. Prolly won't make to much of a difference. With 128 players. It's gonna be a lot of camping and getting snipes from every angle. Gonna be pretty tough.
I actually really liked BFBC2 as well. Was wondering if there was still a player base for that to fill up arenas.
I just got the package of BF4, BF5, and BF1. BF5 is my favorite one so far. Only thing I hate about these games is you shoot 2-3 burst of rounds in em, they don't die. You hit them first and they don't die, but then pull and shoot you and you die. It's something that just frustrates the crap outa me.
I wonder what 2042 is gonna be. To me, it looks a lot like BF4. I thought BF4 was cool, just got tired of the maps. I would expect 2042 to have much cooler new style rifles and guns. Along with new vehicles that are advanced. To me, i didn't really see that in the trailer. I'm curious how "futuristic" it's gonna be.
Have you played either titanfall?
Also what is with your pointless conjecture about the future? All FPS games have sniping noobs in them, a tale as old as time.
I'd tell you to read Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. But you won't.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: DmonSlyr on June 18, 2021, 03:09:44 PM
Pointless conjecture about the future? Not sure what you are implying here.
Play titanfall 2 bro. It has fun ai. Probably no one plays it but you can get a similar idea
Edit: I'm a really lazy typer on the phone. Anyways what I want to say is that people camp in FPS games since the 90s, there are sniper try hards since the 90s, there are run and gunners, etc
In BF I like being a medic and recon. But an aggressive recon that gets an insane score. like this Dasz guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pmyDhT8Jrk
Anyways if you got some free time - do check out Titanfall 2 - as it has AI "grunts" you use to earn points for your titan. You also fight other players too.
Its a really fun game mechanic. Titanfall 2 was a blast, and the story campaign is really good too.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: CptTrips on June 18, 2021, 05:31:38 PM
The AI fill in for missing human players is something AH should look into IMO
Eagler
It will be interesting to see how it works out. I will reserve judgment until I’ve had a chance to play it.
Currently when you log into a server it can be configured in two ways, if there are not enough players they can either prevent the game from starting until more players join (which is kind of annoying for someone who only has a limited amount of time to play); or allow the game to start immediately with insufficient number of players and then it becomes a jogging simulator as you run and run and run and run around looking for someone in an empty map. Kind of like flying around on auto pilot looking for a fight.
The new design will be to start the game immediately and backfill with AI players until a sufficient number of human players arrive at which point the AI are replaced by human players. That way someone could just at least spawn and run around and kill AI while they’re waiting for people. The alternative is to sit in the lobby waiting to be allowed to play or running around a deserted arena killing time shooting at lamp posts and truck tires.
Personally I suspect the AI players will be the better trade-off until live players arrive. However, I assume that will be a server configuration, so I assume they will be custom servers that I have that disabled. The people that prefer holding in the lobby waiting for more players, or running around an empty world shooting at rocks on the ground can find a server to accommodate them.
No doubt, A server fully populated by humans is far superior. Until that number of players show up, I prefer to at least be allowed to start and shoot up some AI rather than sit in the lobby blocked from playing, or spawn into an empty ghost town and run around with nothing to do. To each their own.
Title: Re: Battlefield 2042
Post by: BoilerDown on June 18, 2021, 07:36:44 PM