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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: lunaticfringe on February 12, 2022, 02:49:46 PM
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:old: this needs to end,1 minute this guys on your side, the next minute he is the enemy, he/she knows where your ships are-he/knows whats going on at your bases, they know where you are attacking.
auto side switching is a legal way to cheat. and it needs to end. if a pilot or gv'r can't get their perks the normal way then maybe they shouldn't play
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a legal way to cheat. can't get their perks the normal way then maybe they shouldn't play
And what would one achieve by cheating in this game? please tell me.
Perks from winning the war??? I can make more points from side switching in one hour then winning 25 for a reset.
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How is the 'auto' part of it 'cheating?' Just curious. :old:
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The auto side switcher was implemented to prevent extremes in ENY. If anyone has suggestions or ideas on how to modify the side switcher and maintain the balance this is a good time.
Is is possible to lengthen the number of sorties before the switch or maybe only a percentage of those that selected auto switched get switched and make those that picked get selected at random?
Or, change which vehicles and planes are subject to ENY?
:salute
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:old: this needs to end,1 minute this guys on your side, the next minute he is the enemy, he/she knows where your ships are-he/knows whats going on at your bases, they know where you are attacking.
auto side switching is a legal way to cheat. and it needs to end. if a pilot or gv'r can't get their perks the normal way then maybe they shouldn't play
Oh, lord, not another spy scandal thread.
I love auto-switch. Seems to me it has been the most effective way, ever, to keep the sides balanced. And people you once thought of as irritating are now your friends as you join their side.
I do not grasp the alleged link between auto-switch and perk farming. There's no guarantee that you won't get auto-switched again before the map is won; in fact, that is very likely. If you want to be a spy, there are far better ways to do it.
- oldman
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A whine has been recorded............ :x
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Do you guys mean to say that the game will automatically put you into a different country without you doing it?
If that's so, I really do not like that.
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I like the auto-switch option. I really don't care about perks, have many more than I need now. Lately I mostly want to fly a particular ride, most typically to get in some practice for an upcoming scenario. And in the current case that will mean I'll be flying low eny rides....so side switching will be perfect for me. I am not interested in sharing info, and typically am only looking for good air fights, and only take time to fly a sortie or 3.
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Do you guys mean to say that the game will automatically put you into a different country without you doing it?
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Yes, with, as I recall, a triple perkie bonus.
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Do you guys mean to say that the game will automatically put you into a different country without you doing it?
If that's so, I really do not like that.
It's an option you can enable/disable.
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Personally I think side switching is one of the dumbest things hitech ever did..... one of the biggest steps he did in this downward spiral to become a high-priced arcade game.
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Personally I think side switching is one of the dumbest things hitech ever did..... one of the biggest steps he did in this downward spiral to become a high-priced arcade game.
actually i think it's a good idea. if players and i just mean a few would ignore the information they know. used to side switch, never took advantage of it but some did, the 262 god was one of them.
semp
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It's an option you can enable/disable.
Oh, okay. That's good
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Do you guys mean to say that the game will automatically put you into a different country without you doing it?
If that's so, I really do not like that.
For the most part those that turn on the "side switcher" are those that are looking for a fight and couldnt care less about the "win the war" aspect of the game.
Lunatic is a hard core "team " player and so sees any one switching being a spy. Like I said I'd bet those that are switching couldnt tell you anything about the team they just left, because they dont care. They are just looking for a fight.
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I'm not dedicated to any country, my concern was in thinking that I would be automatically switched by force. Glad that's not the case.
I don't see what the big deal is if people switch sides.
All I care about is finding a fight. I don't really care about taking a base or winning a map. I just want to shoot at other planes for an hour or two.
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Hello.
My name is Sam.
And I am an an :uhoh an auto-sideswitcher. :lipsrsealed:
Okok im not that terrible of a person. If I am switched I do not cheat. Do not take advantage of the new nme intel. Do not give away new nme fleet postions etc. Thats simply wrong.
Cant think of any time someone has complained about me switching. Former team mates that i shoot down or they kill me is ended with a good natured :salute
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For the most part those that turn on the "side switcher" are those that are looking for a fight and couldnt care less about the "win the war" aspect of the game.
True............ but only takes one to ____ up the game. The other things that needs to be fixed.... recording and using film to find and locate your enemy.... and don't get me started on game sound settings.
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Auto side switch is the single most beneficial thing that has been added to the game in 5 years. It keeps people in the arena and prevents sides from only having P-40s to fly.
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Auto side switch is the single most beneficial thing that has been added to the game in 5 years. It keeps people in the arena and prevents sides from only having P-40s to fly.
Exactly !!! Well said.
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I've fallen off a lot lately - but if I couldn't switch sides I simply wouldn't play. My #1 complaint is that there's even still a timer to switch. Nearly every single time I log in, I'm on the dead side. I switch teams for one furball, then its done in 5 minutes because everyone just vulches.
I mean, at least shorten the timer
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I've fallen off a lot lately - but if I couldn't switch sides I simply wouldn't play. My #1 complaint is that there's even still a timer to switch. Nearly every single time I log in, I'm on the dead side. I switch teams for one furball, then its done in 5 minutes because everyone just vulches.
I mean, at least shorten the timer
Auto switch helps that, but it still can't guarantee you a fight in the AM.
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Been on for a couple hours figuring out buttons on a new setup and getting killed. Yet to find a furball...
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I've fallen off a lot lately - but if I couldn't switch sides I simply wouldn't play. My #1 complaint is that there's even still a timer to switch. Nearly every single time I log in, I'm on the dead side. I switch teams for one furball, then its done in 5 minutes because everyone just vulches.
I mean, at least shorten the timer
Doesn’t sound like you’re using Auto Switch. If you want to switch sides without it being auto it is 6 hours to change countries.
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I mean, at least shorten the timer
+1
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Side switcher here... I need the perks. Only trouble I've had is like Joe Brandon I often get confused as to where I'm at after getting ganged and landing in tower. Equal side abuse'e', trying to recover. :bolt:
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Side switcher here... I need the perks. Only trouble I've had is like Joe Brandon I often get confused as to where I'm at after getting ganged and landing in tower. Equal side abuse'e', trying to recover. :bolt:
Do you have a fake hangar also ?
https://youtu.be/oyDFw8LFYvs
Unbelievable...
Eagler
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My only issue is you finally get a good fight going, then poof, you automatically switch and you go on the team with no fight. When the rooks have the low #s and no fight on BowlMA or CraterMA, you get put on that side with no action, or action spread out all over 2-3 guys attack a base undefended. I feel like it should ask you if you want to switch before automatically switching. If I switch to the side with no action, I'm logging. I dont have the time these days to fly to a random base hoping someone rolls for me to murk after takeoff or play in the ack until it kills me. Just don't have time for it.
I honestly don't understand why a 3 hour switch time is not the answer. It pains me to have to make a decision to switch for the night hoping that the other side has the fight I am looking for. Sometimes still cannot tell who is winning the battle. So if I switch to the side that had the air advantage in the fight, I'll just log as it's pointless for my skill level as I am not needed. In all regard. It's the maps that cause this problem and it's the maps like BowlMA and CraterMA that are doing the most damage to air combat in this game. I log in during off hours Saturday to bowlMA and there is small dars all over and a fight on the side of the map that I cannot partake in. The #s are low on my side because there is no action and no one attacking that side. With maps that more suitable for off hours, which is the majority of the day. You see much better 3 sided fights because the areas condense the action, which keeps the #s balanced on all 3 sides as there are fights to partake in.
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a 3 hour switch does not guarantee that you will find a fight either. I know because I used to switch a lot when it was 1 hour.
perhaps think ahead, if you are in the middle of a good furball then turn off auto switch. that's what I did last year when I had auto switch on. I never take off without looking at the map and plan my mission. I can see furballs or lack of then plan accordingly.
semp
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if you are in the middle of a good furball then turn off auto switch.
Agreed.
- oldman
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I have been using the auto switch, it's been okay, not perfect, but okay.
Last night I was getting into the fight that was developing, ended a flight and was on the other side of the map on another country. It can surprise you when that happens, but
that's not the fault of the game or the system, it's my fault for not thinking ahead and turning it off so I could stay where I was and continue what I was doing.
And it doesn't always work as advertised: Just now I logged into Melee, 23 players total in the arena. Found myself on the Rooks, 10 players for them, 7 players each for the Bishops
and Knights. Supposed to automatically put me on the side with lowest numbers.......instead I ended up on the side with highest numbers. Not a huge deals in some instances, but with 24 total in game, I was gonna be limited to early war rides mainly. Nope, logged back out.
As far as spying.....lol. I don't pay attention to where any country's strategic assets are in great detail. I focus on finding the fight that suits me at the moment, and if I
get switched to the other side, I look for that same type fight. I try to move away and not fight against the country whose side I was just on, just so no one starts making accusations. Just a game to me, and tho some obviously take it more seriously, that's all it is in the end. A game that I play for my entertainment.
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When I do use auto switch, I monitor the roster quite often. It helps me make decisions like, "should I push into this 2 vs 5 situation and get murdered", or "should I reload this bird and try and stay on this country."
This helps a lot, especially on the larger maps that tend to go stale for one country at times.
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When I do use auto switch, I monitor the roster quite often. It helps me make decisions like, "should I push into this 2 vs 5 situation and get murdered", or "should I reload this bird and try and stay on this country."
This helps a lot, especially on the larger maps that tend to go stale for one country at times.
Exactly what i do and rarely attack the side i was just on, really try to avoid that unless it's the only fight.
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I was in a really good fight just the other night and then wham... I woke up and realized I had not flown for over a year.
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.....rarely attack the side i was just on, really try to avoid that unless it's the only fight.
same, whether I manually side-switch or use the auto-switch. Usually a non issue for me since normally only on for a short time lately, except for scenarios....
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I was in a really good fight just the other night and then wham... I woke up and realized I had not flown for over a year.
That's all your fault :)
You are missed in MNM
Eagler
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You are missed in MNM
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...and you're both missed in the scenarios.... :neener:
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Just remember :cheesy: :cheers: :old: :old: :old: We All live in a yellow Submarine ok :banana: :banana: :banana:
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I play the game morning, day, night and wee hours. Just a couple sorties at a time. I'm very observant, learning from everybody I fly with or against. The community is such where everybody knows everybody and EVERYBODY has their "home" country. I am also very vocal. I have a sort of terets when it comes to calling out BS. I admit, at times I go a bit overboard. Sorry. I fly knight, not much into side switching but I pay attention to the side switchers. For the most part, the majority play with integrity. The switch or get switched and they fill in where needed and contribute to achieving victory or help in a solid defense. Great guys, Great sticks and i'll fly their wing just as fast as i'll disregard any kills I have to double back and help them out a jam. Its the big ole bags of messingel that chap my backside. Those handful of veterans that exploit every weakness of the game for selfish personal gain without a shred of consideration for other players nor do they care about the effects their system gaming has on overall player experience.
I wont drop names, but here is a short list of what these special switchers do.
1.) War winning switch.. When they know a certain country is one base take away from winning the war, They switch and take the win and then log for 6 hours.
2.) Point/Perk farming. These perky switchers like to quietly switch and smash strats.. Oddly enough tis never the strat of their "home" country, just the other enemy's strat. After hoard killing the strat, they log till they can go home.
3.) The Balancer switcher.. These guys are really special.. These switchers will join a group taking bases and pretend to be part of the action but literally don't. They will fly around, pretend to engage their 'home" country players but never actually fire a shot but will be the first to bring troops for the capture. Now if its the 3rd country thats being captured, they wont deack, wont take out a VH or keep the friendly gv's clear of enemy attackers, BUT will gladly swoop in and pick your kill and always first to drop in from their perch above and scalp bombers. Never actually contributing positively to the overall cause of the country.
And yes, I'll be the first one to call it out, real time, on 200. Yes, everyone has the right to play his way for his $15, I get it, but it doesn't make me any less sick for seeing it. It's shamefull really because these are'nt kids playing call of duty, these are grown men. Worseover, this is what they give back to the community after 20 years of playing.
Switch sides, even the teams out.. Great!! BUT CONTRIBUTE!! COVER A GUYS BACK, HELP DEACK!! DON'T LEAVE A GUY GETTING DBLE TEAMED TO GO LAND 2 KILLS AND QUIT SETTING UP THE DANG CV's SO THEY WILL BE IN PERFECT SINKING POSITION WHEN YOU LOG BACK IN LATER ON YOUR HOME TEAM!!
Not accusations, actual observations. I stream just about every sortie and I have took up being wingman of switchers doing exactly the bs i described above.
Here's an idea.. END ENY, get that crap out of the game. ENY is just about as useful/retarded as "dont move your controller too rapidly" ENY IS NOT NEEDED and it does not do anything but make people logg out. The player base is no longer hundreds and thousands of players.. It's an average 50 with a 4 hour boost everyday to around 120 from 1700 to 2200. Its no longer an effective measure of ensuring fair play. The community size no longer warrants it. If the teams are a bit skewed, just hang tight and they balance out in the next 30 min or so.. (Unless its 0700 to 1100PST when the bish steamroller homeboys make their daily run of undefended base captures).
Most importantly, the skill level of every single player actively playing aces high Melee Arena is godlike. No noobs (besides me). just straight killers, masters of every craft in the game. even if the teams are slightly askewed, the short straw team can manage and even succeed as a result of their astonishing skill!!
Quit trying to implement new rules to help balance ENY and END ENY!! Vote for Pedro and END ENY.
This ends my rant. God Bless, Good night and Kill ya all later..
With Love from Infinity,
Buzz
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I play the game morning, day, night and wee hours. Just a couple sorties at a time. I'm very observant, learning from everybody I fly with or against. The community is such where everybody knows everybody and EVERYBODY has their "home" country. I am also very vocal. I have a sort of terets when it comes to calling out BS. I admit, at times I go a bit overboard. Sorry. I fly knight, not much into side switching but I pay attention to the side switchers. For the most part, the majority play with integrity. The switch or get switched and they fill in where needed and contribute to achieving victory or help in a solid defense. Great guys, Great sticks and i'll fly their wing just as fast as i'll disregard any kills I have to double back and help them out a jam. Its the big ole bags of messingel that chap my backside. Those handful of veterans that exploit every weakness of the game for selfish personal gain without a shred of consideration for other players nor do they care about the effects their system gaming has on overall player experience.
I wont drop names, but here is a short list of what these special switchers do.
1.) War winning switch.. When they know a certain country is one base take away from winning the war, They switch and take the win and then log for 6 hours.
2.) Point/Perk farming. These perky switchers like to quietly switch and smash strats.. Oddly enough tis never the strat of their "home" country, just the other enemy's strat. After hoard killing the strat, they log till they can go home.
3.) The Balancer switcher.. These guys are really special.. These switchers will join a group taking bases and pretend to be part of the action but literally don't. They will fly around, pretend to engage their 'home" country players but never actually fire a shot but will be the first to bring troops for the capture. Now if its the 3rd country thats being captured, they wont deack, wont take out a VH or keep the friendly gv's clear of enemy attackers, BUT will gladly swoop in and pick your kill and always first to drop in from their perch above and scalp bombers. Never actually contributing positively to the overall cause of the country.
And yes, I'll be the first one to call it out, real time, on 200. Yes, everyone has the right to play his way for his $15, I get it, but it doesn't make me any less sick for seeing it. It's shamefull really because these are'nt kids playing call of duty, these are grown men. Worseover, this is what they give back to the community after 20 years of playing.
Switch sides, even the teams out.. Great!! BUT CONTRIBUTE!! COVER A GUYS BACK, HELP DEACK!! DON'T LEAVE A GUY GETTING DBLE TEAMED TO GO LAND 2 KILLS AND QUIT SETTING UP THE DANG CV's SO THEY WILL BE IN PERFECT SINKING POSITION WHEN YOU LOG BACK IN LATER ON YOUR HOME TEAM!!
Not accusations, actual observations. I stream just about every sortie and I have took up being wingman of switchers doing exactly the bs i described above.
This guy needs his meds checked or upped
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There is a lot of 'felt truth' in it. Just for example:
1. War winning switch.. When they know a certain country is one base take away from winning the war, They switch and take the win and then log for 6 hours.
Nobody does that. Why? Because it doesn't work. You have to be on the winning team for at least 12 hours before you are eligible for victory perks.
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1.) War winning switch.. When they know a certain country is one base take away from winning the war, They switch and take the win and then log for 6 hours.
Nobody does that. Why? Because it doesn't work. You have to be on the winning team for at least 12 hours before you are eligible for victory perks.
Yes, but not everybody knows that. And some people just like to be on the side that got the win, even if it's just for a couple of minutes.
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This guy needs his meds checked or upped
Hey thanks for the contribution Dick.. Your comment reminds me of OOPK's contribution when he switched to Knight.
P.S. pretty cool DCS vids you been posting.. loooks great.
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There is a lot of 'felt truth' in it. Just for example:
Nobody does that. Why? Because it doesn't work. You have to be on the winning team for at least 12 hours before you are eligible for victory perks.
Sorry bro, incorrect.. More than once I have logged in just in time for the war to be won and still got the perks.
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End of the Day... you pay your $15 to play the way you want to. Fly off map, ram a guy you cant shoot down so he has to up at his base and fly all the way back again.. Bomb n bail, watch a guys live stream to get intel on enemy positions.. have at it... You will keep gaming the system, nobody can or will stop you.. I'll keep calling out your shennanigans on 200 in real time and make highlight films of it from my stream.. seems like a fair trade off to me..
Know this though.. I'll be that guy in the 110 rocket killing you.. you know the one.. That badazzzz 110 that turn fights spit 16's and yak3's... Yup, thats me, the guy that never runs, never hides and never hugz ack.. you see me coming, be prepared to fight.. 1 of 2 things will happen.. I'll kill you or you'll kill me.. (or your buddy will pick me while im fighting you)
Stay Frosty Killers and remember you can see it live daily only on aGhost TV starring SAAM I AM as Buzz Lightyear
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Sorry bro, incorrect.. More than once I have logged in just in time for the war to be won and still got the perks.
but you were still on that team for 12 hours, just not on-line. If you logged in, switched, and the team you switched to won the war 2 hours later you wouldnt get any perks for the win.
oh and btw, Lusche is rarely wrong :salute
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Sorry bro, incorrect.. More than once I have logged in just in time for the war to be won and still got the perks.
As Fugitve already said: You had already been on the winning side, you didn't just switch to it. :old:
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but you were still on that team for 12 hours, just not on-line. If you logged in, switched, and the team you switched to won the war 2 hours later you wouldnt get any perks for the win.
oh and btw, Lusche is rarely wrong :salute
That makes perfect sense. Thank you for the clarification fugitive my apologies for not fully understanding that particular rule.
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Love it lol...