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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: fd ski on March 19, 2022, 04:24:30 PM
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I just logged off from AH, totally aghast.
I can't believe how big of inroads russia propagada made into american minds.
Context - i live in Warsaw. We always had sizeable Ukrainian population, those days even more so.
I've been to the border, helped to move a russian speaking family from Dombas to Warsaw. Grandma, mother, child aged 2. Scared, worried about their men.
I log on to Ah and i hear "nazis in ukraine" troupe. Gents, for all its worth. I've been here 23 years, most of you "know" me in AH fashion. I'm no bot/spammer.
Are there nazis in ukraine ? yeah. Same as there are in USA, Poland or Russia. In every population there is a small group of
impotent cretins who need to satisfy there inferiority complex. They are usually uneducated, often ultras for some soccer club etc. When Ukraine was attacked in 2014 they even formed a militia unit- Azov. It still exists today, being wiped out in Mariupol. Thing is, over last 8 years not many nazi's are left in it.
Are nazis's in charge of Ukraine government? Absolutely not. Their president is a Jew for f...s sakes.
Their government is pro western. Ukrainians are getting richer by day. They travel to Europe pretty freely and often work there. They felt a taste of freedom, ability to work and earn a good living, and they like it.
Why does this bother Putin ? Because Ukraine and Russia are very culturally close and there are strong family bonds. Rich Ukraine will quickly lead to his own people wondering why they are so poor. Why they can't have all the cool stuff. It will be an end of his kleptocratic regime.
He needs Russia surrounded with poor, destitute nations like Belarus. So that his people see even more dismal conditions then their own. Sprinkle some patriotism and you're all set.
Truth is not in the middle. Truth is where the truth is.
Ukraine was attacked in 2014, despite Russian/USA/UK guarantees and is currently being wiped off the map.
Innocent people, civilians are being executed. Towns leveled.
Please, i beg you, don't parrot that retarded Russian propaganda. There are freedom loving people, peaceful people, being brutalized right now. If you can help, please do. Least you can do is not help the enemy by endorsing their lies.
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So true, Ski.
Stay Strong.
:salute
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Amen. Get facts straight. It is a war pressed by Russia. They simply want something someone else has. Russia, or should I say Putin, has no illusions. He could care less about the Ukrainian people or for his own soldiers. He's an evil Despot. He will make others die for what he wants. I could not put it more simply.
Some of us are old enough to remembering watching the news Russian Tanks in the streets of Hungary quelling the population forcibly. What Poland went through to become an independent country.
The Czech republic etc. Same old song unfortunately. Iron fisted Leaders with an ignorant population believing the propaganda.
fd/ski <S> well done. May God be with the people of Poland, and for people of the Ukraine.who are suffering massively. We should not stand with anything but ones own freedom, peace and security.
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It's the same around the world, even here in NZ on local forums I'm seeing the same crap.
I have a huge amount of respect for what the Polish people are doing for the Ukrainian refugees, <S> Ski!
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Thank you Ski for saying what you said. I am in Canada so I cannot even begin to appreciate the frustration and anger you must feel being so close to this Russian atrocity. Nevertheless, the war crimes being committed by the Russian army are not being censored on Canadian television and like most Canucks (we have our share of ignorant nazis too), I am incensed about what is going on.
The parallel to Hitler's blitzkrieg invasion of Poland in September 1939 is too similar to ignore... This "Dicktator" has to be stopped now or we will have to later.
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you have to understand that a small segment get their news from Facebook and some people who's only interest in news is how much money they get by creating controversy. their own network attorneys have successfully defended them in court by saying no reasonable person would believe them. and yet many people do believe them.
semp
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:salute fd ski
Ch 200 can be a cesspool at times for sure. The inroads run deeper than you see. :bhead
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Weakness (not Ukraine) will always be exploited by bullies.
Proxy war and appeasement…historically how has that worked out?
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I just logged off from AH, totally aghast.
I can't believe how big of inroads russia propagada made into american minds.
Not Americans in general. Those that like baseball caps of a district color. They have a harhdon for Putin. They never saw a Authoritarian that didn't give them wood.
If they got their way, America would be ruled like Putin's Russia. That way, we'd be STRONG!
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Not Americans in general. Those that like baseball caps of a district color. They have a harhdon for Putin. They never saw a Authoritarian that didn't give them wood.
If they got their way, America would be ruled like Putin's Russia. That way, we'd be STRONG!
Your ignorance and prejudice know no bounds.
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Your ignorance and prejudice know no bounds.
Yawn. OK, Gaylord.
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Thank you Ski for saying what you said.
Agreed. Thanks.
- oldman
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Glory to Ukraine!
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Your ignorance and prejudice know no bounds.
on the other hand, this is bs.
semp
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on the other hand, this is bs.
semp
So you’re also accusing Trump supporters of being pro-Russian/Putin in the invasion and war against Ukraine?
That is what is total BS.
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So you’re also accusing Trump supporters of being pro-Russian/Putin in the invasion and war against Ukraine?
That is what is total BS.
did I say that, because if I thought they were I would have typed it.
semp
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READ what CptTrps wrote.
It’s a direct accusation of such.
There’s no other interpretation of it, so what is BS about me calling him ignorant and prejudice for his claim that Trump supporters are loving Putin and the war/atrocities against Ukraine?
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Yawn. OK, Gaylord.
So you’re also accustomed to using sexual slurs against gay men to insult :eek:
Such tolerance out of you.
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READ what CptTrps wrote.
It’s a direct accusation of such.
There’s no other interpretation of it, so what is BS about me calling him ignorant and prejudice for his claim that Trump supporters are loving Putin and the war/atrocities against Ukraine?
just in case you havent been paying attention, I argue with crips as much as I argue with you. think both of you are wrong, but in this case, based on what I can read on the news and non news such a fox and the other trump networks in this case he's right. we have people like hannity and the carl guy who talk so much bs in the context of I am just asking questions that some people actually believe their bs, and think they're telling the truth.
that is what I believe.
semp
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this is what most americans dont want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzXY902hbo
I maybe banned but, this is not why I joined the marines for. to support a small minority of idiots that are growing because some members of congress support this.
semp
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the city I live in was a kkk town back in the 70's, my wife is german, when they would march around her streets, parents would tell them to get inside and hide. once she was selected to be a beauty queen for the city, she was around 16, she didnt know it was a kkk parade, she was too scared to jump out and run. that's not what what she believed. a few will convert a few, then it will be dozens then hundreds. stupidity is not something you can disregard. stupid people will follow stupid people trying to blame somebody else for their own inequities. that's what we need to stop, including people like tuckerson that only talks crap because it makes him money.
semp
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Please, i beg you, don't parrot that retarded Russian propaganda. There are freedom loving people, peaceful people, being brutalized right now. If you can help, please do. Least you can do is not help the enemy by endorsing their lies.
Well said. For non-US players Channel 200 can be pretty cringeworthy when the discussion wanders into the prideful 'education is over-rated' territory. Perhaps it's ironic that Putin - as a last bastian of 1815-thinking - has destroyed his own efforts and dreams by being trapped precisely by this sort of deluded reasoning and confirmation bias.
Will come good, the world will move forward faster because of this. Thank you to all the Polish people for what you are doing. As many of us know, it is a lot. :salute
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just in case you havent been paying attention, I argue with crips as much as I argue with you. think both of you are wrong, but in this case, based on what I can read on the news and non news such a fox and the other trump networks in this case he's right. we have people like hannity and the carl guy who talk so much bs in the context of I am just asking questions that some people actually believe their bs, and think they're telling the truth.
that is what I believe.
semp
No I don’t see you arguing with him here.
Mostly what he does is come in here and snipe at conservatives “republicans” and the GOP at every opportunity even if the thread had no mention of it prior to his post (like this thread). He also posts about other games a fair amount and sometimes what he thinks will improve AH.
If you think your average conservative listens to Tucker and Hannity you are quite wrong. First they are opinion commentary. Second Fox News ratings have tanked significantly during Trump’s term and continue to do so; conservatives have left Fox News in droves for alternatives.
Who are these “Trump networks” you speak of? Please name them.
Btw that video is nearly 5 years old.
You mention the KKK, do you know who founded it and its history ? Ever heard the term Dixiecrat? Do yourself a favor and gain some knowledge there.
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did I say that, because if I thought they were I would have typed it.
semp
That’s a contradiction. Here you say you don’t think that and later you say you agree with Trips about Trump supporters. Which is it?
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<S> fd ski
The world needs more like you
Please remember the average American could not find Ukraine on a globe if you didn't let them google it, then half still wouldn't be able to locate it...
We yanks have become the ignorant selfish lot regardless of woke some try to pretend to be...ch 200 echoes that sometimes
Eagler
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So you’re also accustomed to using sexual slurs against gay men to insult :eek:
Such tolerance out of you.
I didn't even realize you were a gay man.
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Not-That-Theres-Anything-Wrong-With-That-Reaction-Gif-On-Seinfeld.gif)
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I didn't even realize you were a gay man.
(http://mrwgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Not-That-Theres-Anything-Wrong-With-That-Reaction-Gif-On-Seinfeld.gif)
I think you misread his comment..
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I think you misread his comment..
Maybe. Maybe not.
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Maybe. Maybe not.
His comment was about your slur, not his sexuality.
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His comment was about your slur, not his sexuality.
I didn't slur his sexuality. If he wants to come out, thats up to him.
But like Trump, I'm a counter-puncher.
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Always amazed how any discussion in here will erode to a debate about T*****.
Thanks again Ski for starting a great thread but suspect a quick lock in near. :salute
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I dont think either side is "in the right". The west has been poking the Russian bear for a long time. Thinking it can do what it wants and disrespect Putin and Russia. Hes been talking about it for years. 2016 election was a perfect example of that. I've seen far more false propaganda used by the west and Ukraine than Russia. Many of you choose to disregard anything the Russia military says.. If you think Zelensky is the "leader" of that country. You aren't paying attention. Look at Kolomoisky. Penchyk and Soros. The guys with the real money, ive seen the real research. Look at the coronvirus weapons being transported thru Ukraine. No one wants to actually fight the Russians in Ukraine. Germany still feeds the Russian economy, and America has been weakened by horrendous energy policies. I've heard a lot of the same arguments on both sides, but I've heard that Ukraine has not been prospering since 2014. Ive heard of Azov bombing nothern Ukraine towns. I've got Obama and McCain meeting with actual Nazi antisemites like Tinybook. This is much bigger than Putin just invading a country because he feels like it. He's really attacking the establishment cabal and Ukraine is right in the center of is. They act like the "west" can invade any country they want like Syria and Lybia. And they aren't war criminals for that too? No side is in the right here and Ukrainian people are stuck in the middle of Russia Vs American establishment and Nato not playing by the rules and I do feel bad for them about it.
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Q.E.D.
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Always amazed how any discussion in here will erode to a debate about T*****.
Thanks again Ski for starting a great thread but suspect a quick lock in near. :salute
I think it was Frank Lloyd Wright who said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the tastes of the American public."
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I personally surely do not believe Putin/Russians in what they say
because they invaded Ukraine... imo, Obama and NATO are to blame because
they did not respond to Putin's annexation of Crimea in 2014... he thought (Putin)
would be able to get away with it because of Biden... I'm guessing Putin's thinking
was incorrect.... Oh and btw, why has this thread not been locked?
The previous responses sure seem political to me...
:salute
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I've seen far more false propaganda. . . .
ive seen the real research. . . . .
Look at the coronvirus weapons being transported thru Ukraine. . . .
I've heard a lot of the same arguments. . . .
I've heard that Ukraine. . . .
Ive heard of Azov bombing nothern Ukraine towns. . . . .
I've got Obama and McCain meeting with actual Nazi antisemites like Tinybook. . . . .
He's really attacking the establishment cabal and Ukraine is right in the center of is. . . . .
Pfffft what does the OP know? Obviously I had it all wrong.
Look at the proof above. Read it, soak it in, and just try to dispute this research - especially when its from somebody in the know. I got it now! Putin is Good, and the rest of the world is part of the Cabal. Violators research and accuracy is nothing short of amazing. Every Secret or Alternative site he has referred too, has been spot on.
Remember when the corrupt former 1st lady went to prison after the President took office. "Nailed it" The exposure of the Horizon air hijacking used to cover up the missiles fired at Airforce One by the rogue submarine in Washington? "No missiles fired at Airforce 1 since then - Check" Then of course, the 1000s of secret government documents released that led to all those indictments and arrest of 100s of left leaning politicians? "Breaking big rocks into little rocks now" Who could forget the Government Chemtrails used for population control or was it control of the population? How many examples must he provide before the rest will listen?
Now - Russia fighting back against the Cabal? It's about time!
Isn't it obvious why 44 million peoples homes & lives are in jeopardy? It's because the Righteous leader of another nation is being wrongfully portrayed by the MSM as the aggressor when Putin is really the Mary Poppins of the East - only trying to provide Rays of sunshine, prosperity, stability, and safety to the region. BTW would anybody like more Kool-Aid?
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:lipsrsealed:
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Look at the coronvirus weapons being transported thru Ukraine.
Yeah. You lost me with that one. Sigh