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Title: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: trogdor on May 01, 2022, 07:11:23 PM
I recently caught another player's P-51 in a climb to absolute ceiling (38k or so).
Can you see anything at all in the screenshots below that might explain why my P-51 (green/red) is faster and climbs better than the other guy's (silver/lime)?
This has been a real cause of confusion and concern. Help us solve this mystery!
 :noid

Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: Drano on May 01, 2022, 07:16:04 PM
Fuel load? Trim slightly out of whack with one plane? Couple of guesses.

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Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: FLS on May 01, 2022, 07:49:03 PM
Trim for best climb is important, so is fuel load, and wing tank.
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: Simon on May 01, 2022, 07:56:17 PM
Obvious Photoshop.
/s :lol
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: Tig on May 01, 2022, 08:49:44 PM
I recently caught another player's P-51 in a climb to absolute ceiling (38k or so).
Can you see anything at all in the screenshots below that might explain why my P-51 (green/red) is faster and climbs better than the other guy's (silver/lime)?
This has been a real cause of confusion and concern. Help us solve this mystery!
 :noid

Like the other guys said, fuel load and ammo affects the weight. I haven't looked at the clip but did you have WEP on? He might not have known about it/been out of WEP.

Lots of factors, it's probably not black magic.
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: trogdor on May 01, 2022, 09:05:23 PM
Only thing i can figure is that GIGANTIC DROP TANK on the Moon's wing might in some crazy way add weight and drag. I guess we'll never know for sure.......
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: SPKmes on May 01, 2022, 11:52:38 PM
must have been a slow night....   seriously.... one...that is some real desperate running.... and two... that is some real determined chasing....

To be fair... there is a point in a chase where you sort of say.... yeah man... I'm chasing you as far as you want to go ..just to be a pain in the butt.... (for those who are not tied to an umbilical and could care less about score and death that is)
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: Tig on May 02, 2022, 07:32:39 AM
Only thing i can figure is that GIGANTIC DROP TANK on the Moon's wing might in some crazy way add weight and drag. I guess we'll never know for sure.......

 :rofl :rofl

Yep, that'll do it!

Really makes you wonder what the hell he was doing with one DT, must've been a pain in the rear to fly like that.....
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: John on May 02, 2022, 10:07:17 AM
I'm interested in acquiring the full video. Could you please attach the full sorte? How did this engagement at 38k even occur?

Thanks
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: trogdor on May 02, 2022, 12:53:19 PM
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I'm interested in acquiring the full video. Could you please attach the full sorte? How did this engagement at 38k even occur?

Thanks


Here's the video. I began recording shortly after visual contact.
The only action begins at 15:10.
I run out of fuel at about 17:00.
Embrace the boredom.
Title: Re: How can 1 P-51 climb better than another P-51? Please help us figure this out
Post by: FLS on May 02, 2022, 01:07:05 PM
:rofl :rofl

Yep, that'll do it!

Really makes you wonder what the hell he was doing with one DT, must've been a pain in the rear to fly like that.....

Combat trim and/or auto trim make it easy to ignore a single bomb or drop tank. Some people use drop tanks so they can carry 25% in their internal tanks for fighting.