General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: artik on May 09, 2022, 04:12:05 PM
Title: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: artik on May 09, 2022, 04:12:05 PM
Recently Ukrainian Bayraktar TB2 UAV have shut down Russian transport helicopter over the Snake Island.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d32EKhjUCU
It is used deliberately in air-to-air role (not sure if ammunition is air-to-air)
I know only of one another case of UAV shutting down a plane - it was Israeli UAV that get maneuver kill of Syrian MiG that crashed trying to shutdown the UAV (AFAIR it referenced in "The Sky Is Not the Limit" by Eliezer Chohen). But it was rather accident that deliberate action aimed on killing other plane by UAV.
So it seems a first case of UAV air to air kill
edit: it also maybe recording by UAV but targeting by nearby Suchoi or Mig...
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: CptTrips on May 09, 2022, 09:55:44 PM
Nice shot.
:D
When Excalibur arrives, this kind of sniping will exponentially increase. You can fire a LOT more arty rounds than launch drones.
With US intel, I wouldn't stand too near any Russian above the rank of Major. ;)
Warheads on Foreheads!
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Devil 505 on May 09, 2022, 10:19:08 PM
I'd be more impressed if the chopper was actually travelling somewhere and not just hovering there. I mean, you could have taken it down with a JDAM.
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Ramesis on May 10, 2022, 02:56:38 PM
Imagine the soldiers below it and on the ground :aok
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Shuffler on May 10, 2022, 04:26:04 PM
Now there is a rumor floating around that that was an Ukrainian chopper
Source?
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Meatwad on May 10, 2022, 08:58:32 PM
A quick check on reddit.com/r/ukraine/ has several threads on the snake island helicopter, but cant find the exact one about it being Ukrainian. might of been deleted by the mods since it was reposted many times. Thats where I seen it at. The video on youtube had the same few comments. Not sure if its true or not but thats where I first seen it
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: artik on May 10, 2022, 11:56:13 PM
You know why it doesn't make any sense to send at this point Ukrainian troops to Snake Island?
Because it is very hard to defend. Meanwhile there were several confirmed Russian boats and AA systems destroyed at the Island.
It would be plain stupid for Ukrainian army to take the Island at this point. And so far Ukrainian army didn't do very stupid things unlike Russian forces that got themselves into same trap over and over and over because very centralized command and control without proper feedback
See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Chornobaivka_attacks
And it happens over and over in many locations when Russian command isn't being flexible enough to adopt to situation.
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: zack1234 on May 11, 2022, 11:38:41 AM
Bizarre thread
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Eagler on May 11, 2022, 11:42:06 AM
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: zack1234 on May 12, 2022, 01:24:11 AM
Hilarious
How would you know?
Your not allowed to see Russian information to see if it’s fake or not.
In August it will be something else
The Ukraine fighting for Democracy… :rofl
Grow up
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Eagler on May 12, 2022, 06:10:13 AM
That is my concern..
When our "trusted" media will lie continually and push unverified news as fact for whatever reasons for years, even making it daily television while cohorting with their peers to falsely claim serious allegations are just russian disinformation - "the smartest person I know" crackhead laptop - then have an issue believing anything else that rolls off their lying tongues...
Eagler
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Arlo on May 12, 2022, 07:05:18 AM
Relax. Think it through. :)
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Eagler on May 12, 2022, 07:28:16 AM
Lol yep sure .. from I have seen most can't think for themselves
It's all good man, it was just cheese in the shag carpet...
The media has lost all credibility to too many for it to be considered a trusted source of knowledge and truth.. just big biz now with agendas
Eagler
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Arlo on May 12, 2022, 07:51:56 AM
It's a historically practiced authoritarian gimmick to get people to hate actual news versus hateful propaganda. :frown:
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: zack1234 on May 14, 2022, 07:07:56 AM
The Germans in the 1930’s and 1940’s were in the same situation :old:
Up to the end they were fighting to defend European civilisation :old:
The Germans were more educated than the average American today :old:
:rofl
Putin man bad :rofl Orange man bad :rofl Yellow fat man bad :rofl Invading a sovereign state is bad :rofl (Iraq,Libya :rofl)
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Eagler on May 14, 2022, 07:28:06 AM
After WW1 America had enough...took Pearl Harbor to push us full time into WW2..
They have found that proxy wars are as profitable and can be extended as local boys are usually not sacrificed so the cry to end them is not as loud...see Ukraine for latest example..no talks of ending anything without a Russian defeat..
That should go well...seems to have so far.
Eagler
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: CptTrips on May 14, 2022, 09:40:27 AM
see Ukraine for latest example..no talks of ending anything without a Russian defeat..
Yeah. Russia should be rewarded with a negotiated peace and land give away for their aggressive land grab against a weaker neighbor.
And the same after they've invaded Poland? And the same after they've invaded Lithuania? And the same after they've invaded Latvia? And the same after they've invaded Estonia? And the same after they've invaded Finland?
Will that buy us peace in our time Mr. Chamberlain?
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Eagler on May 14, 2022, 10:01:01 AM
In 2014 that happened and the world went on
Why is it different this time?
My guess is the possibility of the Russian nutbag starting additional conflict with other countries nato or not increases each 40 billion we pump into Ukraine..it doesn't diminish that possibility IMO
40 billion...wow we are making some very rich very quickly this go round..
Eagler
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: CptTrips on May 14, 2022, 10:17:18 AM
What was the difference between Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland?
Answer: We thought appeasement would work. We thought we could let him have the first two and he would be satisfied and stop. By the time of the invasion of Poland, we realized he would never stop unless we stopped him by force.
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: zack1234 on May 14, 2022, 12:25:54 PM
Russia has won
No turnip growing country will join the EU regime or NATO :rofl
The Western European regimes have shown themselves to be untrustworthy.
The Ukraine played big shot thinking its so called Allies would be there to defend its borders :rofl
France and Germany stopped buying Russia fuel? :rofl :rofl
Russia will make more crappy tanks and missiles and keep the ethnic Russian land it has annexed.
August it will be the Middle East on your propaganda news. November it will be covid 20 for you lot to do as your told December there will be a world wide cyber attack and you will all be eating tinned beans and cabbage soup
Russian man bad Orange man bad :rofl
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: Arlo on May 14, 2022, 12:45:58 PM
Zack is a communist Russian. :old:
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: LNG15 on May 14, 2022, 03:17:47 PM
Oswald Mosley the socialist member of Parliament in the 1930s :rofl
Fact
He was a damn socialist
You people don’t even read books :rofl
Watch CNN Don Lemon is your source of news.
You don’t have access to Russian news because your regime will not allow you to make a decision based on facts.
What are you Zach "The Perfect Human"? Think that you stuff doesn't stink. Because you love to say everything political on stuff like this, and think that your way is SOOOO PERFECT! You remind me of a co worker who is exactly like that. The "Perfect Human"
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: FLOOB on May 15, 2022, 09:20:34 PM
There’s defo two sides of this argument. When Ukraine threatened to restrict Russia’s access to to Crimea and the Black Sea, Russia invaded in 2014 just as we knew they would. Because the Russian perception is that Russia cannot survive without access to the Black Sea. By threatening to deny access Ukraine became an existential threat. Ukraine should’ve reversed the evil that Stalin did, instead they capitalized on it. Putin needs to go, not just because of the atrocities but because he’s shown himself to be completely, utterly incompetent as a head of state. One look at his military tells us this. And this is the military responsible for half of the world’s nuclear weapons. That is why he needs to go.
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: zack1234 on May 16, 2022, 01:25:48 AM
What are you Zach "The Perfect Human"? Think that you stuff doesn't stink. Because you love to say everything political on stuff like this, and think that your way is SOOOO PERFECT! You remind me of a co worker who is exactly like that. The "Perfect Human"
1 2 3 go
What was the last book you read?
Politics about a war :rofl :rofl :x
You actually posted “politics” about a thread about war :rofl
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: LNG15 on May 16, 2022, 07:08:37 AM
The GFC are poo.
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: artik on May 17, 2022, 12:04:16 PM
And maybe let's go back to the topic...
Isn't it first real intended a2a kill by UAV?
Title: Re: Is this a first case of a UAV performing air-to-air role by mission?
Post by: jollyFE on May 18, 2022, 08:02:38 AM
UASs have been experimenting with A2A for several years now. Early Preds had stingers mounted and I believe AIM-9s later on. Not sure if the US has any kills though.