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Title: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 21, 2022, 02:39:54 PM
Very random question but does anyone happen to have an old, unwanted piston from a 496 big-clock Chevy engine? One will do, doesn't matter if it's holed, dirty, scratched, been used for an ashtray for the last 30-years or whether the piston rings are present or not, as long as it's roughly dimensionally intact. Has to be a 496 and no smaller. Shipping looks to be about $20 for such an item to where I live. Naturally I'd pay that. It's for a design project.

Such items are unobtanium where I live.

Let me know by PM if you can help. Thanks.

Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: zack1234 on May 21, 2022, 04:06:50 PM
I have 14 unused said pistons in my shed.

You can have them they are mine :banana:
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 21, 2022, 04:19:20 PM
You drive a Morgan 3-wheeler!  :banana:

Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: SNO on May 21, 2022, 06:19:14 PM
I thought your shed was full of books?  :devil
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Shuffler on May 21, 2022, 06:26:24 PM
I thought your shed was full of books?  :devil

His shed is full of tools except when he is here.  :rofl
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Meatwad on May 21, 2022, 07:19:00 PM
I thought your shed was full of books?  :devil

Its full of sailors from the Royal Navy  :old:
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 22, 2022, 12:45:10 PM
Perhaps the 496 was something of a rarity even in the US?

Found one on eBay. Shipping & import duty doubles the price unfortunately. Plus it's new. Didn't want to deprive someone who needed one for a real application. 

Anyone know anyone using one for a door-stop? I'll trade you some advanced ACM training  :banana:
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Oldman731 on May 22, 2022, 05:25:46 PM
Perhaps the 496 was something of a rarity even in the US?


Good history here:  http://garage.grumpysperformance.com/index.php?threads/which-496-bbc-engine.12291/

Never even heard of a 496 until this thread.  Thanks!

- oldman
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Peanut1 on May 22, 2022, 11:50:11 PM
Very random question but does anyone happen to have an old, unwanted piston from a 496 big-clock Chevy engine? One will do, doesn't matter if it's holed, dirty, scratched, been used for an ashtray for the last 30-years or whether the piston rings are present or not, as long as it's roughly dimensionally intact. Has to be a 496 and no smaller. Shipping looks to be about $20 for such an item to where I live. Naturally I'd pay that. It's for a design project.

Such items are unobtanium where I live.

Let me know by PM if you can help. Thanks.
so.....whatcha gonna do with it?
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 23, 2022, 12:27:54 AM
Never even heard of a 496 until this thread.  Thanks!

 :rofl Trust me to pick the obscure one thinking it's normal. Lots of boat-applications apparently.

Cheers Oldman.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Shuffler on May 23, 2022, 07:30:08 AM
It was used in trucks too. The piston will be around .060" larger diameter than a 454 if you have one of those.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: knorB on May 23, 2022, 07:57:12 AM
Standard 454 piston is the same ... it's the stroke that makes the diff.  .060 is a common over bore when refurbing an engine block of any displacement.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: knorB on May 23, 2022, 07:59:41 AM
Ohh and the standard 454 piston is 4.25".
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Shuffler on May 23, 2022, 09:41:32 AM
Standard 454 piston is the same ... it's the stroke that makes the diff.  .060 is a common over bore when refurbing an engine block of any displacement.

Never had one. Knew you could make one, stroked 454 bored .060.

On the bored engine the 454 heads will fit. Will 454 heads fit on an actual 496?  :)
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 23, 2022, 02:56:20 PM
Ohh and the standard 454 piston is 4.25".

> 4" pistons  :rofl Fantastic!
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: morfiend on May 23, 2022, 03:50:20 PM
I have a piston from a Kieth Black hemi,it’s kinda melted and has part of a valve inserted into it. Not sure of it’s size but I think the hemi was north of 500 ci and no you can’t have it,took over an hour to get it out of what was left of the block.




    :salute
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Shuffler on May 23, 2022, 04:16:36 PM
I dropped a valve in a 327 once. Buried in the piston. Barely marked the head.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: morfiend on May 24, 2022, 10:42:42 AM
I dropped a valve in a 327 once. Buried in the piston. Barely marked the head.



LOL… this hemi was in a drag boat that blew up just as it launched,a good portion of it is at the bottom of the lake. It blew several rods out the side of the block and the blower only stayed on because it was tethered in place.

  I was able to grab the piston as the engine was being salvaged for any useable parts that were left. The left head was broken into at least 3 pieces.



    <S>
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: knorB on May 24, 2022, 10:44:21 AM
> 4" pistons  :rofl Fantastic!

Not sure what you are finding funny.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: knorB on May 24, 2022, 12:39:44 PM
https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/sucp-0901-496-chevy-big-block-build/

One of the most common starting points for a big-block build is the venerable 454 Chevy block. You can still find them and the better ones can handle a huge amount of power. Best of all, they're ripe for the stroker treatment. Take a 454, add a 4.250-inch stroke crank along with some 6.385-inch rods and your displacement shoots up to 489 cubes. Now bore those cylinders out a touch, to say .060-inch over and you end up with the venerable 496. Those extra 42 cubes pay big dividends when it comes to churning out torque, and as a byproduct horsepower.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 24, 2022, 01:29:50 PM
Ah so, am I reading it right that a 4.31 was the largest bore possible for this engine type? Mostly the boat forums have a lot of information about the big ones.

Not sure what you are finding funny.

I do not find it funny I think it's marvellous.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: Shuffler on May 24, 2022, 01:33:20 PM
https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/sucp-0901-496-chevy-big-block-build/

One of the most common starting points for a big-block build is the venerable 454 Chevy block. You can still find them and the better ones can handle a huge amount of power. Best of all, they're ripe for the stroker treatment. Take a 454, add a 4.250-inch stroke crank along with some 6.385-inch rods and your displacement shoots up to 489 cubes. Now bore those cylinders out a touch, to say .060-inch over and you end up with the venerable 496. Those extra 42 cubes pay big dividends when it comes to churning out torque, and as a byproduct horsepower.

The 427 is the choice for street rods these days. Several of the folks in the Camaro club have 427s with RWHP up to around 2000. Those are all street cars.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: zack1234 on May 25, 2022, 01:43:52 AM
Ah so, am I reading it right that a 4.31 was the largest bore possible for this engine type? Mostly the boat forums have a lot of information about the big ones.

I do not find it funny I think it's marvellous.

I got half a tea cake over said post.
Title: Re: Unwanted wanted engine part
Post by: nrshida on May 25, 2022, 01:05:33 PM
I got half a tea cake over said post.

Oh yes I said 'big ones'. Apologies.