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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: icepac on July 25, 2022, 12:31:24 PM
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So who was closest in their estimate of deaths?
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So who was closest in their estimate of deaths?
Will never know since so many were fraudulently counted as covid.
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Will never know since so many were fraudulently counted as covid.
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The numbers will never been know just like covid hospitalizations...those admitted for covid and those admitted for say broken finger who then tested positive for covid but has no symptoms are counted the same...
The numbers were never accurate nor can they ever be now ... some think as planned.
Eagler
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I see the 'fraudulent' claim as ... well ... fraudulent. If a person has had Covid then it is a (if not the chief) comorbidity of the patient. Covid increases the probability of and severity of practically every dangerous negative health factor. When it first started spreading it was considered a pneumatic virus and even if one might technically say the patient 'died from pneumonia' the pneumonia was caused by the Covid virus. And in the cases or patients who were already suffering from various health issues Covid usually accelerated or further complicated their conditions.
Covid patients can suffer the following (known so far):
Acute Respiratory Failure
Pneumonia
Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS)
Acute Liver Injury
Acute Cardiac Injury
Secondary Infection
Acute Kidney Injury
Septic Shock
Disseminated Intravascular Coagulation
Blood Clots
Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children
Chronic Fatigue
Rhabdomyolysis
This is true for Covid survivors (long term).
(Those politicizing Covid should really be ashamed of themselves.)
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The lab leak theory is generally accepted now.
The experts have admitted lying and promoting personal agendas.
The effect of the lockdowns look to have been a disaster everywhere.
The notion that the vax will prevent disease or contagion is obviously false.
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DmonSlayer for the win.
"Less than a hundred dead total. Whole thing over by end of March."
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The lab leak theory is generally accepted now.
The experts have admitted lying and promoting personal agendas.
The effect of the lockdowns look to have been a disaster everywhere.
The notion that the vax will prevent disease or contagion is obviously false.
the lab leak theory is just that a theory. it's still being discussed but not accepted, since it can't be proven or disproven.
as for the vaccine I learned before I took it that it would give me immunity for a few months. but if I got sick, the likelihood of ending up in a hospital was less. I got covid twice, other than being a little tired that was about it. others not so lucky. I have all the boosters so I hope I'll be alright.
as for the lockdowns, nobody forced you to stay home. in some countries they did but not here. I went out anytime I wanted. had barbq with my neighbors, or just sat outside with a cooler full of beers and talk to whoever was outside. but we did it safely.
semp
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Covid 20 next year
And you lot will do as your told
Peasants
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Covid is like other questionable subjects these days...you can't question any of it or you will be canceled...still...
We are expected to accept any number on any subject from the ministry of truth without question...they know best
Eagler
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Covid is like other questionable subjects these days...you can't question any of it or you will be canceled...still...
We are expected to accept any number on any subject from the ministry of truth without question...they know best
Eagler
As long as we have a open border, any disease is open for spreading. Even those we once thought were eradicated from our shores.
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the lab leak theory is just that a theory. it's still being discussed but not accepted, since it can't be proven or disproven.
as for the vaccine I learned before I took it that it would give me immunity for a few months. but if I got sick, the likelihood of ending up in a hospital was less. I got covid twice, other than being a little tired that was about it. others not so lucky. I have all the boosters so I hope I'll be alright.
as for the lockdowns, nobody forced you to stay home. in some countries they did but not here. I went out anytime I wanted. had barbq with my neighbors, or just sat outside with a cooler full of beers and talk to whoever was outside. but we did it safely.
semp
You're forgetting the people in this country that got arrested for being outside alone on a beach. The businesses that had to close and went out of business. The damage to young children's development. Dr Birx believes Covid came from the lab Fauci funded through an NGO.
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Never considered the open border effects but I now see it could have changed the outcome.
The massive border surge happened after people made their predictions.
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If a deceased hospital patient tested positive for covid it was a covid death and was reimbursed at a higher rate. The covid test was very sensitive. When you subsidize something you get more of it.
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If a deceased hospital patient tested positive for covid it was a covid death and was reimbursed at a higher rate. The covid test was very sensitive. When you subsidize something you get more of it.
how much was the higher rate?
semp
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If a deceased hospital patient tested positive for covid it was a covid death and was reimbursed at a higher rate. The covid test was very sensitive. When you subsidize something you get more of it.
Looking after a hospitalized covid patient is VERY expensive. ICU doctors, nurses and other staff are not your regular run of the mill med staff.
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Covid is like other questionable subjects these days...you can't question any of it or you will be canceled...still...
We are expected to accept any number on any subject from the ministry of truth without question...they know best
Eagler
That is the absolute truth! And it's funny how some people still just blindly accept whatever they're told from the government. And they even defend the government's actions.
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So much better just to cancel science in favor of one's political belief/religion because .... paper masks and vaccines are 'deadlier' than Covid. Someone on Fox or OAN said so. :aok
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So much better just to cancel science in favor of one's political belief/religion because .... paper masks and vaccines are 'deadlier' than Covid. Someone on Fox or OAN said so. :aok
:aok
Far-right conspiratorial channel One America News is taking the loss of its last major pay-TV provider pretty hard.
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/maga-channel-oan-goes-wild-170512522.html
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Auto accident ? Had covid ? Covid death. Heart attack, ANYTHING. Had covid ? Covid death.
Follow the MONEY...
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Auto accident ? Had covid ? Covid death. Heart attack, ANYTHING. Had covid ? Covid death.
Follow the MONEY...
Show one instance where an auto accident was counted as Covid. Just one.
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Auto accident ? Had covid ? Covid death. Heart attack, ANYTHING. Had covid ? Covid death.
Follow the MONEY...
my nephew was in a car accident, totalled his car. guess what caused him to pass out and crash. he was complaining for days that he was tired. Young guy mid 20s. he tested positive. and no injuries guess what he was treated for.
you think doctors would risk their license, going to jail for a hospital?
funny thing hospitals got paid based on Medicare rates if you don't have insurance. and even with insurance the rates are negotiated by insurance companies.
so much crap people believe. Facebook is not a reliable source of news.
semp
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You're assuming they were in intensive care. The point is there was incentive to list death with covid as death by covid. Of course there were a lot of actual covid deaths but the final number will be inflated. It's the nature of perverse incentives.
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You're assuming they were in intensive care. The point is there was incentive to list death with covid as death by covid. Of course there were a lot of actual covid deaths but the final number will be inflated. It's the nature of perverse incentives.
Seems like a perverse incentive would be more like a 'news' channel arguing that a deadly virus is fake because it wants to hold onto a certain base that heard someone they adore claim such.
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The lab leak theory is generally accepted now.
The experts have admitted lying and promoting personal agendas.
The effect of the lockdowns look to have been a disaster everywhere.
The notion that the vax will prevent disease or contagion is obviously false.
Not to mention that the "science" could not even be questioned. Science is all about asking questions - but we were lied to and anyone who raised questions was shut down.
They absolutely lied to us. Told us the vaccines were 99 percent effective and then ruined people's lives by trying to force people to take the experimental vaccine that didn't even work. They're still doing it. Trying to vaccinate infants.
They shut down the country, screwed people out of their livelihoods and crashed the economy over a coronavirus that had over a 97 percent survival rate.
They arrested people for just walking in a park or at a beach.
And some of these clowns here support all of it without question and call it all science.
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Not to mention that the "science" could not even be questioned. Science is all about asking questions ...
Science is indeed all about asking questions. But its not about making up your own answers to those questions because you feel something.
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:rofl
Whose “science”?
World Health Organization (W.H.O.) Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus took the “unprecedented” measure this weekend of ignoring the agency’s special advisory committee to declare the spread of monkeypox a “public health emergency of international concern” – despite his lack of medical background and his own admission that the risk of it spreading was “moderate” at worst.
The special advisory committee, which Tedros is not mandated to obey but expected to listen to, concluded last month that the spread of monkeypox globally did not yet rise to the title of global emergency. Its 15 members similarly concluded by majority this week that the situation remained the same – nine panel members opposed using the label PHEIC while six supported it, according to Reuters.
Reuters bizarrely described Tedros overriding the panel to declare a global emergency a “tie-breaker,” despite nine versus six not being a tie. Tedros himself described the situation as such, claiming he “had to act as a tie-breaker” on Saturday — revealing the news wire as a mere stenographer to his spin.
Science magazine observed, citing health experts, that Tedros’ declaration was the first of its kind in the history of the World Health Organization, a United Nations agency.
“This is big, unprecedented decision-making by the director general,” Clare Wenham, a global health expert at the London School of Economics, told Science. The PHEIC system has existed for 17 years
He acknowledged the evidence that the disease appeared to be spreading within a singular community and used it to pressure governments to “work closely with communities of men who have sex with men, to design and deliver effective information and services, and to adopt measures that protect the health, human rights and dignity of affected communities.”
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Hospitals charge folks for treatment.
If they have insurance, the hospital gets paid.
If they are uninsured, the hospital often doesn't get paid.
Except if the patient had Covid.
In that case ( https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ ), for Medicare patients, hospitals got 1.2x usual.
For uninsured, the hospital got 1.2xMedicare instead of zero.
Typical reimbursement for Covid was about $13k, and if a ventilator was used, about $35k.
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The covid vaccine has been proven to alter DNA in the lad using cancer cells. Within six hours.
Another lie.
This is under study at the moment. It's possible that these MRNA vaccines are able to permanently alter the human gnome.
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Hospitals charge folks for treatment.
If they have insurance, the hospital gets paid.
If they are uninsured, the hospital often doesn't get paid.
Except if the patient had Covid.
In that case ( https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/ ), for Medicare patients, hospitals got 1.2x usual.
For uninsured, the hospital got 1.2xMedicare instead of zero.
Typical reimbursement for Covid was about $13k, and if a ventilator was used, about $35k.
Brooke read your own link it debunks what you are trying to omply.
aemp
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The covid vaccine has been proven to alter DNA in the lad using cancer cells. Within six hours.
Another lie.
This is under study at the moment. It's possible that these MRNA vaccines are able to permanently alter the human gnome.
So :( .
Lots of gum flapping but no link given.
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The covid vaccine has been proven to alter DNA in the lad using cancer cells. Within six hours.
Another lie.
This is under study at the moment. It's possible that these MRNA vaccines are able to permanently alter the human gnome.
this is true my dingdong went from 3 inches to 3.2. thinking of making porn videos.
changing dna, how can I even argue with that. did the vaccine also made me handsome?
semp
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Not to mention that the "science" could not even be questioned. Science is all about asking questions - but we were lied to and anyone who raised questions was shut down.
They absolutely lied to us. Told us the vaccines were 99 percent effective and then ruined people's lives by trying to force people to take the experimental vaccine that didn't even work. They're still doing it. Trying to vaccinate infants.
They shut down the country, screwed people out of their livelihoods and crashed the economy over a coronavirus that had over a 97 percent survival rate.
They arrested people for just walking in a park or at a beach.
And some of these clowns here support all of it without question and call it all science.
How hard is it to understand that if the covid was allowed to run wild that the world would be in a much worse place than it is today. There would be MANY more dead people and MANY more businesses shut down/out of business.
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this is true my dingdong went from 3 inches to 3.2. thinking of making porn videos.
changing dna, how can I even argue with that. did the vaccine also made me handsome?
semp
Gina could have saved money by taking the vaccine instead of having operations.
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Your masters have you hook line and sinker.
The Education and Medical professions reputation is in the gutter.
Teachers making children wear masks when it was virtually impossible for them to die or have serious symptoms.
What did they say? “We were only following orders” heard that before somewhere.
The teachers in the UK threatened to go on strike this year for a pay rise , they were off work for nearly two years on full pay :rofl
That’s your liberal academic.
The Chinese won without dropping a bomb.
You lot invaded Russia yet?
Did not think so.
Why is that then?
Don Lemon will save the Ukrainians
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you accepted as fact that vax changes dna. it doesn't, it's impossible for it to happen, then mention a fact that it changes the human genome. can you explain to me how I'm different than before I took the 4 vaccines. can you point to a single person that turned into somebody different?
you acuse us of being lied to when you yourself spread lies. our should I call it misinformation.
semp
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What I said is that it has been proven to alter the DNA of human liver cancer cells in a lab. Further steady is being undertaken at the moment to see if it's possible that it alters the human genome.
You can look it up yourself. It's a sweetest study and it's a medical study. It's actual science.
And as usual you are incorrect. I never claimed that it is fact that it alters The human genome. I said that studies are ongoing.
But what they found so far is that the MRNA messenger does indeed alter the liver cells DNA when it was not supposed to do that at all.
You can choose to be ignorant if you would like. I don't care really. You can choose to think this is political, and again I don't really care. You can bury your head in the sand and just trust what the government is telling you. That's fine with me. Why should I care?
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What I said is that it has been proven to alter the DNA of human liver cancer cells in a lab. Further steady is being undertaken at the moment to see if it's possible that it alters the human genome.
You can look it up yourself. It's a sweetest study and it's a medical study. It's actual science.
And as usual you are incorrect. I never claimed that it is fact that it alters The human genome. I said that studies are ongoing.
But what they found so far is that the MRNA messenger does indeed alter the liver cells DNA when it was not supposed to do that at all.
You can choose to be ignorant if you would like. I don't care really. You can choose to think this is political, and again I don't really care. You can bury your head in the sand and just trust what the government is telling you. That's fine with me. Why should I care?
I can piss in a cup and it will change liver cancer cells in a lab. it will also kill hiv, cancer cells, covid and about every human desease you can think of.
semp
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But the majority of Americans are overweight?
:rofl
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I can piss in a cup and it will change liver cancer cells in a lab. it will also kill hiv, cancer cells, covid and about every human desease you can think of.
semp
You didn't read the study. Or hear about the study. The MRNa created a response that changed the DNA of the cells within 6 hours. It encoded itself in the DNA of the cells. That is in a lab setting. They are currently studying this because there's a possibility that this is what happens in the human body. That the human genome could possibly be altered..
These are scientists that released these studies. Go ahead and argue against science.
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You didn't read the study. Or hear about the study. The MRNa created a response that changed the DNA of the cells within 6 hours. It encoded itself in the DNA of the cells. That is in a lab setting. They are currently studying this because there's a possibility that this is what happens in the human body. That the human genome could possibly be altered..
These are scientists that released these studies. Go ahead and argue against science.
you don't understand in a lab piss will kill most viruses. the problem is getting enough piss in your blood stream without killing you.
semp
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is this the study you claim? been debunked many times.
https://apnews.com/article/Fact-Check-COVID-Vaccine-Sweden-Study-986569377766
semp
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you don't understand in a lab piss will kill most viruses. the problem is getting enough piss in your blood stream without killing you.
semp
I knew a woman in Amsterdam who could have helped in said depravity :old:
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No it's not been debunked. You are reading the articles incorrectly. And they are purposely writing them in that manner and saying it was debunked, but it's not debunked. It's a fact that it altered the DNA of the liver cells in the lab.
What they are saying is debunked is that it alters the human genome. The study never said that. It said that they are testing that.
So to get out in front of this these articles are saying that the study has been debunked. Absolutely not true.
You can make up your own mind. You can be ignorant or not. You can read or you can not read.
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I am awesome
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No it's not been debunked. You are reading the articles incorrectly. And they are purposely writing them in that manner and saying it was debunked, but it's not debunked. It's a fact that it altered the DNA of the liver cells in the lab.
What they are saying is debunked is that it alters the human genome. The study never said that. It said that they are testing that.
So to get out in front of this these articles are saying that the study has been debunked. Absolutely not true.
You can make up your own mind. You can be ignorant or not. You can read or you can not read.
well I'm vaxx, you think my doctor which just did a physical including lab would tell me I'm dying. I had my first shot in March if last year, my mom had hers almost as soon as it came out. in a lab it took 6 hours, you think by now we would have some scary results.
explain that. while I go to waste my awesome urine that can kills most diseases in a lab.
semp
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I agree you wee is the new poo
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But the majority of Americans are overweight?
:rofl
At least...probably obese
Still like watching ppl wear masks outside and or with them below their noses....totally disregard to the fact most masks ppl wore offered no protection regardless of how they wore them
Eagler
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I see people that are in a car by themselves that are wearing one of those blue masks. It says right on the box of those that it offers no protection against covid, besides wearing it inside a car alone is completely absurd. But I guess the scared sheeple that were told by the government to live in fear over the chinese flu will continue to do
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I see people that are in a car by themselves that are wearing one of those blue masks. It says right on the box of those that it offers no protection against covid, besides wearing it inside a car alone is completely absurd. But I guess the scared sheeple that were told by the government to live in fear over the chinese flu will continue to do
Mission accomplished end quote repeat line
Eagler
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DmonSlayer for the win.
"Less than a hundred dead total. Whole thing over by end of March."
Strange how it all started in this man's backyard huh. Why didn't they stop it there?
(https://i.ibb.co/Q86b4bW/Rm-Ggd2m-Qpxbj.png)
The virus was manipulated in a lab, he funded that manipulation and research with the NIH.
What did Dr. Charles Lieber of Harvard really do?
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
Sick sick people we are dealing with here.