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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Peanut1 on August 09, 2022, 01:21:58 AM
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I own 25 acres and farm about 16 of it. We are lucky enought to be in an area of our county with limited organic,sustainable healthy food options and that leads to me being able to sell anything and everything I grow by 2pm each day. I have a regular NON customer that likes to arrive when she knows I am typically very busy doing my rounds irrigating various different row crops and hugelculture beds. She has stolen well over 2000$ of produce in the period of 2 years. I have confronted her many times, got her on video stealing and reported to the police on numerous occasions. (Liberal police departments don't care about things that don't make them money.) 3 days ago I got arrested for taking her back window out with a pellet rifle and essentially got out with a mean fine and further court date. What would you do?
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Leave the very blue state of WA for your neighbor Idaho.
Since (I assume) that’s not an option hire someone who can help out with other things but is also there to provide security and is authorized by your state/local laws to use whatever force necessary to stop robbery/burglary.
Restraining order if you don’t have one already and a no trespassing sign.
Those are things that work quite well in red states where law(s) is still respected.
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3 days ago I got arrested for taking her back window out with a pellet rifle and essentially got out with a mean fine and further court date. What would you do?
You have the "Right to remain silent", anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
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Get a 22 and a lawyer and aim at her tires next time or just take it in the shorts as a cost of business
Eagler
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Small claims court is a better option than assault but it takes time.
A high power pellet gun is legally considered a deadly weapon, those are charges you don't want.
A large sign with the person's name explaining why they are not welcome on your property might help.
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Has she stopped stealing?
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Restraining order if you don’t have one already and a no trespassing sign.
This is what I would do - if local LEO doesn't want to do anything, make them do something.
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Restraining order is a good idea.
Put a picture of her and her vehicle up at the stand with a note about her actions. Maybe shaming her will help. Ask other customers to alert you if they see her at the stand.
People are mostly good people and most people really hate dishonest people and thieves - especially at a place like yours that operates on the honor system. That's lower than low.
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Since you shot her window out, you are now the bad guy for protecting your property she stole, not her being the bad guy for stealing your property.
Not sell for a week, but put a pic of her, her vehicle, and he license plate up and explain why she is the sole reason you are taking a break because she is stealing you blind. Public shaming to the max.
Restraining order and try to press charges for theft. If local PD dont want to do help, go to county, then state. If all PD dont do anything, go to the media and let it be known. Not facebook, but newspaper or tv. If its a slow day and it s a sob story on your half they may write on it
If you have her on video for stealing, take her to court and sue
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Friend of mine caught someone stealing from his yard.
Don’t remember anyone else stopping them
It was stopped though
The fact that people expect someone else to sort out this sort of issue is odd
Some drug addled pot heads stole his mothers flowers from her garden once.
The aforementioned pot heads left town shortly after.
Where I live you keep away from the servants of the state.
In the UK you can arrested for being rude on the internet though :rofl
I got banned from youtube for being abusive to the socialist workers party meeting :)
Being abusive is stating facts :rofl
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You got arrested for a misdemeanor for breaking her window with a bb gun. If you follow the stupid advice about using a 22 on her tires you likely will become a felon. If you try to make a "citizen's arrest, keep in mind there are laws that could be used against you on counter charges. Video is a strong tool to combat that but also keep in mind how much you could lose in court costs to defend a spurious charge.
Small claims court is your best bet and make sure you have the video to back your claims. File a lien on her car and if she has any real property that as well. You will need the services of a lawyer t advise you how to do that.
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Friend of mine caught someone stealing from his yard.
Don’t remember anyone else stopping them
It was stopped though
The fact that people expect someone else to sort out this sort of issue is odd
Some drug addled pot heads stole his mothers flowers from her garden once.
The aforementioned pot heads left town shortly after.
Where I live you keep away from the servants of the state.
In the UK you can arrested for being rude on the internet though :rofl
I got banned from youtube for being abusive to the socialist workers party meeting :)
Being abusive is stating facts :rofl
I had a neighbor who refused to keep his dogs on his property. He got one warning after I caught said dogs chasing my livestock. Next, I caught said dogs killing livestock. Needless to say, dogs were shot on sight. The sheriffs office was called, and the dog owner was charged with "having dogs running at large". Next came small claims court and I recouped my loss.
Get caught screwing around in the wrong holler here, and you'll regret your poor life decisions.
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You got arrested for a misdemeanor for breaking her window with a bb gun. If you follow the stupid advice about using a 22 on her tires you likely will become a felon. If you try to make a "citizen's arrest, keep in mind there are laws that could be used against you on counter charges. Video is a strong tool to combat that but also keep in mind how much you could lose in court costs to defend a spurious charge.
Small claims court is your best bet and make sure you have the video to back your claims. File a lien on her car and if she has any real property that as well. You will need the services of a lawyer t advise you how to do that.
/s on 22 to tires
There you go lol...some need additional clarification
Eagler
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I had a neighbor who refused to keep his dogs on his property. He got one warning after I caught said dogs chasing my livestock. Next, I caught said dogs killing livestock. Needless to say, dogs were shot on sight. The sheriffs office was called, and the dog owner was charged with "having dogs running at large". Next came small claims court and I recouped my loss.
Get caught screwing around in the wrong holler here, and you'll regret your poor life decisions.
The rule here, one dog ok... multiple dogs and you take them out. Their pack mentality will bring down a yearling.
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The rule here, one dog ok... multiple dogs and you take them out. Their pack mentality will bring down a yearling.
They will run a calf until it collapses and kill it for fun.
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I had a neighbor who refused to keep his dogs on his property. He got one warning after I caught said dogs chasing my livestock. Next, I caught said dogs killing livestock. Needless to say, dogs were shot on sight. The sheriffs office was called, and the dog owner was charged with "having dogs running at large". Next came small claims court and I recouped my loss.
Get caught screwing around in the wrong holler here, and you'll regret your poor life decisions.
big difference between protecting livestock from dogs and tomatoes from a thief.
semp
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If you shot a dog where I live the SWAT would show up. Poison works better
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big difference between protecting livestock from dogs and tomatoes from a thief.
semp
Get caught screwing around in the wrong holler here, and you'll regret your poor life decisions.
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OK Rambo.
semp
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OK Rambo.
semp
Nothing to do with me... some of these hillbillies take their property/privacy very seriously. You drive up the wrong gravel road, you can be in a world of hurt. So you do you.
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OK Rambo.
semp
You will find that most Americans do not support crime.
Here in Texas, if you steal somethig after dark.... all bets are off.
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You will find that most Americans do not support crime.
Here in Texas, if you steal somethig after dark.... all bets are off.
They should modify that to include 24/7
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It's times like these that you find out... The police are not your friend and the judicial industry is not going to help you; your best option is to avoid contact at all cost. I don't know why anyone would want to make a living dealing with the public today.
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You will find that most Americans do not support crime.
Here in Texas, if you steal somethig after dark.... all bets are off.
there's crimes and there's crimes. some bad advice given on this thread.
what you would do and what happens in difference parts of the country doesn't matter.
what matters is what he did and hopefully only costs him money. do I think it's OK for the lady to steal from him, he'll no. think she deserves a good slap. on the other hand that would be a bad thing to do.
semp
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there's crimes and there's crimes. some bad advice given on this thread.
what you would do and what happens in difference parts of the country doesn't matter.
what matters is what he did and hopefully only costs him money. do I think it's OK for the lady to steal from him, he'll no. think she deserves a good slap. on the other hand that would be a bad thing to do.
semp
In Texas you are allowed to shoot someone to protect your property in the following circumstances -
Under Penal Code 9.42, deadly force may be used to protect land or property when a person reasonably believes that deadly force is immediately necessary to:
prevent arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft at night, or criminal mischief during nighttime;
prevent someone fleeing with property after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime.
However, the person must also be able to show that he reasonably believed that the land or property could not be protected or recovered by any other means or that the use of non-deadly force would expose him or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
So if the OP lived in Texas and this lady was stealing his products and it was after dark, he could most likely legally shoot and kill her.
Would I do that? No way.
The only time I'd shoot someone is if I didn't have any other options to protect myself or someone else - and then I would not like that I had to do it.
If I were the OP, I'd try to find out why that lady was stealing. That may sound dumb, but I would tell her if she really needed the food that I would have a box for her when she needed it. You never know why someone might be stealing food. I know it's not acceptable to steal, but for me personally, I'd first approach her and try to be compassionate. If she's just a thief and an idiot, I'd be putting her photo up and I'd get her arrested the next time she came onto my property.
Shooting her window with a BB gun is not a smart move - just because now it comes back on you. Not worth it.
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You will find that most Americans do not support crime.
Here in Texas, if you steal somethig after dark.... all bets are off.
After dark? When did that change? I didn't get the memo. ;)
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Restraining order.. won't get you toejam for the 2k already stolen, but it will fix future problems of keeping a dirtbag off your property.
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In Texas you are allowed to shoot someone to protect your property in the following circumstances -
Under Penal Code 9.42, deadly force may be used to protect land or property when a person reasonably believes that deadly force is immediately necessary to:
prevent arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft at night, or criminal mischief during nighttime;
prevent someone fleeing with property after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime.
However, the person must also be able to show that he reasonably believed that the land or property could not be protected or recovered by any other means or that the use of non-deadly force would expose him or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
So if the OP lived in Texas and this lady was stealing his products and it was after dark, he could most likely legally shoot and kill her.
Would I do that? No way.
The only time I'd shoot someone is if I didn't have any other options to protect myself or someone else - and then I would not like that I had to do it.
If I were the OP, I'd try to find out why that lady was stealing. That may sound dumb, but I would tell her if she really needed the food that I would have a box for her when she needed it. You never know why someone might be stealing food. I know it's not acceptable to steal, but for me personally, I'd first approach her and try to be compassionate. If she's just a thief and an idiot, I'd be putting her photo up and I'd get her arrested the next time she came onto my property.
Shooting her window with a BB gun is not a smart move - just because now it comes back on you. Not worth it.
Live in Texas and I concur. Unless the miscreant in question is an obvious direct threat to me, someone weaker than them, or an animal, I'm just letting the cops deal with it. Now granted most of the time local LEO is a joke but you can be a big enough pain in the bellybutton to get them to pay attention and, like others have said, put her pic up around the property and state clearly 'not welcome here'.
That said I did like the idea about trying to talk to her. If she's really on hard enough times to steal maybe work out some kind of barter system with her.
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"barter" system :bolt: :rofl
(https://pics.me.me/hulk-help-you-now-you-help-hulk-thats-how-barter-45193741.png)
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Small claims court is your best bet and make sure you have the video to back your claims. File a lien on her car and if she has any real property that as well. You will need the services of a lawyer t advise you how to do that.
So far as I know, in most states there is a right to appeal a small claims court judgment to the general trial court. At that point you need a lawyer, and at that point you'll probably discover that it isn't easy to find a lawyer for the stakes involved here.
Not a lot of good options here, short of having a friend or family member there to follow her around when she shows up.
- oldman
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"barter" system :bolt: :rofl
(https://pics.me.me/hulk-help-you-now-you-help-hulk-thats-how-barter-45193741.png)
I like this! I'm more of a Shrek though. Fat, ugly, stupid and incredibly friendly.
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big difference between protecting livestock from dogs and tomatoes from a thief.
semp
There is the problem right there.
The liberal
Theft is theft
If you stole 60 years ago you were shunned
Now there is always a excuse
If you steal in China or India you get retribution
Maybe because they have self respect for the law
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In Texas you are allowed to shoot someone to protect your property in the following circumstances -
Under Penal Code 9.42, deadly force may be used to protect land or property when a person reasonably believes that deadly force is immediately necessary to:
prevent arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft at night, or criminal mischief during nighttime;
prevent someone fleeing with property after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime.
However, the person must also be able to show that he reasonably believed that the land or property could not be protected or recovered by any other means or that the use of non-deadly force would expose him or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
So if the OP lived in Texas and this lady was stealing his products and it was after dark, he could most likely legally shoot and kill her.
Would I do that? No way.
The only time I'd shoot someone is if I didn't have any other options to protect myself or someone else - and then I would not like that I had to do it.
If I were the OP, I'd try to find out why that lady was stealing. That may sound dumb, but I would tell her if she really needed the food that I would have a box for her when she needed it. You never know why someone might be stealing food. I know it's not acceptable to steal, but for me personally, I'd first approach her and try to be compassionate. If she's just a thief and an idiot, I'd be putting her photo up and I'd get her arrested the next time she came onto my property.
Shooting her window with a BB gun is not a smart move - just because now it comes back on you. Not worth it.
The whole idea with after dark is that you can't see if the turd is armed or not. You have to assume they are. You also can't tell what else they took other than what you saw.
There are those who do nothing and the criminal gets imbolden. If they were the only ones that were victims of crimes, that would be fine. The problem is only when innocent folks become victims.
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Zack hit the nail on the head..theft is theft
But somehow there are acceptable degrees of it..to many
From stealing software and songs to using your parents and friends streaming account
Any theft creates negative karma which results in a less than good time in the future..
Sad some think its ok..even heard its considered a form of retributions by some for some..we owe them something for what happened 200 years ago...crooks of all shapes sizes and colors..
Eagler
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Zack hit the nail on the head..theft is theft
But somehow there are acceptable degrees of it..to many
From stealing software and songs to using your parents and friends streaming account
Any theft creates negative karma which results in a less than good time in the future..
Sad some think its ok..even heard its considered a form of retributions by some for some..we owe them something for what happened 200 years ago...crooks of all shapes sizes and colors..
Eagler
And some think of retribution for what happened a couple of years ago.
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And some think of retribution for what happened a couple of years ago.
Yes some of the floyd rioters are quoted stating their looting is payback from slavery and businesses should be ok with it as insurance will cover it...
Crazy arse thinking ...
Eagler
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Yes some of the floyd rioters are quoted stating their looting is payback from slavery and businesses should be ok with it as insurance will cover it...
Crazy arse thinking ...
Eagler
That logic boggles the mind but would be minor compared to what could happen in a couple of years.
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As state DA's pledge not to charge certain crimes or politicians bailing out criminals to go and produce additional crimes what does one think will happen with crimes like theft? (WTG Florida!)
Videos on yt show some very ballsy crimes mainly in CA that would get ones head blown off if tried anywhere around here
Eagler
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As state DA's pledge not to charge certain crimes or politicians bailing out criminals to go and produce additional crimes what does one think will happen with crimes like theft? (WTG Florida!)
Videos on yt show some very ballsy crimes mainly in CA that would get ones head blown off if tried anywhere around here
Eagler
you mean like the 3 guys that in the south the Sheriff refused to charge and now have I believe life sentences in state and federal court?
be for real, crime happens in every state.
semp
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you mean like the 3 guys that in the south the Sheriff refused to charge and now have I believe life sentences in state and federal court?
be for real, crime happens in every state.
semp
Can someone decipher this, please?
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Blah blah blah...
Semp :rock
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Can someone decipher this, please?
dude if you gonna insult or question facts, do it in style or at least a funny way.
not, well you have a bad hair day.
semp
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dude if you gonna insult or question facts, do it in style or at least a funny way.
not, well you have a bad hair day.
semp
Semp, face it. It's clear you are a clueless skewed alt leftist.. you are nearly as dumb as far right hillbilly. Maybe just quit blabbering.
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Peanuts hath spoken. :)
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Semp, face it. It's clear you are a clueless skewed alt leftist.. you are nearly as dumb as far right hillbilly. Maybe just quit blabbering.
how exactly am I clueless. the fact that I laugh when people say stupid crap. like if you go to this place you'll get shot, here we have blocks that I don't even dare drive thru.
you guys always whining about california but ignore the fact that in your own state some crimes also don't get prosecuted and there just as many crimes beginning with Texas. and all thru the south.
every state blue or red has crimes. and sadly some don't get prosecuted.
semp
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Peanuts hath spoken. :)
maybe I should quit and post a sad story about it.
semp
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maybe I should quit and post a sad story about it.
semp
Nah. It's funny. There's an ilk that rant about things not getting done then they rant about the things getting done not being the things being done that anyone wants done (in spite of the majority that really kinda likes those things) and it's the end of the world. Noise.
I think that those that cry about that stuff everywhere from quilting bees to online game forums aren't the champions they think they are and are just scared about things they don't understand. :)
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Semp, face it. It's clear you are a clueless skewed alt leftist.. you are nearly as dumb as far right hillbilly. Maybe just quit blabbering.
It's an honest question. I have no idea what you are talking about.
you mean like the 3 guys that in the south the Sheriff refused to charge and now have I believe life sentences in state and federal court?
be for real, crime happens in every state.
semp
1. the south is a big place or it could be the south part of some city?
2. what 3 guys?
I mean, I am not a mind reader. What are you refrancing?
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It's an honest question. I have no idea what you are talking about.
1. the south is a big place or it could be the south part of some city?
2. what 3 guys?
I mean, I am not a mind reader. What are you refrancing?
I know you aren't from around here so I'll explain.
when we say the south, we mean the south pole. btw you know how to tell when you are exactly at the south pole? you take one step and the south wind becomes the north wind.
glad I could help you. stick around for more about more lessons in geology.
semp
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He is just being his typical Bronk self. He knows it is the the 3 guys, father, son and neighbour from Georgia.
South typically refers to the Confederate States.
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I know you aren't from around here so I'll explain.
when we say the south, we mean the south pole. btw you know how to tell when you are exactly at the south pole? you take one step and the south wind becomes the north wind.
glad I could help you. stick around for more about more lessons in geology.
semp
So you made up some story and just tossed it out there?
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I know you aren't from around here so I'll explain.
when we say the south, we mean the south pole. btw you know how to tell when you are exactly at the south pole? you take one step and the south wind becomes the north wind.
glad I could help you. stick around for more about more lessons in geology.
semp
So you made up a story for no reason?
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He is just being his typical Bronk self. He knows it is the the 3 guys, father, son and neighbour from Georgia.
South typically refers to the Confederate States.
No, I had no idea what he was referring to. Thanks for the decipher, though... I guess.
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No, I had no idea what he was referring to. Thanks for the decipher, though... I guess.
Isn't the son a cousin of yours?
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So you made up a story for no reason?
what made up story, you don't think there's redneck penguins?
semp