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Title: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 04, 2022, 02:00:08 PM
PBS Nova had an interesting program last night about how the alphabet originated. "A to Z: The First Alphabet"

Did you know that the letter 'A' originated from the Egyptian bull symbol.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: -gg- on September 04, 2022, 02:24:12 PM
Was it hosted by big bird?
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 04, 2022, 02:27:27 PM
Was it hosted by big bird?

You should watch to help alleviate your ignorance. :)
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Gogolinius on September 04, 2022, 02:44:36 PM
You should watch to help alleviate your ignorance. :)

10% substance, 90% bickering and mud-slinging. It's like one of those shows on netflix about selling high end real-estate in LA. Most of the time and energy is spent on toejam-talking.

The O'Club should be monetized somehow. Maybe in the form of a cartoon.

Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: -gg- on September 04, 2022, 02:52:33 PM
Is this the show that you saw?

Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: sparky127 on September 04, 2022, 02:59:07 PM
10% substance, 90% bickering and mud-slinging. It's like one of those shows on netflix about selling high end real-estate in LA. Most of the time and energy is spent on toejam-talking.

The O'Club should be monetized somehow. Maybe in the form of a cartoon.

I've been told there's an ignore feature.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Gogolinius on September 04, 2022, 03:01:17 PM
Why would I want to ignore the best factor?
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: guncrasher on September 04, 2022, 04:10:13 PM
must be a slow day on Mars.  or desperate to get more supporters.


semp
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: -gg- on September 04, 2022, 04:28:54 PM
Semp, don't you have anything to say about the alphabet and the subject of this thread?

What about the letter b Milo? What did Big Bird say about the letter b?
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: guncrasher on September 04, 2022, 04:53:05 PM
Semp, don't you have anything to say about the alphabet and the subject of this thread?

What about the letter b Milo? What did Big Bird say about the letter b?

well b stands for house, or beta which used to mean grocery store when combine with bull.

also it could be funny when we use it in modern times.  some people like to house about something instead of just move on.

did you know the philipino language has no f sounds?


semp
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Tig on September 04, 2022, 05:01:56 PM
Did you know that the letter 'A' originated from the Egyptian bull symbol.

So you're telling me that instead of calling BS I should be calling A?  :rofl
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: guncrasher on September 04, 2022, 05:28:36 PM
So you're telling me that instead of calling BS I should be calling A?  :rofl

actually he made a mistake.  proper translation would be ox.


semp
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Arlo on September 04, 2022, 07:36:08 PM
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 04, 2022, 08:44:11 PM
actually he made a mistake.  proper translation would be ox.

semp

An ox is a castrated bull.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 04, 2022, 08:49:20 PM
Semp, don't you have anything to say about the alphabet and the subject of this thread?

What about the letter b Milo? What did Big Bird say about the letter b?

Big Bird is your type of program. semp told you about 'B'.

This is more my type of program.

Discover how writing—and eventually printing—revolutionized the spread of information.

Writing and printing are perhaps the greatest inventions of all time, changing the course of human history through the spread of ideas. In this two-part series, NOVA explores how writing began and reveals the astonishing origins of our own alphabet. Then, researchers investigate the origins of the printing press, which kicked off the Industrial Revolution and led to swift technological advancement and the expansion of cultures.

https://www.wxxi.org/highlights/2022/08/nova-z-first-alphabet
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: guncrasher on September 04, 2022, 08:51:25 PM
An ox is a castrated bull.

yes but bulls were rare as only used to mate, while ox was used as a farm animal.


semp
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: sparky127 on September 04, 2022, 10:33:52 PM
Was that semp or MyLow in that video at 1:30?
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 04, 2022, 10:40:16 PM
Was that semp or MyLow in that video at 1:30?

Something who goes by the nick of sluggo.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Bizman on September 05, 2022, 02:07:01 AM
Big Bird is your type of program. semp told you about 'B'.

This is more my type of program.

Discover how writing—and eventually printing—revolutionized the spread of information.

Writing and printing are perhaps the greatest inventions of all time, changing the course of human history through the spread of ideas. In this two-part series, NOVA explores how writing began and reveals the astonishing origins of our own alphabet. Then, researchers investigate the origins of the printing press, which kicked off the Industrial Revolution and led to swift technological advancement and the expansion of cultures.

https://www.wxxi.org/highlights/2022/08/nova-z-first-alphabet
That's a program I'd like to watch as well!
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2022, 07:23:35 AM
 Alphabet was Russian invention, duh.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Bizman on September 05, 2022, 10:12:29 AM
Alphabet was Russian invention, duh.
That must be fake news! They don't even use it in the form as we know it! And their writing is based on Greek letters which coincidentally start by Alpha, Beta...
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: GasTeddy on September 05, 2022, 11:47:15 AM
That must be fake news! They don't even use it in the form as we know it! And their writing is based on Greek letters which coincidentally start by Alpha, Beta...
Russians use Cyrillic alphabets which were created by brothers Cyril and Methodius during the time of the First Bulgarian Empire. So those spare parts of an excavator are not Russian alphabets but have Bulgarian origin.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Bizman on September 05, 2022, 12:20:55 PM
Russians use Cyrillic alphabets which were created by brothers Cyril and Methodius during the time of the First Bulgarian Empire. So those spare parts of an excavator are not Russian alphabets but have Bulgarian origin.
Exactly. And the previous form of that was the Glacolitic Alphabet (also created by Cyril and Methodius) which in turns was based on Greek Alphabet. Apparently the Greek Alphabet didn't work too well with the Old Church Slavonic language - spoken Greek differs a lot from spoken Slavonic languages so obviously some alterations had to be done to tell the reader how to pronounce the words they read.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: CptTrips on September 05, 2022, 12:38:00 PM
I'll check that out.  I love stuff like that. 

It gives a deeper appreciation of the world around you when you learn more about the how things got the way they are.  The fact that we use the vestige of ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs in our written language today is just too awesome.

Another thing like that that intrigued me when I first learned it was the days of our week. 

We have 7 day weeks from the Babylonians who based them on the 7 celestial bodies visible to their naked eye.

(Not the Babylonian names of course)
Sun
Moon
Mars
Venus
Jupiter
Mercury
Saturn

Some of those were later Anglicized to:

Sun day  = Sunday
Moon day = Monday
Saturn day  Saturday

Others were replaced with Anglicized references to the Nordic pantheon:
Tīw's Day =  Tuesday
Woden's Day = Wednesday
Thor's Day = Thursday
Frigg's Day = Friday

A full moon cycle became a moonth or month.


Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 05, 2022, 01:14:07 PM
Alphabet was Russian invention, duh.

If you watch the program you will see that Russian alphabet, as well as Arabic,  is derived from earlier alphabet.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Meatwad on September 05, 2022, 01:32:33 PM
Russian alphabet was created so that drunk Russians would still be able to read/spell/and write
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: icepac on September 05, 2022, 02:16:33 PM
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Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2022, 02:47:49 PM
If you watch the program you will see that Russian alphabet, as well as Arabic,  is derived from earlier alphabet.
I think NOT

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Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: sparky127 on September 05, 2022, 02:53:55 PM
Well...  There's something you can Chekhov your list.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 05, 2022, 06:25:45 PM
I think NOT


Think Not what? Watch the program or the Russian alphabet.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: guncrasher on September 05, 2022, 06:39:08 PM
not naming names but in some Scandinavian countries the only vowel is y. I guess they skip some letters.  and the Russian alphabet looks like it was created in Australia, as it looks upside down.


semp
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 05, 2022, 07:10:56 PM
not naming names but in some Scandinavian countries the only vowel is y. I guess they skip some letters.  and the Russian alphabet looks like it was created in Australia, as it looks upside down.


semp

It is evolved from a preceding alphabet.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: sparky127 on September 05, 2022, 07:40:11 PM
It is evolved from a preceding alphabet.

ALL language is.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 05, 2022, 08:00:28 PM
The transcript of the program, https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/a-to-z-the-first-alphabet/
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Arlo on September 05, 2022, 08:05:22 PM
You're gonna get reported (for no good reason).  :D
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: sparky127 on September 05, 2022, 08:20:50 PM
You're gonna get reported (for no good reason).  :D

Rules are rules.  Should they be followed , or not?
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Arlo on September 05, 2022, 08:24:53 PM
Rules are rules.  Should they be followed , or not?

Report, man, report.  :D
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2022, 09:17:38 PM
Think Not what? Watch the program or the Russian alphabet.
My GOD man, did you even WATCH the show???
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: CptTrips on September 05, 2022, 09:22:29 PM
.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 05, 2022, 09:23:03 PM
My GOD man, did you even WATCH the show???

It is clear that you didn't watch the program. :)
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: bj229r on September 05, 2022, 10:13:23 PM
You must have only watched the episodes without Ensign Chekov
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: guncrasher on September 05, 2022, 10:51:41 PM
thanks Milo,  watching it now.  just to throw a bone at Gina, there was a big bird, we call it a falcon.

damn interesting show.


semp
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: GasTeddy on September 06, 2022, 12:48:32 AM
Russian alphabet was created so that drunk Russians would still be able to read/spell/and write

Well, so called Russian alphabets were created on the shores of Lake Ohrid which was on that time part of 1st Bulgarian Kingdom, as Russians were already at that time too drunk to create them by themselves.

My mother tongue uses Latin ones with Scandinavian additions and I live nowadays in Bulgaria, stone throw  from Greek border so there are several alphabets and letters available here.


Btw, just noticed I'm again under the loop of Big Brother, watched by vigilant guardians of forums moderators and no clue why. Someone has really sensitive and sore seating platform.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Bizman on September 06, 2022, 01:58:49 AM
not naming names but in some Scandinavian countries the only vowel is y. I guess they skip some letters.  and the Russian alphabet looks like it was created in Australia, as it looks upside down.


semp
I wonder which language that might be. My Swedish is almost as fluent as my English and on that basis I can read Norwegian and Danish to a degree - understanding spoken Danish is another thing! Even some Icelandic words make sense as well as Old Norse based names. They all have more than one vowel. Stricktly speaking Finland doesn't belong to Scandinavia but if you count us in, we have eight. And then there's Sami, or rather the three Sami languages spoken in all Lapland.

Speaking about pronunciation, to me it seems like English could do with the least amount of written vowels! I base that claim to the fact that a single vowel can be pronounced in several ways depending on the word - and as far as I know there's no other way to know the right pronunciation than learning by heart!
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Bizman on September 06, 2022, 02:00:11 AM
The transcript of the program, https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/a-to-z-the-first-alphabet/
Oh crap, it doesn't show here.

Yes, I know about VPN but so far I've not found it absolutely necessary.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: MiloMorai on September 06, 2022, 06:03:42 AM
Oh crap, it doesn't show here.

Yes, I know about VPN but so far I've not found it absolutely necessary.

Scroll down a bit past where the video is.

thanks Milo,  watching it now.  just to throw a bone at Gina, there was a big bird, we call it a falcon.

damn interesting show.


semp

Yes it is but some would rather spam the thread.
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: -gg- on September 06, 2022, 08:20:47 AM
come on, Milo. The Big Bird comment was pretty funny I thought.

 :D
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: Bizman on September 06, 2022, 09:14:48 AM
Scroll down a bit past where the video is.
:bhead
Title: Re: The Alphabet
Post by: AKIron on September 06, 2022, 09:41:15 AM
Was it hosted by big bird?

The Count had a pretty good series on numbers.