General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: RichardDarkwood on September 27, 2022, 08:10:23 AM
Title: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on September 27, 2022, 08:10:23 AM
If you're looking for some intense dogfighting action, or some land grabbing then look no further than Enigmas Cold War server. All historical matchups of the era. Mig-15 Vs F86, Huey Vs Hind/Mi-8, Mig19/21 Vs F5
The fights are generally clean. The excitement is very high level. There are 56 slots, and the server is usually full.
There is another version of this server in the works but with more modern equipment.
You will need SRS to communicate in the server.
So, if you're looking for some intense action then look no further.
https://youtu.be/VmdBK5mCQa4
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: fuzeman on September 27, 2022, 08:16:56 AM
No thanks.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Eagler on September 27, 2022, 09:21:29 AM
Seems the planes missing propellers :)
Eagler
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Maverick on September 27, 2022, 09:51:48 AM
SRS? Just curious, haven't seen that acronym before.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: CptTrips on September 27, 2022, 09:58:53 AM
The DCS prop planes are way more difficult than Aces High, which is probably why not many fly prop planes in DCS. That and there are " NO ICONS " and that in itself turns away a lot of people.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: CptTrips on September 27, 2022, 01:17:46 PM
The DCS prop planes are way more difficult than Aces High, which is probably why not many fly prop planes in DCS. That and there are " NO ICONS " and that in itself turns away a lot of people.
But that is a server setting right?
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: AKIron on September 27, 2022, 01:23:53 PM
Watched a video a while back on field of view as it applies to this and other games. You would need to zoom your view more than the average person does to match real life. If you do that then you can see objects in the distance much like you can in real life. Of course doing that greatly reduces your field of view and so most don't keep the view zoomed in all the time.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on September 27, 2022, 01:53:17 PM
The PvP servers I partake in have no icons. Adds to the realism of it.
I witnessed a fight between a Russian I-16 and a F-16 and the I-16 won that fight. DCS is awesome. And I will also add they Eagle Dynamics just announced several new aircraft in the last two months. I know many on these BB's complain about not getting new aircraft.
So, when any of you are ready to step up to the next level of flight simulation make sure you get the Open Beta version direct from Eagle Dynamics and not from steam. DCS has modules that you have to purchase and some of those modules are bigger than the entire aces high game by themselves. The P-47 module is 10 Gigabytes alone. The Syria map is 36 gigs.
There is an active sale right now. And for first time buys to eagle dynamics get 50% off " WHATEVER " is in the cart at the time of purchase. if you just got a DCS account and you select 10 modules you'll get those for half off.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Bixby on September 27, 2022, 02:21:31 PM
Something I do in AH3.
When I'm in a 1v1 fight, I turn icons off. It's fun. When others show up I put them back on.
Try it Mikey...you might like it. :)
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: nrshida on September 28, 2022, 12:48:04 AM
I've been trying DCS in anticipation of the inevitable. I also don't like the jets because I don't feel the extra speed or climb performance so much they just feel unwieldy.
I didn't get on at all well with the mismatch between pitch and roll until I started with stick-scaling then it's much better. The biggest PITA is having to map every control for every aeroplane and then I still couldn't work out how to drop ord for ages.
Haven't gone on any multiplayer servers yet. Want to finish my joystick project before I go further.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Eagler on September 28, 2022, 08:05:05 AM
Yep its a job to learn just one plane in dsc...109k4 here
You spend more time managing your engine/flight than you do fighting imo
AH is nice and simple for my lazy old mr magoo eyesight self
Eagler
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: bj229r on September 28, 2022, 08:14:04 AM
Hat switch ain't gonna get the job done anymore either
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on September 28, 2022, 08:14:46 AM
I've been trying DCS in anticipation of the inevitable. I also don't like the jets because I don't feel the extra speed or climb performance so much they just feel unwieldy.
You have not trialed the F-14 Tomcat sir. I assure you that you'll know you're in that particular jet. Or the A-10
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: AKIron on September 28, 2022, 09:14:16 AM
I agree with Eagler to some extent the engine failures are a curious thing to 'over-model'. In real life you'd feel vibrations, knocking, feel a roughness or hesitation on operating the throttle, all of those warning signs aren't replicated in DCS.
Look at most F1 games. They ghost out the central bar of the halo because in real life you have parallax vision. All games make concessions.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: CptTrips on September 28, 2022, 01:49:52 PM
I agree with Eagler to some extent the engine failures are a curious thing to 'over-model'. In real life you'd feel vibrations, knocking, feel a roughness or hesitation on operating the throttle, all of those warning signs aren't replicated in DCS.
Look at most F1 games. They ghost out the central bar of the halo because in real life you have parallax vision. All games make concessions.
I believe all these kinds of things are server configurable. Icons, engine management, hot start, easy start, ect. Offline, I like all those complexities. Offline I like a good study sim to dig into. But I can also see a MP server relaxing some of that just for fun. I don't know if there are server like that already, but one could be set up.
I get the purity argument. But I'm old and my eyesight is getting worse. This argument has been going on for decades, but I still maintain that with current technology limits, not having icons available leads to less realistic outcome. The icons make up for the fact that a young 20 yo fighter pilots eyes are just going to be a lot more capable to picking out small objects than old dudes eye looking into a lowish res Quest II. Icons make up for the current tech limits and the fact that most of us are don't have 20 yo fighter pilot eyesight anymore.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Eagler on September 29, 2022, 06:17:22 AM
And even with the low numbers in AH I have a much better a2a experience there than IL2 and DCS combined
Eagler
You have not been in the right server. The enigma cold war server is 100 times more exciting than aces high has ever been, in any version. Flying a helo on the deck while F5's and Mirage fighters' dogfight Mig19's and Mig21's right above you is very crazy. Fighting a Mig15 in a F86 is very exciting. The same if two Me-262's were fighting each other but times 10. and you only buy the module one time with no subscription fee.
I am simply letting you all know what you're missing out on, and I might add telling you were everyone you used to game with has gone.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: nopoop on September 29, 2022, 05:24:12 PM
Props. Not interested in jets. Any populated servers ?
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on September 29, 2022, 05:59:42 PM
Enigmas is always full and tough to get in sometimes.
Whats "full" and how big is the map/terrain?
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: AKIron on September 30, 2022, 05:17:37 PM
Looks like a 56 player limit and it's full. The Caucasus map. That's about 900 miles by 500 miles. Maybe a third of it is really usable.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on September 30, 2022, 07:32:42 PM
There are sectors laid out along the southern half of the map. The sectors where the red meets the blue is the front. There are FOB's placed along the front sector and each side must try and drop troops at the FOB locations. After a period of time the server will reset, and the front will move based on troop placements and property gained. There is usually someone in the overlord position which is very helpful.
The map can either be Caucus's or Syria. The server is full a majority of the time.
The action is insanely great.
https://youtu.be/uEBBNaLfqIs
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: CptTrips on October 01, 2022, 01:56:37 PM
Looks interesting.
Someday I will have to try it out. I like his points about Cold War and BVR. BVR just doesn't interest me. I could at least fly Hueys\hind until the Phantom comes out. ;)
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 05, 2022, 10:19:55 AM
Maybe instead of "no thanks" you should be saying "Thank you SIR! May I have another?!!"
DCS is loads of fun, in fact yesterday a buddy and I went up in F-5's and took on 4 MiG-21's several times. One devolved from a missile fight into a 3 on 2 twisty turny knife fight, and we still won! The last time we went up we really worked well as a team and those 4 MiG's died to our AIM-9P5's pretty quickly.
https://youtu.be/ehFZKHpliP0
A MiG trying to vulch a heavily defended field. (15 AAA guns on/around the field.)
https://youtu.be/z1j-damxsuk?t=218
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 05, 2022, 10:23:34 AM
The DCS prop planes are way more difficult than Aces High, which is probably why not many fly prop planes in DCS. That and there are " NO ICONS " and that in itself turns away a lot of people.
I don't turn icons off on my server (JunkYard Dawgz) because some of us have old eyes and don't see as well as we used to.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 05, 2022, 10:26:09 AM
Right now it's mid-cold war jets, A-4E, F-104G, Mirage F1 and F-5E-3 for the Blue team and MiG-15, 19, 21 and 23 for the Red team. I'll be making another mission for dubya dubya too though.
*edit* The Skyhawk and Starfighter are free mods and the Flogger is AI only atm.
*edit part deux* The F-5 is probably the easiest jet to learn and fly and I could help you out with that if you'd like.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: AKIron on October 05, 2022, 11:50:29 PM
Did he just call me an imaginary friend? :aok
Landing the F-5E. (HD still processing)
https://youtu.be/L7IKyTpngNk
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 06, 2022, 12:22:34 AM
In the current mission (which is essentially just brawling) players only have the F-5 and Mirage F1 as available rides atm and Boroda's cousins get the MiG-19 and MiG-21. Currently all aircraft are limited to a pair of IR missiles and a centerline fuel tank(?) I think. (I apologize for getting it wrong the first time.)
Start your plane, takeoff and head to an enemy base. If you kill the defenders that spawn, more will spawn, up to two times. The 4 aircraft types for each side that I mentioned earlier can spawn 1, 2 or 3 at a time. Once a random flight is chosen that same flight will respawn up to twice more if the first flight dies.
That process can be reset by leaving a rather large trigger zone and then returning to the enemy base.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 06, 2022, 12:25:16 AM
That said, what kinds of things would you like to see? Keep in mind I can set up things like Mossie raids into Normandy, B-17 raids, German air raids over southern Ang gland, ships that need sinking...land units that need eggs...tool sheds that need breakin.. ;)
I want to do these same things with the jet server and tomorrow I'll be working on a flowchart in order to get that done. I'll likely keep my imaginary friend busy helping write scripts. ;)
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 06, 2022, 12:44:30 AM
Video uploading right now, processing should be complete in 5 or 6 minutes.
https://youtu.be/AFp78qB-zjM
144 B-17Gs flying in combat box formations with P-47 escorts and Luftwaffe fighters on the prowl. (In this clip you only get to see the 109's and P-47's.)
There are FW-190D-9's and FW-190A-8's enroute to the bomber stream as well. I have .trk files of those but they only play in DCS.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: MiloMorai on October 06, 2022, 06:17:48 AM
That does look like a histrical bombeer formation.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 10, 2022, 07:31:33 PM
@Eagler
Here's a knife fight for you, F-5E-3 vs Meeg-TwennyWun.
*Edit* Heh...I forgot the dang video!!
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on October 15, 2022, 09:12:00 AM
I shot down a Mig-21 with a Huey rocket the other day. SO much fun in there.
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 15, 2022, 01:33:33 PM
I shot down a Mig-21 with a Huey rocket the other day. SO much fun in there.
Nice job!!
Mid Cold War jet combat is loads of fun and easily learned in planes like the MiG-19, MiG-21, F-5E etc etc. I'd bet dollars to donutes the Mirage F1 is loads of fun also but I have no idea on what the learning curve is like in that one yet.
Early missile combat is unreliable so it's not a matter of launching all your missiles and then going home with a bag of heads. You just might launch all your missiles and have none of them hit and have to resort to gun combat. (Oh, the horror!!! :D ) You might also hit with a missile or two and still have to resort to gun combat. ;)
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: RichardDarkwood on October 15, 2022, 03:44:24 PM
Mid Cold War jet combat is loads of fun and easily learned in planes like the MiG-19, MiG-21, F-5E etc etc. I'd bet dollars to donutes the Mirage F1 is loads of fun also but I have no idea on what the learning curve is like in that one yet.
Early missile combat is unreliable so it's not a matter of launching all your missiles and then going home with a bag of heads. You just might launch all your missiles and have none of them hit and have to resort to gun combat. (Oh, the horror!!! :D ) You might also hit with a missile or two and still have to resort to gun combat. ;)
Why don't you come in there and find out?
Title: Re: Enigmas Cold War for DCS
Post by: Elfie on October 17, 2022, 06:03:47 PM