KHARKIV, Ukraine (AP) — An explosion caused the partial collapse of a bridge linking the Crimean Peninsula with Russia on Saturday, damaging a key supply artery for the Kremlin's faltering war effort in southern Ukraine. Three people were killed in the blast, Russian authorities said.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: fuzeman on October 08, 2022, 07:38:39 AM
I prefer The Led Zeppelin’s line “Where’s that confounded bridge?”
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: Eagler on October 08, 2022, 07:43:14 AM
Whoever they tell you who blew it up right?
Eagler
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: CptTrips on October 08, 2022, 07:52:56 AM
You have the freedom to ask or look anywhere you want to ....for now
Hard for some of us not to think news is skewed as they clearly let their bias show through their reporting ... they don't even feel they have to hide it anymore
Eagler
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: fd ski on October 08, 2022, 08:51:33 AM
well, where as with North Stream 2 Ruzzkies could have done it, in this case it certainly wasn't them. This really puts them on a back foot. I wonder if we'll see some major offensive on frozen ground.... given supply situation, Ukr might be able to attack while 300,000 ruzzians are trying to stay warm.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 08, 2022, 10:02:45 AM
Given the circumstances and response I can say with a high degree of confidence that the Ukes blew the bridge and with a moderate degree of confidence say they used a VBIED but perhaps they used planted explosives and the truck happened to be there.
Unlike the pipeline where I can say with a high degree of confidence it was sabotaged but I don't know who blew it up with any degree of confidence.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: Chris79 on October 08, 2022, 12:51:44 PM
Read a thing today the pipeline was covered on concrete also, is that correct?
From memory, it was shrouded in 4 inches of concrete primarily for corrosion prevention. To say it was covered in the sense of a thick layer of armor may be misleading.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: Vulcan on October 08, 2022, 05:43:26 PM
Given the circumstances and response I can say with a high degree of confidence that the Ukes blew the bridge and with a moderate degree of confidence say they used a VBIED but perhaps they used planted explosives and the truck happened to be there.
Unlike the pipeline where I can say with a high degree of confidence it was sabotaged but I don't know who blew it up with any degree of confidence.
If you watch one of the videos you can just see a small boat come into shot underneath the bridge, it appears to be just to the right of the explosion center so may not be the source of the explosion itself - but I'd wager it was involved. It kind of looks like a catamaran, or something twin hulled.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: guncrasher on October 08, 2022, 06:02:00 PM
If you watch one of the videos you can just see a small boat come into shot underneath the bridge, it appears to be just to the right of the explosion center so may not be the source of the explosion itself - but I'd wager it was involved. It kind of looks like a catamaran, or something twin hulled.
are boats normally not seen in that part of the ocean? and why not just show a boat right over the place the explosion happened? then see it race away so as not to be damaged.
and if the boat you mentioned was involved why did it stick around. give moral support?
semp
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: Vulcan on October 09, 2022, 01:00:26 AM
are boats normally not seen in that part of the ocean? and why not just show a boat right over the place the explosion happened? then see it race away so as not to be damaged.
and if the boat you mentioned was involved why did it stick around. give moral support?
semp
The point at where the boat is quite low and a narrow gap. There are other parts of the bridge more suited for boats to pass under. It may have been the operation didn't go 100% to plan and someone pushed the big red button before they were properly clear.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: FLS on October 09, 2022, 02:24:05 PM
It looks like the roadway was blown upward causing it to disconnect and collapse on either side. The heat, pressure, and shrapnel from the explosion blew the train. I'm curious if the train was stopped there.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 09, 2022, 05:12:06 PM
The point at where the boat is quite low and a narrow gap. There are other parts of the bridge more suited for boats to pass under. It may have been the operation didn't go 100% to plan and someone pushed the big red button before they were properly clear.
I watched that video too and to be honest, it looks like a wave as much as anything else. The truck theory seems the most plausible with additional pictures that came out. The blast patterns are consistent with a shape charge directed down and to one side. The bridge sections rested on ball bearings so as long as one sectioned failed dynamically then the damage to the other sections is consistent with the truck theory.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: guncrasher on October 09, 2022, 05:17:36 PM
The point at where the boat is quite low and a narrow gap. There are other parts of the bridge more suited for boats to pass under. It may have been the operation didn't go 100% to plan and someone pushed the big red button before they were properly clear.
my bad.
semp
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 10, 2022, 06:29:58 AM
Saying it's anyone's guess how the bridge exploded at this time...
Sorta like the pipeline without a televised legitimate threat against it...
Eagler
Not really.. So far there is no reason to disbelieve that it was a truck bomb. Something else is possible but there is not factual information that discredits the truck bomb and everything we have seen so far is consistent.
In the case of the pipeline, there is a list of suspects and no direct evidence of one party or another being guilty.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 10, 2022, 10:04:06 AM
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 10, 2022, 10:25:29 AM
The shear irony of Putin who has killed tens of thousands of Uke civilians and is currently launching 100's of missiles at civilian targets today calling the damage to the bridge which is the main supply route for his military in the south "terrorism" should give even you pause.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 10, 2022, 10:31:37 AM
So why does it have to be a secret? Just come out and say you blew the bridge up.. it's war after all. I don't necessarily believe that Russia is killing civilians, unless they partake in the war Red Dawn style, which doesn't exactly make them civilians. I don't believe either side went about anything the right way, so this is just a product of what both sides created and are reaping what they have sown.
Not only that, but Ukraine hasn't been honest, which had shed a lot of doubt on their credibility. Plus they are trying to pull the world in and taking billions of US dollars in the process which could escalate the war. If Russia was going thru pulling folks out of their houses and lining them up, that would be one thing, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: MiloMorai on October 10, 2022, 10:35:52 AM
The shear irony of Putin who has killed tens of thousands of Uke civilians and is currently launching 100's of missiles at civilian targets today calling the damage to the bridge which is the main supply route for his military in the south "terrorism" should give even you pause.
LOL, exaggerate numbers much.
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 10, 2022, 10:42:14 AM
Meanwhile the same FED holds Americans hostage with the stock market while they print money for war. Gotta ask yourselves, are they really on America's side or their own?
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 10, 2022, 10:42:32 AM
Meanwhile the same FED holds Americans hostage with the stock market while they print money for war. Gotta ask yourselves, are they really on America's side or their own?
I don't know what side they are, but you are on russias side. which doesn't make you exactly on America's side.
semp
Title: Re: Who blew up the bridge?
Post by: rabbidrabbit on October 10, 2022, 11:19:04 AM