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Title: Thank you HTC
Post by: 1Cane on October 16, 2022, 06:18:59 AM
War won by Nits still on ETO Map. Flew 75 miles after war won vulched by Vinkman when ran out fuel with frame rate 2.  :banana: :banana: :banana
Strats surrounded by nme fields     WTFG
It gets better drove to Rook aaa could not destroy anything but was tracked. Hit guns with no effect hit blds the same got to say   WTFG
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: oboe on October 16, 2022, 07:52:47 AM
Might help if you posted your system specs, 1Cane.   IIRC you are using a 3-monitor setup.  Have you tried using just one monitor and resetting your game resolution to that monitor's resolution?   3 monitors requires pushing an awful lot of pixels.

My biggest frame rate hit is shadows, when I disable them I get 10+ more fps.    Also I moved the graphics sliders back toward the middle, reducing terrain detail, trees, etc.   Would be interested to see what your frame rate is like with minimum graphics settings and just one monitor.

I noticed nVidia just came out with new drivers.  If you have an nVidia card, might help to update your drivers. 

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Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: 1Cane on October 16, 2022, 07:58:25 AM
 I appreciate your input and will try a single monitor. All I can say is everything was working fine with frame rates until this map. I have AMD 7950 with 3GB. The triple cloud layer just sucks up the frame rate :bhead
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: RotBaron on October 16, 2022, 09:33:30 AM
😳

 :bolt:
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Eagler on October 16, 2022, 10:01:09 AM
I find shadows and reflections distracting at best and never enable them

Eagler
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Puma44 on October 16, 2022, 10:08:34 AM
Trying to understand why its HTC’s fault because the triple monitor can’t handle the game.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: The Fugitive on October 16, 2022, 10:26:07 AM
I appreciate your input and will try a single monitor. All I can say is everything was working fine with frame rates until this map. I have AMD 7950 with 3GB. The triple cloud layer just sucks up the frame rate :bhead

I think that may be it. This map might require just a bit more graphics card with the clouds and shadows, and add on triple monitors. I think your over taxing your system. I havent heard anyone else complaining about issues. I know I havent had any trouble, but I dont spend my limited time around the strats either.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Vraciu on October 16, 2022, 10:43:31 AM
War won by Nits still on ETO Map. Flew 75 miles after war won vulched by Vinkman when ran out fuel with frame rate 2.  :banana: :banana: :banana
Strats surrounded by nme fields     WTFG
It gets better drove to Rook aaa could not destroy anything but was tracked. Hit guns with no effect hit blds the same got to say   WTFG


Caine, classy as always.    :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: 1Cane on October 16, 2022, 11:54:23 AM
I think that may be it. This map might require just a bit more graphics card with the clouds and shadows, and add on triple monitors. I think your over taxing your system. I havent heard anyone else complaining about issues. I know I havent had any trouble, but I dont spend my limited time around the strats either.
Whiteman has complained about losing icons and poor frame rate
Bopgun has noted frame rate drop in two Posts his solution is to forego x-mass and get a new card,
My card is not even 6 months old can't afford a new card over this map
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: SPKmes on October 16, 2022, 12:34:56 PM
This has always been the balancing act that HTC has to work with....  people who won't / can't keep up with change.....  he upgrades..and by all other game standards wasn't a major upgrade... when we went to III... guys couldn't / wouldn't upgrade systems ...  toejame i think there are some who refuse to change from windows xp ....
So because he is trying to keep the OG's happy, he alienates the guys who have the meke systems because the graphics don't fit their perception...
a small change like more clouds causes systems to require a little more and this type of thing arises...and beratement occurs... you know what is going to happen.... he will probably fold to appease the crys of a few and remove the clouds which will inturn turn pull back once again on the forward motion everyone wants from this game...
Us old fellas are the problem... 
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: The Fugitive on October 16, 2022, 04:38:42 PM
Whiteman has complained about losing icons and poor frame rate
Bopgun has noted frame rate drop in two Posts his solution is to forego x-mass and get a new card,
My card is not even 6 months old can't afford a new card over this map

And I'll bet that if you check the specs on those players computer they will have weak system to. You bought a cheap card and this is the issue you will you into. My card, while being old was a top card back then. Most of my numbers, you speed, memory speed, memory ram and so on it twice what your card is.

A solution for you is to either upgrade your video card, or turn down the graphics on this map.

Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Meatwad on October 16, 2022, 07:05:37 PM
I poked around and my frame rates are at 60 looking straight up at the clouds and from various bases on the map. My card isnt exactly high tech either. If there is a certain area/base to look at them at Ill take a look and see what it says
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Oldman731 on October 16, 2022, 07:35:06 PM
This has always been the balancing act that HTC has to work with....  people who won't / can't keep up with change.....  he upgrades..and by all other game standards wasn't a major upgrade... when we went to III... guys couldn't / wouldn't upgrade systems ...  toejame i think there are some who refuse to change from windows xp ....
So because he is trying to keep the OG's happy, he alienates the guys who have the meke systems because the graphics don't fit their perception...
a small change like more clouds causes systems to require a little more and this type of thing arises...and beratement occurs... you know what is going to happen.... he will probably fold to appease the crys of a few and remove the clouds which will inturn turn pull back once again on the forward motion everyone wants from this game...
Us old fellas are the problem...


Agreed.

- oldman
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Spikes on October 16, 2022, 08:27:41 PM
So you have a 10 year old graphics card and are running a triple monitor setup? Lol.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Mongoose on October 16, 2022, 08:31:30 PM
If you think it's the map, do a little testing in the offline practice arena.  If you have the same problem in another map in the practice arena, then it is not the map.  You might even be able to test the same map offline if it is available.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: whiteman on October 17, 2022, 07:35:43 AM
Whiteman has complained about losing icons and poor frame rate
Bopgun has noted frame rate drop in two Posts his solution is to forego x-mass and get a new card,
My card is not even 6 months old can't afford a new card over this map

I lost icons but my frame rate is 144 looking at clouds and 77-95 looking at the terrain.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: whiteman on October 17, 2022, 07:37:25 AM
Double post
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: Shuffler on October 17, 2022, 09:26:37 AM
Double post

I'll see your double post and raise you a dangling participal.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: mERv on October 17, 2022, 10:22:53 PM

Caine, classy as always.    :rolleyes:
  :rofl

*Sips coffee*
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: 1Cane on October 18, 2022, 08:06:23 AM
And I'll bet that if you check the specs on those players computer they will have weak system to. You bought a cheap card and this is the issue you will you into. My card, while being old was a top card back then. Most of my numbers, you speed, memory speed, memory ram and so on it twice what your card is.

A solution for you is to either upgrade your video card, or turn down the graphics on this map.


my GPU is the HD 7950 3GB card, my CPU is a I7 -3770 these exceed the posted requirements for the game. If this is changed, please post what is now required I upgraded the motherboard approximately 6-8 months ago, since 7950 was working fine with three monitors I bought a new HD7950 GPU.

I have played DCS and the graphics are much better and had no problem with my computer or monitors. I prefer to play this game over DCS for my own reasons. I hope that the situation doesn't force a change for me.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: SIK1 on October 18, 2022, 10:49:20 AM
What's the resolution of your monitor, what are the graphics settings you are using in game?

The reason I ask, is that I moved up to a 1440p monitor several months back and that kind of forced me to upgrade my system, from a i5-6600k, gtx 1080, to a i5-12400f, 6700xt, because I would get poor frame rates in certain situations within the game with the 1440 monitor where I didn't with a 1080p monitor.

The only thing I can suggest is to turn all your graphics setting to performance, set environmental map to 0, turn off shadows, reflections, and anything else that is not required, and see how that effects your frame rates.

 :salute

Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: 1Cane on October 18, 2022, 11:53:31 AM
What's the resolution of your monitor, what are the graphics settings you are using in game?

The reason I ask, is that I moved up to a 1440p monitor several months back and that kind of forced me to upgrade my system, from a i5-6600k, gtx 1080, to a i5-12400f, 6700xt, because I would get poor frame rates in certain situations within the game with the 1440 monitor where I didn't with a 1080p monitor.

The only thing I can suggest is to turn all your graphics setting to performance, set environmental map to 0, turn off shadows, reflections, and anything else that is not required, and see how that effects your frame rates.

 :salute


1080 all settings set to minimum, environmental settings to none. On current map all settings to max , environmental to 1 and a 59-60 frame rate thank you for your help
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: TryHard on October 18, 2022, 11:59:01 AM

Strats surrounded by nme fields     WTFG


IMO this has created some of the best action I've had in aces high in a while.
Title: Re: Thank you HTC
Post by: 1Cane on October 23, 2022, 10:05:26 PM
Trying to understand why its HTC’s fault because the triple monitor can’t handle the game.

FJORDMA is the current map. I am getting a frame rate of 60 with slider set at midfield and environmental mapping set it one. This has occurred on the previous two maps also. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect the same on the E TO map. Looking forward for when the bugs are corrected