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Title: Devotion
Post by: CptTrips on January 10, 2023, 09:16:34 AM
Streamed it last night.

Not bad.  Better than Midway.

A little slow at times.  I would have edited out at least half of the shore leave stuff.

6.5/10

Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 10, 2023, 05:46:17 PM
Maybe 35% of this film was about naval aviation.

The 65% was about an African American aviator and the struggles he went through to have the right to defend his country.

Loved this film. Wish it was longer.


9.6/10
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: CptTrips on January 10, 2023, 06:17:43 PM
Maybe 35% of this film was about naval aviation.

The 65% was about an African American aviator and the struggles he went through to have the right to defend his country.

Loved this film. Wish it was longer.


9.6/10


The Audible book was great.


If it were me I would have cut 80% of the Liz Taylor stuff out and used that time to add an short vignette of the two men from their childhood.  To reveal some part of their formation and where they came from to the point they meet.  The Liz adventure was an interesting tidbit, but didn't advance the plot or the character arcs.

Very nice cinematography. 






Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Slade on January 15, 2023, 08:14:31 AM
Just saw it.  Plane-wise, features updated F4u and Bearcat.  Also, Skyraider and references the Panther jet.  There is another jet but I don't want to give away movie parts.  Good movie.  Based on a true story.  Great graphics.

Had me guessing how I'd deal with each situation, it will for you too.  Should drop flaps now etc.


Enjoy!  :aok
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: perdue3 on January 15, 2023, 08:44:07 AM
It is on the agenda tonight, looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Nefarious on January 15, 2023, 09:30:59 AM
There were some scenes that were amazing.

There were some scenes that were really bad. Like made for TV movie bad.

You can't expect every war or historical film to be on the level of Spielberg and Hanks, so overall I thought it was good. I felt it was real when it needed to be real, and some small nuances towards historical squadrons that were part of the airwing made it seem like someone at least did their homework.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: perdue3 on January 15, 2023, 10:14:06 AM
I felt it was real when it needed to be real, and some small nuances towards historical squadrons that were part of the airwing made it seem like someone at least did their homework.

This is my biggest complaint about historical films. There so many of us historians who are more than willing to help out, do research, and make sure you get it right as a director, but they do it their way. The little things piss me off so much because it is not difficult. Sometimes, it is literally a Google search away. Yet they get it wrong.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Meatwad on January 15, 2023, 10:48:12 AM
It's because profits come before historical accuracy. One of the main rules of Hollywood
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: perdue3 on January 15, 2023, 01:06:01 PM
It's because profits come before historical accuracy. One of the main rules of Hollywood

Profits come before literally everything, the main rule of capitalism.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Molsman on January 15, 2023, 10:20:49 PM
 Guess I will be watching this film this month and dam i still haven’t watched the new top gun movie yet. I am slacking really bad
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 15, 2023, 10:46:34 PM
Profits come before literally everything, the main rule of capitalism.


Well, revenues are also an indication of success/popularity. I would think it would be more beneficial and more profitable to make the movie as historical as possible given that they would want the historical community to watch it and be proud of it. I'd say it's more arrogance on their part to ignore it. In all reality actually, Hollywood, or the movie industry surrounding the mainstream, has foregone profits to push their social agenda, which hasn't really worked out well for them from a capitalistic perspective. You can see that movies without all of the social in your face innuendos like TopGun were very profitable and good for both the Industry and the audience.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Eagler on January 16, 2023, 08:16:38 AM
Saw it last night

True story kept me more interested and looking past hollywood exaggerations..

Did the mig actually t&b with the prop planes? Why?

The wife enjoyed it too

Eagler
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: perdue3 on January 16, 2023, 08:31:52 AM
I was pretty impressed with the movie, especially the flying scenes. Nothing was too far out of the realm of possibility, there were no "magical" moments like we have seen in recent aviation films, and the film was not too audacious. Very high marks from me.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Nefarious on January 16, 2023, 10:46:17 AM
I was pretty impressed with the movie, especially the flying scenes. Nothing was too far out of the realm of possibility, there were no "magical" moments like we have seen in recent aviation films, and the film was not too audacious. Very high marks from me.

Agreed. In fact the only time I cringed were in other scenes where either they ran out of CG money or just didn't seem to really care that it looked bad.

But overall I overlooked it and enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: Slade on January 16, 2023, 03:55:22 PM
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Did the mig actually t&b with the prop planes? Why?

Wondering the same thing.  I was thinking maybe it was not a Soviet pilot.  That is generally not how a plane that can fly at least 100 mph faster would fight another.  It put itself at a disadvantage.

EDIT: The setup was perfect.  We do that for each other here.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: MiloMorai on January 16, 2023, 06:09:01 PM
If you want to watch a pure 'war movie' watch a documentary.
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: RichardDarkwood on January 25, 2023, 05:06:35 AM
I was pretty impressed with the movie, especially the flying scenes. Nothing was too far out of the realm of possibility, there were no "magical" moments like we have seen in recent aviation films, and the film was not too audacious. Very high marks from me.

That Mig-15 had quite a bit of ammo
Title: Re: Devotion
Post by: perdue3 on January 25, 2023, 05:52:22 AM
If you want to watch a pure 'war movie' watch a documentary.

I never thought of this, thanks!!