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Title: trivia question
Post by: Sturm on March 16, 2001, 09:58:00 AM
Why were the Swordfish able to relatively attack the Bismarck with ease?  Answer later today.
Title: trivia question
Post by: qts on March 16, 2001, 02:13:00 PM
Because they flew so low that the guns couldn't point down far enough?

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qts
Title: trivia question
Post by: Seeker on March 16, 2001, 05:47:00 PM
True, but the Hun caught on to that, lobbed the shells on a parabolic arc and quite some success knocking them down with the splashes.
Title: trivia question
Post by: Sturm on March 16, 2001, 06:22:00 PM
its all about the tracking the germans used.
Title: trivia question
Post by: Sorrow[S=A] on March 17, 2001, 12:00:00 AM
Sturm if your referring to the mechanical tracker the AAA emplacements on the Bismark employed that is a pure fictional reason. The lead adjustor did not go low enough to aim at a plane like the swordfish but the gunners were easily capable of adjusting for this. The success was probably more due to surprise, low angle approach and mostly because they attacked on angles the bismark could bring few AAA guns to bear and released well out of the high effectivness range of those guns.
Title: trivia question
Post by: hazed- on March 20, 2001, 07:33:00 PM
because swordfish swim under the water  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Title: trivia question
Post by: Vosper on March 22, 2001, 08:19:00 PM
The Germans radar was knocked out for 2.5 hrs, and icons were turned off due to scenario rules in the Snapshot event  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Cheers
Title: trivia question
Post by: Sturm on March 23, 2001, 09:32:00 AM
10 kudo points to vosper

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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
Title: trivia question
Post by: Spooky67 on March 23, 2001, 11:17:00 AM
 
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Originally posted by Vosper:
The Germans radar was knocked out for 2.5 hrs, and icons were turned off due to scenario rules in the Snapshot event    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)

Cheers

The swordfish is overmodelled.it should be perked and anyone flying it is probably a dweeby-score-potato or something ....

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Title: trivia question
Post by: R4M on March 27, 2001, 01:34:00 PM
   
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Originally posted by Sturm:
Why were the Swordfish able to relatively attack the Bismarck with ease?  Answer later today.

1-because the Swordfish was a very slow plane, and the Bismarck's gunnery was reported to fire too ahead of the planes (their firing rangers could not track such a slow target).

 
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Originally posted by Sorrow[S=A]:
Sturm if your referring to the mechanical tracker the AAA emplacements on the Bismark employed that is a pure fictional reason. The lead adjustor did not go low enough to aim at a plane like the swordfish but the gunners were easily capable of adjusting for this. The success was probably more due to surprise, low angle approach and mostly because they attacked on angles the bismark could bring few AAA guns to bear and released well out of the high effectivness range of those guns.

The Germans did notice this on the first attack by the Swordfishes, when the Battleship was stuck by one torpedo on the midships. On that engagement the ship was firing constantly too far ahead of the planes because the low speed.

 On the second attack, the one wich jammed its rudder, the AA fire control tried to compensate for the Swordfish's low speed. But there was yet another problem....read below.


2-because the Swordfishes's fabric cover let most of the projectiles pass thru the airframe without causing fatal damage.

3-because terrible weather

4-because the Germans messed it up while building the ship and had badly calibrated optic tracking systems, IIRC 40% of the AA battery had a given tracking system and was calibrated to fire coordinated with it, and the 60% restant had a more modern, different tracking system, and its fire calibrated to fire on this system's lectures.

When the Swordfishes attacked, the Germans fired using only ONE firing solution, using the later mark rangefinders and tracking systems. In other words, 40% of Bismarck's AA gunnery won't have ever hit a toejam because it was firing at a wrong spot.

This was aknowledged even before the Bismarck started its sortie; the KM Tirpitz had only one tracking system for all the AA gunnery.

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Title: trivia question
Post by: Sturm on March 27, 2001, 01:41:00 PM
20 perk points now how do I send them out?  LOL good job though, was waiting for this answer to come about.  

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Sturm6 StaffelKapitän
JV44 Platzschutzstaffel
Airfield Defense Squadron
Title: trivia question
Post by: R4M on March 27, 2001, 01:49:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Sturm:
20 perk points now how do I send them out?  LOL good job though, was waiting for this answer to come about.  


Hummmmm.....maybe if you email HTC they will bite  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Hehehe...np on the question, the Bismarck is my favorite all-times ship, even when it was very badly designed...it simply was beautiful.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)