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Title: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 14, 2023, 03:08:11 AM
VC-8, with a mix of FM-2 and TBM aircraft, formed the composite air group of the escort carrier USS Nehenta Bay from May 1945. It's aircraft were painted in the distinctive escort carrier late war ID scheme of white blocks and yellow stripes, with the squadron's barbed spearhead emblem on the tail. VC-8 fought at Okinawa, conducting strike missions against Japanese forces on the island as well as protecting the fleet against air attack. In August 1945 this particular VC-8 FM-2 was written off when it overshot the arrestor wires and ploughed into a group of aircraft parked on the front of the flight deck.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=406750.0;attach=35988)

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=406750.0;attach=35990)
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: lyric1 on January 14, 2023, 05:07:04 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: oboe on January 14, 2023, 08:49:14 AM
That is a sharp scheme!   :aok
 
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Devil 505 on January 14, 2023, 09:45:55 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Vraciu on January 14, 2023, 10:12:36 AM
Fantastic. 
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Volron on January 14, 2023, 02:38:00 PM
Ooooo...   If there is a TBM in a similar scheme (that hasn't been done yet), would be sweet to see her done.  :x
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: whiteman on January 14, 2023, 09:41:08 PM
Great job! I’ve seen the photos of the pile up of aircraft, looks like Houston rush hour.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 15, 2023, 03:35:02 AM
Ooooo...   If there is a TBM in a similar scheme (that hasn't been done yet), would be sweet to see her done.  :x

I've already done a a TBM skin from VMTB-143 with a similar late war escort carrier scheme, although on this one both the ID stripes and blocks are white with the block areas running down the thickest part of the wing. I may skin another one but ideally to make it different from the first I'd prefer something with yellow stripes rather than white. I'll have a dig around for a photo of something suitable.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Lazerr on January 15, 2023, 12:23:03 PM
That is slick.  I don't get into a fm2 much, but when I do, I will be losing my cartoon life in this one.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: lyric1 on January 15, 2023, 10:37:18 PM
I've already done a a TBM skin from VMTB-143 with a similar late war escort carrier scheme, although on this one both the ID stripes and blocks are white with the block areas running down the thickest part of the wing. I may skin another one but ideally to make it different from the first I'd prefer something with yellow stripes rather than white. I'll have a dig around for a photo of something suitable.

A few options I have.

(https://i.imgur.com/d1KPssOh.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/DnipxrSh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/EaRt45Wh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/o6oKYVJh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Yc8P40ch.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JpN8pF0h.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rBmRE8Zh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xIqDeEqh.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JOa4XWUh.jpg)



Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 16, 2023, 03:06:06 AM
Thanks for the info Lyric1. I'm pretty sure I skinned the VC-90 TBM on the old AH1 shape. There's something about this scheme the profile artist didn't pick up on; like the tail both wingtips have two chord-wise white bands and a yellow stripe. I prefer this scheme as the white and yellow markings are painted on the top and bottom of both wings, not just on the two panels opposite the stars and bars as on every other TBM scheme I have seen so far.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: lyric1 on January 16, 2023, 04:37:15 AM
Thanks for the info Lyric1. I'm pretty sure I skinned the VC-90 TBM on the old AH1 shape. There's something about this scheme the profile artist didn't pick up on; like the tail both wingtips have two chord-wise white bands and a yellow stripe. I prefer this scheme as the white and yellow markings are painted on the top and bottom of both wings, not just on the two panels opposite the stars and bars as on every other TBM scheme I have seen so far.

I see that now in this link.

http://www.pmcn.de/English/USN%20Markings%20IV/CVE_N-W.htm
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 16, 2023, 07:33:01 AM
Thanks for the link, the VMF-213 F4U-1D shown there looked nice and I found a photo of it but the scheme turned out to be post-war unfortunately.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 17, 2023, 03:57:13 AM
Does anyone know when this type of late war escort carrier scheme was first introduced by the USN? The photos I've seen that are dated all say July or August, just wondering if it might have been mandated earlier than that.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: whiteman on January 17, 2023, 09:19:58 AM
Does anyone know when this type of late war escort carrier scheme was first introduced by the USN? The photos I've seen that are dated all say July or August, just wondering if it might have been mandated earlier than that.

I can check tonight, got a book at home that has all the carrier group markings and dates.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 17, 2023, 10:01:28 AM
That would be great Whiteman, thanks for that.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Devil 505 on January 17, 2023, 11:32:54 AM
Is it possible that the trailing stripe on the rudder is yellow?
(https://i.imgur.com/DnipxrSh.jpg)
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: whiteman on January 17, 2023, 12:14:29 PM
Is it possible that the trailing stripe on the rudder is yellow?
(https://i.imgur.com/DnipxrSh.jpg)


I'm 99% positive it's not. If i remember correctly that the tail markings were all white, the bands on the fuselage and wings were either white or yellow and single or double. The rudder markings designate the Carrier group, and the band number and color designate which CV in the group.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: whiteman on January 17, 2023, 07:42:09 PM
Does anyone know when this type of late war escort carrier scheme was first introduced by the USN? The photos I've seen that are dated all say July or August, just wondering if it might have been mandated earlier than that.

It was mandated in June 1945.

The TBM Devil attached, the tail/rudder marking is white. Now the fuselage strip is yellow according to profiles and that matches the CV marking for the USS Petrof Bay.
Title: Re: VC-8 FM-2
Post by: Greebo on January 18, 2023, 02:13:19 AM
I'm sure the VC-90 TBM's rudder is white, it looks a touch darker than the fixed stab stripe but this is likely down to lighting angles.

Thanks for the date Whiteman, it helps with my historical research on the various escort carriers for these aircraft. Based on this I have decided to skin the CVEG-24 TBM based on the USS Santee. While VC-90 was aboard the USS Petrof Bay prior to the end of the war, the ship was in transit to Pearl Harbor rather than sent into combat. The USS Santee though was stationed off Okinawa for a few weeks in July while the island was still under air attack. Also it ties in with Whiteman's VF-24 F6F-5 skin which has a similar scheme.