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Title: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: RotBaron on May 09, 2023, 10:21:40 AM
After re-arming in Ki-84 WEP doesn’t come back, is this intended?
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Lusche on May 09, 2023, 10:25:03 AM
Yes, it is. Total overall WEP time is per sortie and not influenced by rearming.
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: mERv on May 09, 2023, 10:38:23 AM
+1
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Lazerr on May 09, 2023, 11:00:02 AM
I have had planes that didn't use their full WEP cycle, reload, and it is gone afterwards.  Maybe this is what he meant more specifically.
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: RotBaron on May 09, 2023, 11:59:22 AM
To clarify, whether I use WEP 3 times or 6 times before I rearm, it’s gone after I re-arm.
I’ve waited over 10 mins after re-upping to try using it…doesn’t work.

What I notice is the temperature will be in the black/well below yellow, but when I press for WEP the temperature jumps way up into yellow/red. That temp would prevent WEP from being available.

So if it’s intended, wouldn’t that be historically inaccurate? Landing and re-arming wouldn’t make the engine run hotter. 
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: SIK1 on May 09, 2023, 12:14:19 PM
For some reason WEP is disabled after a re-arm. I always thought it was a bug.

 :salute
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Lazerr on May 09, 2023, 02:20:33 PM
I assume it's a bug.  I don't expect a reload to recharge WEP, but  it definitely shouldn't disabled it if it's available prior to reload.
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Eagler on May 09, 2023, 03:37:27 PM
You would think a refuel would reset wep back to 100%

Pretty sure it works in the 109s after refueling

Eagler
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Busher on May 09, 2023, 04:36:03 PM
Guess the crew fills the tank and guns but water meth only stored in the hangar.
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: RotBaron on May 10, 2023, 11:35:49 AM
Yes, it is. Total overall WEP time is per sortie and not influenced by rearming.

I re-armed with Ki-84, used WEP only 3 times before re-arm, took off with WEP, but gone for rest of a 17min sortie.

Re-armed with 109K and WEP was available entire sortie ~25 mins after it re-charged.

Is it perhaps plane specific?
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Eagler on May 10, 2023, 12:16:08 PM
Sounds like a defect...no reason it should be disabled after refueling if it worked b4 you refueled

As not many of us refuel, it isn't a widely experienced defect  :)

Eagler
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Lusche on May 10, 2023, 01:08:42 PM
I re-armed with Ki-84, used WEP only 3 times before re-arm, took off with WEP, but gone for rest of a 17min sortie.

Re-armed with 109K and WEP was available entire sortie ~25 mins after it re-charged.

Is it perhaps plane specific?

Ki-84 has a total WEP time of 10 minutes per sortie, the 109K-4 has 43 minutes.
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Dadtallica on May 10, 2023, 05:53:57 PM
Sounds like a defect...no reason it should be disabled after refueling if it worked b4 you refueled

As not many of us refuel, it isn't a widely experienced defect  :)

Eagler


I have to figure out how to land first.  :joystick:
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: guncrasher on May 10, 2023, 09:51:33 PM
wep was changed years ago. it was an oversight during ah2.  was fixed way back then. according to ah staff.

so no more wep on rearm for years.


semp
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: morfiend on May 11, 2023, 08:47:03 AM
For some reason WEP is disabled after a re-arm. I always thought it was a bug.

 :salute

It’s been like that since HTC implemented the rejoin sortie in flight. If you disco and rejoin in time you loose welp,rearming has the same effect.


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Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Shane on May 11, 2023, 11:24:35 AM
Is that a typo?   43 mins of wep?  :noid


Ki-84 has a total WEP time of 10 minutes per sortie, the 109K-4 has 43 minutes.
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: morfiend on May 11, 2023, 12:50:27 PM
Is that a typo?   43 mins of wep?  :noid


No it’s not but it’s total time,you still need a cool down time after 10minutes.

There’s a table of wep times on the forum,IIRC correctly that only on the 109f/g the E and K have different total times.


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Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Lusche on May 11, 2023, 01:12:11 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/myyafcp.jpeg)
Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: morfiend on May 11, 2023, 04:26:00 PM
  Thx Snail   :salute


Wasnt sure about the K4 but you’ve cleared that up.


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Title: Re: WEP doesn’t come back
Post by: Mayhem on May 11, 2023, 05:43:30 PM
You would think a refuel would reset wep back to 100%

Pretty sure it works in the 109s after refueling

Eagler

I think that depends on the type of WEP the plane uses.

The p51 just had about 10% blocked off at the top of the throttle travel and you had to pull a pin to use that last 10% and you could run it until you blow the engine .... but even below full military power you can blow the engine.

The P&W double wasp air cooled engines used water injection. Once the water is gone wep is gone.

Many of the European planes used Nitro Methane injection with the same issue that you have with water injection, once you are out of Nitro your done until you land and rearm/refuel.

However Aces High does not accurately model Wep or Engine management any way.