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Title: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 01, 2023, 11:09:25 PM
It's been building up for two weeks. They're pretty intense right now

I live 15 miles south of Los Angeles.

The fireworks are INSANE. It really does sound like a distant war zone right now, with the occasional REALLY BIG boom near me that shakes my place. I don't know what these things are, but the flash lights up the sky - and I see them on my security cameras. Actually does shake the house.

Closer to the fourth the sounds will be a continuous roar - like a never ending thunder in the distance - and explosions and whistles and pops like gunfire all over the place near me. It really is undescibable

I hear there's a 1k reward if you turn someone in.  There's no way in hell the cops can stop this. Absolutely impossible

Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: jigsaw on July 02, 2023, 01:08:33 AM
They routinely fire off mortar sized shells in my area throughout the year.  Someone once told me it was how gangs would communicate to other members or that that had a particular drug to sell.  It gets completely crazy around 7/4 and 1/1 holidays.

There is a "safe and sane" rule that allows use of fireworks here that stay on the ground.  That doesn't help.

I remember seeing a news real during the "covid lockdown"  where the whole sky over LA was lit up with illegal fireworks. It was bad enough that they issued an air quality alert from all the smoke.

Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 02, 2023, 03:00:05 AM
Where are you at, Jigsaw?

Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 02, 2023, 03:12:43 AM
I think I remember that you're in Phoenix. Could be wrong. I used to live in Phoenix. Most of my life actually.

Also, mortar is a great description of those big ones that just shake the house. I mean I don't know where they get these things cuz I don't ever see things like that at firework shows. Or maybe I do but I'm not that close to them. Lol
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: icepac on July 02, 2023, 08:09:06 AM
Bottle rockets disappearing?   
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Nefarious on July 02, 2023, 08:35:34 AM
Excuse me, I thought this was America!
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 02, 2023, 12:46:39 PM
Excuse me, I thought this was America!

Not the People's Republik of Kalifornika.


Sad thing is, some of those fleeing to TN are bringing their Bravo Sierra with them. Two of the four bigger cities are already nearly unlivable. Nashville is creeping out in all directions, too. I'll probably have to move in a few years, at the most.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Volron on July 02, 2023, 03:18:17 PM
Not the People's Republik of Commiefornia.


Sad thing is, some of those fleeing to TN are bringing their Bravo Sierra with them. Two of the four bigger cities are already nearly unlivable. Nashville is creeping out in all directions, too. I'll probably have to move in a few years, at the most.

FIXED.  :D
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 02, 2023, 04:12:25 PM
you guys are funny. look at most major cities in any state and most likely only allow same fireworks as counties and cities in California.

semp

Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 02, 2023, 05:10:44 PM
you guys are funny. look at most major cities in any state and most likely only allow same fireworks as counties and cities in California.

semp

And that makes it a good decision? Or a just one?

"When we become piled upon one another in cities as they are in Europe, we shall be as corrupt as they are." ------ Thomas Jefferson


When I was a kid, this was a free country......
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: nopoop on July 02, 2023, 05:35:46 PM
Where I used to live it was a war zone in the air. Just south of SF. Loved it, miss it
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: GasTeddy on July 02, 2023, 05:58:20 PM
Rain would help but... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmq4WIjQxp0)
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 02, 2023, 06:21:58 PM
And that makes it a good decision? Or a just one?

"When we become piled upon one another in cities as they are in Europe, we shall be as corrupt as they are." ------ Thomas Jefferson


When I was a kid, this was a free country......


when I was a kid houses burned just as easy with the same fireworks.

and since when is not lighting fireworks an infringment upon liberty.  tell me when Jefferson said that.

perhaps paul revere and amigos should have light up some fireworks to warn the regulars were coming.


semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Nefarious on July 02, 2023, 06:44:50 PM
you guys are funny. look at most major cities in any state and most likely only allow same fireworks as counties and cities in California.

semp

West Virginia has been 100% legal fireworks for over 10 years. I'm guessing commercial display companies are required to have permitting, but you can buy mortars and rockets that are almost as good anywhere in city limits.

Now, my city (15K) does have ordinances on usage and type but generally are not enforced. I can ask my police chief how many citations are written a year, but I can't imagine its many.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 02, 2023, 06:48:40 PM
West Virginia has been 100% legal fireworks for over 10 years. I'm guessing commercial display companies are required to have permitting, but you can buy mortars and rockets that are almost as good anywhere in city limits.

Now, my city (15K) does have ordinances on usage and type but generally are not enforced. I can ask my police chief how many citations are written a year, but I can't imagine its many.


same as the cities around here. they go after those that sell them illegally but for rest of us unless there's a complain nothing.


semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 02, 2023, 07:14:42 PM

when I was a kid houses burned just as easy with the same fireworks.

and since when is not lighting fireworks an infringment upon liberty.  tell me when Jefferson said that.

perhaps paul revere and amigos should have light up some fireworks to warn the regulars were coming.


semp

Pretty sure clowns can destroy stuff without fireworks.

I doubt Jefferson ever felt the need to say that. He'd certainly not recognize, nor be pleased with, where the Republic has gone.

And there is no greater nor more limitless tyranny than that which uses the excuse of being "for your own good".
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 02, 2023, 09:32:38 PM
Pretty sure clowns can destroy stuff without fireworks.

I doubt Jefferson ever felt the need to say that. He'd certainly not recognize, nor be pleased with, where the Republic has gone.

And there is no greater nor more limitless tyranny than that which uses the excuse of being "for your own good".

who said give me fireworks or give me death.


just because you add a quote or two from founding fathers does not mean your point is valid.

semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 02, 2023, 10:44:18 PM
who said give me fireworks or give me death.


just because you add a quote or two from founding fathers does not mean your point is valid.

semp

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Only one was from a Founding Father.

And you've provided zero evidence my point is not valid.

Thanks for playing. You may go now.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 02, 2023, 11:05:43 PM

same as the cities around here. they go after those that sell them illegally but for rest of us unless there's a complain nothing.


semp

lol. not. Not in Southern California at least.

You can't legally buy anything that flies, explodes,

Cannot explode or fly into the air
Cannot contain arsenic sulfide, chlorates, magnesium, and many other chemicals.
Cannot be larger than 10 inches in length or a quarter-inch in diameter.
Illegal fireworks include skyrockets, bottle rockets, aerial missiles and spinners, Roman candles, aerial shells, firecrackers and more.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 02, 2023, 11:39:13 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Only one was from a Founding Father.

And you've provided zero evidence my point is not valid.

Thanks for playing. You may go now.


you have zero evidence your point is valid.


semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 02, 2023, 11:40:49 PM
lol. not. Not in Southern California at least.

You can't legally buy anything that flies, explodes,

Cannot explode or fly into the air
Cannot contain arsenic sulfide, chlorates, magnesium, and many other chemicals.
Cannot be larger than 10 inches in length or a quarter-inch in diameter.
Illegal fireworks include skyrockets, bottle rockets, aerial missiles and spinners, Roman candles, aerial shells, firecrackers and more.


read what I was replying to. totally agree with your point.


semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: TryHard on July 03, 2023, 12:03:55 AM
Some people just can't see others have fun..... ONE DAY out of the year  :rofl
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 03, 2023, 01:41:05 AM
Some people just can't see others have fun..... ONE DAY out of the year  :rofl

Over here it's not ONE day. It goes on for weeks before and after, and all through the night. You have no idea until you experience what this is like.

Noy just holidays either. Its whenever. Basketball game, soccer, fight. Anything really and these things are going off. And I mean ALL over the cities. Hundreds, if not thousands of square miles of it.

It's not like your neighborhood family setting off a little firework show.

They launch these mortar things right at houses and they cause fires. I live in a trailer and I often wonder if I'm going to get fried some night in my sleep.

 
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 03, 2023, 08:15:20 AM

you have zero evidence your point is valid.


semp


I don't need to prove anything. My point is based in well established fact. Fireworks were legal for decades. Then the nanny state decided to make laws "for your own good".

If you like living in a world run by Karens, that's your problem. They'll come for your fun, there are Karens who don't like it, and know better than you what is good for you.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Eagler on July 03, 2023, 08:24:47 AM
Between ptsd, morons hurting themselves,  the anxiety it causes animals and pets and the fact you have to actually lie to purchase them, fireworks laws are about as dumb as they come..

I am all for outlawing all except sparklers and professional displays..those being out of earshot unless I choose to attend it

Eagler
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 03, 2023, 08:38:07 AM

I don't need to prove anything. My point is based in well established fact. Fireworks were legal for decades. Then the nanny state decided to make laws "for your own good".

If you like living in a world run by Karens, that's your problem. They'll come for your fun, there are Karens who don't like it, and know better than you what is good for you.

You might think differently if you were experiencing what happens out here in Los Angeles area.

How would you feel if, for weeks on end, all night long, about 50 cars showed up at the end of your driveway and started honking their horns all night long? Would you think that they should be allowed to do that?
And not just any horns. Train horns. Lol.

It's hard to describe what goes on here.

Last night around 12:30 I was still up. It was relatively quiet. There was still stuff going off but then suddenly this massive and relentless chain of explosions, whistles and concussive mortars started going off about a block away from me. I could see the smoke in the sky. White explosions and giant booms shook my place. I mean it scared me for a second when it started. The little dog that I'm taking care of kind of freaked out too. I went outside just to make sure nothing around me was going to catch on fire. It's on my security camera.
I sat there and watched it for about a minute. I should have gone in and got my cell phone to film it.

I really dislike anything to do with nanny state laws. But I draw the line when it affects other people.
You should be able to do pretty much whatever you want to do as long as you're not harming or disturbing others.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: MiloMorai on July 03, 2023, 09:08:37 AM

I don't need to prove anything. My point is based in well established fact. Fireworks were legal for decades. Then the nanny state decided to make laws "for your own good".

If you like living in a world run by Karens, that's your problem. They'll come for your fun, there are Karens who don't like it, and know better than you what is good for you.
Just watch a video of some idiot setting of fireworks. He set off one at the end  of the laneway. It was like  a  Roman candle but instead of going up it went sideways. It set off a large stash of other fireworks behind his mini van. Looked like an ammo dump going off.

It isn't the Karens but the idiots that ruin it for everyone.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Shuffler on July 03, 2023, 09:28:19 AM
You can buy mortars at the firework stands here in Texas.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Eagler on July 03, 2023, 11:07:33 AM
You have to lie and sign papers stating you will use them for agriculture purposes- scare birds from your crops..

Forced to lie to even purchase the stupid waste of money...

Now and January 1st are noisy silly times most grow out of but are Darwin tools for some...

Eagler
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 03, 2023, 12:33:50 PM
You have to lie and sign papers stating you will use them for agriculture purposes- scare birds from your crops..

Forced to lie to even purchase the stupid waste of money...

Now and January 1st are noisy silly times most grow out of but are Darwin tools for some...

Eagler


it causes lots of vets have flashbacks but sure make fun of them.

it wouldn't be so bad if only happens on ID but around here it's at least a month. hard to sleep when your neighbors are shooting them every night.


semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: TryHard on July 03, 2023, 05:15:17 PM
I moved to the city so I wouldn't have to ever hear any noise.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on July 04, 2023, 08:46:50 AM
You might think differently if you were experiencing what happens out here in Los Angeles area.

How would you feel if, for weeks on end, all night long, about 50 cars showed up at the end of your driveway and started honking their horns all night long? Would you think that they should be allowed to do that?
And not just any horns. Train horns. Lol.

It's hard to describe what goes on here.

Last night around 12:30 I was still up. It was relatively quiet. There was still stuff going off but then suddenly this massive and relentless chain of explosions, whistles and concussive mortars started going off about a block away from me. I could see the smoke in the sky. White explosions and giant booms shook my place. I mean it scared me for a second when it started. The little dog that I'm taking care of kind of freaked out too. I went outside just to make sure nothing around me was going to catch on fire. It's on my security camera.
I sat there and watched it for about a minute. I should have gone in and got my cell phone to film it.

I really dislike anything to do with nanny state laws. But I draw the line when it affects other people.
You should be able to do pretty much whatever you want to do as long as you're not harming or disturbing others.


Your problem is not with fireworks. Your problem is that you live in an area where decades of voting for free crap has created a culture devoid on manners, mores, and morals. The society there has devolved into what it is. Laws are worthless there. Your prosecutors won't prosecute people for shoplifting. Or simple assault. Or for defecating/urinating on the street, or the sidewalk. You live in a festering cesspool, and you're complaining about fireworks.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 04, 2023, 09:46:44 AM

Your problem is not with fireworks. Your problem is that you live in an area where decades of voting for free crap has created a culture devoid on manners, mores, and morals. The society there has devolved into what it is. Laws are worthless there. Your prosecutors won't prosecute people for shoplifting. Or simple assault. Or for defecating/urinating on the street, or the sidewalk. You live in a festering cesspool, and you're complaining about fireworks.



what city you live in. I imagine it's full of law abiding citizens and police are not needed.

semp
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 04, 2023, 10:18:42 AM

Your problem is not with fireworks. Your problem is that you live in an area where decades of voting for free crap has created a culture devoid on manners, mores, and morals. The society there has devolved into what it is. Laws are worthless there. Your prosecutors won't prosecute people for shoplifting. Or simple assault. Or for defecating/urinating on the street, or the sidewalk. You live in a festering cesspool, and you're complaining about fireworks.

Not denying that California is marred from the policies of the ONE party that runs everything.

But I don't wake up in the morning and think "what a nice day. Too bad the liberals are ruining it"  Almost nothing, policy wise, affects me or my enjoyment of where I live.

The fireworks however....   They are not something subtle. The cause of them might be that illegals are here and they're the ones setting them off. Highly likely.  Also note - the laws against fireworks don't deter them one bit. Just like any nanny law. Gun laws are the same.

But my comments about the fireworks were not meant to be a discourse on their cause. I was simply complaining about the people who were setting them off. You said that people like me just didn't like freedom, basically. I merely responded that that you might feel differently if people were doing this over where you live.

Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 04, 2023, 10:28:43 AM
In other words. I am not against fireworks. I'm against people setting them off all day and night over my house.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: RUSH1 on July 04, 2023, 07:15:06 PM
In other words. I am not against fireworks. I'm against people setting them off all day and night over my house.

Sounds like they need to get jobs.   
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 04, 2023, 11:00:21 PM
 I'm sitting outside drinking coffee and recording some of this with my field recorder. So it records pretty well on stereo. Maybe I'll post some of it good but I'm not going to let it record all freaking night.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: sparky127 on July 05, 2023, 09:11:29 AM
For the first couple of years after they legalized them here people went nuts.  After a while though, the novelty wears off.  When I was a kid Mr. Horach hired kids to work in his candy store.  His rule was... eat all the candy you want.  What a great policy; the kids would go nuts with it and eventually (like after a week) just get bored.  After  a while the smell of the candy would kinda make you sick..  Conversely, the BEST way to get a human to DO something is to tell them they are NOT allowed.

I'm sure firearms are exempt from the above observation.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: MiloMorai on July 05, 2023, 06:00:57 PM
To those complaining about the nanny state, the cost of hospital stays by those injured by fireworks comes out of your pocket.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: sparky127 on July 05, 2023, 06:57:03 PM
We are not Canada.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 05, 2023, 07:05:51 PM
We are not Canada.


everything comes out of somebody's pocket.


semp

Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: MiloMorai on July 05, 2023, 08:20:27 PM
We are not Canada.
I knew there would be stupid replies.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: sparky127 on July 06, 2023, 01:25:13 AM
Well... You know what they say about asking stupid questions...
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: knorB on July 06, 2023, 08:43:06 AM

everything comes out of somebody's pocket.


semp

The irony...
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: MiloMorai on July 06, 2023, 10:05:02 AM
Well... You know what they say about asking stupid questions...
I made a statement tho.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: sparky127 on July 06, 2023, 10:35:56 AM
Ok... Make a stupid statement, get a stupid response.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: knorB on July 06, 2023, 01:06:08 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1677015259805274117?s=20
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: -gg- on July 06, 2023, 02:28:39 PM
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1677015259805274117?s=20

exactly

Those white flashes are the REALLY loud, house-shaking explosions. It really does sound like a massive war zone.

I need to post the audio I got.

New Year is even worse. And it goes on for weeks before and after these holidays, plus on any occasion that the illegals celebrate, plus sports and god knows what else.

 
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Shuffler on July 06, 2023, 04:38:46 PM
Back in 1969 I lived in Venezuela for a time. We would see large flashes in the sky and explosions every so often. It turned out to be a church. They would fire rockets to scare the bad spirits away.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Eagler on July 07, 2023, 08:14:51 AM
Back in 1969 I lived in Venezuela for a time. We would see large flashes in the sky and explosions every so often. It turned out to be a church. They would fire rockets to scare the bad spirits away.

Doesn't look like it worked

Eagler
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Shuffler on July 07, 2023, 12:18:59 PM
Doesn't look like it worked

Eagler

LOL back then it was like an older USA. They have since changed to socialism and the folks are starving. I have been told they have eaten their dogs now.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: 1Cane on July 08, 2023, 08:32:05 PM
California just banned Spanish for having only two nouns to describe gender!
                    :x :cheers: :x
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: RUSH1 on July 08, 2023, 09:20:58 PM
California just banned Spanish for having only two nouns to describe gender!
                    :x :cheers: :x

Probably coming.  F'ed up place.

https://youtube.com/shorts/ALJSCxWcbmM?feature=share
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: RUSH1 on July 08, 2023, 09:23:53 PM
nm
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: MiloMorai on July 09, 2023, 06:05:54 AM
Doesn't look like it worked

Eagler
Because it is a dictatorship which could be coming to you in 2024.
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: guncrasher on July 09, 2023, 09:51:02 AM
California just banned Spanish for having only two nouns to describe gender!
                    :x :cheers: :x


that's not accurate. there's more than 2.



semp



Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: Eagler on July 10, 2023, 07:02:41 AM
Because it is a dictatorship which could be coming to you in 2024.

With trillion dollar executive orders aimed at nothing more than vote buying, silencing of any competing views on just about everything, bias to the point of corruption media, some would argue it's already here

Eagler
Title: Re: Southern California - illegal fireworks
Post by: MiloMorai on July 10, 2023, 08:32:01 AM
With trillion dollar executive orders aimed at nothing more than vote buying, silencing of any competing views on just about everything, bias to the point of corruption media, some would argue it's already here

Eagler
It is nothing compared to what could be coming in '24 is someone is elected to his 3rd term.