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Title: The Judge cheating
Post by: HamrDown on July 04, 2023, 06:23:42 AM
By now, many have seen this guy turn a 190 or any plane 180 at 400+ MPH and hit you with 2 cannon rounds at 500ft. Time to do something about this guy.  :bhead :noid
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Eagler on July 04, 2023, 07:22:10 AM
Stay out of his 11 to 1 and you won't have a problem

He isn't purposely cheating imo

He loses if you can get him into a t&b but his aim and his connection makes his frontal attack impossible to win most times

Eagler
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Animl-AW on July 04, 2023, 08:35:20 AM
A smooth stick doesn’t need to spray and pray. (Like me)
Just a few well placed canon rounds.

I think these accusation come from playing other games where it does happen. Therefore, its a go to accusation in AH where its never proven and very less likely to happen.

Some of these people have been playing 20-30 yrs. They are skilled.

>Don’t jump to reckless accusations. Unless you can prove it, don’t say it.<
Prove first, speak later

It just makes one look the poor loser, or SLS (Sore Loser Syndrome) scream “cheat”.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Max on July 04, 2023, 09:38:42 AM
Well...this certainly won't end well.  :devil

<S>
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: nopoop on July 04, 2023, 09:47:02 AM
The ONLY pilots that complain about the Judge are the ones that have never been beat legitimately by ANYBODY. and will let you know that on 200. You will never get a "good fight" from these "aces" in the text buffer. It is always the same people..

As a knight he killed me daily. Learned a few things. If you have the altitude you had better be fast, because he will be VERY fast, and will zoom up to your six and you will die. What Eagler said, that is the dead zone. If you catch him slow he is very good in the scissor. He is a master at staying fast and knows the D9 inside and out. With my films its not so much the gunnery, its the ability to stay fast that stands out.

As a bish he is fun to fight with. Looking for the fight I always look for him along with a few others.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: HamrDown on July 04, 2023, 10:09:50 AM
Stay out of his 11 to 1 and you won't have a problem

He isn't purposely cheating imo

He loses if you can get him into a t&b but his aim and his connection makes his frontal attack impossible to win most times

Eagler

Good advice <S> Lynryd - Think I am going to quit the game for a while.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Golden Dragon on July 04, 2023, 11:01:05 AM
The Judge isn't cheating in my opinion. I just changed tactics accordingly for high 190s.  He hos every merge and as I prefer American rides I'll always lose to the cannons so I just don't merge with high 190s now.  I've been moving away from trying to merge anyway as more than 90 percent of the time the opponent is just going to pull at the last second to squirt cannon at me anyway as I purposely offset my fighter for a fight.  As mentioned he stores a lot of E then zooms up.  Jazzi did it in the Spixteen, Simon does it in the F4U, and I do it myself in the Pony.  It's not cheating it's simply knowing your preferred fighter in game.  He can be very difficult to shoot down because of the flipping flopping nature of the 190's programming in game.  When cornered all 190 drivers do this.  Every single one.  To us real pilots it's laughable and ridiculous but in the end it's a game.  And it's almost impossible to land enough fifty caliber when they are spazzing out like that.

I sit in front of my screen laughing at all the timid remarks and afraid to doghfight accusations.  You're not hurting my feelings you're simply making me laugh.  Quit hoing, stop hording, quit picking us out of 1 v 1s and you just might find that the number and quality of fights improve.  In the meantime I'll just keep on "flying" my way.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 04, 2023, 11:19:12 AM
Anyone who plays over 150 hours a month with over 1400 kills (probably more than ive got in 2 years lol), understands E management and ACM while flying one of the best BnZ planes in the game, is going to be a tough challenge for most players. Wish he could fly something a bit more challenging for his skill level, but it ain't my $15...
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: nopoop on July 04, 2023, 12:28:40 PM
He flys 109s and a occasioal LA 7.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: 100Coogn on July 04, 2023, 12:36:51 PM
By now, many have seen this guy turn a 190 or any plane 180 at 400+ MPH and hit you with 2 cannon rounds at 500ft. Time to do something about this guy.  :bhead :noid
Yeah, stay out of his line of fire.  :rofl

Coogan
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Meatwad on July 04, 2023, 12:37:27 PM
Someone got "Judged"
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Vulcan on July 04, 2023, 04:10:19 PM
Fought him over the weekend, he got me a couple of times and I gave him a 37mm enema. I didn't see anything cheaty going on, he's just a good stick and usually fights in conditions to his advantage (alt and numbers). It's not a unique style in AH.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Animl-AW on July 04, 2023, 04:33:19 PM
Good advice <S> Lynryd - Think I am going to quit the game for a while.

Bhaa! You’re just angry. Quitting for a while won’t increase your skills.

14 yrs ago I was once a pretty good stick, took too much time off and I don’t even move the needle. Almost like starting over.

Its like billiards, play every day keeps your skill and muscle memory and trick shots up to par. Take too long of a break and you’re not the same player, until you warm up.  I still get angry with myself for taking too much time off, its my fault.

Always someone greater and lessor.

Some of these guys are just monsters with a stick. I’m not one of them,…anymore.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: LCADolby on July 04, 2023, 05:27:12 PM
The last guy to cause this much ruckus on the BBS was Skyyr    :D
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: JimmyD3 on July 04, 2023, 05:33:02 PM
The last guy to cause this much ruckus on the BBS was Skyyr    :D

Not sure I agree with you on that, Shane and Finetime sure get a lot of attention recently.  :D
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: LCADolby on July 04, 2023, 05:33:59 PM
Not sure I agree with you on that, Shane and Finetime sure get a lot of attention recently.  :D

There's always white noise between stations  :old:
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 04, 2023, 05:53:04 PM
The last guy to cause this much ruckus on the BBS was Skyyr    :D

I do find it interesting that their flying styles, plane choice, and time in game/kills per month, are eerily similar....
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: molybdenum on July 04, 2023, 07:07:32 PM
You've been proved to have been cheating, hammerdown/lynard (shade calling out my position to others).  Don't think you will ever hold a higher moral ground here. Even if your complaint is accurate, which is probably isn't.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: haggerty on July 04, 2023, 08:23:41 PM
Combination of a good pilot with probable flaws in the 190D flight model.  He has mastered how to retain rediculous E through certain maneuvers that shouldnt retain it so well.  Not a cheat, just finding what works in the games mechanics.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Bopgun on July 04, 2023, 08:30:02 PM
The last guy to cause this much ruckus on the BBS was Skyyr    :D

I don’t think Skyyr was even doing the same numbers judge does, maybe if you counted his three shade accounts.

I know a lot of people have issues with Thejudge, I typically don’t. I like how when he and I meet in the air we will call off friendlies and have a true fight to the death.
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: fd ski on July 05, 2023, 09:55:57 AM
he ain't cheating. Just a really good shot, if you let him take a shot at you, he'll likely hit you hard.
Secondly - very good E understanding. Better them most.
Thirdly - specialized. 190s and 109s.

Mostly gravitates to 190s and runs when he losses advantage or initiative - and rightly so. Annoying as heck to fight, especially if you're in a slower plane as he won't let you get an advantage and will simply disengage.

Get a faster plane and run him down. La7/Temp or another dora will do. Just be careful, he can wipe that thing around if you're in D9 as well.

Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: popeye on July 05, 2023, 10:31:54 AM
Not accusing him of cheating, but I would like to know why he shows up on radar when he shouldn't -- and is the only player (that I've seen) who does.     :headscratch:
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: psob2 on July 05, 2023, 12:18:11 PM
think judge is just a very good pilot who has mastered the 190 D in game. not a cheat, just good
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: nrshida on July 05, 2023, 12:23:58 PM
I would be careful making assumptions if you're an 'honest' player. There are three dubious things about this player. In least to most significance he's likely using a second account and laptop to dot wingman to victimise anyone who has criticised him (which he can't handle). Secondly he has spoken without negativity about aiming assistance which is available on other games and possibly there exist PC ports of such code. Thirdly: his connection. Without any signs of warping (in other words the connection is stable and not accidentally inconsistent) and yet he is always (past a certain date has been) in advance of the position that you see on your end. He's seeing easy shots and on your end he's out of range or too much AoT. It is not proof but evidence, ask yourself have you ever seen another player display this anomaly? In all my years of AH I've never seen a single other player enjoy this consistent spatial advantage.

There could be some buffering code which creates a disparity between the packets of data which would execute outside of HTC's code and therefore undetectable by the inbuilt 'anti-tampering' software. Similar to an 'aim-assistance' app.

Lastly if this player is putting in 150-hours per tour as someone mentioned in combination with every measure fair-means-and-foul to win as much as possible including plane choice flown so very conservatively then there's nothing you can do to make his life any sadder and tragic. If you think about it.
 
Title: Re: The Judge cheating
Post by: Simon on July 05, 2023, 02:36:37 PM
It is not proof but evidence, ask yourself have you ever seen another player display this anomaly? In all my years of AH I've never seen a single other player enjoy this consistent spatial advantage.
Precisely. Many of his defenders in this thread are either not dedicated dogfighters or lack the experience to recognize that something is amiss. Take a look at who is raising concerns (Trog, Shane, 'Shida, myself). We are not the 'cry wolf' type. I've had the pleasure of dueling some of these wonderful guys hundreds of times, and without exception, whoever loses the fight knows immediately why and recognizes the mistake instantly. To each of us, something is clearly and uniquely off with this player.
Lastly if this player is putting in 150-hours per tour as someone mentioned in combination with every measure fair-means-and-foul to win as much as possible including plane choice flown so very conservatively then there's nothing you can do to make his life any sadder and tragic. If you think about it.
Even worse is that he's so very young, and spends entire summer weekends playing a 25 year old video game against a bunch of old men and doing his best to antagonize with the stated intent of driving players away.
Perhaps he's non-ambulatory, so I'll resist judgement, but... yikes on so many levels.

@Lynyrd, stick with it bud. He'll burn out soon. His act is unsustainable.