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Title: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 02, 2023, 04:23:50 PM
These are still to be considered restorations as I have not gone back and fully redrawn them.  I'm going to be slowly converting them to my own artwork over time, but I am hoping to at least make them look a little less cartoonish (no offense to the original artists, it's just the way AH3 makes them look) for those that might want to use them.  Devil is working with me on the accuracy issues and I thank him for that.



(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36716)

By Tak - "JG 1" (Probably fictional.)





(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36718)

By Tak - SG 2





(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36720)

By Edbert - JV 44 (I tweaked this one some more after this screenshot was taken to correct some errors in the placement of the markings but you get the idea.)
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Banshee7 on August 02, 2023, 06:09:12 PM


(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36720)

By Edbert - JV 44 (I tweaked this one some more after this screenshot was taken to correct some errors in the placement of the markings but you get the idea.)

My favorite dora skin  :rock Looks awesome
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 02, 2023, 07:52:36 PM
My favorite dora skin  :rock Looks awesome

You should see Devil's Red 13 then.  Amazing skin.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/skins/index.php?skobj=190d9&display=190D97052505&skinname=Jv%2044%20by%20Devil5O5

I can't take credit for anything other than some minor tweaks on these three.   :salute

Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Devil 505 on August 02, 2023, 08:29:53 PM
You should see Devil's Red 13 then.  Amazing skin.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/skins/index.php?skobj=190d9&display=190D97052505&skinname=Jv%2044%20by%20Devil5O5

Thanks for the plug.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Banshee7 on August 02, 2023, 08:50:17 PM
You should see Devil's Red 13 then.  Amazing skin.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/skins/index.php?skobj=190d9&display=190D97052505&skinname=Jv%2044%20by%20Devil5O5

I can't take credit for anything other than some minor tweaks on these three.   :salute

I'll have to look at that in game!!! You guys do an awesome job!
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Arlo on August 02, 2023, 08:59:06 PM
 :aok :cheers:
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 02, 2023, 09:10:34 PM
Thanks guys.

Banshee, we sure try.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: oboe on August 02, 2023, 11:37:58 PM
They look great, Vraciu!  I’m partial to the IL-2 segmented diamond in place of the tail swastika.  Nice to some kind of tail symbol.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Devil 505 on August 03, 2023, 12:04:59 AM
I’m partial to the IL-2 segmented diamond in place of the tail swastika.  Nice to some kind of tail symbol.

I feel the opposite way about it. Having a substitute symbol only draws attention to the fact that there's no swastika there. Better to have nothing.

Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: lyric1 on August 03, 2023, 02:28:41 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Greebo on August 03, 2023, 03:51:17 AM
Look forward to seeing your final skins Vraciu, in the mean time this is a big improvement over the AH3 chrome effect lighting.

I'm with Devil WRT swastikas.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: JimmyD3 on August 03, 2023, 09:03:19 AM
Very nice V!! :rock
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 03, 2023, 10:09:20 AM
Thanks guys. 

A lot of warbirds use the diamond.   In the stress of a dogfight your mind will fill in the blanks.   I want to try it out for awhile and see what people think.   With some creative mottling it might be less obvious.

I also did a bit of desaturation to tone down the cartoon colors,  fixed some aileron and elevator gap errors, did a redraw of all the wing rivets/panel lines to make them more subtle, and borrowed from Devil's version to redo the exhaust stacks.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: oboe on August 03, 2023, 09:52:06 PM
Totally get what you’re saying Devil, but for me, it’s the blank tail that draws my attention to the fact that something is missing.   The segmented diamond made it less noticeable somehow.

One time, I tried a segmented diamond with a dot on the middle, and my eyes actually filled in the swastika.  It was eery.  Way too close to the original.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 04, 2023, 01:15:41 PM
Totally get what you’re saying Devil, but for me, it’s the blank tail that draws my attention to the fact that something is missing.   The segmented diamond made it less noticeable somehow.

One time, I tried a segmented diamond with a dot on the middle, and my eyes actually filled in the swastika.  It was eery.  Way too close to the original.

Makes me want to put a diamond in the middle just to see the effect.  :noid
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 04, 2023, 06:32:11 PM
Just experimented based on Oboe's comment...

Interesting.

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36723)

^^^^^ This one is too thick I think.



(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36725)

^^^^^ This size with the square instead of a dot/circle might work better.


Edit In:

(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36729)


^^^^^ Interesting effect...but...


(https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=407859.0;attach=36716)

 ^^^^^ The empty diamond may be best.  It seems to fit with the national insignia's open style the closest.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: nrshida on August 09, 2023, 03:44:33 AM
Fantastic. Weird you can't just put the tail markings as they were.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Bopgun on August 09, 2023, 04:18:41 AM
Fantastic. Weird you can't just put the tail markings as they were.

I believe it would make this game inaccessible for our german gamers.
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: nrshida on August 09, 2023, 06:02:20 AM
Yup but that's the weird part. "I wasn't going to be a neo-Nazi until I saw the swastika on the tail of this WW2 aircraft so now I've reconsidered..." - said no one ever  :old:
Title: Re: Vraciu's Updated Adopted Doras
Post by: Vraciu on August 09, 2023, 12:34:42 PM
Yup but that's the weird part. "I wasn't going to be a neo-Nazi until I saw the swastika on the tail of this WW2 aircraft so now I've reconsidered..." - said no one ever  :old:

Exactly.  It's history.  They should face it head on.