So is the rain global warming or was it the drought before it?
Eagler
It was neither. It’s the result of adding massive amounts of water to places where it has historically never existed and the removal of water from where has historically existed.
When you do this, you disturb an equilibrium that took eons to stabilize.
California is reaping what they sowed. It doesn’t rain where it used to. Now, we have the water pumped to California evaporating there into the atmosphere and heading out to sea instead of that water evaporating from where it was pumped.
This kind of change affects everything “downwind or downstream” of where the changes (by humans) occurred.
Now draining Florida marshlands is another example of humans moving great amounts of water and affecting a change to an area much larger than Florida itself.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 19, 2023, 10:46:08 AM
It’s starting to rapidly decay. Dry air has already imbedded its self in the core of the storm. The mountains of the Baha are creating some orographic lift. However, that same process is also impeding its inflow from the only source of moist air left. If the center of circulation crosses into the Baha, it could very well tear what’s left of the guts out of the storm. The sea surface temperatures will rapidly decrease as it moves north. I would be somewhat surprised if Hillary is even a tropical storm as it passes into socal.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: AKIron on August 20, 2023, 09:26:04 AM
Northeast Washington could use some of that rain right now.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Mano on August 20, 2023, 02:05:13 PM
It’s starting to rapidly decay. Dry air has already imbedded its self in the core of the storm. The mountains of the Baha are creating some orographic lift. However, that same process is also impeding its inflow from the only source of moist air left. If the center of circulation crosses into the Baha, it could very well tear what’s left of the guts out of the storm. The sea surface temperatures will rapidly decrease as it moves north. I would be somewhat surprised if Hillary is even a tropical storm as it passes into socal.
Good job Chris
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Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: guncrasher on August 20, 2023, 03:37:12 PM
well it just started raining again. not hard rain but it's steady. lots of people staying home. not many cars on the street.
we had worst rain last winter.
semp
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 20, 2023, 04:30:22 PM
A big nothing burger, as expected. Been raining most of the day but not hard. At least for the Los Angeles area.
By the way, in 1858 a hurricane actually affected San Diego. It just missed making landfall as a hurricane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1858_San_Diego_hurricane 1939 - el nino caused a tropical storm to hit southern California. We are in an el nino now.
Hurricane in around 1994 came up the Baja peninsula and weakened as it came through the border of Az an Ca. it's not unheard of to have these cycles.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: guncrasher on August 20, 2023, 04:51:33 PM
and now we have an earthquake 5. something
semp
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 20, 2023, 04:53:50 PM
yeah. lol. Now THAT was eye opening.
started shaking just as I got the emergency warning blasting over the phone.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Vulcan on August 20, 2023, 06:20:10 PM
I don't get outta bed for anything less than a 6.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 20, 2023, 06:51:07 PM
It was neither. It’s the result of adding massive amounts of water to places where it has historically never existed and the removal of water from where has historically existed.
When you do this, you disturb an equilibrium that took eons to stabilize.
California is reaping what they sowed. It doesn’t rain where it used to. Now, we have the water pumped to California evaporating there into the atmosphere and heading out to sea instead of that water evaporating from where it was pumped.
This kind of change affects everything “downwind or downstream” of where the changes (by humans) occurred.
Now draining Florida marshlands is another example of humans moving great amounts of water and affecting a change to an area much larger than Florida itself.
Yes. Nothing to do with El nino.
🙉
😅
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: guncrasher on August 20, 2023, 07:28:52 PM
yeah i picked up my phone as I read the message earthquake hit. for a second i had that image of the wedding singer.
semp
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: MiloMorai on August 21, 2023, 08:52:47 AM
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: MiloMorai on August 21, 2023, 12:52:59 PM
Palms Springs gets about 4" yearly. It got ~ 1/2 of that in less than 6 hours.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 21, 2023, 12:59:09 PM
And nothing happened.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 21, 2023, 01:00:25 PM
Palm Springs has had 4 days with more rain before. Doesn't happen often, but it's not unprecedented.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Eagler on August 21, 2023, 01:22:39 PM
Every weather system is now catastrophic...and are usually named by our now weather channel experts...
They run the fear of crying wolf except for the real storms like Ian where their guess at landfall was just another guess..
Eagler
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 21, 2023, 01:39:37 PM
The uninformed speak more and louder than the informed. Very loud here.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 21, 2023, 01:41:12 PM
That started in 1971.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: CptTrips on August 21, 2023, 01:45:33 PM
I would literally take human life for some of that rain here in central Texas.
I can always put on more clothes in winter. There is only so much I can take off in summer without getting arrested. And it's been years since I've been arrested from running around nekid.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 21, 2023, 02:01:14 PM
The uninformed speak more and louder than the informed. Very loud here.
Agreed.
I am informed. I live here and I see the hype on our local news. They love to inflate everything and the lemmings don't know any better.
Everything is "unprecedented". It's a joke.
El Nino. Look it up. That's what causes stuff like this and it's been happening forever. It's cyclic.
In California we have:
Droughts, Fires, Rain, Mudslides and then all over again. ALWAYS.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 21, 2023, 02:11:01 PM
We also had a 5.1 earthquake yesterday. Those happen about once every two years.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 21, 2023, 03:05:50 PM
Denial is a hellava drug. Life is easier when created by imagination that avoids research.
No matter your stance, both can be right at the same time. Some only think on the surface.
So far, the same tribe has been proven wrong on every subject they coddled. Batting 0 is not a virtue.
I’ll stick with science, over foolish drivel.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 21, 2023, 03:52:58 PM
and, of course, nobody knows what you're talking about.
Science is a real thing. Real science.
I stand by real science. Common sense too.
Sheep will be sheep though. Lemmings will be lemmings.
I'm much more concerned about governments and their "remedies" for natural events. Let's shut down farms, ban meat, air-conditioners, and natural gas stoves. Lets stave everybody in the name of the climate change agenda farce.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 21, 2023, 04:14:39 PM
and, of course, nobody knows what you're talking about.
Science is a real thing. Real science.
I stand by real science. Common sense too.
Sheep will be sheep though. Lemmings will be lemmings.
I'm much more concerned about governments and their "remedies" for natural events. Let's shut down farms, ban meat, air-conditioners, and natural gas stoves. Lets stave everybody in the name of the climate change agenda farce.
Sure you do, you just proved my point. Nonsense The gov never suggested one of those. Concerns are not policies. No one suggested one of those, except vegetarians.
So much invented hysteria.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: GasTeddy on August 21, 2023, 04:27:21 PM
Science, real science. Some hundreds of years ago real science told people, earth is the center of universe and everything else was rotating around it. Real science, official truth. just one example.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: -gg- on August 21, 2023, 04:49:48 PM
Sure you do, you just proved my point. Nonsense The gov never suggested one of those. Concerns are not policies. No one suggested one of those, except vegetarians.
So much invented hysteria.
every single one of those is proposed and actually happening. Open your eyes. All in the name of climate change.
And ignorant sheep like you are the reason it is happening
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: knorB on August 21, 2023, 05:02:42 PM
Sure you do, you just proved my point. Nonsense The gov never suggested one of those. Concerns are not policies. No one suggested one of those, except vegetarians.
So much invented hysteria.
So... how did you manage to get through the Ice age that was predicted in the 70s?
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 22, 2023, 07:23:44 AM
So... how did you manage to get through the Ice age that was predicted in the 70s?
Clinate change was predicted in the 20s if remember right. I have the article somewhere, but your tribe excuses everything. You believe nothing but political talking points. Covid was a hiax too< major eye roll> you have been wrong in every single subject. Ys slso ruin the game with this delusional bs. My time is limited because of this mindless trash
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: Animl-AW on August 22, 2023, 07:35:27 AM
Excuse me I was wrong, but point bigger
In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first predicted that changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect. In 1938, Guy Callendar connected carbon dioxide increases in Earth's atmosphere to global warming.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: DmonSlyr on August 22, 2023, 09:07:18 AM
In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first predicted that changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect. In 1938, Guy Callendar connected carbon dioxide increases in Earth's atmosphere to global warming.
You should just ignore it if it bothers you and makes you not want to participate on the boards. You don't have to click on it and read it...
For what it's worth, climate change is fear mongering and perpetual fear forever to enfluence policy in the direction they want for their corporate interests and Investments. You see, I always thought science would take us into the future of advancement. Not back to the stone ages by limiting people's advancement. Sure, we all want less pollution, but we ain't giving up AC, Stoves, engines, and steak dinners to make that happen.
Title: Re: Beware Hillary is coming
Post by: knorB on August 22, 2023, 09:11:29 AM
Clinate change was predicted in the 20s if remember right. I have the article somewhere, but your tribe excuses everything. You believe nothing but political talking points. Covid was a hiax too< major eye roll> you have been wrong in every single subject. Ys slso ruin the game with this delusional bs. My time is limited because of this mindless trash
Nostracuddlinghunkes have been predicting the end forever. Is there a particular corner or storefront you haunt with your cardboard sign?