This one is a good watch and addresses some of the questions raised about MIT etc.
My dude. I'm not trying to jam on you, but did you listen to that clip?
I had seen the original interview and rewatched that clip just now.
Is there a single solitary thing in there that even approaches something a reasonable person would describe as evidence? Can you point me to the time stamp?
It's basically, "So what about these advanced degrees no can verify?"
"Well, he took an off-the-shelf laser pen from Fry's electronics and duct-taped it to a toy pistol. Do you need more proof he has secret advanced degrees from MIT and Caltech after only attending a few classes at a local community college?"
If there was any actual proof of anything I missed it. Help me out.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: nopoop on September 08, 2023, 05:23:39 PM
Cpt you watched it !! I find this stuff interesting as I do with the latest stuff from the hearing in congress.
Is all this stuff for real ? Cant answer that, but it is interesting.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: CptTrips on September 08, 2023, 05:34:29 PM
Cpt you watched it !! I find this stuff interesting as I do with the latest stuff from the hearing in congress.
Is all this stuff for real ? Cant answer that, but it is interesting.
Oh I always watch that stuff if I think there might be anything useful.
I assure you no one wants it to be true more than me. I've always been a sciFi\science\astronomy nut since I was a pup. I would SO take a one way trip to an alien home world. Even if it was a one way trip. No problem.
But because I want it so bad, I know I am vulnerable and I refused to be played the fool because I'm too thirsty. I'll run the evidence like I was contemplating investing money. If it don't add up, I'm done.
There is fascinating stuff out there, but 99.99999999456% of what gets thrown around smells like horse dung to me.
So just because I believe in extraterrestrial life, or possibilities of past and ongoing contact, or the possibilities the government has recovered alien artifacts, doesn't mean I'm going to fall for crop circles or Bob Lazar.
But I am persuadable. Lets start with the absolute incontrovertible proof of his claimed advanced degrees from MIT and Caltech. If he has lied about that for decades, we are done. It would be foolish to give anything else he said weight. Fruit of the poison tree.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 08, 2023, 05:37:25 PM
Cpt you watched it !! I find this stuff interesting as I do with the latest stuff from the hearing in congress.
Is all this stuff for real ? Cant answer that, but it is interesting.
Nopoop, I'd advise you to go to Odysee.com and look up the channel Project Camelot.
https://odysee.com/@PROJECTCAMELOT:d?view=home
There is a ton of woowoo in there, but scroll all the way down at start from her oldest interviews first. While I can't confirm or deny the credibility of these people. There is a ton of info out there and some seem more legit than others so you'll just have to dig in and find ones you like and do research on certain intetviewees.
I like: Michael Scratt - refutes the claims of Lazar though. William Tompkins Norman Bergrun Bob Dean Rich Dolan
I think you and me are pretty much the only ones here to think outside the "norm" and they try very hard to keep it "norm" here for whatever reason.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: UpMaKilt on September 08, 2023, 05:38:37 PM
I was a UFO/conspiracy nut in the 90s as a teenager. Used to go conferences and stuff and listen to former defence contractors talk about crazy stuff. The mainstream of ufology back then started moving away from aliens to secret government projects etc all perfectly legit verifiable stuff like drones, new stealth tech. Lazar was a polarising figure back then too but the hard core hold him up as a beacon of truth. Stanton Freidman thinks he’s full of BS and that’s good enough for me. If you make a claim the onus is on you to prove it. I work with some seriously delusional people who make up stuff they really believe all the time but make excuses or tell stories about their stories when pressed. As for what Knapp believes, he had a financial interest in the story and still does. Lazar is specific enough to sound legit and vague enough to let you fill in the gaps to make your own conclusions.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: MiloMorai on September 08, 2023, 05:53:10 PM
There is about 71 million delusional America voters. :D=
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: TryHard on September 09, 2023, 01:32:29 AM
Nopoop, I'd advise you to go to Odysee.com and look up the channel Project Camelot.
https://odysee.com/@PROJECTCAMELOT:d?view=home
There is a ton of woowoo in there, but scroll all the way down at start from her oldest interviews first. While I can't confirm or deny the credibility of these people. There is a ton of info out there and some seem more legit than others so you'll just have to dig in and find ones you like and do research on certain intetviewees.
I like: Michael Scratt - refutes the claims of Lazar though. William Tompkins Norman Bergrun Bob Dean Rich Dolan
I think you and me are pretty much the only ones here to think outside the "norm" and they try very hard to keep it "norm" here for whatever reason.
Why does thinking outside the "norm" always mean tossing logic and reason to the wind?
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: LCADolby on September 09, 2023, 09:23:37 AM
While I believe Lazar is in all probability a mahoosive fibber, Knapp found the office phonebook directory with Lazar's name in where those said he was never there... That is my favorite mystery.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on September 09, 2023, 09:25:13 AM
While I believe Lazar is in all probability a mahoosive fibber, Knapp found the office phonebook directory with Lazar's name in where those said he was never there... That is my favorite mystery.
I don't doubt he work for some contractor that did work at some site associated with Area 51 advance flight research. But he could have been an low level tech, or IT, or janitor.
I don't blame the company for not wanting to give details of his employment. They are not legally required to. Anything they say could risk losing their contract. They probably already have egg of their face for a former employee running around saying crazy stuff. It doesn't even matter if it isn't true. When you work facilities that do secret research, you don't talk. About anything. Either truths or falsehoods. You don't discuss it period.
So he could convince me he worked for a low level defense contractor. Thousands of people have. That doesn't mean he has secret MIT\Caltech Masters degrees or worked with flying saucers.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: DmonSlyr on September 09, 2023, 09:56:32 AM
Why does thinking outside the "norm" always mean tossing logic and reason to the wind?
Well, that could be a question for a lot of things but in this meaning I'm referring to anything outside the "mainstream" as they call it.
You could say that most people within the mainstream have heard guitar solos from let's say "sweet child of mine", but most of them have never heard of Steve Vai, who takes guitar playing to whole different level, that most people haven't heard because it's not mainstream. What Steve Vai is capable of doesn't seem logically capable if you only hear mainstream music.
In this scenario, you could say that a lot of this stuff is outside the mainstream, so many don't look into it further. If you watch the Rich Dolan speech. You can connect a lot of dots that there is a legit phenomenon that could be rationally observed. Paintings in history that show flying objects that could be rationally observed. NASA films of objects and blurred out objects and sightings from the space satellite station as pointed out in films from Secureteam 10 on youtube. Military videos of UAPs. So you can make a rational argument that there is some phenomenon out there not being discussed generally in the "mainstream". Therefore it doesn't appear logical that these things are possible to people who only view what is in the mainstream of understanding.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: GasTeddy on September 09, 2023, 04:07:36 PM
Did someone say Area 51..? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PVizDD8-w8)
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: icepac on September 10, 2023, 09:22:47 AM
Lazar sells the best glow in the dark paint I’ve ever seen.
Never looked beyond what cool stuff I see at United Nuclear.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Slash27 on October 05, 2023, 10:31:29 PM
Well, that could be a question for a lot of things but in this meaning I'm referring to anything outside the "mainstream" as they call it.
You could say that most people within the mainstream have heard guitar solos from let's say "sweet child of mine", but most of them have never heard of Steve Vai, who takes guitar playing to whole different level, that most people haven't heard because it's not mainstream. What Steve Vai is capable of doesn't seem logically capable if you only hear mainstream music.
In this scenario, you could say that a lot of this stuff is outside the mainstream, so many don't look into it further. If you watch the Rich Dolan speech. You can connect a lot of dots that there is a legit phenomenon that could be rationally observed. Paintings in history that show flying objects that could be rationally observed. NASA films of objects and blurred out objects and sightings from the space satellite station as pointed out in films from Secureteam 10 on youtube. Military videos of UAPs. So you can make a rational argument that there is some phenomenon out there not being discussed generally in the "mainstream". Therefore it doesn't appear logical that these things are possible to people who only view what is in the mainstream of understanding.
Steve Vai sucks!
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: GasTeddy on October 06, 2023, 01:23:16 PM
Steve Vai is genius with guitar. If that sucks, then I ask you to do better than he does.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Bear76 on October 06, 2023, 01:33:46 PM
Steve Vai is genius with guitar. If that sucks, then I ask you to do better than he does.
Well his name is Slash... :D
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Mano on October 06, 2023, 04:10:00 PM
I listened to the entire interview on Spotify. I am skeptical of many things discussed by Bob Lazar, but at the same time I try to keep an open mind about lots of possibilities. I have a science background and did research for several years after college. I later went on to get a post graduate degree unrelated to the science I had been studying. There were lots of bob lazar types at the company I worked for. All of them were working on other projects at home unrelated to work. Bob Lazar has a ton of stuff in his garage not unlike some of the people I used to know. I signed a NDA and when you leave you are not to discuss anything you worked on. Bob Lazar indeed discussed many things including element 115. It is very likely his house was being searched for this or possibly something else that disappeared from the lab. Element 115 has been synthesized, but its current isotope is not stable and decays in nanoseconds. I believe Bob Lazar has an advanced degree. I do not know if Jeremy Corbell or George Knapp were able to verify the schools he allegedly attended, but Lazar appears to be really bright. He does know physics. I have not seen an unidentified flying object, but that does not mean they do not exist. The universe is vast and our sun is very young so I find it hard to accept that we are the only intelligent species. If there are others forms of propulsion, we will see them in the near future. It might be better if the human race develops a new propulsion from scratch than trying to back engineer something way beyond our comprehension. A big oops might kill a lot of people.
:salute
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Mano on October 06, 2023, 07:22:30 PM
If you are curious about Bob Lazar, here is documentary Made by Jeremy Corbell. Produced by George Knapp. 1 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: DmonSlyr on October 07, 2023, 01:21:40 AM
This was the song I was thinking of when I wrote that. And yes I believe he's an alien ;)
Holy crap at the end of this song it says its from the DVD "Steve Vai Alien love secrets". :rofl I'm way to messed on a Friday night for this right now :rofl
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Slash27 on October 07, 2023, 09:50:46 PM
Yes, but he did lose a guitar duel to the Karate Kid.
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: Slash27 on October 07, 2023, 09:56:50 PM
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: guncrasher on October 09, 2023, 12:20:47 PM
a couple of days ago i saw something in the sky. my brother, wife and me saw it at the same time. no Noice it was weird as hell. i guess you can say it if an ufo as we have no idea what it was. however it didnt have little aliens or if it did the pilot was pretty much hammered as it flew more like a bat than anything.
anyway most likely was a big drone, home made as it was about 4 feet wide. not sure what the biggest drone is but this one didnt come from out of space.
semp
Title: Re: George Knapp thoughts on Lazar
Post by: GasTeddy on October 09, 2023, 12:23:42 PM