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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: ZE on October 13, 2023, 12:38:13 PM
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:salute to all
I would like to apologize for asking this, but looking for your thoughts about the comments that frequently occur on channel 200. I never participated in channel 200 because, at first, I did not know of its existence, then when I started following it, I believed that it was an open space to increase friendship and camaraderie among AH virtual pilots. However, over time, I can see that I was wrong, and it has become nothing more than a space where some, rather childish, people are insulting and sincerely act arrogant.
Although some take this “game” so seriously, I want to remind you that it is simply a game and nothing like real life. Maybe some, like me, are already retired, with enough age and experience in “real” life to understand to not give that importance to the game, and to those virtual arrogant heroes who belittle other players for their lack of ability as a pilot or because use an inferior plane, or because tactically they play more defensively and as a team, rather than offensive and individual, you are not helping to the game survival. Everyone plays in their own way and uses the plane they want as best they can if that gives them the pleasure of continuing in this game. Although they are not asking me, my humble opinion is that this does more harm than good to the game – already diminished in itself – and scares away new players.
If you believe you are superior to others, and you live barking like a dog, you are probably the opposite of what you shout and in real life your achievements are few and insignificant. Maybe I'm wrong but insulting via virtual is useless – to say the less-…
ZE
BTW: open for any private duel to learn my lesson and it's OK.... :salute
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200 is there to use at your own risk. Some are fine on it... others make you realize that IQ is in short supply.
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Sometimes 200 even gets a little wild for me, and I was known for getting the Shane treatment back in the day. I admit, I use it to talk smack (a lot), but I never get personal. It's quite the soap opera sometimes!
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“Channel 200 for entertainment purposes only”
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CH200 has often, and traditionally been used to call out gamey behavior, for example, such as deliberately snap rolling and looking like a flopping fish to mess with the visuals on the guy trying to shoot you down. Used to be a FW move because of the roll rate, but it can be done with any plane and it's becoming endemic.
Would you expect to receive a <S> from the guy you did it to?
Following that logic, one makes cheap, sketchy moves with their real life if they resort to it in a game, apparently.
<edit: what about the foul language you see many players use, that doesn't seem to bother you?>
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Never got 200 myself
Think canned text message like the check 6 warning and salute would be better imo
Seems some have a very hard time controlling themselves these days and to continously block the loudmouths is a pita
Eagler
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Been there, seen that, staying 99% of the time away. Even saw some substantive exchange of ideas. Just some.
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Been there, seen that, staying 99% of the time away. Even saw some substantive exchange of ideas. Just some.
I do not tune to it. I highly recommend it.
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These antics are nothing new, nor inventive. Its all been said 1000 times. This behavior has gone on by some for decades, in AW too.
Taunting, within reason, is, and always has been, encouraged. But like many things in life, some take it to the limits to see where the white line is. This is why arenas have always had moderators and rules, because its not new.
There are times I can take it in small doses. But, if it pushes the limits just tune it off, OR push to change the subject. Hard to be mad when you’re laughing.
Like mentioned above, use at your own risk. Sooner or later they exhaust themselves and things go back to “normal”.
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When someone's sole tactic is to sit 10k over a fight in a brewster waiting for someone to get tied up in a fight for an easy pick, you can see how some people may wish to call that out.
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When someone's sole tactic is to sit 10k over a fight in a brewster waiting for someone to get tied up in a fight for an easy pick, you can see how some people may wish to call that out.
Brew flyers like me, on the contrary, usually fly below 10k and fight with the typical B&Z guys in the famous 190 , 109, F4U, etc... If you are below me, I will pick you for sure ( like anybody else in this game ). If I fly defensively and you are behind one of my Team, I will pick you for sure. Some "shame" people complain about flopping or any crazy maneuver to avoid being killed. Well, let me tell you if not everyone or many do that...
Brewster is the number one lower plane in this game. I will take advantage of any mistake you make in order to kill you and I believe everybody does that, or you are trying to tell here that you will only engage if the other pilot has the same altitude as you and you willn't take advantage.
Guess, I would recommend reviewing the most common fighter combat tactics and seeing if any of them don't mention that you try to be higher of your enemy and dive to kill...
Stop complaining that a guy like me (that doesn't know how to fly) can take advance of your mistake and kill you if I can. I will do that anytime. Be slow and low and I will be on your six, like anybody else in this game.
Fighting in a Brewster ( in this game ) is not an easy task with so many good players ( not me ), but for sure is a fun defensive plane.
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Ze, I've seen these talking points spread in others before you in your squad.
One bad apple spoils the bunch. Good luck.
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I do not tune to it. I highly recommend it.
Then you miss when someone does a <S> instead of .s
I want to know where and how much ZE paid to get reverse installed in his brew :salute
:cheers:
Eagler
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Never got 200 myself
Think canned text message like the check 6 warning and salute would be better imo
Seems some have a very hard time controlling themselves these days and to continously block the loudmouths is a pita
Eagler
The thing we have always needed in this game is an active friends list and a block list. Permanent squelch would solve a lot of issues. I know it has been brought up countless times in the last 20 years so its probably never going to happen.
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I want to know where and how much ZE paid to get reverse installed in his brew :salute
:cheers:
Eagler
I have nothing but I paid a lot... :D :salute :salute
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:salute to all
I would like to apologize for asking this, but looking for your thoughts about the comments that frequently occur on channel 200. I never participated in channel 200 because, at first, I did not know of its existence, then when I started following it, I believed that it was an open space to increase friendship and camaraderie among AH virtual pilots. However, over time, I can see that I was wrong, and it has become nothing more than a space where some, rather childish, people are insulting and sincerely act arrogant.
Although some take this “game” so seriously, I want to remind you that it is simply a game and nothing like real life. Maybe some, like me, are already retired, with enough age and experience in “real” life to understand to not give that importance to the game, and to those virtual arrogant heroes who belittle other players for their lack of ability as a pilot or because use an inferior plane, or because tactically they play more defensively and as a team, rather than offensive and individual, you are not helping to the game survival. Everyone plays in their own way and uses the plane they want as best they can if that gives them the pleasure of continuing in this game. Although they are not asking me, my humble opinion is that this does more harm than good to the game – already diminished in itself – and scares away new players.
If you believe you are superior to others, and you live barking like a dog, you are probably the opposite of what you shout and in real life your achievements are few and insignificant. Maybe I'm wrong but insulting via virtual is useless – to say the less-…
ZE
BTW: open for any private duel to learn my lesson and it's OK.... :salute
Channel 200 is a crap shoot. For the most part it is a fun way to talk to other players and have some fun, but as ZE stated there are some Aholes who cant stand being shot down or cant understand why some players play the way they play, or fly the planes they fly. Squelch those players that annoy you ( .squelch playersname). There are very few I squelch these days. Ten years ago I would spend half the night squelching players. The guys that are a pain in the neck these days are amateurs and arent worth the time it takes to squelch them.
I just look for fights.....in planes.... Sure Ill call out those one or two guys who MUST HO, or dive in from 25K in a pony to pick, but we all know THOSE players. ZE I have never had a problem with. Hes always a tough kill even tho he is most always low and slow in that Brewster with 2 or 3 guys on him. When a player is fighting out numbered I always give them a break. I KNOW they are going to take any shot they can just to survive the fight.
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Channel 200 is a crap shoot. For the most part it is a fun way to talk to other players and have some fun, but as ZE stated there are some Aholes who cant stand being shot down or cant understand why some players play the way they play, or fly the planes they fly.
Yeah nah, some people do fly a certain way. For example I HO, I have my reasons for it (usually a 37mm that can reach out and touch you in personal places). Call me out on #200 and I will admit it. ZE on the other hand is in denial. I've watched the way he plays and he is quite predictable - a high brew, usually 10k+, won't engage 1 on 1, comes back when lower cons are engaged.
Now don't get me wrong, it's his money that pays his sub - so he can play any way he likes. But don't have a cry when people call you out on it.
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Love it when you are called out for hoing when your ho disintegrates them before their ho reaches you :joystick:
If you see a g2 with gonds it will ho if it is me..maybe not so much in the k4
Live with it - I suggest staying out of my 10 to 2
:cheers:
Eagler
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AH is nothing more than a game in the absence of cross community chat.
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HO seems to be eternal source of whining in every combat sim. It happened in real world and it happens in sims. It's perhaps not my favorite method but sometimes it's the only solution to try to survive or save your buddy/VH/dar etc. in rapidly changing situations during hectic battle. And those who cry after been killed in HO should remember; always two participants in it. Just turn away and there is no HO.
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Love it when you are called out for hoing when your ho disintegrates them before their ho reaches you :joystick:
If you see a g2 with gonds it will ho if it is me..maybe not so much in the k4
Live with it - I suggest staying out of my 10 to 2
:cheers:
Eagler
And you say all you want to do is fight. A HO isnt a fight, its a joust with a 50-50 chance to either player with a bit of a tip in favor of the one with cannons.
HO seems to be eternal source of whining in every combat sim. It happened in real world and it happens in sims. It's perhaps not my favorite method but sometimes it's the only solution to try to survive or save your buddy/VH/dar etc. in rapidly changing situations during hectic battle. And those who cry after been killed in HO should remember; always two participants in it. Just turn away and there is no HO.
I can understand it in real life because it was life or death. But again, here we are playing a game. If the challenge is to shoot down your opponent by maneuvering your plane to a point where you have a shot with out giving the other guy a shot, why cut corners to run a 50-50 deal? If your not up for the challenge, why bother playing the game?
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Yeah nah, some people do fly a certain way. For example I HO, I have my reasons for it (usually a 37mm that can reach out and touch you in personal places). Call me out on #200 and I will admit it. ZE on the other hand is in denial. I've watched the way he plays and he is quite predictable - a high brew, usually 10k+, won't engage 1 on 1, comes back when lower cons are engaged.
Now don't get me wrong, it's his money that pays his sub - so he can play any way he likes. But don't have a cry when people call you out on it.
Vulcan,
I don't have too many opportunities to fight you; you kill me sometimes, but please review how do you fly in the game and see if it is you using much different tactics than mine.
Detail what I'm in deniel??. I'm not in denial any:
- I will try to be on top of enemies (which I don't do often since I fly a plane that doesn't match others in a dive )
- I will try to take advance if the enemy is distracted killing others and don't see me coming ( like everybody else ); war is not a honorable fight where you wait for a plane to kill your friend and then you engage. Many people have killed me while I was flying on another plane.
- I will choose a plane that is low and slow ( guess you do the same as others )
- I will use the slow and lower performance plane in the game ( Nasty Brewster ) since it is the only one I know how to flight .
- I do engage 1 on 1 if I believe have some advantage ( like many I try not to fight if I know i will die ) not on a suicide mode. I resume my offer to be able DA challenge to test and learn my lesson on one on one, who knows... maybe I must retire from this game as well....
All I said is the 200 channel should be more for enjoy with friends, comments on others flight tactics to learn and encourage camaraderie. There should not be a channel to insult players or yapping around that you are the best. This is not about me, even though I have been named ( as well others ) to do this or that...
Sorry if you feel like I'm doing something wrong, but I don't deny my combat flying style and hope to learn how to kill any plane I can using the Brew without being accused of something.
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The thing we have always needed in this game is an active friends list and a block list. Permanent squelch would solve a lot of issues. I know it has been brought up countless times in the last 20 years so its probably never going to happen.
World War II Online has this from what I know it is crazy that this game doesn't.
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And you say all you want to do is fight. A HO isnt a fight, its a joust with a 50-50 chance to either player with a bit of a tip in favor of the one with cannons.
I can understand it in real life because it was life or death. But again, here we are playing a game. If the challenge is to shoot down your opponent by maneuvering your plane to a point where you have a shot with out giving the other guy a shot, why cut corners to run a 50-50 deal? If your not up for the challenge, why bother playing the game?
So we are again in "fight as I say or stay away"-situation. And in a division of gamers and virtual pilots. As I wrote in another topic some time ago, self-declared elite of every sim seems to be very eager to give orders they are not authorized. Orders often masked as questions, hints or advices. To tell the others, what is fun and what is not, how they have to fight according to The Code of Ivory Tower Warriors.
You have to either turn away every time there's a probability to face HO, or ask HiTech if you can have authority to kick my kind of inept and unskilled noobies out and block them forever. Then you can have just dogfighting skillful obedient pilots. Masses of them, real hoards. No bombers, no jabos, neither GVs nor CVs or BCs. Just eternal fun in sunshine.
Over and out
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I loathe HOs with passion. Probably conditioned from AW where it was highly frowned upon.
But since being back here, it seems like the #1 go-to tactic. Therefore, as soon as an AC lines up in my sights, I just open up at 2k out and unload everything I have until one of us die. Its one thing that it happened in RL, its disgusting as a #1 tactic. It wasn’t their first choice in RL, but I guess I’m outnumbered. I’m disgusted with myself for being a part of it.
At times, depending on enemy country, 7 out of 10 flights end in HO. One country, I swear, its all they know and do, even with a horde to back them up at 7-1 odds. Some have made an art of it. Pay and fly as they will, but don’t rank yourself high when 60% of kills come from HOing. Its dweebleville.
I’ll be up getting HOed tonight.
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So we are again in "fight as I say or stay away"-situation. And in a division of gamers and virtual pilots. As I wrote in another topic some time ago, self-declared elite of every sim seems to be very eager to give orders they are not authorized. Orders often masked as questions, hints or advices. To tell the others, what is fun and what is not, how they have to fight according to The Code of Ivory Tower Warriors.
You have to either turn away every time there's a probability to face HO, or ask HiTech if you can have authority to kick my kind of inept and unskilled noobies out and block them forever. Then you can have just dogfighting skillful obedient pilots. Masses of them, real hoards. No bombers, no jabos, neither GVs nor CVs or BCs. Just eternal fun in sunshine.
Over and out
Strike a bone? My question wasnt masking anything it was a true question. Why would you play a dogfighting game if your not planning on dogfighting?
As for dodging every pass, I do try to, some of the best players in the game avoid ALL HO attempts and still win the vast majority of their fights. Why? because they know how to fight and dont bother to waste time HOing. Do I HO? yes, mostly when Im tired of dodging all night, or when know the guy coming at me is going to HO again. coming at me. Ill blast away and just reup a new plane and look for a different fight.
Like Animal, I learned in Air Warrior too. Much like I still hold doors open for women, its the way I was brought up.
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Outnumbered I will ho if in g2..whine all you want
Psst I can't ho you if you don't fly towards my 10 to 2
Not everyone flies a lazy susan spit with one ping lazers...though it seems like it sometimes lol
If you don't like my ho when you explode - please ask me to duel you 1v1 so I can try to kill you in h2h..
Some don't even know the difference from a ho and a rope
You use the technique for the situation that you think will kill the other guy while you survive
Eagler
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Outnumbered I will ho if in g2..whine all you want
Psst I can't ho you if you don't fly towards my 10 to 2
Not everyone flies a lazy susan spit with one ping lazers...though it seems like it sometimes lol
If you don't like my ho when you explode - please ask me to duel you 1v1 so I can try to kill you in h2h..
Some don't even know the difference from a ho and a rope
You use the technique for the situation that you think will kill the other guy while you survive
Eagler
I totally understand the concept,... and I got nothing to say when out numbered. But when I'm outnumbered 5 or 7-1 (which seems to be my norm) and 3 of the 5 line up for HO on first merge,.... that's not a pilot, that's a point/kill hungry gamer. That's when I start heating up. It's just armature. That said, we are a mix of seasoned and armature pilots. SO then there's that. :)
The HO debate goes back 30 yrs.
The opening of my last video is spraying an HOer, he lined up for an HO, it was almost a ram had I not tilted But in the long fight with another pilot we did everything BUT HO, and that's how a fight should go >IMO<
- Peanut Gallery
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And you say all you want to do is fight. A HO isnt a fight, its a joust with a 50-50 chance to either player with a bit of a tip in favor of the one with cannons.
I'd say a center mounted 37mm cannon gives you more than a 50/50 chance. And the good thing is BnZ types in their ponies with to much E usually lock themselves into a flight path making a long distance 37mm shot viable.
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Outnumbered I will ho if in g2..whine all you want
Psst I can't ho you if you don't fly towards my 10 to 2
Not everyone flies a lazy susan spit with one ping lazers...though it seems like it sometimes lol
If you don't like my ho when you explode - please ask me to duel you 1v1 so I can try to kill you in h2h..
Some don't even know the difference from a ho and a rope
You use the technique for the situation that you think will kill the other guy while you survive
Eagler
HO passes happen especially in multi plane fights but that doesnt mean you have to pull the trigger. I try not to pull the trigger in those instances, and just look to avoid a HO/collision. Im always working to get into a position for a shot where my opponent doesnt have one.
I'd say a center mounted 37mm cannon gives you more than a 50/50 chance. And the good thing is BnZ types in their ponies with to much E usually lock themselves into a flight path making a long distance 37mm shot viable.
With the lob in that thing, for most people its probably less that 50-50 :devil That predictable path helps any one who knows to look for it..... and now I do :neener:
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But since being back here, it seems like the #1 go-to tactic. Therefore, as soon as an AC lines up in my sights, I just open up at 2k out and unload everything I have until one of us die. Its one thing that it happened in RL, its disgusting as a #1 tactic. It wasn’t their first choice in RL, but I guess I’m outnumbered. I’m disgusted with myself for being a part of it.
Heh. Well, you SHOULD be disgusted with yourself, Animal, you're better than that, if only because you've been around longer!
As you say, the HO debate has been around forever. Fugitive may have nicked Eagler with the all-for-the-fight observation, but truth is, I've never seen Eagler HO.
On the other hand: You, and I, Fugitive and Eagler have been doing this for nearly three decades. There's absolutely no reason why someone with less experience shouldn't be able to use a tactic that offsets that knowledge. Same thing with aeroplanes; Spit 16s give a useful handicap. I can't think of any good reason for complaining about HOs or picking (I do draw the line at vulching and ganging, though).
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In Air Warwarrior the head on hit bubble in the Arena was set so that most head on hits didnt register. Many pilots in ww2 used frontal assaults as a tactic mostly in the Pacific.
. Avoiding a HO is simple go left ,up, down or right lol
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Heh. Well, you SHOULD be disgusted with yourself, Animal, you're better than that, if only because you've been around longer!
As you say, the HO debate has been around forever. Fugitive may have nicked Eagler with the all-for-the-fight observation, but truth is, I've never seen Eagler HO.
On the other hand: You, and I, Fugitive and Eagler have been doing this for nearly three decades. There's absolutely no reason why someone with less experience shouldn't be able to use a tactic that offsets that knowledge. Same thing with aeroplanes; Spit 16s give a useful handicap. I can't think of any good reason for complaining about HOs or picking (I do draw the line at vulching and ganging, though).
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I think with me is, I have limited time to play. I fly 15 min or more to get alt and speed up,....just to have that time wasted on a quick HO. Heck, just vultch me on the runway and spare some time lol. <shrug> I quickly get over 2-3 per night,...but when I'm HOed dead 7-8 of 10 flights,. which is about my nightly run..it's a bit overboard. It has happened more than 5 times. One country has squad nights, and you fly into that horde and every one of them is HOing ya.
And good point on the longer time put in. I make the same points now as I did then, and like then, it's just going to be. It would be more realistic in the reality if it toned down a bit. Prolly has a lot to do with playing a sim as a game.
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CH200 has often, and traditionally been used to call out gamey behavior, for example, such as deliberately snap rolling and looking like a flopping fish to mess with the visuals on the guy trying to shoot you down. Used to be a FW move because of the roll rate, but it can be done with any plane and it's becoming endemic.
Would you expect to receive a <S> from the guy you did it to?
Following that logic, one makes cheap, sketchy moves with their real life if they resort to it in a game, apparently.
<edit: what about the foul language you see many players use, that doesn't seem to bother you?>
Jesus dude let it go..I did that one time and you just won't move on....BTW I'm preparing for your fav 5 insults including my fav .."weak sauce ankle humper" I really get a laugh from those
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In Air Warwarrior the head on hit bubble in the Arena was set so that most head on hits didnt register. Many pilots in ww2 used frontal assaults as a tactic mostly in the Pacific.
. Avoiding a HO is simple go left ,up, down or right lol
Ya, When one did achieve an HO in AW it was certainly intentional, ya had to put some lead into it. I tweaked the instant kill/explosion down a bit more in the later days of the bubble. My version was only used on a scenario (for crowd testing/approval) and Full Realism arena. The cockpit is a more narrow shot H2H than it was allowing.
I avoid them often, not all the time. It's just a pet peeve of mine. Once in a while kewl, it was done, 5 of 10 flights ZZzzzzz. <shrug>
It's that guy who turns in as his intent that I just start unloading from 2k-. Might as well beat em at their own game.
It will never change, and I'll prolly never stop sniveling about it lol.
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Jesus dude let it go..I did that one time and you just won't move on....BTW I'm preparing for your fav 5 insults including my fav .."weak sauce ankle humper" I really get a laugh from those
HA!,... some of it reminds me of Ernest T. Bass yelling throwing rocks. It does tend to have a creative humor.
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CH200 has often, and traditionally been used to call out gamey behavior, for example, such as deliberately snap rolling and looking like a flopping fish to mess with the visuals on the guy trying to shoot you down. Used to be a FW move because of the roll rate, but it can be done with any plane and it's becoming endemic.
Would you expect to receive a <S> from the guy you did it to?
Following that logic, one makes cheap, sketchy moves with their real life if they resort to it in a game, apparently.
<edit: what about the foul language you see many players use, that doesn't seem to bother you?>
I've watched so many films, that floppy is not always intentional. In films it's because the joystick movement data of another plane just isn't there.... which leads me down the path it could be from connection or something running in the bkg of that device stuttering the data flow.
I've got someone on my 6 a LOT. My view sticks to rear view and I'll roll or what ever to move out of the path of the rounds, ya gonna work for it, I don't pose for kill shots. :)
It's an online game with a lot of moving parts and variables.
Even though it's an easy ditch to fall into, policing how others fly/play will make you crazy, it never succeeds. Play the way you play and maybe their butts will follow. That's the best yull get out of it.
Except HOers, HOers must DIE DIE DIE!!! ;)
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Funny, I was directly referring to ZE doing it (see film in forum)... but nice of you to step up and admit to it. :joystick:
Kind of goes to what I said..."it's becoming endemic." :joystick:
Jesus dude let it go..I did that one time and you just won't move on....BTW I'm preparing for your fav 5 insults including my fav .."weak sauce ankle humper" I really get a laugh from those
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Funny, I was directly referring to ZE doing it (see film in forum)... but nice of you to step up and admit to it. :joystick:
Kind of goes to what I said..."it's becoming endemic." :joystick:
of course I'll admit it I have no shame I did it tonight against yucca k4 anything to stay alive same with people cutting the engine off or dropping landing gear or the HO or dogfighting against a set of bombers out turning me ETC even if it's gamey you can't make people fly the way you want them to and why would you? It's a game nothing more nothing less I'm paying to have fun and be insulted on 200 I do get my money's worth
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A real HO is a work of art
It's not opening up at 1.5k, flying full bore straight at each other while squeezing the trigger and waiting for one of you to pop...
Internet connections aside, in a good ho you are slightly to one side of the approaching plane and are at a slight angle from directly headon
You hit the plane at more of a 11 or 1 o'clock than a straight 12
It disintegrates and you avoid the debris as it sails past
VR helps with all aiming imo
Was accused of hoing when I popped a plane diving down out of his rope into my climbing g2
I would rather t&b with anyone and do it more than ho but I wouldn't not ho in a crowd just so I don't hurt the hordes feelings lol
I also like to turn from a t&b fight I was engaged in to face shoot a picker trying to slide in for the easy kill
G2 with gonds is perfect for it
:cheers:
Eagler
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:salute all
I don't move my joystick fast since the joystick is locked easily and can't control it anymore, but I understand in this game piltos can do whatever they need to avoid been killed . If you review some information from real WW2 fighter pilots, they also was forced sometimes to do unusual manuevers to avoid being killed. For example, as Donnald Brian mentioned in the Dogfitgh History Channel episode at 11:00 = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13n2Z4_hwrQ&t=1768s (he named invertical inverse reverse). I have witnessed great AH piltos do those manuevers when they get me on their six, but I don't complain about that and is OK of they do that... This is a game and we play it like we want it.
I try to play in the best of my knowledge and play the game of my plane ( not enemy want me to play ) and be happy about it.
Back to the theme, reporting in channel 200 that someone is cheating without proving it is useless; barking that you were killed because of this or that, insulting and mentioning that you are the best... is useless.
For a moment, think about what happens if Aces High goes down on more pilots to the point that we don't have this fun anymore... Being more friendly and calling friends to get into this game is a better option....
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It's sad what 200 has become, I was watching some of Vudu's older videos the other day, and 200 was mostly people complimenting others on their flying, shooting and tactics.
Sure, there were people arguing and being generally unhappy about getting shot, but it was far from the constant cheating accusations and other bad attitude stuff we see these days, and that was when a lot more people were playing!
Just my 2c
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ZE is always a great fight. My brewster hero
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ZE is always a great fight. My brewster hero
Everyone flying B-239 successfully is a hero. He was my childhood one with 39 B-239 kills. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Wind)
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Everyone flying B-239 successfully is a hero. He was my childhood one with 39 B-239 kills. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Wind)
Thanks guys but there are a bunch of good pilots in this game that really show me how bad I fly and kill me almost in every encounter...
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The HO is generally easily avoidable of you aren't in a 1 circle fight already. The best way to avoid the HO is to do a Z like pattern before crossing, starting at 1k out. At 1k, go left for 2 seconds, right for 2 seconds, then left under their nose if you know they are going to shoot. As you cross, set your angle at 30° off their nose (they are in your 10 or 2 o'clock pos) and have your nose slightly in the vert as you cross, so that you are already starting your emmilman and have your angle as he is shooting. 9/10 times you will beat them in the circle fight just off that merge because you started early while they were wasting time shooting.
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200 is a crap shoot. I still keep it tuned though.
I’ve been “vocal” in the past and still get that way occasionally. A lot of it has to do with playing styles and mostly calling people out for (admittedly my perception of) poor sportsmanship. I understand that people pay their $ to play their way but is does get on my nerves like nothing else when I’m in an epic fight to get bounced by someone who couldn’t “fight” their way out of a wet paper bag with a pair of scissors. Just as bad (actually worse) is when I have my 12 cleared after doing all the work.
As to the peeps that use the “they did it in the war” excuse, I argue that the MA is not that at all. You have unlimited planes and GVs for your buck. The MA is a sandbox to have fun and engage with other players. If everyone flew like they only had one plane and their lives actually depended on the outcome, this game wouldn’t last a week. Save the need to survive at all costs and only engage when it’s safe for FSO and scenarios.
But what is completely intolerable on 200 is the politics. I log on to escape reality. I don’t need you shoveling your BS on 200 that has nothing even remotely to do with the game.
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I had a guy accuse me off flying a spit once! 200 can get really nasty!
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I had a guy accuse me off flying a spit once! 200 can get really nasty!
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How dare someone accuse you of such :rofl :cheers:
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I had a guy accuse me off flying a spit once! 200 can get really nasty!
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That's terrible. :rofl
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I had a guy accuse me off flying a spit once! 200 can get really nasty!
Maybe he tried to comfort you after that kind of traumatic experience?
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But what is completely intolerable on 200 is the politics. I log on to escape reality. I don’t need you shoveling your BS on 200 that has nothing even remotely to do with the game.
Agreed.
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How dare someone accuse you of such :rofl :cheers:
The horror, the horror, the horror….
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The HO is generally easily avoidable of you aren't in a 1 circle fight already. The best way to avoid the HO is to do a Z like pattern before crossing, starting at 1k out. At 1k, go left for 2 seconds, right for 2 seconds, then left under their nose if you know they are going to shoot. As you cross, set your angle at 30° off their nose (they are in your 10 or 2 o'clock pos) and have your nose slightly in the vert as you cross, so that you are already starting your emmilman and have your angle as he is shooting. 9/10 times you will beat them in the circle fight just off that merge because you started early while they were wasting time shooting.
When I’m not feeling fed up,… I just nose down and loop back over onto their 6. The nose down gives a little more E for the loop, coming down from the loop adds E back to get on their 6 for the kill shot. When I get fed up or slow E I give a few burst at 2k as a warning then at 1500 I just start unloading. Not great chances with wing guns, nose guns they become mist. Don’t HO with a opposing nose gun ac.
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Here we going again... have been accused on this channel of the following combat tactics :
1. Fly at 20k and dive to pick someone to kill.( never been at 20 k in this game but in any case this is a common tactic for fighter pilots )
2. Choose anyone fighting with a member of my team and get on his sixth and try to kill him. ( I have been killed many times in this same situation and there is nothing wrong with this, another common tactic for real fighter pilots )
3. Participated in a hourde fight and killed pilots that were expected to be killed in these situations.
4. always fight in company of others of my team and take advantage of that, when they fight first, I go and try to kill when the enemy is not looking at me. ( I will do anything I can, I will not expect enemies to kill my friend and later start a fight with them. Usually, ask my team members before I get involved )
5. Whatever any other wrong is doing in this game.
Looks like I'm the only "bad" guy in this game, with unusual, cheater or "unethical" tactics ?. To be honest, some tire of these romantic ladies yapping in channel 200 this or that, with their hurt feelings, a low quality pilot and plane can kill them ( how there him.... ). Respect for some pilots that, instead of yapping, get a Brewster or their preferred plane and kill me many times ( example LatinLuv, RudBoy, and many others )
If one on one is what you need, don't expect me... go to the challenge arena and not in the MA. War is not romantic but nasty and dirty. I would like to ask anyone if this game is about romanticism and if I'm in the wrong game ???
I will take a break from the game and on channel 200, till I feel those ladies recover from the trauma inflicted by this low quality pilot (me) and the nasty Brewster, and to avoid more confrontations on this channel, I will quit using it in the future, since now I understand what this channel is for, I was wrong....
:salute
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