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Title: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Connery on December 10, 2023, 02:46:56 PM
Hey All, I used to fly with "The Few" yet have not played the game I think since perhaps 2011. I had a brief foray in 2022 but being in Europe during my peak times there was a distinct lack of players.

I have read numbers are down etc, but how bad is it really? Are there any really active squads that play regularly, I might resub and only play late on Friday/Saturday nights if that's when I need to play to get some bigger numbers.

What is the game like now just in terms of activity and not having to fly for 30 minutes to get in a furball ?

Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hazmatt on December 10, 2023, 02:50:25 PM
My advice would be to take a test run for a month and see if you like it. Otherwise you're gonna make your decision based on the biased opinions of others in my biased opinion. :)
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Dadtallica on December 10, 2023, 02:54:06 PM
110-130 in the MA nightly. A bit more inflated on Fridays and Saturdays, especially on FSO nights. Winter has a bump too. Plus others do weekly side stuff in other arenas. It’s still super fun and there is a lot of new stuff depending on when you last played.

I have been back a year and am glad I did it. For me I prefer not being in a squad these days but I like being available help out wherever
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Bruv119 on December 11, 2023, 01:49:58 PM
I think the game is still what you make of it. 

I've found some fights everytime i've popped my head in and some of the new maps may encourage further combat.   However we both know you have no patience or tolerance for the types of gameplay that became commonplace and they still occur frequently.   
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: fd ski on December 12, 2023, 05:39:37 AM
few are non-existent in euro times. Maybe if Bruv would show up more often.....
but given lack of events in that time zone that's quite irrelevant.

Numbers are low, I'm sorry to say. It is a challenge to find a fight on early weekdays.

but..... it is still fun once you find a good and balanced fight. Most names are old hands, most fights are pretty challenging.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Icer on December 12, 2023, 06:45:05 AM
Hey All, I used to fly with "The Few" yet have not played the game I think since perhaps 2011. I had a brief foray in 2022 but being in Europe during my peak times there was a distinct lack of players.

I have read numbers are down etc, but how bad is it really? Are there any really active squads that play regularly, I might resub and only play late on Friday/Saturday nights if that's when I need to play to get some bigger numbers.

What is the game like now just in terms of activity and not having to fly for 30 minutes to get in a furball ?

I was in the same position, thinking about the "old days" of good squad play and big numbers.. those days are long gone (as appears is Hitech's attention and the possibility of updates). Living in the EU, combined with the whining and cheating going on, has just turned me away. I'm just too old for all the childish nonsense anymore. Plenty of activity for EU/UK timezone squad play in BMS Falcon, IL-2 and DCS.... had high hopes.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 12, 2023, 11:28:15 AM
I was in the same position, thinking about the "old days" of good squad play and big numbers.. those days are long gone (as appears is Hitech's attention and the possibility of updates). Living in the EU, combined with the whining and cheating going on, has just turned me away. I'm just too old for all the childish nonsense anymore. Plenty of activity for EU/UK timezone squad play in BMS Falcon, IL-2 and DCS.... had high hopes.

Sorry to see you leave Icer, I would point out though, claims of cheating are NOT in fact cheats. Most of those types of comments come from players trying to explain away, their own failures. There maybe a couple of current players smart enough to develop some type of cheat in the game, but I doubt it. In addition, why spend the time to develop a cheat for a game with an average of 120 players in prime time?  :salute
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Icer on December 12, 2023, 12:01:45 PM
Sorry to see you leave Icer, I would point out though, claims of cheating are NOT in fact cheats. Most of those types of comments come from players trying to explain away, their own failures. There maybe a couple of current players smart enough to develop some type of cheat in the game, but I doubt it. In addition, why spend the time to develop a cheat for a game with an average of 120 players in prime time?  :salute

I doubt there is much blatant "cheating", it's the changing sides to get/give info, ganging up on other players, and general BS gameplay that isn't worth the aggravation. Not to say, that without anyone really paying attention (development-wise) someone dedicated and smart enough can't develop cheats, I'm sure they can. I wish all well, but it's quite clear at this point my $$ and attention belong elsewhere..
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: mERv on December 12, 2023, 12:19:58 PM
I doubt there is much blatant "cheating", it's the changing sides to get/give info, ganging up on other players, and general BS gameplay that isn't worth the aggravation. Not to say, that without anyone really paying attention (development-wise) someone dedicated and smart enough can't develop cheats, I'm sure they can. I wish all well, but it's quite clear at this point my $$ and attention belong elsewhere..

The fights are a live and well. The number fluctuations throughout the day create unique opportunities for engagements. Obviously the best times to play are evenings for the greatest action but the game is active stoll at all times of day.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Simon on December 12, 2023, 01:10:33 PM
it's quite clear at this point my $$ and attention belong elsewhere..

Icer, please do not let this forum sway your decision on whether or not to resubscribe. The members here represent a very small percentage of the players, and include several that don't even play at all. The opinions are highly skewed as a result.

The vast majority of players do not experience harrassment, or questionable tactics at all. They go about their business, having fun in their own way, and have no idea about the drama or politics that surround a few. Staying away from channel 200 is highly recommended.

My suggestion would be to invest the 15 Euros and see for yourself. The worst that can happen is you're out a few bucks. The best that can happen is you're out a whole lot more bucks.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Icer on December 12, 2023, 01:22:41 PM
Icer, please do not let this forum sway your decision on whether or not to resubscribe. The members here represent a very small percentage of the players, and include several that don't even play at all. The opinions are highly skewed as a result.

The vast majority of players do not experience harrassment, or questionable tactics at all. They go about their business, having fun in their own way, and have no idea about the drama or politics that surround a few. Staying away from channel 200 is highly recommended.

My suggestion would be to invest the 15 Euros and see for yourself. The worst that can happen is you're out a few bucks. The best that can happen is you're out a whole lot more bucks.

Thanks Simon, I do understand the drama aspect of Forums, been going on since Compuserve in the 80's. It's a combination of negative factors for me, the major one being that I find lone-wolf play quite boring. Being in EST +6 i'm likely not going to find cohesive groups/squadrons playing at all, and then I narrow it down even more because I find just jumping into furballs (group/squad or not) a total waste of my time. Missions/Objectives/Group tactics are all I am interested in, I don't see (finding that group to fly with) happening here. Maybe if I was still in the US I would have a slim chance, but I chose to live in paradise so it's on me..
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Oldman731 on December 12, 2023, 03:21:47 PM
Missions/Objectives/Group tactics are all I am interested in, I don't see (finding that group to fly with) happening here.


Possibly you should talk to Merv, he's a proponent of that style.

- oldman
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: The Fugitive on December 12, 2023, 03:55:35 PM
Thanks Simon, I do understand the drama aspect of Forums, been going on since Compuserve in the 80's. It's a combination of negative factors for me, the major one being that I find lone-wolf play quite boring. Being in EST +6 i'm likely not going to find cohesive groups/squadrons playing at all, and then I narrow it down even more because I find just jumping into furballs (group/squad or not) a total waste of my time. Missions/Objectives/Group tactics are all I am interested in, I don't see (finding that group to fly with) happening here. Maybe if I was still in the US I would have a slim chance, but I chose to live in paradise so it's on me..

It will only cost you $15 to sign up for a month and see for your self if the style of game play is available at your playing time. Dont base your decision on what you read here...... we except for this post....  :P
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: fd ski on December 12, 2023, 04:16:37 PM
Thanks Simon, I do understand the drama aspect of Forums, been going on since Compuserve in the 80's. It's a combination of negative factors for me, the major one being that I find lone-wolf play quite boring. Being in EST +6 i'm likely not going to find cohesive groups/squadrons playing at all, and then I narrow it down even more because I find just jumping into furballs (group/squad or not) a total waste of my time. Missions/Objectives/Group tactics are all I am interested in, I don't see (finding that group to fly with) happening here. Maybe if I was still in the US I would have a slim chance, but I chose to live in paradise so it's on me..

i get where you're coming from. My fondest memories of WB is when we had a squad night, 10 to 30 guys would get together, arena had 300+ people so we could always run a mission without risk of saturating place totally.

If we got together and organized into a euro time squad, we'd be flying missions of 10 planes to whack an empty field... no fun.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Lusche on December 12, 2023, 05:36:21 PM
If we got together and organized into a euro time squad, we'd be flying missions of 10 planes to whack an empty field... no fun.

This gives me some serious EW Arena flashbacks  :uhoh
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Animl-AW on December 13, 2023, 08:54:09 AM
The numbers are increasing. While other sims like dcs have lost 2k steam players this last yr.. IL-2 numbers are also dropping. Why there is an uptick in former players, now dcs players, post trying to recruit their numbers back from here, with passive aggressive replies you may see here. Ignore them.
 Its systematic.

A lot left before the AH3 update. So they don’t know what they have missed. The game went through a hiccup period, but a lot of former players returning. 9 months ago the average numbers in the MA was 95-112, it is now 110-140, occasional 160. Its possible to hit 180.

AH has the best implementation of VR, and unmatched multi-player than any other sim.

That said, there has recently been a pattern questionable post influencing negative input since a player was allowed back and a few firmer players got their panties in a wad, about a game they don’t even play, just here to recruit. Same people both situations. Ignore them, they have alternative motives for being here. I’m can safely guess they will join this thread.

Lots of great people still putting their hearts into the sim here. You’ll feel at home. Its a better sim since 2011. I returned after 14 yrs, having a blast, despite my failing stick.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Animl-AW on December 13, 2023, 09:16:07 AM
I was in the same position, thinking about the "old days" of good squad play and big numbers.. those days are long gone (as appears is Hitech's attention and the possibility of updates). Living in the EU, combined with the whining and cheating going on, has just turned me away.

Nonsense.
Not once was any true evidence been presented. Cheating talk is in every game. HT has made it extremely hard to cheat. Just because other sims are swiss cheese, it does not happen here, only the talk of it from sore losers. Whining is also in every sim/game. Especially those with fubar payment methods to pay for each plane or AI/Drone missions. A subscription is still lower.

We just prefer players stop broadcasting myths. You swallowed the hook, sorry.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Icer on December 13, 2023, 09:46:05 AM
Nonsense.
Not once was any true evidence been presented. Cheating talk is in every game. HT has made it extremely hard to cheat. Just because other sims are swiss cheese, it does not happen here, only the talk of it from sore losers. Whining is also in every sim/game. Especially those with fubar payment methods to pay for each plane or AI/Drone missions. A subscription is still lower.

We just prefer players stop broadcasting myths. You swallowed the hook, sorry.

Just to be clear, nothing you say, positive (yeah right) or negative means anything to me. Waste of your time typing, kind of like the waste of the air you breathe..
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Dadtallica on December 13, 2023, 10:09:54 AM
Just to be clear, nothing you say, positive (yeah right) or negative means anything to me. Waste of your time typing, kind of like the waste of the air you breathe..

Just wait until he sends you a private message!  :aok
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: CptTrips on December 13, 2023, 10:33:54 AM
Just wait until he sends you a private message!  :aok

You mean like this?

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,408051.msg5403311.html#msg5403311 (https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,408051.msg5403311.html#msg5403311)

or this?

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,408120.msg5407090.html#msg5407090 (https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,408120.msg5407090.html#msg5407090)

Or countless others?


Careful.  He'll threaten to quit.   

Again.

Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Mano on December 13, 2023, 04:26:53 PM
My biased opinion is: as mentioned earlier, give it a try for a month. Just
Do not get addicted. All of us can quit at anytime. We are not addicted.


 :salute

Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Shuffler on December 13, 2023, 04:27:51 PM
My biased opinion is: as mentioned earlier, give it a try for a month. Just
Do not get addicted. All of us can quit at anytime. We are not addicted.


 :salute

 :aok :aok :rofl
Uh yes, yes we can
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: fd ski on December 13, 2023, 04:29:51 PM
I've been playing this game for 20+ year now, with small breaks occasionally.

I'm yet to find a cheater. Few looked weird, but likely cased by lag. Some were just too good, but film review showed that it was me who sucked.

I've been accused of cheating few times, which i take as the highest complement.

There is number of problems in AH, cheating isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Dadtallica on December 13, 2023, 06:32:10 PM
I've been playing this game for 20+ year now, with small breaks occasionally.

I'm yet to find a cheater. Few looked weird, but likely cased by lag. Some were just too good, but film review showed that it was me who sucked.

I've been accused of cheating few times, which i take as the highest complement.

There is number of problems in AH, cheating isn't one of them.

Only cheating I ever witnessed first hand was the unlimited ammo Lancs. It was anyway back in the day.  Was a wild sight!
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hazmatt on December 13, 2023, 08:25:16 PM
Lets go there?

I've seen a couple things that are questionable but nothing I would be able prove as cheating so I've never accused anybody of cheating other then goofing around.

I have noticed that when I would shoot a random persons lanc and it would take damage like all the other lancs.

Then there are a couple players who when I shoot their lancs with the same plane at the same range etc that they would soak up the ammo and not take much damage. An example of this was when I shot a lanc with a 262 and upon reviewing the film I saw multiple 30mm hits on it that resulted in no visible damage and the lanc flew on as if nothing had happened.  Instead of accusing people of cheating I just figure that for some reason I must be shooting rubber bullets.

Another one is that it seems that there are a couple people who's .50 cals hit like .30mm shells. I figured they must have had a field modification to their plane or some special ammo or something. I've been in a maneuvering jug 1.3k from B17s and have had a wing torn off with one ping by one of these players.

Both of these are consistent with these players who it happens with. It's not some random thing. It's almost like they're loading an arena config file from their machine locally with the lethality and/or the plane toughness turned up.

The way I look at it is, if a person is cheating, they know it and they know that they are lame so I never made an issue of it. But since it came up I figured I'd throw it out there.


Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Dadtallica on December 13, 2023, 10:36:25 PM
I think this is confirmation bias lol. I do fair amount of bomber runs and there is always someone with an unlikely kill. I shoot like Mr Magoo in a fighter so I am no expert. I love flying a 51 but I’m terrible in it shooting, I can out fly or keep pace with you in it but I probably can’t kill you. Some people have the right convergence for those 50’s and can make them hurt a lot. The right player at the proper conv. with .50 calibers is a deadly combo.
Lets go there?

I've seen a couple things that are questionable but nothing I would be able prove as cheating so I've never accused anybody of cheating other then goofing around.

I have noticed that when I would shoot a random persons lanc and it would take damage like all the other lancs.

Then there are a couple players who when I shoot their lancs with the same plane at the same range etc that they would soak up the ammo and not take much damage. An example of this was when I shot a lanc with a 262 and upon reviewing the film I saw multiple 30mm hits on it that resulted in no visible damage and the lanc flew on as if nothing had happened.  Instead of accusing people of cheating I just figure that for some reason I must be shooting rubber bullets.

Another one is that it seems that there are a couple people who's .50 cals hit like .30mm shells. I figured they must have had a field modification to their plane or some special ammo or something. I've been in a maneuvering jug 1.3k from B17s and have had a wing torn off with one ping by one of these players.

Both of these are consistent with these players who it happens with. It's not some random thing. It's almost like they're loading an arena config file from their machine locally with the lethality and/or the plane toughness turned up.

The way I look at it is, if a person is cheating, they know it and they know that they are lame so I never made an issue of it. But since it came up I figured I'd throw it out there.



Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 14, 2023, 02:25:09 AM
Lets go there?

I've seen a couple things that are questionable but nothing I would be able prove as cheating so I've never accused anybody of cheating other then goofing around.

I have noticed that when I would shoot a random persons lanc and it would take damage like all the other lancs.

Then there are a couple players who when I shoot their lancs with the same plane at the same range etc that they would soak up the ammo and not take much damage. An example of this was when I shot a lanc with a 262 and upon reviewing the film I saw multiple 30mm hits on it that resulted in no visible damage and the lanc flew on as if nothing had happened.  Instead of accusing people of cheating I just figure that for some reason I must be shooting rubber bullets.

Another one is that it seems that there are a couple people who's .50 cals hit like .30mm shells. I figured they must have had a field modification to their plane or some special ammo or something. I've been in a maneuvering jug 1.3k from B17s and have had a wing torn off with one ping by one of these players.

Both of these are consistent with these players who it happens with. It's not some random thing. It's almost like they're loading an arena config file from their machine locally with the lethality and/or the plane toughness turned up.

The way I look at it is, if a person is cheating, they know it and they know that they are lame so I never made an issue of it. But since it came up I figured I'd throw it out there.

Well, I have noticed similar things but as we know, nobody has ever seen any cheats in AH, so they do not exist...  Like I have never seen Bolivian police officer, so they do not exist either.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 14, 2023, 12:17:57 PM
Well, I have noticed similar things but as we know, nobody has ever seen any cheats in AH, so they do not exist...  Like I have never seen Bolivian police officer, so they do not exist either.

You mean like " I have checks, I must have money"?
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: CptTrips on December 14, 2023, 12:24:33 PM
Just wait until he sends you a private message!  :aok

And if he is blocked from getting to your PM, he'll harrass you on YT.  I guess he didn't find a, sorry, another video he wanted to steal.   :rofl
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 14, 2023, 12:34:47 PM
You mean like " I have checks, I must have money"?

Message clearly not received in its original shape.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 14, 2023, 01:59:36 PM
Lol, oh I think it was. :devil
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 14, 2023, 03:45:48 PM
Probably not. But I just got muted on MA either by saying it's hard to defend base alone against 3 tanks and M3 or by telling there's a con fleet in front of our CV. Nice job from whoever did it. I have my doubts but as no evidence, I really hope he enjoys his anonymous might and power.

Taking that and schizophrenic "I'm the best and my aliases agree"-topics, it might really be time to consider "should I go to an another sim"-post. Too much deja vu from my older flying platform.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 14, 2023, 03:52:28 PM
Probably not. But I just got muted on MA either by saying it's hard to defend base alone against 3 tanks and M3 or by telling there's a con fleet in front of our CV. Nice job from whoever did it. I have my doubts but as no evidence, I really hope he enjoys his anonymous might and power.

Taking that and schizophrenic "I'm the best and my aliases agree"-topics, it might really be time to consider "should I go to an another sim"-post. Too much deja vu from my older flying platform.

No warning? just a mute? I have always been warned before a mute.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hazmatt on December 14, 2023, 03:54:44 PM
This is the same kinda crap that ran me off. No warning or something like "non-game discussion" on 200...
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 14, 2023, 03:56:40 PM
No warning? just a mute? I have always been warned before a mute.

No warning, nothing. And I was in country ch, not even on 200. That gives me one strong suspect who has shown clear dislike.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hazmatt on December 14, 2023, 03:59:42 PM
Ya. But who mods the mods? They obviously feel they can exercise their petty power on people they don't like for what ever reason or no reason at all.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: turt21 on December 14, 2023, 04:14:37 PM
how reachhim?
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: Dadtallica on December 14, 2023, 04:20:24 PM
I can’t speak for the Knight or Bish country chats but the Rook chat is rarely ever anything but goofball convos and hey help here, etc. I only play from 8P-11P EST too. What are all you even talking about to get muted on country.

I don’t do 200. I need a skin with that written on the nose for all planes.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 14, 2023, 05:24:08 PM
200 is not in my buffer either. Well, looks like there really are those, who's main purpose is to drive as many pilots out as possible. Wonder are they paid by someone or those who get million little ones just by imagining they are in control of everyone else. Feel sorry for those as they should seek for help.

This is my message to certain individuals:    (https://media.tenor.com/kCuYYlv3cbsAAAAM/jungwon-jwonanti.gif)
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: The Fugitive on December 14, 2023, 08:44:31 PM
No warning, nothing. And I was in country ch, not even on 200. That gives me one strong suspect who has shown clear dislike.

Well you can piss and moan, and speculate all you want, OR you can call/email Hitech with the date and time and he can look at the logs. WARNING, if you did push a MOD, or break rules, that is an automatic mute and he will let you know and in some cases everyone know. On the other hand you got muted by a group of players looking to shut you up with no reason you will get all privileges back and ALL those who reported you will be punished with much larger mutes.

Your choice, suffer a deserved mute, or push for righteous revenge.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 15, 2023, 02:06:15 AM

Your choice, suffer a deserved mute, or push for righteous revenge.


There is 3rd option, which is my choice; I let the muter enjoy his most probably personal revenge and leave revenging for those who have souls small enough. As there certainly was not one single offending or insulting text written by me, nor complaining.

I have strong feeling who caused it, as that particular person has spiked me even when I've written "GV alert base XX".
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: potsNpans on December 15, 2023, 08:41:18 AM
There still is a two week free trial to kick the tires and rev the engine. So come on, try it you might like it.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hazmatt on December 15, 2023, 11:07:59 AM
OR you can call/email Hitech with the date and time and he can look at the logs.

Not sure this is an option. Another player said he called Hitech to review the the reasons I was muted when I let everybody know I was taking a break because I was tired of it. The problem was that Hitech supposedly couldn't find any instances when I had been muted...
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hitech on December 15, 2023, 02:41:42 PM
Probably not. But I just got muted on MA either by saying it's hard to defend base alone against 3 tanks and M3 or by telling there's a con fleet in front of our CV. Nice job from whoever did it. I have my doubts but as no evidence, I really hope he enjoys his anonymous might and power.

Taking that and schizophrenic "I'm the best and my aliases agree"-topics, it might really be time to consider "should I go to an another sim"-post. Too much deja vu from my older flying platform.

You were not muted , mods have not muted anyone in December. And you do not show up in the reporting system.

HiTech
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: GasTeddy on December 15, 2023, 02:51:12 PM
You were not muted , mods have not muted anyone in December. And you do not show up in the reporting system.

HiTech

Thank you Sir. Then it must be a bug, as every time I typed something and hit enter, I got a box in upper left corner telling "You have been muted for XX minutes" or something like that.
Title: Re: Another "should I come back to the game" post
Post by: hazmatt on December 15, 2023, 03:16:29 PM
You were not muted , mods have not muted anyone in December.
HiTech

Sounds the same as what I was told. Hmmm