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Title: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: oboe on December 22, 2023, 03:38:02 PM
Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, Dec 1944
Pilot Lt Paul R McDowell

This is an adoption of ReDHawKs skin.   Nearly cut in two by a direct falk hit over Cologne on 15 October 1944.  She was repaired by the 441st Sub Depot using parts of other aircraft and went back into action.  She was finally salvaged after a belly landing on 4 April 1945.

Still have some more work to do on this one - the crew door is supposed to be bare metal, and the right side ID letters were an unusual arrangement that I have to work out.  The original did not have staggered waist gun windows like our model does.

Click images to enlarge
(https://i.imgur.com/EpGfVP1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/G0WMN4T.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vzCmClo.jpg)
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Devil 505 on December 22, 2023, 04:02:44 PM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: lyric1 on December 22, 2023, 05:39:57 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: JimmyD3 on December 22, 2023, 08:43:40 PM
Very nice Oboe.  :rock
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Banshee7 on December 22, 2023, 09:56:31 PM
Glad this is getting updated! I used to love this skin!
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Shane on December 22, 2023, 10:03:13 PM
very nice  :aok
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Greebo on December 23, 2023, 01:40:07 AM
Great skin Oboe, love a parts bin special.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Vraciu on December 26, 2023, 01:30:04 PM
The original Scatterbrain Kid.   Nice work.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Fencer51 on December 26, 2023, 07:44:05 PM
Beautiful.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: oboe on December 26, 2023, 09:40:06 PM
Thank you very much guys, here is the near final version. 

Click images to enlarge
(https://i.imgur.com/JRkiVRV.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/JSzxXkQ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/csnWTGd.jpg)

Some more information about her: 

Tony Starcer painted the pinup noseart.  After the aircraft suffered significant damage, she was repaired with parts from another aircraft, including the whole fuselage aft of the radio room and the right outer wing (parts believed to have come from the 303rd BG's "Walleroo Mk. 2", BN-X, serial number 42-31405).  Various cowlings were replaced as well, creating a colorful and diverse aircraft. Repair is said to have included parts from 13 different aircraft to keep Little Miss Mischief airworthy.   She was finally salvaged after a belly landing on 4 April 1945.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Devil 505 on December 26, 2023, 09:50:55 PM
Looks great, but I did just notice something that seems odd. Your Insignia Blue is darker than the black markings. Is that something seen in the reference photos?
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: oboe on December 26, 2023, 10:52:03 PM
The insignia I think is just carried over from the default skin.  I'll take a closer look at the reference photos I have available. 

I think I could darken the balck tail markings and at the same time fade the dark blue of the insignia a bit.  Thanks for noticing that, Devil.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Vraciu on December 27, 2023, 05:47:09 AM
The black needs darkening.  Start there before you touch the blue.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: oboe on December 27, 2023, 09:21:40 AM
This color photo shows the black tail markings darker than the star and bar insignia, which look somewhat more faded than mine.
(https://i.imgur.com/AxwBynf.jpg)

Looks like I also need to take the paint off the tail gunner hatch under the stabilizer, and add a touch of green overspray.  This B-17G does not have staggered waist gun positions, so my right waist gun window and the right insignia's position are swapped, an unfortunate but necessary concession.

In this B&W photo, the black tail triangle marking doesn't appear as dark as the dark blue of the insignia, though the serial numbers appear to be darker.
(https://i.imgur.com/m1mBtqE.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Vraciu on December 27, 2023, 11:16:29 AM
That first photo is badly desaturated overall.

Also, as we've seen, some film types can turn a dark color into near-white. 

 
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: oboe on December 27, 2023, 11:37:09 AM
Here's another color (colorized, I think) photo, but it doesn't show the areas of interest.  Still a nice clear photo...

(https://i.imgur.com/IBEAqEm.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: Citabria on December 29, 2023, 12:30:10 PM
I put together the original AH B-17g 3view modeling plans for Natedog all those years ago when he found that no good plans existed. It was a collage of an original Boeing b17f simple line drawing, a fantastic directly down top view photo and several other long range high definition photographs all put together and synthesized into the plans that he built the 3d wireframe over.

The part that still makes me smile is the cockpit canopy. Look how the real windshield is lower than the side windows on most b17s. A nuance missed by all those professional artists…

But the ah b17g nails it and in spite of its lower poly count the unique lines of the b17g are captured so exquisitely and so much better than any other game.

The magnificent skins like this one deserve nothing less.
Title: Re: Boeing B-17G-35-VE 91stBG, 324thBS, "Little Miss Mischief", RAF Bassingbourne, D
Post by: oboe on December 29, 2023, 02:10:23 PM
Thank you for the kind words, Citabria.   You and Natedog did a great job on the B-17G model.  It has really held up well over the years.   

Still has to be one of the most beautiful and recognizable shapes in all of WWII aviation history.