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Title: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Zacherof on January 23, 2024, 07:29:58 AM
Seems there’s been a lot of “ you shouldn’t have made that  :furious :furious “
I implore some of you to record record record. And see things from the other point of view and remember some planes have incredible responses to input as variable differnt speeds
(Ta152 and Corsair rudders comes to mind) and some people control thier e ahead of time and anticipate the “what could be moves” in stead of BnZ like a Dino killing meteor. Or the simple 2 different internet providers and 2 different computers meeting on a server. Some times things are off or delayed.



Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Spikes on January 23, 2024, 07:42:29 AM
Outta here with this logic...less effort to just call you a hack. :)
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: 1stpar3 on January 23, 2024, 08:07:05 AM
Seems there’s been a lot of “ you shouldn’t have made that  :furious :furious “
I implore some of you to record record record. And see things from the other point of view and remember some planes have incredible responses to input as variable differnt speeds
(Ta152 and Corsair rudders comes to mind) and some people control thier e ahead of time and anticipate the “what could be moves” in stead of BnZ like a Dino killing meteor. Or the simple 2 different internet providers and 2 different computers meeting on a server. Some times things are off or delayed.
Yeah,,"CHEATER/Some 3rd party shade app user!"   It gets tiresome.  Probably wouldn't help much but IF AcesHigh was compatible with 'Tack View' program,   screamers could be silenced? Yeah, we have AHFilm and it sort of covers the same info...but 'Tack View' is more user friendly IMHO?  I know...good luck with that :bolt:
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Eagler on January 23, 2024, 08:47:37 AM
Everyone should stop into MNM these days just to see how aim assist shows one what crazy lead is needed and how some of those impossible shots are done by those that might know those angles better than some

Eagler
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Drano on January 23, 2024, 09:13:28 AM
Yeah TACView would be a great learning tool. For those not familiar, it works like AHFilm with trails on and covers all the aircraft in the area but adds when shots were fired and whether they hit or missed, etc.

A lot of small tweaks to AH would go a long way. No reason to re-invent the wheel. Honestly, I don't see anything major ever happening to this game at this point. Heck I'd be happy if HT just made it OpenXR compatible!

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Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: The Fugitive on January 23, 2024, 09:34:33 AM
Seems there’s been a lot of “ you shouldn’t have made that  :furious :furious “
I implore some of you to record record record. And see things from the other point of view and remember some planes have incredible responses to input as variable differnt speeds
(Ta152 and Corsair rudders comes to mind) and some people control thier e ahead of time and anticipate the “what could be moves” in stead of BnZ like a Dino killing meteor. Or the simple 2 different internet providers and 2 different computers meeting on a server. Some times things are off or delayed.

Also, what you see in your film, no matter which plane your in, is going to be different than what the other guy saw as well.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Drano on January 23, 2024, 09:36:32 AM
^^^This. As has been discussed since the beginning of time. Not new.

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Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Lazerr on January 23, 2024, 11:16:13 AM
There was a guy ranting on 200 couple days back calling a guy a hack.  The hacker about 30 minutes prior was commenting on his mic not working.

I found it funny.  I assumed a guy that could hack a game would be able to troubleshoot a microphone.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: waystin2 on January 23, 2024, 11:25:24 AM
Some people cannot embrace their suckage.  If you cannot figure out what you did wrong that led to being shot down, then you will never improve.  :aok
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on January 23, 2024, 02:27:53 PM
Imagine this

The reactions of some being shot down in front of a female audience.

"I was in the pool!!"
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: LCADolby on January 23, 2024, 02:31:34 PM
SYSTEM MESSAGE: vinkman counted that "kill"
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: JimmyD3 on January 23, 2024, 03:21:27 PM
^^^This. As has been discussed since the beginning of time. Not new.

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Very true, Drano but you'll notice they don't want to believe it, so there you are. They don't want anyone "cluttering the issue with a bunch of facts". :D
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: The Fugitive on January 23, 2024, 08:28:13 PM
Some people cannot embrace their suckage.  If you cannot figure out what you did wrong that led to being shot down, then you will never improve.  :aok

The story of my life in this game!!!  I never know how I screwed up! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on January 23, 2024, 09:05:33 PM
Some people cannot embrace their suckage.  If you cannot figure out what you did wrong that led to being shot down, then you will never improve.  :aok

 A lot of people get the wrong, very common.

Ya hold your tongue out the left side of your mouth, not the right. Right is wrong Left is right.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: ROC on January 23, 2024, 11:31:12 PM
Standard reply, then .ignore idiot
Don't confuse "You can't do it" with "It can't be done"
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: waystin2 on January 25, 2024, 11:49:16 AM
Standard reply, then .ignore idiot
Don't confuse "You can't do it" with "It can't be done"
ROC!!! Whats up man!
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: mERv on January 25, 2024, 12:05:17 PM
I would say at least 25% of the time I get accused of cheating for making "the shot".

Now if I shot down 8k players last year that means I've been accused of cheating a thousand times!

Last year Haggerty said "Its no problem to be the best, but to be so much better than the best is going to bring accusations."

To my haters and accusers...Yall gotta understand your working with limited knowledge of what is possible in the game while remaining satisfied with the absolute dogchit game play and tactics that leads to your own demise.

I'm playing on 2 laptops with mouse and keyboard just wrecking these haters who's only remaining weapon is running their mouths on a smear campaign that carries no evidence.

Get good or get towered  :ahand
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: DmonSlyr on January 25, 2024, 02:05:36 PM
The amount of guys who park right on a bombers 6 astounds me. Though I must say, you have a far better aim than just about any other bomber pilot. Unfortunately hit % isn't scored in bomber mode. So there is nothing to compare you vs others by hit %.

That being said if a player was using aimbot or something, their hit % would be well in the 30% plus and maintaining that over 20 sorties would be near impossible if they weren't only vulching bombers the whole time. Thst would be how you could tell someone was cheating for the most part, unless they shot into the wind on occasion to mask it.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: scott66 on January 25, 2024, 08:01:36 PM
Does it really matter if you suck at a video game? Asking for a friend  ... you know in the grand scheme of things. Personally I own my suckage hell, I'm known for it but I still sleep well at night
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Oldman731 on January 25, 2024, 08:34:07 PM
Does it really matter if you suck at a video game? Asking for a friend  ... you know in the grand scheme of things. Personally I own my suckage hell, I'm known for it but I still sleep well at night


Heh.  Me, too!

- oldman
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: xanax on January 25, 2024, 09:27:12 PM

Heh.  Me, too!

- oldman

Me three! Is there a club or support group for this?
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: 1stpar3 on January 26, 2024, 06:55:46 AM
Does it really matter if you suck at a video game? Asking for a friend  ... you know in the grand scheme of things. Personally I own my suckage hell, I'm known for it but I still sleep well at night
WHAAAA?  Out of ammo, flying around going "Pew Pew PPPEW Pew" is suckage? :uhoh   NATIVE I SAY...counting Coup :aok  :kiss:
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Eagler on January 26, 2024, 07:46:56 AM
Does it really matter if you suck at a video game? Asking for a friend  ... you know in the grand scheme of things. Personally I own my suckage hell, I'm known for it but I still sleep well at night

Just shows little egos are everywhere these days and sadly they need constant stroking or they get upset and start making loud squeaky noises...

Eagler
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Morpheus on January 26, 2024, 08:47:50 AM
Standard reply, then .ignore idiot
Don't confuse "You can't do it" with "It can't be done"

I agree with you Roc and the age or time been with this game is WAAAY too young to even start explaining cheating crap or anything like that! :uhoh :rolleyes:<S> Morph

Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: scott66 on January 26, 2024, 07:44:18 PM
WHAAAA?  Out of ammo, flying around going "Pew Pew PPPEW Pew" is suckage? :uhoh   NATIVE I SAY...counting Coup :aok  :kiss:
all rumors!! Lol <S> hope all is well with you my ole friend
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: GasTeddy on January 27, 2024, 02:14:44 AM
There was a guy ranting on 200 couple days back calling a guy a hack.  The hacker about 30 minutes prior was commenting on his mic not working.

I found it funny.  I assumed a guy that could hack a game would be able to troubleshoot a microphone.

If mic is broken, hacking does not help. But yes, I put most of weird shots in a basket called lag, as mine is naturally higher because of distance from server. There are those who increase lag deliberately and benefit from it, but that needs real knowledge of timing, which I do not posses. Once tried via VPN at Training Arena and couldn't hit even stationary targets, let alone moving ones.

It is bit weird to be shot down by a con who's cockpit roof you were watching when hit, but wonderland of internet has many surprises for unaware sloths like me, who's reaction time is calculated rather by calendar. Latest yesterday I was following con who made practically no evading moves. From the D of my gun converge, shooting burst after burst and no hits at all.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: icepac on February 06, 2024, 05:08:44 AM
There are a few who’s go-to moves are mostly based on exploiting flight model idiosyncrasies.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on February 06, 2024, 10:59:29 AM
If mic is broken, hacking does not help. But yes, I put most of weird shots in a basket called lag, as mine is naturally higher because of distance from server. There are those who increase lag deliberately and benefit from it, but that needs real knowledge of timing, which I do not posses. Once tried via VPN at Training Arena and couldn't hit even stationary targets, let alone moving ones.

It is bit weird to be shot down by a con who's cockpit roof you were watching when hit, but wonderland of internet has many surprises for unaware sloths like me, who's reaction time is calculated rather by calendar. Latest yesterday I was following con who made practically no evading moves. From the D of my gun converge, shooting burst after burst and no hits at all.

Are you saying VPN causes lag issues? Because I find it hard hitting flying barn, and think VPN is enabled on that pc. Never thought of it, but it would make sense
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Brooke on February 07, 2024, 01:09:01 AM
Zacherof, who is my nephew, shot down my Dad in Masters of the Air.

He is not One of Our Boys.  He is one them guys we are fighting what are called "The Germans" or whatever.

Treachery, I say!

I allege that Zacherof was using one -- and possibly MORE than one! -- impossible shot to accomplish this foul deed.

Its a outrage!  (To quote yet another Zack.)
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: GasTeddy on February 07, 2024, 01:55:41 AM
Are you saying VPN causes lag issues? Because I find it hard hitting flying barn, and think VPN is enabled on that pc. Never thought of it, but it would make sense

It is increasing lag, as signal goes via scenic road instead of straight one.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Lusche on February 07, 2024, 04:17:08 AM
Are you saying VPN causes lag issues? Because I find it hard hitting flying barn, and think VPN is enabled on that pc. Never thought of it, but it would make sense

Unless the enemy lane is warping in & out of range, the amount of lag has no impact on your own gunnery, though. Shooting is resolved locally -  you are shooting at the representation of the enemy plane on your screen and you gotta hit that.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on February 07, 2024, 04:44:33 AM
Unless the enemy lane is warping in & out of range, the amount of lag has no impact on your own gunnery, though. Shooting is resolved locally -  you are shooting at the representation of the enemy plane on your screen and you gotta hit that.

I was thinking if the data was late it would effect where the plane should be.

Last night, I land 2-3 hits on a cockpit. Nothing. Sometimes I hit several times, nothing. Might as well be shooting blanks. There’s no way I’m that bad. Starting to get suspicious. I used to land 3-4 kills. I was doing better 5 months ago than i am now. Someone hits me once and I’m  dead. I’m going to run several test only I know about. There is no chance I’m that bad, even with a bad stick. I’m hitting, I’m only getting assist at best. Its like my bullets are at 50%. Like I’ve said before, they aren’t out flying me, I can’t kill them. I’ve gotten like 5 kills in a month. I was doing better my first week back. I lose.  every. Single. Ho and ram. 100%, even when I’m hitting cockpit and engine. If my results are different the whole world will know it.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: 1stpar3 on February 07, 2024, 05:54:53 AM
Zacherof, who is my nephew, shot down my Dad in Masters of the Air.

He is not One of Our Boys.  He is one them guys we are fighting what are called "The Germans" or whatever.

Treachery, I say!

I allege that Zacherof was using one -- and possibly MORE than one! -- impossible shot to accomplish this foul deed.

Its a outrage!  (To quote yet another Zack.)
:furious   Sister's kid? HAS TO BE?   That "them guys" roasted my burro( :rofl) the other day....the fuder.. I mean feller :bolt:   Eh, my Sis did same thing for me, with my Niece.....ULBlizz was a holy terror.  I wonder who trained her?   Yeah, I sort of own that :bhead   It is awesome though!  I now have a new thing to say when z hack ( :rofl) roasts me next time in MA..."Nef You"  :devil      Hehehehe   I got 2 assists on him in frame 1....hey, someone has to defend your honor  :devil  We have had some awesome fun, with and against each other in MA. He is a stand up guy, in my book.   Now your Sis, or Brother, on the other hand.....well this is a family (moderated) forum..so.... :cheers: Got to love em!
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: GasTeddy on February 07, 2024, 06:25:36 AM
Unless the enemy lane is warping in & out of range, the amount of lag has no impact on your own gunnery, though. Shooting is resolved locally -  you are shooting at the representation of the enemy plane on your screen and you gotta hit that.

Lag is the result of high ping. Ping is a measurement of how many milliseconds it takes for your computer to connect to the server and back. So if your ping is 80 it takes 80 milliseconds for your computer to connect to the server and then the server to connect back. The main giveaway for lag is that it causes delay in your gameplay, with your commands not being acted on by the game immediately. Things do not happen at screen but in server, and longer it takes command to reach the server, more it effects.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: LCADolby on February 07, 2024, 08:02:48 AM
Its a outrage!  (To quote yet another Zack.)

We certainly do need Zack1234 more and more each passing day on these boards  :old:
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Vulcan on February 07, 2024, 03:32:38 PM
Lag is the result of high ping. Ping is a measurement of how many milliseconds it takes for your computer to connect to the server and back. So if your ping is 80 it takes 80 milliseconds for your computer to connect to the server and then the server to connect back. The main giveaway for lag is that it causes delay in your gameplay, with your commands not being acted on by the game immediately. Things do not happen at screen but in server, and longer it takes command to reach the server, more it effects.

That's not quite correct with AH. AH is a client calculated engine, so your client calculates hits and collisions. "commands" are all executing locally. Where you do notice lag is if you hit an enemy, that hit is transmitted to the server, then the server relays it to the enemy and their client 'executes' the hit. Lag makes the hit take a moment longer than normal to register.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on February 07, 2024, 04:02:02 PM
Lag is the result of high ping. Ping is a measurement of how many milliseconds it takes for your computer to connect to the server and back. So if your ping is 80 it takes 80 milliseconds for your computer to connect to the server and then the server to connect back. The main giveaway for lag is that it causes delay in your gameplay, with your commands not being acted on by the game immediately. Things do not happen at screen but in server, and longer it takes command to reach the server, more it effects.

According to AH my ping is religiously 40-50.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on February 07, 2024, 04:04:24 PM
That's not quite correct with AH. AH is a client calculated engine, so your client calculates hits and collisions. "commands" are all executing locally. Where you do notice lag is if you hit an enemy, that hit is transmitted to the server, then the server relays it to the enemy and their client 'executes' the hit. Lag makes the hit take a moment longer than normal to register.

But isn’t it true that the first that registers gets the kill? As in HOs?
Lately, when the known HO horde hits, I fly the k4, and still lose every single ho.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Eagler on February 07, 2024, 04:10:11 PM
But isn’t it true that the first that registers gets the kill? As in HOs?
Lately, when the known HO horde hits, I fly the k4, snd still lose every single ho.

Fly the 109g2 with gonds and aim slightly high at 800d, couple of bursts then evade

I survive a frontal attack more in the g2 than the k4

Eagler
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on February 07, 2024, 04:28:36 PM
Fly the 109g2 with gonds and aim slightly high at 800d, couple of bursts then evade

I survive a frontal attack more in the g2 than the k4

Eagler
Well I’m damn near shooting them with grenades. Some times I get so pissed at condtant ho DWEEBS that I just pull at 1000 sll the way through the merge and lose.

I have escape routes, dive under. Loop over and 90% of the time end up on their 6. Its about giving them s taste of their own meds. But all it does is prove the point, I’m firing basically blanks. Snd its gotten worse, not better. I’m starting to get very suspicious. Now I just want answers ir I’ll end up going balistic
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: oboe on February 07, 2024, 04:35:54 PM
Animal have you checked your Net Status (function is available on clipboard).   Just wondering if the gunnery troubles could be related to packet loss...
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Animl-AW on February 07, 2024, 04:47:51 PM
Animal have you checked your Net Status (function is available on clipboard).   Just wondering if the gunnery troubles could be related to packet loss...

That's a good point I'm trying to figure out. I agree, it's some form of packet loss/lag etc./I'm using Xfinity cable, and cable is known for packet dropping, DSL was always a little slower but a lot cleaner, less packet loss. In my best days I had DSL. I used to laugh at bragging clowns, because I'd hand them their butt. A newbie can slaughter me now. Looking into what ever I can think of.

I programmed my own IP ping and diag in XP Game Launcher, it still works. I'm going to pull it out and run some stuff I built into it and see what it comes up with.

Had a convo on tech page about VPN usage. It can cause some lag. I'm going to try one thing at a time so I find the exact answer. I'm going to fly tonight without VPN, if no change, go to the next thought in line.
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Brooke on February 07, 2024, 05:31:36 PM
We certainly do need Zack1234 more and more each passing day on these boards  :old:

I miss Zack.  :cry
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: TryHard on February 07, 2024, 05:56:32 PM
We certainly do need Zack1234 more and more each passing day on these boards  :old:

I haven't heard anyone be called fat in this thread yet and I am outraged.

#FreeZack
Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Vulcan on February 08, 2024, 03:45:31 PM
But isn’t it true that the first that registers gets the kill? As in HOs?
Lately, when the known HO horde hits, I fly the k4, and still lose every single ho.

Well that depends on what you are asking. If your front end (client) sees you shoot and hit him, it will still result in a kill. "lag" kills are quite common in AH.

However, if you are in a HO, you shoot and take his wing off, but he shoots and headshots you, you will die without a kill credit. He will eventually crash and die and the credit will either go to no one or if anyone else is nearby they get the proxy kill.

Title: Re: Impossible shots!!!
Post by: Shuffler on February 08, 2024, 04:41:44 PM
I throw empty Tequila bottles at them. It doesn't make me win, but emptying the bottles does make me not really care one way or the other.