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Title: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on February 28, 2024, 10:39:06 AM
if someone were to do a european friendly event, what would be a good time to do it. Give me the time based on GMT. ill do the conversion.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: guncrasher on February 28, 2024, 10:48:56 AM
where?


semp
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on February 28, 2024, 10:51:40 AM
where as in which arena, or where as in which country?

Arena, i would run something in the SEA2. not sure what yet.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: DmonSlyr on February 28, 2024, 11:36:05 AM
London is about 5 hours ahead and beyond that is about 6 hours ahead, so go from there. Probably 2pm-4pm est time would be there sweet evening spot.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on February 28, 2024, 11:39:08 AM
thank you, thats kinda what i figured. ill see about putting something together. it might not be a 12 hour event, but for an hour or 2 it might be fun!
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: GasTeddy on February 28, 2024, 11:53:47 AM
Between 16:00 and 20:00 GMT. I live in GMT +2.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Shuffler on February 28, 2024, 12:16:25 PM
They don't come any better than Jaeger!
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on February 28, 2024, 01:19:44 PM
Between 16:00 and 20:00 GMT. I live in GMT +2.

what about 3pm EST, thats 8pm GMT and 10pm GMT+2? does that sound about right?
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: GasTeddy on February 28, 2024, 01:23:30 PM
8pm GMT, or 20:00 as we say here, is pretty suitable. At 22:00 local I have still couple of beers left to fly an hour or two.     :cheers:
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Dadtallica on February 28, 2024, 01:52:49 PM
Once a page link or write up is available I will share it around.  :banana:
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: artik on February 28, 2024, 02:20:36 PM
I think around 20:00/8PM at GMT
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: alkali on February 28, 2024, 03:11:51 PM
Yes, 20:00 GMT would work fine for my time zone (Paris).
Best,
Marc
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: fudgums on February 28, 2024, 04:20:53 PM
Sunday Euro Campaign ran at 3 eastern if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: SIK1 on February 29, 2024, 08:52:53 AM
2000 GMT I think would be good for most of the U.S. as well. I know I most likely could make an event that ran at 1200 PST depending on the day.

 :salute
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Bixby on February 29, 2024, 10:23:52 AM
I'm EST here in Ohio. An event at 3pm EST would be of interest to me.

I actually prefer flying in the afternoon.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Eagler on February 29, 2024, 10:40:58 AM
They don't come any better than Jaeger!

I second that!

 :cheers:

Eagler
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: JimmyD3 on February 29, 2024, 11:04:08 AM
I second that!

 :cheers:

Eagler

All in favor say "Aye"

AYE!!!!!
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Dadtallica on February 29, 2024, 11:16:09 AM
I approve this message.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Oldman731 on February 29, 2024, 12:54:52 PM
All in favor say "Aye"

AYE!!!!!


Aye!

- oldman
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on February 29, 2024, 05:09:09 PM
ok boys and girls, i will be looking into doing something. knowing me it might be unconventional. i will gladly take any suggestions as well. we'll try something small and see how it goes. im going to assume i cant expect more then 25 or 30 players so im going to use that as my base number.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: fd ski on February 29, 2024, 05:36:50 PM
back in the days WB would run SL (Scenario Lite) events on weekends in euro friendly time - 9pm Euro, 3pm east coast, noon west coast. It would be nice to have regular events that euro folks can attend.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on February 29, 2024, 06:08:21 PM
well since im not a scenario guy or a FSO guy, im gonna need some help and some suggestions.

i can tell you right now. some thing might not go as planned but ill try my best. ill also need everyones help and input!
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: JimmyD3 on February 29, 2024, 08:43:20 PM
Jaeger, not sure what you mean by needing help, but If I can I will offer my help.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Dadtallica on March 01, 2024, 12:11:31 AM
I would be happy to do the write up if someone gave me the bullet points. I will
Also plaster it all over Reddit.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Eagler on March 01, 2024, 07:42:06 AM
A modified MNM setup might work

Eagler
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 01, 2024, 07:46:13 PM
A modified MNM setup might work

Eagler

of course it would!! LOL!!
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 01, 2024, 07:47:01 PM
I would be happy to do the write up if someone gave me the bullet points. I will
Also plaster it all over Reddit.

i just might take you up on that. working out particulars right now. stay tuned
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 01, 2024, 08:28:29 PM
ok beginning thoughts:

length: 2 hours
setup: battle of britain

Possible conditions:

Allied tower only radar based on range in 1939. this allows for air-traffic controller.

sides: allies less then axis.

lives: unlimited but after initial take off, in order for you to re-up you must take off as a 4 plane flight.


aircraft:

spit1
hurri1
IL-2 with cannons nerfed(maybe) sub for Boulton Paul Defiant Mk. I
bristol blenheim(sub bostonIII without bombs)


BF109E-4
BF110C-4
JU87
JU88
HE-111


Let me know what you all think?

Jaeger1
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Dadtallica on March 02, 2024, 11:50:54 PM
I can work with that once you all have the routes/maps set. Other than BoB in general if you have a specific time frame in mind let me know.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: artik on March 03, 2024, 01:13:56 AM
lives: unlimited but after initial take off, in order for you to re-up you must take off as a 4 plane flight.

Maybe something like 3min TO windows for every 15-20 min?

Anyway I love BoB setups - one of my favorite
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 03, 2024, 08:22:22 PM
so the other thing that was suggested was that if a base is destroyed its unusable for 2 frames. for right now i can do once a month to see how it works.
as the summer approaches, we'll have to see what the participation is. i would consider twice a month....AS LONG AS THERES PARTICIPATION.

i would like to making it into something ongoing and progressive(god i hate that word!) so that it could start with BOB and then we can progress into
WW2 into the battle of/over germany.

please let me know what you all think?
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: fuzeman on March 03, 2024, 08:27:47 PM
Late addition regarding time: 3 pm EST was when EuroKOTH was run; when it had enough attendance to be run.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 03, 2024, 08:55:06 PM
yup and thats when im planning on running this!
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Dadtallica on March 03, 2024, 10:01:23 PM
Can the damage on a map be during a scenario be saved? Maybe I would know if I was able to attend lol.  In other words… if there is one map with a radar factory and it is down to 75% in frame one, can it be at 75% at the start of frame two?
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Lazerr on March 04, 2024, 08:04:58 AM
Can the damage on a map be during a scenario be saved? Maybe I would know if I was able to attend lol.  In other words… if there is one map with a radar factory and it is down to 75% in frame one, can it be at 75% at the start of frame two?

The cm can destroy any and all destroyable objects at any time, so yes.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 04, 2024, 12:19:39 PM
Can the damage on a map be during a scenario be saved? Maybe I would know if I was able to attend lol.  In other words… if there is one map with a radar factory and it is down to 75% in frame one, can it be at 75% at the start of frame two?

Like lazerr said and i was planning on either finding out or recording it, yes i will save the damage from one frame to another. thats kinda the idea behind it. a rolling series of battles.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 04, 2024, 01:36:00 PM
also i need a name for this thing. Sunday Euro Campaign?
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Devil 505 on March 04, 2024, 04:25:18 PM

setup: battle of britain

aircraft:

spit1
hurri1
IL-2 with cannons nerfed(maybe) sub for Boulton Paul Defiant Mk. I
bristol blenheim(sub bostonIII without bombs)


BF109E-4
BF110C-4
JU87
JU88
HE-111

Let me know what you all think?

I don't think your RAF substitutions are very good, to be honest.

First, the IL-2's defensive gun does not even traverse 1/4 of what the Defiant's could. Since you can't properly represent how to fight in a Defiant, why even have a sub for it? Also, I question if you really can nerf the guns on it and not affect the other planes. Seems like a bad idea all around to me.

Second, the Boston is a bad sub for a Blenheim. The Boston is 50 mph faster. It's also too tough in general for Emils and 110C's to kill reliably. It would be a good inclusion later in your progressive event, as true Bostons, when the Allies started using them from Britain. The B-25C is much closer in performance to the Blenheim and will also work as a reasonable sub for the Wellington. Also, the B-25C and Ju 88 are as close to balanced as two opposing bombers can be in game. So that match-up should be your bread and butter, in my opinion.

Another alternative for the Blenheim would be the TBM, if you can get over the whole one engine thing. They're very close size and bomb load.

Other than those issues, this looks to be a lot of fun.

 :salute
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 04, 2024, 06:10:12 PM
I don't think your RAF substitutions are very good, to be honest.

First, the IL-2's defensive gun does not even traverse 1/4 of what the Defiant's could. Since you can't properly represent how to fight in a Defiant, why even have a sub for it? Also, I question if you really can nerf the guns on it and not affect the other planes. Seems like a bad idea all around to me.

Second, the Boston is a bad sub for a Blenheim. The Boston is 50 mph faster. It's also too tough in general for Emils and 110C's to kill reliably. It would be a good inclusion later in your progressive event, as true Bostons, when the Allies started using them from Britain. The B-25C is much closer in performance to the Blenheim and will also work as a reasonable sub for the Wellington. Also, the B-25C and Ju 88 are as close to balanced as two opposing bombers can be in game. So that match-up should be your bread and butter, in my opinion.

Another alternative for the Blenheim would be the TBM, if you can get over the whole one engine thing. They're very close size and bomb load.

Other than those issues, this looks to be a lot of fun.

 :salute

both the il-2 and boston were going to be used as interceptors. are they perfect? No, but i can try them and find out how it works. i do appreciate the suggestions. as for the bostons being too tough for the emil's, you're probably right. but we'll just give it a shot and adjust as necessary. its all about fun, not necessarily about accuracy. i will sleep on your suggestions. thank you.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Lazerr on March 04, 2024, 06:54:49 PM
How many Sundays you plan to do this Sunday funday?
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 04, 2024, 06:58:30 PM
i was thinking once a month and see how it goes. if theres not enough interest or guys, it wont work. if people start calling for 2 sundays a month, that would probably work. just remember i have a life too hehehe.
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: Oldman731 on March 04, 2024, 08:57:26 PM
I don't think your RAF substitutions are very good, to be honest.

First, the IL-2's defensive gun does not even traverse 1/4 of what the Defiant's could. Since you can't properly represent how to fight in a Defiant, why even have a sub for it? Also, I question if you really can nerf the guns on it and not affect the other planes. Seems like a bad idea all around to me.

Second, the Boston is a bad sub for a Blenheim. The Boston is 50 mph faster. It's also too tough in general for Emils and 110C's to kill reliably. It would be a good inclusion later in your progressive event, as true Bostons, when the Allies started using them from Britain. The B-25C is much closer in performance to the Blenheim and will also work as a reasonable sub for the Wellington. Also, the B-25C and Ju 88 are as close to balanced as two opposing bombers can be in game. So that match-up should be your bread and butter, in my opinion.

Another alternative for the Blenheim would be the TBM, if you can get over the whole one engine thing. They're very close size and bomb load.

Other than those issues, this looks to be a lot of fun.


Hah!

This reminds me so much of the glory days of CT and AvA.  "What, you're substituting Hurri IIs for the Russians?  They never had those!"

All good, keeps people interested, and Jaeger did ask for input.

From my perspective, the BoB plane set is the best that AH has to offer.  No sense trying to copy Defiants, they weren't a factor.  Better question is what to give the Brits for a bomber?  The Boston always worked well, and really there aren't a lot of alternate choices.

Another question, though:  Do EU players want an early war plane set, or do they want to have late war planes with more players?  Just asking. 

Give Jaeger credit for even offering this.

- oldman
Title: Re: to the European Players
Post by: captain1ma on March 05, 2024, 07:56:13 AM
thanks oldman!!

the idea of the IL-2 was to use it as an interceptor for the german bombers. while not realistic i figured it might be fun. the defiant had quad guns and the IL-2 had 23mm's. if used only in limited numbers, it would be ok. but that being said i've decided to ditch it all together.

i would like people to suggest things as opposed to why my idea is not that great.  give me a better alternative! devil505 is a perfect example. 

the englanders will keep the boston III's as a bomber. the 110's can make fast work of them, so there will need to be some defensive strategy.

i will also try to figure out a way to adjust fuel burn to make it more realistic. this will limit the fighters over england.

also with the radar im going to try to adjust it to make it more realistic. i can do minimum alt on the radar im not sure if i can do maximum. my bigger problem is Germany and England had different radar. i only have 2 settings i can use. on or off and distances. this limits what i can do for the 2 sides. unfortunately its all or nothing, so the germans may be SOL. Darbar may be the answer for them instead.