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Title: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on February 28, 2024, 08:58:31 PM
Something you won't find in the travel brochures that might save your life.
List of sanctuary cities.
Alexandria, VA Baltimore, MD Boston, MA Charlotte, NC Chicago, IL Columbus, OH Denver, CO Detroit, MI Hartford, CT Iowa City, IA Jackson, MS Los Angeles, CA Memphis, TN Minneapolis, MN Montpelier, VT Newark, NJ New Orleans, LA New York City, NY Oklahoma City, OK Philadelphia, PA Pittsburgh, PA Portland, OR Providence, RI Raleigh, NC San Diego, CA San Francisco, CA Seattle, WA Washington, DC
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Busher on February 28, 2024, 09:35:54 PM
Last and final time already passed.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on February 28, 2024, 09:40:23 PM
you are missing a bunch. if you want to make a political statement at least do it complete.
semp
Yeah, I believe there are some smaller towns which fall under county ordinances, but thank you for the clarification, semp. We can always count on your expert analysis when it come to homeland security matters.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: guncrasher on February 28, 2024, 10:27:13 PM
Yeah, I believe there are some smaller towns which fall under county ordinances, but thank you for the clarification, semp. We can always count on your expert analysis when it come to homeland security matters.
biggest county in the united states and you missed it? los angeles county has around 60 cities alone.
I'll leave the homeland security matter to you. you the one who posted it. I am just thinking of those poor first time visitors, those who have visited 2 or more times should be ok right?
semp
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on February 28, 2024, 10:37:36 PM
biggest county in the united states and you missed it? los angeles county has around 60 cities alone.
I'll leave the homeland security matter to you. you the one who posted it. I am just thinking of those poor first time visitors, those who have visited 2 or more times should be ok right?
semp
Depends on when they visited. Things have changed quite a bit on the home-front over the last three years. Would you not agree?
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Busher on February 28, 2024, 10:45:57 PM
Maybe I should have more clearly stated that my last and final visit to the USA happened some years ago. I departed on the first flight the morning of Oct 2, 2017.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on February 28, 2024, 10:50:30 PM
Maybe I should have more clearly stated that my last and final visit to the USA happened some years ago. I departed on the first flight the morning of Oct 2, 2017.
You should see it now.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: guncrasher on February 28, 2024, 11:09:32 PM
Depends on when they visited. Things have changed quite a bit on the home-front over the last three years. Would you not agree?
here I'll make it easy for you. worst mass shootings in the usa. all this happened in sanctuary cities right?
city dead injured Las Vegas, NV (Las Vegas Strip) 2017 58 867 Orlando, FL (Pulse nightclub) 2016 49 58 Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech) 2007 32 23 Newtown, CT (Sandy Hook) 2012 27 2 Sutherland Springs, TX(Texas Baptist) 2017 26 22 Killeen, TX (Luby's) 1991 23 27 El Paso, TX (Walmart) 2019 23 23 San Ysidro, CA (McDonald's) 1984 21 19 Uvalde, TX (Robb Elementary School) 2022 21 15 Lewiston, Maine 2023 18 13 Parkland, FL (Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) 2018 17 17 Austin, TX (University of Texas) 1966 16 31 Fort Hood, TX (Fort Hood military base) 2009 14 32 San Bernardino, CA (Inland Regional Center) 2015 14 24 Edmond, OK (USPS) 1986 14 6
as long as you dont visit Mcdonal's, the post office, night clubs military bases or schools. you should be ok.
visiting a so called sanctuary city or any other city doest make it better or worst. you could still be in the safest city in the usa and get robbed or killed. hell you can be killed in your own country.
semp
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on February 28, 2024, 11:32:24 PM
here I'll make it easy for you. worst mass shootings in the usa. all this happened in sanctuary cities right?
city dead injured Las Vegas, NV (Las Vegas Strip) 2017 58 867 Orlando, FL (Pulse nightclub) 2016 49 58 Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech) 2007 32 23 Newtown, CT (Sandy Hook) 2012 27 2 Sutherland Springs, TX(Texas Baptist) 2017 26 22 Killeen, TX (Luby's) 1991 23 27 El Paso, TX (Walmart) 2019 23 23 San Ysidro, CA (McDonald's) 1984 21 19 Uvalde, TX (Robb Elementary School) 2022 21 15 Lewiston, Maine 2023 18 13 Parkland, FL (Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) 2018 17 17 Austin, TX (University of Texas) 1966 16 31 Fort Hood, TX (Fort Hood military base) 2009 14 32 San Bernardino, CA (Inland Regional Center) 2015 14 24 Edmond, OK (USPS) 1986 14 6
as long as you dont visit Mcdonal's, the post office, night clubs military bases or schools. you should be ok.
visiting a so called sanctuary city or any other city doest make it better or worst. you could still be in the safest city in the usa and get robbed or killed. hell you can be killed in your own country.
semp
And the deflection from our pathetic border policies begins. Instead, defend our current border policies, simp. We can have a 2nd amendment discussion in another thread. Begin by telling us what country's border policies mirrors ours.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: GasTeddy on February 29, 2024, 04:27:15 AM
Years ago, used to spend some weeks every winter in Florida, to warm my bones from Nordic chill. Haven't been there for a decade, wonder how is it nowadays.
Might be interesting to compare general crime rates between different cities, sanctuaries and others, democratic and republican lead ones. Burglaries, heists, robberies, thefts, killings, assaults, abuses etc.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Eagler on February 29, 2024, 06:10:45 AM
Please exercise caution..the United States isn't what it used to be
Eagler
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Meatwad on February 29, 2024, 06:37:46 AM
Should be added to the list that any state that has done "justice reform" will be more dangerous and deadly since punishing criminals for crimes are not allowed because of their feelings being hurt to take responsibility for their criminal actions
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: sparky127 on February 29, 2024, 06:45:36 AM
here I'll make it easy for you. worst mass shootings in the usa. all this happened in sanctuary cities right?
city dead injured Las Vegas, NV (Las Vegas Strip) 2017 58 867 Orlando, FL (Pulse nightclub) 2016 49 58 Blacksburg, VA (Virginia Tech) 2007 32 23 Newtown, CT (Sandy Hook) 2012 27 2 Sutherland Springs, TX(Texas Baptist) 2017 26 22 Killeen, TX (Luby's) 1991 23 27 El Paso, TX (Walmart) 2019 23 23 San Ysidro, CA (McDonald's) 1984 21 19 Uvalde, TX (Robb Elementary School) 2022 21 15 Lewiston, Maine 2023 18 13 Parkland, FL (Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School) 2018 17 17 Austin, TX (University of Texas) 1966 16 31 Fort Hood, TX (Fort Hood military base) 2009 14 32 San Bernardino, CA (Inland Regional Center) 2015 14 24 Edmond, OK (USPS) 1986 14 6
as long as you dont visit Mcdonal's, the post office, night clubs military bases or schools. you should be ok.
visiting a so called sanctuary city or any other city doest make it better or worst. you could still be in the safest city in the usa and get robbed or killed. hell you can be killed in your own country.
semp
As of Feb 23, (old numbers, surely there's an increase since that ancient time) there have been 54 murders in Chicago, right around one per day, but that's OK because they were mostly done one or two at a time. The other good news is that that's 18 fewer than last year. Yay!
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Eagler on February 29, 2024, 07:57:20 AM
Stealing is not a crime anymore..obviously
Some, way too many think the same for murder
We have just started to experience the rise in crime brought on when you import millions of illegal immigrants from who knows where with who knows what agenda..
Potato heads present of these criminals will be with us for decades going forward...during which time they will be fast tracked into citizenship and their illegal beginnings quickly forgotten..
Eagler
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Busher on February 29, 2024, 10:37:11 PM
We have just started to experience the rise in crime brought on when you import millions of illegal immigrants from who knows where with who knows what agenda..
Potato heads present of these criminals will be with us for decades going forward...during which time they will be fast tracked into citizenship and their illegal beginnings quickly forgotten..
Eagler
No worries. The good people with guns will take care of the bad people with guns.... and it's easy to tell them apart.... right?
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Tumor on February 29, 2024, 11:42:03 PM
No worries. The good people with guns will take care of the bad people with guns.... and it's easy to tell them apart.... right?
[To be read in 1950's public-service film voice:]
That's right. It is very difficult.
But fortunately there are some subtle hints that can help.
These are hard for most people to notice.
But if you know what to look for, you might be able to spot these telltale signs if they are happening around you.
Is a person breaking into your house? Is a person carjacking you? Is a person trying to murder school kids? Is a person trying to kill you? Is a person shooting into a crowd at a parade or mall?
If so, that person might be a bad person.
Now, if you still aren't sure, you can consult with with someone nearby -- a family member, friend, or even a fellow citizen passing by. You might ask, for example, "Excuse me, but do you see that man over there beating that woman to death? It seems to me that the situation might be one of the telltale indications of a bad person. Do you think so, too, or am I reading too much into it?"
If you can't discern these situations at first, don't worry. After a bit of practice and some experience, you, too, will be able to navigate the difficult task of spotting the bad person.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: sparky127 on March 06, 2024, 08:00:52 AM
Years ago, used to spend some weeks every winter in Florida, to warm my bones from Nordic chill. Haven't been there for a decade, wonder how is it nowadays.
Might be interesting to compare general crime rates between different cities, sanctuaries and others, democratic and republican lead ones. Burglaries, heists, robberies, thefts, killings, assaults, abuses etc.
Yet, talking about cities is a scape goat to which states have the biggest murder by gun, poverty, economies so bad they take federal aid….and each one of the top ten, are against pro choice and have almost no gun laws. That research, which I have done at World Data speak a different story. Talking cities is a deflection from bad states. Top 10 are the opposite of talking cities.
That said, states make laws, not cities.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: DmonSlyr on March 08, 2024, 11:02:49 AM
The types that are now showing up to them and the lack of any form of common respect and decency
Miami is over it
Eagler
I'm still curious to know what happened in Maimi a few months ago, where it seemed every single cop in the south Florida showed up. Must have been over 100 cops at minimum. They said it was a fight, but seemed like way too many cops showed for that. There was a conspiracy about dark shadow aliens showing up, but i think there was a lot of disinfo with that. Seems gangs are getting bad. South Florida is like a totally different country than North and mid Florida though. Mid Florida is real nice. I'm enjoying it a lot and it's very safe here.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Shuffler on March 08, 2024, 11:12:39 AM
The problem with crime is that some think criminals just need a hug. Punishment, no matter what color, is the only way. Murderers should be put to death in the same fashion as their victims.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Meatwad on March 08, 2024, 11:20:14 AM
I'm still curious to know what happened in Maimi a few months ago, where it seemed every single cop in the south Florida showed up. Must have been over 100 cops at minimum. They said it was a fight, but seemed like way too many cops showed for that. There was a conspiracy about dark shadow aliens showing up, but i think there was a lot of disinfo with that. Seems gangs are getting bad. South Florida is like a totally different country than North and mid Florida though. Mid Florida is real nice. I'm enjoying it a lot and it's very safe here.
The puzzle can easily be solved just by watching the video . Crime seems to follow some people
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: GasTeddy on March 08, 2024, 01:08:36 PM
Yet, talking about cities is a scape goat to which states have the biggest murder by gun, poverty, economies so bad they take federal aid….and each one of the top ten, are against pro choice and have almost no gun laws. That research, which I have done at World Data speak a different story. Talking cities is a deflection from bad states. Top 10 are the opposite of talking cities.
That said, states make laws, not cities.
Sometimes cities have their own gun laws. One good example: a person can “open carry” a gun, such as wearing it in a holster, or on a belt without a permit everywhere in Pennsylvania except in Philadelphia (https://criminallawpennsylvania.com/philadelphia-gun-lawyer/laws/other-jurisdictions/). In there, a permit is required to carry a gun or transport one in a vehicle.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Eagler on March 08, 2024, 02:41:04 PM
Florida has the law that allows concealed carry without a permit of any kind..should make most think twice but the group in those videos doesn't do that too well..
Eagler
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on March 08, 2024, 02:53:14 PM
I'm still curious to know what happened in Maimi a few months ago, where it seemed every single cop in the south Florida showed up. Must have been over 100 cops at minimum. They said it was a fight, but seemed like way too many cops showed for that. There was a conspiracy about dark shadow aliens showing up, but i think there was a lot of disinfo with that. Seems gangs are getting bad. South Florida is like a totally different country than North and mid Florida though. Mid Florida is real nice. I'm enjoying it a lot and it's very safe here.
So no one visiting gets confused, we consider Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach counties to be south FL. Counties directly to the west of those counties are considered SW FL. SW FL is very nice.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Oldman731 on March 08, 2024, 03:58:17 PM
Sometimes cities have their own gun laws. One good example: a person can “open carry” a gun, such as wearing it in a holster, or on a belt without a permit everywhere in Pennsylvania except in Philadelphia (https://criminallawpennsylvania.com/philadelphia-gun-lawyer/laws/other-jurisdictions/). In there, a permit is required to carry a gun or transport one in a vehicle.
That's actually a state law, not a municipal ordinance. Pennsylvania has a strong preemption statute; Philadelphia has been trying to get around it for decades.
- oldman
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Tumor on March 08, 2024, 08:18:37 PM
“Armed neutrality makes it much easier to detect hypocrisy.”
― Criss Jami, Killosophy
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: GasTeddy on March 09, 2024, 03:44:14 AM
That's actually a state law, not a municipal ordinance. Pennsylvania has a strong preemption statute; Philadelphia has been trying to get around it for decades.
- oldman
Ok, thanks. In countries where I've been living so far, state laws apply the same everywhere, but cities/towns can have municipal ordinances tighter than law but not loosen the reins.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Animl-AW on March 10, 2024, 10:34:53 PM
We have just started to experience the rise in crime brought on when you import millions of illegal immigrants from who knows where with who knows what agenda..
Potato heads present of these criminals will be with us for decades going forward...during which time they will be fast tracked into citizenship and their illegal beginnings quickly forgotten..
Eagler
Not one single mass shooting was done by an immigrant. They are white male American citizens. Over 650 mass shootings last year. Almost 2 per day.
What the Americans did in Chicago/IL, and other cities, I'll wave your flag with you.
But immigrants committing crimes is the least of our worries. It's about fear, daily fear, habitual fear, Panophobia (the fear of everything), be afraid,...... "only I can save you". Fear keeps people off balance, off balance is where some want you to be,....prolonged fear leads to baseless hysteria. These are the most dangerous people. Prone to conspiracies. Conspiracies = Fear. Irrational.
3% of "good guys" with guns stop "bad guys" with guns. 2% of that 3% are cops. So 1% of 410 million guns is basically batting zero..
I would recommend some here use a data source like;
Our World in Data https://ourworldindata.org/ (https://ourworldindata.org/)
FBI Stat Tables https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables (https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/tables)
Travel State Gov https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories.html/ (https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories.html/)
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Eagler on March 11, 2024, 09:22:13 AM
Give it time animal...they have to get their bearings and weapons 1st...
You can't believe he didn't let 1000's of our enemies across the southern border over the last 3 years do you?
And the last batch of shooters seemed to have mental issues dealing with their sexual identity..not exactly white males..
It's not fear here but common sense and decency
Eagler
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: Animl-AW on March 11, 2024, 01:05:17 PM
Give it time animal...they have to get their bearings and weapons 1st...
You can't believe he didn't let 1000's of our enemies across the southern border over the last 3 years do you?
And the last batch of shooters seemed to have mental issues dealing with their sexual identity..not exactly white males..
It's not fear here but common sense and decency
Eagler
I can believe more came in after the wall that was suppose to solve everything. I can believe that the very side of the fence complaining and making reckless blanket accusations are the very ones who rejected a bill by the current president to shut it down, for political and personal gains of one, to make the current look bad. I mean, they actually told us to our faces, and some people missed that?
I can believe when we hand out 410 millions guns, located in 64 million places, "them" getting armed was already made very possible. Anyone. from anywhere, can be armed in minutes, because we are stupid enough to hand them to them.
I can believe that anyone who kills anyone has issues.
1 immigrant does it so it excuses the other 99% Americans? Those 2-3 with sexual issues doesn't excuse the other 99%. These are cherry picked for reckless mean spirited blanket labeling for political purposes and personal gain.
I suggest data research over people with agendas of political and personal gain. Read between the lines, Street smarts do apply.
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on March 11, 2024, 01:35:13 PM
Yet, talking about cities is a scape goat to which states have the biggest murder by gun, poverty, economies so bad they take federal aid….and each one of the top ten, are against pro choice and have almost no gun laws. That research, which I have done at World Data speak a different story. Talking cities is a deflection from bad states. Top 10 are the opposite of talking cities.
That said, states make laws, not cities.
Just imagine if those same cities harbored unvetted illegals or illegals who had already committed crimes.
Top 5 federal funding receivers on a per-person basis (2020).
Washington DC ($6,983 per person) Wyoming ($6,894 per person) Alaska ($6,495 per person) Vermont ($5,463 per person) Delaware ($4,373 per person)
Georgia received the least federal funding per person, with $1,807. Florida and Utah also had relatively lower distributions, with per-person funding of $1,937 and $1,957, respectively.
Pro-choice? WTH?
No gun laws? How many of the murders committed in the cities that you are referencing were carried out by people not permitted to own or carry a gun? 70%? 80%? 90%?
Title: Re: For those visiting the States for the first time.
Post by: RUSH1 on March 11, 2024, 01:54:15 PM
I can believe more came in after the wall that was suppose to solve everything. I can believe that the very side of the fence complaining and making reckless blanket accusations are the very ones who rejected a bill by the current president to shut it down, for political and personal gains of one, to make the current look bad. I mean, they actually told us to our faces, and some people missed that?
I can believe when we hand out 410 millions guns, located in 64 million places, "them" getting armed was already made very possible. Anyone. from anywhere, can be armed in minutes, because we are stupid enough to hand them to them.
I can believe that anyone who kills anyone has issues.
1 immigrant does it so it excuses the other 99% Americans? Those 2-3 with sexual issues doesn't excuse the other 99%. These are cherry picked for reckless mean spirited blanket labeling for political purposes and personal gain.
I suggest data research over people with agendas of political and personal gain. Read between the lines, Street smarts do apply.
Wait. When did we finish the wall? This is new to me.
Who's playing political games? https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/4455506-breaking-down-the-senate-border-bill-and-why-it-has-no-chance-of-passing/ If the democrats were concerned about border security, they would have picked up where Trump left off or at the very least done something sooner about this three-year crisis.
OK OK we get it. You're anti-gun.
You keep using the term immigrant in place of illegal alien when trying to defend their illegality.