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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dingy on April 13, 2000, 04:59:00 PM
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HTC and everyone,
The training arena is no longer a training arena per se but is now an out of control dueling arena. It is an area that allows for harrassment and rude, obnoxious behavior and something needs to be done about it.
We need some way to police it. Lunar and I were the victims of some very impolite behavior this afternoon when we were in the middle of a training session. I had already told one individual that we did not want to duel and basically to go away. The basic result was a complete interruption in our training.
What in Gods name do we have to do or say in there to train without interferrence by outside sources????
-Ding
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Please, please, PLEASE film and send the information to HTC. Not meant to say that the complaints shouldn't occur here too, but I think this info should go directly to HTC as well.
I can tell you the training corps is doing all we can to be a presence and moderating factor in the TA, but it is up to all to help police it.
It would be a shame to have this tool taken away from us because of the abuses of a few people.
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Kieren is right. You need to hit the "TAB" key to pull up the text buffer and take a pic (alt + s) or film the exchange. Then send it to HTC.
They don't want to lose customers from the few obnoxious and rude pilots we have about. They will deal with repeat offenders.
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daddog C.O.
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
Where men become friends and friends become brothers.
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I want names. If people are being contentious amazinhunks and ruining training sessions then I want to know who it is.
Dont give me any privacy or witch hunt crap.
If someone commits an injustice towards the community, everyone in that community deserves to know about it.
Post names!
Tell ya what else Im going to do. I will make it a habbit of dropping into the training arena every time I log on. I will do my part to be civic and help police the arena.
Yeager
[This message has been edited by Yeager (edited 04-13-2000).]
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I spend a good deal of time in the TA. I'll maybe go in and excercise for 20 minutes before I head to the MA, or I'll come from the MA and go there just to find fights quickly, if I'm in that kinda mood.
Now Dingy, I don't dispute what happened to you... but I must say that this hasn't happened while I've been there, and I would also venture to say that this aint the norm there.
I think the TA is easily big enough to house both types of flying; training and dueling. In fact, the dueling almost always takes place at just one feild - as sort of anything goes fur. I see that most instructors direct their students to an away field, and go about their business unobstructed.
Of course yer gonna run into some @#$heads there from time to time... but I'd be hard pressed to think of how to go about policing this type of thing. Such is life.
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I witnessed this BS the other day in the arena as well. I generally got the impression that the pilots didn't know any better. I suggest posting one of those "POP UP MESSAGES" when ya log into the arena that states the "rules" of the Training Arena.
Something like:
WELCOME TO THE TRAINING ARENA
THIS ARENA IS TO BE USED FOR FLIGHT TRAINING. THIS ARENA MAY ALSO BE USED FOR PRE-ARRANGED FIGHTS. DO NOT ENTER A FIGHT OR ATTACK SOMEONE WITHOUT THEIR PRIOR APPROVAL.
My thoughts
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Jarbo
of the Buccaneers
"Growing old is mandatory, growing wise is optional."
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Perhaps try Warbirds. It, with the higher price, has less Riff Raff, much much less and more quality pilots. Whereas in Aces High, because of the low cost, attracts many Grade School to High School kids.
Macboy
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Well the TA is pretty big, do these guy follow you to other bases also?
Just curious.
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Hmm... I wonder how Macboy knows that Warbirds attracts better quality pilots. I've flown WB, have you flown AH Macboy? Something.... yer handle perhaps?... tells me that you aint exactly qualified to comment on Aces High.
Oh..and yer dead wrong, btw.
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Ignore Macboy. This is someone coming in to stir up trouble, pure and simple. No logical argument is going to get anywhere, because that is not the purpose of the post.
He/she should however know that his IP is logged, and that IP can be blocked at any time. For now, I would just ignore this person so he/she can go back to AGW.
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turn it it to a real arena, with killshooter, and 99% of this goes away. Back when I was starting. I learned how to shoot by talking a guy into letting me shoot myself down with this tool. You can hear as well as see when your pinging someone.
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Originally posted by Macboy:
Perhaps try Warbirds. It, with the higher price, has less Riff Raff, much much less and more quality pilots. Whereas in Aces High, because of the low cost, attracts many Grade School to High School kids.
Macboy
MUAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!!!!!
(http://thedam.com/cwm/smile/legionxs/fart.gif)
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Well the TA is pretty big, do these guy follow you to other bases also?
Just curious.
He sure did. We were originally harrassed at F1 so Lunar and I headed to F12. The other pilot then followed us over there and despite the warnings that I would film this, just laughed and continued to bother us. He even had a buddy of his come on over to add to the chaos.
Dont give me any privacy or witch hunt crap.
If someone commits an injustice towards the community, everyone in that community deserves to know about it.
Post names!
The pilots name was Busc...when we moved to F12, he called a pilot named Drago into the fray.
Please, please, PLEASE film and send the information to HTC. Not meant to say that the complaints shouldn't occur here too, but I think this info should go directly to HTC as well.
I'll have Lunar send the film to Pyro.
-Ding
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Originally posted by Macboy:
Perhaps try Warbirds. It, with the higher price, has less Riff Raff, much much less and more quality pilots. Whereas in Aces High, because of the low cost, attracts many Grade School to High School kids.
Macboy
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) I definitely fit that category.....
I knew there was a reason I've stopped spending $150 - $200 per month. The wife reduced my allowance and forced me to come over here and fly with this much more inexperienced and immature riff raff.
....and I'm proud to be associated with them.
Badger (just an old "road kill" WB immigrant)
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Awww have pity on MacBoy. His cute little colored box only lets him play one online flight sim. Great purchasing decision, meathead!
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ROFLMAO funked!
meathead... yeah. lol
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I've done a little research, since I have all this neat security equipment at my company, and found out who Macboy is.(Macboy, did you not know that your ISP can be traced ?) I won't give you his name, but I will tell you this, he (obviously) has a Mac, cannot play AH, so considers the grapes very sour. I've had a number of derogatory flames from him in AGW and his ego and head doesn't fit into the cockpit of his virtual A/C. He will always be an arrogant, bitter, mac-loving moron. So, best to not even respond to his posts, since that's how he gets his kicks.
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Ripsnort(-rip1-)
I/JG2~Richthofen~
JG2 Communications Officer
Aces High Training Corps
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ripsnort.jpg)
Turning Spitfires into Bud Lite cans since 1992
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-14-2000).]
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Please let us know when those types of disruptions happen in the Training Arena. It's unacceptable to badger some one after repeated requests to stop.
On the other hand, also remember that some of our customers don't use English as a first language and may not understand that their behavior is causing trouble. We had a case like that this week.
Just let us know by email who's bugging you in the Training Arena and we'll do our best to handle the situation.
Ronni
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Veronica "Ronni" Newman
Sr. Programmer/Webmaster
HiTech Creations, Inc.
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Why can't he just stay at AGW. Why is he slumming here if he dislikes this community and Aces High so much?
His behavior is something I would expect from a disgruntled $10/mo sim player.
He actually kind of helps to prove that having the ability to pay $2.00 an hour is just an indication someone has money. Having that money says nothing about maturity nor intelligence.
-Westy
[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 04-14-2000).]
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I go in the TA about every day now so I can practice vulching and being vulched while driving the tank and m16.
I have noticed that there are some guys who want to kill everything they see regardless of if they want to fight or not.
I also know that these guys understand the rules but don't really care.
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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals
"Come try to club THIS Seal"
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Hey Guys:
Here's a heads up. MACBOY posted the same thing on AGW but switched the Sim names. He's just stirring things up to pit us against each other so don't let it get to you.
Hope things are going well over here, things are great in the HA over in Warbirds as we experiment with some 24 hour rebuilds. Makes things a bit more strategic for that arena.
Later guys,
Ram1
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Ram1 ! Hello!
FYI, I can confirm that it is a different Macboy in AGW than the one in here. If I told you how I know, I'd have to kill you. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Ripsnort(-rip1-)
I/JG2~Richthofen~
JG2 Communications Officer
Aces High Training Corps
JG2 "Richthofen" (http://www.busprod.com/weazel2/)
(http://Ripsnort60.tripod.com/ripsnort.jpg)
Turning Spitfires into Bud Lite cans since 1992
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-14-2000).]
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Haha Rip...Neotrace?
Remember the big hacking/cracking crap that went on a couple months ago? The guy who was arrested tested his scripts out on little old me and the site I used to be editor of for his trail run. I got to see lots of cool FBI stuff in action for catching online idiots...very interesting...It was definitely worth the eight hours he killed our site to learn what I did.
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You know what we do with MACBOYS At the Harbour???!!
First we----piip-------, and then------piip-------so while he is-------piip---- A BIG----piip------and when he had enough we just do it all over again!
And this was just a warm up!
Poor little maakie, No plane, no fly, good sim, by PeaCea, be happy, fly good sim.
A littl advice, dont call yourself macboy if you do get a pc and enter our fine community here!
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"OH, OGD! Help me now to punish the Rooks and Bishops that are after my Body and want to shoot it full of both 7.7, cal"50 and 20mm! Please preserve the nice paintjob on my 205, keep my wep always goin and load my guns with Fresh ammunition, the fuelgaugemeter in the middle, May my fellow Knights call 6 and cover my weak spots in times during T&B, May the infideling Hawg go away forever from AH! (and if not, make it a undermodeled Lawndart!)". <Right Airlon, Left Elevator, Engine and Rudder.>
Crabofix "fishslap"
Flygflottlj.19(Lento R5)"swedish Gladiators"
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Thanks Ronni. Excellent point. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
We have several in the Mongrels who have English as a second language. Of course they can't use that as an excuse, they speak better English than me, err I. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Don't get worked up gents, just take a pic and send it in.
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daddog C.O.
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)
Where men become friends and friends become brothers.
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Originally posted by Ronni:
On the other hand, also remember that some of our customers don't use English as a first language and may not understand that their behavior is causing trouble. We had a case like that this week.
He was Italian but had a very good grasp of the English language. He used "Dweeb" and "idiot" as well as one would who grew up in the states. There was no question he understood what I was asking.
-Ding
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Then that's a different case. Let us know if this continues to happen.
Ronni
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Veronica "Ronni" Newman
Sr. Programmer/Webmaster
HiTech Creations, Inc.
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I had a run-in with busc once already. He and I wee in the MA and somehow we got involved in a coversation. It was basically one of those where i invited him to the TA for a little duel (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif). He was very hotheaded and he didnt take it well when i shot him down. I am not saying that I didnt escalate his anger a little (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (I did)--but I didnt get mad at him though. He was a little frustrated with me I think.
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AMMO
332nd Flying Mongrels (http://www.ropescourse.org/flying.htm)