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Title: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 21, 2024, 02:07:40 PM
Several changes have been made in the past year to certain game mechanics that went unannounced to this community. HTC, will you finally give patch notes about these changes. If you have made no changes yourself then please check the original game files and confirm that no changes have been made without your knowledge. Thanks! <S>
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Lusche on April 21, 2024, 04:09:04 PM
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Several changes have been made in the past year to certain game mechanics that went unannounced to this community.

Which ones?
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Animl-AW on April 21, 2024, 05:59:55 PM
Several changes have been made in the past year to certain game mechanics that went unannounced to this community. HTC, will you finally give patch notes about these changes. If you have made no changes yourself then please check the original game files and confirm that no changes have been made without your knowledge. Thanks! <S>

Examples?
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: AKIron on April 21, 2024, 06:35:12 PM
Showing who killed who in real time to all is new since I last played which was a minute ago. That a new thing?
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Bizman on April 22, 2024, 12:56:21 AM
Showing who killed who in real time to all is new since I last played which was a minute ago. That a new thing?
It has been around for several years now.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: oboe on April 22, 2024, 08:11:41 AM
Showing who killed who in real time to all is new since I last played which was a minute ago. That a new thing?

These messages are displayed on a tunable text channel aren't they?  So, if you don't have that channel tuned, you wouldn't see them?   

I do remember a discussion on the board about this change being implemented.  It may not have been a code change though - might've just been changing a parameter in the arena settings.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Shane on April 22, 2024, 09:54:10 AM
These messages are displayed on a tunable text channel aren't they?  So, if you don't have that channel tuned, you wouldn't see them?   
I do remember a discussion on the board about this change being implemented.  It may not have been a code change though - might've just been changing a parameter in the arena settings.


Not quite. In the past we could use the .squelch ch 1  and/or 6 to achieve this.

Currently, system messages can be set up under a separate chat tab that you can "hide."  AFAIK this is new, the ability to have 2-3-4 different chat tabs dedicated to certain channels.  Once a tab is set up, it can be dragged to it's own "buffer" that can be minimized and hidden from view.   

(https://i.postimg.cc/c4vhML6N/chat-tab.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/RZQPpV5p/chat-tab-edit.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DS0d8hz1)
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Shane on April 22, 2024, 09:56:04 AM
Which ones?


He's been alluding to gunnery being somehow changed for buffs...

Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Eagler on April 22, 2024, 10:16:15 AM
What are the private messages check box in that screenshot?

Thought person to person was blocked?

Eagler
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: The Fugitive on April 22, 2024, 10:46:54 AM
What are the private messages check box in that screenshot?

Thought person to person was blocked?

Eagler

It is, as an arena setting, but if it was turned on again you would have the ability to make a text window for it. Heck you could now, but as its off youd never see anything come across that window.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Shane on April 22, 2024, 11:00:51 AM
What are the private messages check box in that screenshot? Thought person to person was blocked?
Eagler

You can still PM same-side.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: oboe on April 22, 2024, 11:04:31 AM
Shane, thank you for that excellent explanation.  The included screenshots really helped clarify.  <S>
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: DmonSlyr on April 22, 2024, 11:05:19 AM
Showing who killed who in real time to all is new since I last played which was a minute ago. That a new thing?

Just the worst decision. Seeing an enemy kill your friendly so you know who they are now in the middle of a battle is cringe. It means you can set up an attack or style over them before the enemy knows who you are. Just absolutely horrible all around for this game that's supposed to be built on war strategy.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 22, 2024, 12:45:35 PM


He's been alluding to gunnery being somehow changed for buffs...
Gunnery has not been changed to the best of my knowledge nor have I ever said that.  :cheers:

I'm not getting suckered into another debate on this subject with players who have literally 1000% times less flight time in bombers than I do.

Significant changes have been made in the past year and I have asked Dale directly on the public forum if he will address it. I don't need a response from him or anybody to know what has changed and have adapted well to it but slapping a bandaid on a deep cut never fixes the problem it just creates new ones.



Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: CptTrips on April 22, 2024, 12:48:14 PM
Gunnery has not been changed to the best of my knowledge nor have I ever said that.  :cheers:

Are the changed mechanics a secret?

Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 22, 2024, 12:55:21 PM
Are the changed mechanics a secret?
potentially as to not give a certain player too much credit for the way he/she plays perhaps?

What is clear is that changes have been made without informing the community.

Off topic... how about this for AH gossip. Other night I had a fight with a 190d9 who pilot name had zero stars next to it. I shot both wings off, the elevators, had it smoking and leaking. This player managed to fly away and come back 5 minutes later to kill a drone.... it's flight capabilities were as if the plane had no damage but it had no wings :( u ain't turning without wings. You can coast a long time in some planes I get that but this was ridiculous.

I'm not here to police this game. I'm not going out of my way when I'm paying $15 a sub in 2024 for a game this old and unsupervised.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: BigR on April 22, 2024, 01:18:42 PM
so are you not willing to tell us what you think has changed?
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 22, 2024, 01:33:38 PM
so are you not willing to tell us what you think has changed?
after participating on this forum since 2011 and knowing exactly how this is going to go my answer is ABSOLUTELY NOT openly discussing this topic. It's never productive and only a matter of time before this thread becomes a dumpster fire <S> sry not sry
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: GasTeddy on April 22, 2024, 01:51:32 PM

Off topic... how about this for AH gossip. Other night I had a fight with a 190d9 who pilot name had zero stars next to it. I shot both wings off, the elevators, had it smoking and leaking. This player managed to fly away and come back 5 minutes later to kill a drone.... it's flight capabilities were as if the plane had no damage but it had no wings :( u ain't turning without wings. You can coast a long time in some planes I get that but this was ridiculous.


I've witnessed some similar phenomenon and other slightly weird things, but as the chorus is singing "there are no cheats in here", I haven't bothered myself to even mention them.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: LCADolby on April 22, 2024, 03:01:52 PM
Film it, Email HTC the film.

The analyser sees all.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: GasTeddy on April 22, 2024, 04:01:11 PM
I do not film anything in AH. I did that in WB and became the most hated pilot at reds, as greens lost all their superpilots and remaining ones became normal mortals. Except one who is still using such a lag it's always tombola where to shoot.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 22, 2024, 05:24:19 PM
Film it, Email HTC the film.

The analyser sees all.

NO

and for anyone that wants to question my integrity by not providing evidence for any of this  :cheers:  :neener:
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: TryHard on April 22, 2024, 06:05:32 PM
NO

and for anyone that wants to question my integrity by not providing evidence for any of this  :cheers:  :neener:

So you won't say what any of these "secret" changes have been but you also don't want a reply from dale?

So what is the point of the thread? How can the community comment on something they don't know about
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: CptTrips on April 22, 2024, 06:12:21 PM
So you won't say what any of these "secret" changes have been but you also don't want a reply from dale?

So what is the point of the thread? How can the community comment on something they don't know about

Are you kidding?

We'll comment on anything.  :rofl

Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 22, 2024, 07:54:15 PM
So you won't say what any of these "secret" changes have been but you also don't want a reply from dale?

So what is the point of the thread? How can the community comment on something they don't know about
HUH??

I asked Dale directly in the OP you tard  :neener:

what im not going to do is debate with any of you about what was changed.

if he doesnt wish to respond thats ok. He hasnt said anything about it at all and yet changes have been made......

What am I not allowed to come on here and ask?

I bet some of you are just bursting at the seams to find out what it s and yet you wouldnt contribute a darn thing to the discussion other than an uninvested bias opinion based on your own experience n the game about a topic yall dont even participate in when playing. Like an electrician trying to talk with a carpenter about why a chimney was built wrong......
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: hazmatt on April 22, 2024, 07:55:18 PM
We'll comment on anything.  :rofl

No comment.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: The Fugitive on April 22, 2024, 09:17:17 PM
HUH??

I asked Dale directly in the OP you tard  :neener:

what im not going to do is debate with any of you about what was changed.

if he doesnt wish to respond thats ok. He hasnt said anything about it at all and yet changes have been made......

What am I not allowed to come on here and ask?

I bet some of you are just bursting at the seams to find out what it s and yet you wouldnt contribute a darn thing to the discussion other than an uninvested bias opinion based on your own experience n the game about a topic yall dont even participate in when playing. Like an electrician trying to talk with a carpenter about why a chimney was built wrong......

While I dont play hundreds of hours any more I do still play every Saturday night. I havent seem any "changes" in the game other than game play type of things. With your posts, with out mentioning any of these changes, all you are doing is stirring the pot with falsehoods.

Call HTC, PM Hitech, send him an email or just forget about it.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: scott66 on April 22, 2024, 09:25:18 PM
I called him today FT he's still alive he can answer any questions..BTW TY  FUGI for paying my sub for the next 6mo told HT to put in on your card :salute :salute :aok
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: ROC on April 22, 2024, 09:56:28 PM
Logged in today to test this.  Haven't logged in for over 6 months.  No Update.  Game mechanics can't change without a file update.  So what changed? 
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Dadtallica on April 22, 2024, 10:14:38 PM
Logged in today to test this.  Haven't logged in for over 6 months.  No Update.  Game mechanics can't change without a file update.  So what changed?

It depends on which one of him you’re asking at the time.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: CptTrips on April 22, 2024, 10:16:27 PM
Logged in today to test this.  Haven't logged in for over 6 months.  No Update.  Game mechanics can't change without a file update.  So what changed?

well a config file on the server could have changed without a client change.  Damage levels and multipliers and such. 

So some stuff could have been done seamlessly on the next map change.

But I guess it is a secret, posted on a public forum.  So can't know if it would fall with a category that should have required a client update.

I mean if he knows of a change to the servers game mechanics, isn't that knowledge that all players are entitled to?  I don't see the benefit in the secrecy.



Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: BigR on April 22, 2024, 10:18:24 PM
Logged in today to test this.  Haven't logged in for over 6 months.  No Update.  Game mechanics can't change without a file update.  So what changed?

could be arena settings? Target hardness? Plane damage? I have never really messed with arena settings before, but i imagine thats something that can be changed without any updates?
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: Lusche on April 23, 2024, 03:00:23 AM
well a config file on the server could have changed without a client change.  Damage levels and multipliers and such. 


But that stuff can be easily checked by players, in arena setup.

could be arena settings? Target hardness? Plane damage? I have never really messed with arena settings before, but i imagine thats something that can be changed without any updates?

At least a few years ago, even such a change required a new game version, as any arena (map) reset would change settings back to default.
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: 1stpar3 on April 23, 2024, 05:51:18 AM
I called him today FT he's still alive he can answer any questions..BTW TY  FUGI for paying my sub for the next 6mo told HT to put in on your card :salute :salute :aok
How did you find that out?   I have had a "Mystery" benefactor since June '23 I just recently found out,LOL   I went to purchase something and Pre-Paid Card was denied?   Card expired 6/23?  :rofl   The purchase was a keep Rud3boi in game type of thing :devil  Ya, I am a Sadist :aok One of you guys have been paying my account for almost a year!!!!! :rock  I never told anyone my account info?  Rud3 gave me his..so I could get him caught up on subscription fees. You can just call HT and pay for someone's account?  :uhoh  Not sure if I should ask, would he tell me, WHO it was?  :rock  Dang I love you fellers!!!!
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: The Fugitive on April 23, 2024, 07:57:26 AM
I called him today FT he's still alive he can answer any questions..BTW TY  FUGI for paying my sub for the next 6mo told HT to put in on your card :salute :salute :aok

No problem! It was the least I could do after that load of Playstations fell off your truck in front of my house. It all balances out!  <S>
Title: Re: How come game mechanics were changed but never announced to the community?
Post by: mERv on April 23, 2024, 12:18:39 PM
No problem! It was the least I could do after that load of Playstations fell off your truck in front of my house. It all balances out!  <S>

 :rofl :cheers: