General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BOBO on July 17, 2024, 09:44:20 PM
Title: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: BOBO on July 17, 2024, 09:44:20 PM
Anyone know what make/model he's carrying? Or if these are fakes? I grabbed them from multiple news sites (BBC, The Guardian, and other mainstream publishers)
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: The Fugitive on July 17, 2024, 09:50:32 PM
Thats an agent on top of Trump.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Maverick on July 18, 2024, 10:40:51 AM
Trump was facing the other direction when he went to the floor. That is one of the faster Agents covering him. He would have had more cover if the female meal team 6 squatty body got there first though.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 18, 2024, 04:24:31 PM
I still literally cannot understand how there were no comms to SS to move Trump in the 2 minutes people noticed him on the roof. The cop falls off the ladder, radios the team of the shooter, it goes on high alert within seconds and they move Trump. Why did SS get no comms? They didn't even flinch until they heard the shots. I can't figure that part out.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 18, 2024, 05:05:36 PM
I still literally cannot understand how there were no comms to SS to move Trump in the 2 minutes people noticed him on the roof. The cop falls off the ladder, radios the team of the shooter, it goes on high alert within seconds and they move Trump. Why did SS get no comms? They didn't even flinch until they heard the shots. I can't figure that part out.
Recent news is, SS were told off suspicious person 1 hr before. I’m very far from a conspiracy theorist but something stinks here. Will just have to wait for hearings.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: DmonSlyr on July 18, 2024, 06:18:05 PM
Recent news is, SS were told off suspicious person 1 hr before. I’m very far from a conspiracy theorist but something stinks here. Will just have to wait for hearings.
Yes, but if you watch some videos behind Trump, those SS agents had no idea to react until the shots. Therefore, they didn't get any coms from PA police in the 2 minutes that people were pointing him out and while the cop fell off the ladder. 2 situations that should have immediately alerted SS to take Trump off stage.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: icepac on July 18, 2024, 07:53:34 PM
In miami, he would have been pelted with rocks and bottles.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: fuzeman on July 19, 2024, 03:30:23 AM
I was under the impression that he had to turn in his firearms after his convictions.
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Post by: Eagler on July 19, 2024, 05:05:03 AM
Yes, but if you watch some videos behind Trump, those SS agents had no idea to react until the shots. Therefore, they didn't get any coms from PA police in the 2 minutes that people were pointing him out and while the cop fell off the ladder. 2 situations that should have immediately alerted SS to take Trump off stage.
It was just reported that police did radio man on roof. But remember man on roof is not so much a threat, man on roof with gun is. No one reported a gun because it wasn’t seen yet. He wasn’t walking around with it (on video), he planted it where he was going to shoot from the day before. Man on roof could have just been someone getting a view. You can’t shoot someone for that.
What is bad is SS allowed Trump to dictate when he left the stage, he wouldn’t get up (you can hear SS yelling at him to move), looking for shoes is ridiculous, taking time to raise fist is ridiculous, SS allowing his head to be above theirs was ridiculous, a second shooter could have hit that. They took note of suspicious person with a range finder 1 hr before, i thought I heard.
I feel bad a mere kid made such a choice and getting killed so early in life. From what I heard he was normally a good guy, he made a very bad choice and IMO that’s a shame.
I feel bad for everyone killed or hurt because some people insist on pushing limits, pushing buttons. A lot of bad choices made.
The stars of failure aligned.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Eagler on July 19, 2024, 08:41:36 AM
Yes let's feel sorry for the shooter now...or at least the one getting the blame today...
Wonder if Oswald was bullied in high school... :( :rolleyes:
Eagler
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 19, 2024, 09:11:28 AM
It was just reported that police did radio man on roof. But remember man on roof is not so much a threat, man on roof with gun is. No one reported a gun because it wasn’t seen yet. He wasn’t walking around with it (on video), he planted it where he was going to shoot from the day before. Man on roof could have just been someone getting a view. You can’t shoot someone for that.
What is bad is SS allowed Trump to dictate when he left the stage, he wouldn’t get up (you can hear SS yelling at him to move), looking for shoes is ridiculous, taking time to raise fist is ridiculous, SS allowing his head to be above theirs was ridiculous, a second shooter could have hit that. They took note of suspicious person with a range finder 1 hr before, i thought I heard.
I feel bad a mere kid made such a choice and getting killed so early in life. From what I heard he was normally a good guy, he made a very bad choice and IMO that’s a shame.
I feel bad for everyone killed or hurt because some people insist on pushing limits, pushing buttons. A lot of bad choices made.
The stars of failure aligned.
I never feel bad when a turd dies. The world is better off. Pushing buttons? Words are words... it is how you yourself take them that will be the issue or not. The kid had issues and paid the price. The world is better off without those who fail on such a grand scale.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 19, 2024, 09:38:30 AM
I never feel bad when a turd dies. The world is better off. Pushing buttons? Words are words... it is how you yourself take them that will be the issue or not. The kid had issues and paid the price. The world is better off without those who fail on such a grand scale.
I’m not going to disagree, it all depends on how one squints their eyes. Everything is survivable, except death.
Some people turn themselves around, some don’t.
We’ve all made bad choices early in life. Some were lucky enough to live life long enough to no longer make those bad decisions.
Same can be said about suicide, 5 more minutes of thought could have changed that decision.
Everything about this is unfortunate. The consequences of bad choices.
Contrary to popular belief, I refuse hysteria. Its not a rational state of mind. I find nothing wrong with empathy for all equally. Death cannot be corrected.
Yes, I do believe that karma will deal with bad people. Seen it happen countless times in life. Sooner or later it finds its target. Karma was dealt to the shooter instantly.
Whats done is done.
Tomorrow will deal a new catastrophe, don’t waste time on fixation
Hysteria breeds stress, stress is poison to the body and spirit. The best choices cone from calm.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Maverick on July 19, 2024, 10:02:47 AM
I've been on some Presidential escorts when a candidate visited my city while I was on Motors. The SS does not have, and does not want to share a freq with the locals. As a result any local radio traffic has to go through either the dispatcher then via phone to the local agent in charge or with a local LEO as a liaison to the SS in the "command tent/ building". The SS liked to simply dictate instructions then went and did their own thing. They also said that if something happened, a Motor went down or there was a collision. they would NOT slow or stop. They seriously advised any Officer on the ground to try and crawl off the road to avoid being run over.
I have no doubt that the SS had no idea what was going on with the local LEWO freqs. I'm not sure that there were also not multiple local agencies involved which means even more frequencies and often locals can't talk to each other either if in different agencies.
It looked to me like the SS just wanted to be in charge of the center area and farmed out the rest to local LEO's.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 19, 2024, 10:35:04 AM
I've been on some Presidential escorts when a candidate visited my city while I was on Motors. The SS does not have, and does not want to share a freq with the locals. As a result any local radio traffic has to go through either the dispatcher then via phone to the local agent in charge or with a local LEO as a liaison to the SS in the "command tent/ building". The SS liked to simply dictate instructions then went and did their own thing. They also said that if something happened, a Motor went down or there was a collision. they would NOT slow or stop. They seriously advised any Officer on the ground to try and crawl off the road to avoid being run over.
I have no doubt that the SS had no idea what was going on with the local LEWO freqs. I'm not sure that there were also not multiple local agencies involved which means even more frequencies and often locals can't talk to each other either if in different agencies.
It looked to me like the SS just wanted to be in charge of the center area and farmed out the rest to local LEO's.
Thats the way I understand it.
I don’t know instance to instance. But when they have come to our area certain RF and cells were jammed. Not sure if they do that for formers.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Eagler on July 19, 2024, 10:49:17 AM
Looks to me like the ss boss was a dei/friend of shrill Jill hire unqualified for the position...
She needs to be fired so she doesn't have benefits for the rest of her life..
Hoping it was just stupidity and not something deeper..
Eagler
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 19, 2024, 10:56:05 AM
I've been on some Presidential escorts when a candidate visited my city while I was on Motors. The SS does not have, and does not want to share a freq with the locals. As a result any local radio traffic has to go through either the dispatcher then via phone to the local agent in charge or with a local LEO as a liaison to the SS in the "command tent/ building".
We had police dispatcher sitting in our dispatching center and used radio we put in their frequency. During those times, when I was carrying annoying earpiece and polymer gadgets hanging from belt, ensuring big boys do not steal silverware.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Eagler on July 20, 2024, 05:19:40 AM
Why was a second story window with los to trump supposedly found open and not mentioned yet?
Like letting the fox investigate the chicken coup attack.
Eagler
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: IntelDan on July 20, 2024, 06:19:19 AM
The change in energy/sound of the various shots could just be the direction of fire. The second CS team appears to using suppressed Barret .300 PRCs. I think the SS is using unsuppressed Sako TRGs in .338 Lapua (Baretta Defense Tech), or .300 Win Mag. The open window is really odd.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Eagler on July 20, 2024, 06:37:10 AM
I hear 3 different reports...but I am not a firearms expert
I didn't know the ss are stating they only fired once..which would be the final very unique sounding shot right? The 1st 3 rounds seem to come from a different gun than the next volley did before the final odd sounding report..imo
Should be easy enough to debunk by counting bullet casings on the roof next to the kids body before they washed the roof off right? Depending who was 1st on the roof I guess..
Eagler
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: IntelDan on July 20, 2024, 12:44:03 PM
What year did Kennedy make the CIA kill list? And we just found out recently where the magic bullet came from?
Good luck waiting on the shell casings.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 20, 2024, 01:00:45 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me none, kinda what comes along with making most the world angry and worried. History repeats itself, for a reason, so do the recourses.
So ya, this conspiracy could have some weight,…for a massive change. Hey, 1 out of 2000 isn’t so bad. Oh, wait!
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: NOT on July 21, 2024, 03:06:25 PM
To answer original question....
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Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: RUSH1 on July 25, 2024, 12:27:38 PM
Wouldn’t surprise me none, kinda what comes along with making most the world angry and worried. History repeats itself, for a reason, so do the recourses.
So ya, this conspiracy could have some weight,…for a massive change. Hey, 1 out of 2000 isn’t so bad. Oh, wait!
Correct. Countries do tend to get upset when they no longer get paid by us to behave a certain way publicly, while being allowed to behave in ways detrimental to the U.S. behind the scenes. Great point.
1 out of 2000? For starts Russian collusion, Covid origin, Vax data, Hunter laptop coverup, Twitter/Facebook censorship ...
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: Animl-AW on July 25, 2024, 02:43:32 PM
Correct. Countries do tend to get upset when they no longer get paid by us to behave a certain way publicly, while being allowed to behave in ways detrimental to the U.S. behind the scenes. Great point.
1 out of 2000? For starts Russian collusion, Covid origin, Vax data, Hunter laptop coverup, Twitter/Facebook censorship ...
<blank stare> yep, you missed the point. When you wanna be a dictator, back stab allies like Britain, Germany,… basically all of NATO and try to make them enemies while you hold nukes and make world enemies allies instead,… yep, groups like mentioned above start getting ideas. I remember a few guys in the 40s, who said person worships, met that scenario, the same results. History repeats itself, so do the recourses.
Just sayin, in this case the post reply above, that incited my response, could happen.
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: RUSH1 on July 25, 2024, 03:34:38 PM
When you wanna be a dictator, back stab allies like Britain, Germany,… basically all of NATO and try to make them enemies while you hold nukes and make world enemies allies instead,… yep, groups like mentioned above start getting ideas. I remember a few guys in the 40s, who said person worships, met that scenario, the same results. History repeats itself, so do the recourses.
You will have to explain how we back stabbed Britain and Germany? Was it our position on Brexit or Nord Stream 2 at the time? What enemies were we becoming chummy with?
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Post by: Eagler on July 25, 2024, 03:43:00 PM
Having our allies carry their weight in organizations like nato isn't back stabbing anyone..
The heckling useless border czar joker is going to lose to president Camacho...
Not sure how anyone can support the corruption and lies this administration has spewed for the last 4 years...time for the other side of the coin to try to balance out the stupidity..
Eagler
Title: Re: What was in Donald's holster?
Post by: GasTeddy on July 31, 2024, 02:02:32 AM
People are polarized all over. Instead of working together to gain something, they spend enormous amounts of energy and time just to do harm for those, who disagree. In here, in there.
Evil has to be stopped. The problem is modern time wokecancel culture liberalism, which sees everything outside the bubble as evil. That's what brainwashed tunnel visionists are feeding to folks and as healthy critical thinking has vanished and hatred taken its place, we are where we are.
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Post by: Eagler on July 31, 2024, 05:40:28 AM
The irony is we have one side saying yesterday the other is going to destroy democracy while they have totally corrupted the election process by selecting their candidate without a primary...just allowing the elite to pick the next puppet...
They were aok when they pulled the same stunt in 2020 with corrupt potato head so why not with the even more ignorant bs vp...
Media trying to make her sound sane and responsible and the other side nuts and dangerous .. :rolleyes:
America has seen its best days .. greed and corruption from the top has taken it down imo..something our external enemies have not been able to..we did to ourselves