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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on August 12, 2024, 01:10:06 PM
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Old fashion Cable tv with dvr baby here..
What are the options for television if cable TV is not available?
I thought starlink was both but it's only data..
DirectTV isn't the best with rain and poor footprint
Youtube tv is about as customer friendly as nothing and seems to like to buffer alot
Do you guys just use an outdoor antenna and stream netflix?
Eagler
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HD antenna in the attic with a booster gets me the Dallas stations 50-70 miles away.
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Old fashion Cable tv with dvr baby here..
What are the options for television if cable TV is not available?
I thought starlink was both but it's only data..
DirectTV isn't the best with rain and poor footprint
Youtube tv is about as customer friendly as nothing and seems to like to buffer alot
Do you guys just use an outdoor antenna and stream netflix?
Eagler
We were lucky enough to have fiber installed by our rural power cooperative. Before that, I liked Dish Network. I grew up with Direct, and Dish was always super easy to deal with and hardly ever went out unless it was storming bad.
I currently use YT TV, and it doesn't buffer. What are your download speeds?
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HD antenna in the attic with a booster gets me the Dallas stations 50-70 miles away.
Over towards Jasper, I noticed the HD connects to nothing. We were camping at Martin Dies Jr State Park. My setup in my RV usually reaches out quite well. No big deal as we rarely watch TV while camping. I like to test it everywhere though.
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streaming apps
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YouTube TV. We use it at home and get all the cable channels plus the local ones. The “local ones” are determined by the IP address you use.tv.youtube.com (http://tv.youtube.com)
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I have Starlink... and it's a long silly story. I also have ADSL (based on my Landline provider). IF my Starlink Antenna had an unobstructed view, Starlink is all I would have. For the Computer (Gaming), Starlink is not an option. The wife uses Roku via Starlink for TV and it seems to work fine given buffering & Starlinks very fast reconnect speed. I don't watch TV. I just don't. I didn't even have to wean myself off. Just found that anything worth watching on TV (which is very near nothing IMO), I can find in other ways.... and have a lot of control over it.
Bout to shut off Starlink but first I'm going to figure a way to mount the antenna at a different location on the roof without paying them $300 for a stupid pole on a V shaped mount. There's a chance, however slight, that there are no 100yr old Oaks in the way (already took one down). If there is, I'm really going to miss Starlink. If no obstructions, I'm sure it would be perfect. I've never had a "clear" view for the antenna... but, before I was in the service area proper, I could game up to an hour. The view area was almost all North. Once they got more Sats up and I got covered by the service area, the antenna view area opened up (at least to the West) and found a HUGE old Oak essentially blocking the Western sky, and now gaming is maybe 10min at best before a disco. So ya, in my world Starlink is fine for TV. Had both Direct & Dish over the years and you couldn't pay me to go back to either of them. Well, you could but it would be obnoxiously expensive. ;)
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I use Amazon Fire Stick $50 one time fee, it's a streaming device that plugs into your TV via USB, size of 2 fingers, I have more channels than cable by far,. you can buy it as Best Buy.. simply runs off the intardnet. Good solid picture with HD. I subscribe to Sling for $40 per month, 400 channels. But you have a tons of options to subscribe to.
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I use Amazon Fire Stick $50 one time fee, it's a streaming device that plugs into your TV via USB, size of 2 fingers, I have more channels than cable by far,. you can buy it as Best Buy.. simply runs off the intardnet. Good solid picture with HD. I subscribe to Sling for $40 per month, 400 channels. But you have a tons of options to subscribe to.
Ended up getting the 4k max fire stick via prime last night - crazy at the door in under 3 hours
With an ethernet adapter I hooked it up via hardline to the router
Youtube tv with the 4k package and it blows away the picture on cable tv
We can use yt tv at the in-laws too once we get starlink going
Thanks for the information and ideas!
Eagler
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Ended up getting the 4k max fire stick via prime last night - crazy at the door in under 3 hours
With an ethernet adapter I hooked it up via hardline to the router
Youtube tv with the 4k package and it blows away the picture on cable tv
We can use yt tv at the in-laws too once we get starlink going
Thanks for the information and ideas!
Good choices. Also remember you have DVR capabilities with Youtube TV using the "save to library" feature.
Eagler
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Which plan did you get and how much is it? I was looking and for the $72 a month it doesnt look like you get all that much
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Yep that's it with another $10 for 4k
Getting used to the menu navigation as it's very different from the cable converter box interface
Eagler
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If you have a smart tv, it should have USB connections on the back, fire tv stick will plug right into it.
There is also a free tv option, channels are questionable. But it has a list of different plans like Prime Apple tv, sling yt etc.. pick your prefrence.
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Which plan did you get and how much is it? I was looking and for the $72 a month it doesnt look like you get all that much
What are you referring to?
With Fire TV Stick you can sub to many options. It even has 100s of free channels.
I didn’t see anything for $72.
Sling alone for $40ish has all the Xfinity channels.
Again, not sure what you’re referring to.
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What are you referring to?
With Fire TV Stick you can sub to many options. It even has 100s of free channels.
I didn’t see anything for $72.
Sling alone for $40ish has all the Xfinity channels.
Again, not sure what you’re referring to.
He is referring to the monthly fee for youtube tv..then add $10 to that for 4k
Eagler
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I cut the cord a few years back. Last year I bought a nice big 4k TV. Imagine my surprise to find there ain't a whole lot of 4k content out there! It's usually sports but not much of that either. Selected games yeah but kind of a bummer. But the high def YT vids are stunning.
If you have decent internet streaming is the way. Depending on what services you get it's usually much cheaper than cable and you can swap out subs monthly if you want to watch something on another one. Can't do that with cable! What pushed me over the edge was just adding up the rental fees Comcast was charging me for all their gear! Every set top box (had a few) was like 7 bucks a month, modem was 15. I just bought a bunch of Rokus and left that crap in the rear view.
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I cut the cord a few years back. Last year I bought a nice big 4k TV. Imagine my surprise to find there ain't a whole lot of 4k content out there! It's usually sports but not much of that either. Selected games yeah but kind of a bummer. But the high def YT vids are stunning.
If you have decent internet streaming is the way. Depending on what services you get it's usually much cheaper than cable and you can swap out subs monthly if you want to watch something on another one. Can't do that with cable! What pushed me over the edge was just adding up the rental fees Comcast was charging me for all their gear! Every set top box (had a few) was like 7 bucks a month, modem was 15. I just bought a bunch of Rokus and left that crap in the rear view.
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I had Comcast, got up to $280 per mo. Now I pay $100 for intardnet and $40 for Sling. Around here AT&T has optic fiber intardnet, that’s my next change.
Cable TV has a higher compression rate than streaming. Which is why stream 4k is much better.
At least you have the option of 4k when you find it.
Which doesn’t cost that much more. I have 4k TVs too.
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Cut the cord a month ago. Sling, prime and netflix loaded. Sling has fox and CNN for my political fix. Netflix has a bunch of docs that are good. Prime has a bunch of "rent" lately so it might get the boot. Im screwed for football tho...
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What's Sling?
Have used Sling boxes back in the day but that can't be it
Eagler
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https://www.sling.com/programming/sports (https://www.sling.com/programming/sports)
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Sling has fox and CNN for my political fix.
This is why we can't have nice things. :lol
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I’m not sure the definition of “cutting the cord” is being correctly used here.
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I’m not sure the definition of “cutting the cord” is being correctly used here.
I agree. Paid streaming is not cutting the cord. Amazon Prime is worth the price for the free shipping alone so we'll continue with that, only. If you have a Samsung Smart TV there are a lot of free "channels" to be streamed without Prime or another service.
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I’m not sure the definition of “cutting the cord” is being correctly used here.
I can tell you basic cable tv is still a deal compared to the alternatives...
It's cheaper than yt tv and a needed data service for that to work with more channels and easier interface
Only going yt tv as we can then use it at in-laws as well..
Eagler
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Daughter has had a Samsung Frame for a few years now. We liked hers so got one a year ago and like it a lot. You can subscribe to an art service but there is no shortage of free artwork to be had. It is a smart tv too of course. Here's ours. No need for power or any other connection on the wall. The Frame uses one clear cable to connect to the hidden box. That cable provides power, video, and audio.
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This is the only wire and you'd have a hard time seeing it if you didn't know where it is. Of course a mount must be attached to the wall.
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Like any relatively new TV, turn off the damn soap opera mode. It's usually called some form of motion smoothing.
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I agree. Paid streaming is not cutting the cord. Amazon Prime is worth the price for the free shipping alone so we'll continue with that, only. If you have a Samsung Smart TV there are a lot of free "channels" to be streamed without Prime or another service.
I'll never own another Samsung TV. It used to be all I owned. Had 4 of them. One had a issue with a specific chip and Samsung was standing behind it except on my model. I bought the chip and replaced ot myself. Fixed another issue they had with red LED over heating. When those tvs were replaced, they were not samsung.
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Most all of internet providers are already replacing set top boxes with streaming devices.
Biggest problem is not having local storage and instead streaming what you saved from the cloud.
Rewind, FF, and pause are not supported in a fashion that users will enjoy.
The change coming is that you have to pay for TV service to stream from your provider or they will start imposing data caps for people using huge amounts of data.
Though I prefer the 2019 (latest) Sling or Roku, I caved and got the spectrum enabled streambox because the remote has numbers and you can type the cable channel numbers as well as Voice control. With ethernet conection, I've noticed none of the complaints associated with the reviews.
I flew my entire aces high career using a cell phone as a hot spot getting latency numbers never better than 160ms (iphone5 with LTE disabled) or 350ms (blackberry). Aces High worked well with that latency and nobody ever complained I was warping.
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I'll never own another Samsung TV. It used to be all I owned. Had 4 of them. One had a issue with a specific chip and Samsung was standing behind it except on my model. I bought the chip and replaced ot myself. Fixed another issue they had with red LED over heating. When those tvs were replaced, they were not samsung.
I've owned several over the last 20 years. Other than a curved screen I accidentally broke never had a problem with any of them.
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I've had a couple of Samsung fridges, have one now. No trouble with either. I'll never buy another Whirlpool anything.
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A little advice regarding curved screen TVs. Don't lay them face down on a flat surface to install a mounting bracket. ;)
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....and don't buy open box TVs above a certain size.
"open box" can mean "no box" in some cases and a large screen tv will flex pretty easily enough to crack it.
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What's Sling?
Have used Sling boxes back in the day but that can't be it
Eagler
Its a streaming service available within Fire TV Stick
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I very strictly use Samsung and Bose. Never had a problem with either.
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When I had the problem with Samsung not standing behind their product.... in communicating with one of their techs, he told me their TVs are only designed to last 5 years. At the time I posted that in several places. The only Samsung device I use now is their ultra phones.
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When I had the problem with Samsung not standing behind their product.... in communicating with one of their techs, he told me their TVs are only designed to last 5 years. At the time I posted that in several places. The only Samsung device I use now is their ultra phones.
That is messed up. I wonder why he said that about his own company. Prolly doesn’t work there anymore.
But ya, I get your sad experience.
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....in communicating with one of their techs, he told me their TVs are only designed to last 5 years.
Not sure I've had anything modern (regarding display) last much longer than that.
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Kinda slipping off subject
Those huge LED video walls you see at concerts and other events? They sure look nice when they are working. They go up in panels that clip together. The maintenance to get them going 100% can be mind blowing. Always working on them to the last minute. Constantly panels going out. Replacing them after its setup is a true PITA.
Point being, the technology is awesome, but very fragile, even when made to be road worthy. In other words, look, but don’t touch.
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Not sure I've had anything modern (regarding display) last much longer than that.
It was a big deal regarding that chip and made headlines.
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Kinda slipping off subject
Those huge LED video walls you see at concerts and other events? They sure look nice when they are working. They go up in panels that clip together. The maintenance to get them going 100% can be mind blowing. Always working on them to the last minute. Constantly panels going out. Replacing them after its setup is a true PITA.
Point being, the technology is awesome, but very fragile, even when made to be road worthy. In other words, look, but don’t touch.
Just messing with small setups.... I can only imagine it being multiplied. Heebie jeebies indeed.
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Just messing with small setups.... I can only imagine it being multiplied. Heebie jeebies indeed.
Bhaa! Big is just “more of the same”. Redundancy.
One panel the size of a tv contains smaller panels.
We start with chain motors connected by chain to the rafters, and mounts (bumpers)
Connect a row on the bottom, raise motors (they climb the chains), connect another row to the bottom. Rinse and repeat until motors are at production hieght, move the stage on wheels under it. :).
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Shuffler what 5th are you using these days?
We are looking at a old new 2019 Palomino Columbus Compass 298RLC that hasn't been used due to covid and health issues of the original owners..
Looking like we will need to replace the tires before we pull it to the in-laws property..
A new adventure for sure!
Eagler
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Shuffler what 5th are you using these days?
We are looking at a old new 2019 Palomino Columbus Compass 298RLC that hasn't been used due to covid and health issues of the original owners..
Looking like we will need to replace the tires before we pull it to the in-laws property..
A new adventure for sure!
Eagler
Currently a Cougar 29RLI with all option. Will probably pull the trigger on a new one this fall. Been looking for a bit. Probably going with the Durango 326RLT. We go camping more these days and the wife would like a little more room.
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Currently a Cougar 29RLI with all option. Will probably pull the trigger on a new one this fall. Been looking for a bit. Probably going with the Durango 333RLT. We go camping more these days and the wife would like a little more room.
Cool!
What's the longest period of time that you have spent in it none stop ?
Looking at ours like a home away from home living in it 2 to 4 weeks at a time depending on the in-laws health
A king bed was one thing we had to have along with a full size residential refrigerator and this one has both
Eagler
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You guys are living my retirement goals. I'm jealous. I've got 24 more years of public education to look forward to until I can retire. Luckily, I'll only be 56 when I can draw full retirement...
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Cool!
What's the longest period of time that you have spent in it none stop ?
Looking at ours like a home away from home living in it 2 to 4 weeks at a time depending on the in-laws health
A king bed was one thing we had to have along with a full size residential refrigerator and this one has both
Eagler
14 months..... in our driveway after Hurricane Harvey flooded our home and we had to have our home rebuilt.
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14 months..... in our driveway after Hurricane Harvey flooded our home and we had to have our home rebuilt.
Ouch bet that was interesting...just you and the wife? Any pets?
Getting our pitbull in and out of the 5th wheel is something we are working out..
Eagler
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Ouch bet that was interesting...just you and the wife? Any pets?
Getting our pitbull in and out of the 5th wheel is something we are working out..
Eagler
My Lab and my Wife's 2 dachshunds at the time stayed in the house at with a/c. We would let them out to do their thing and play.
They are kenneled at a "Dog Resort" when we travel. If we go to a friend's ranch, we may take them.
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My Lab and my Wife's 2 dachshunds at the time stayed in the house at with a/c. We would let them out to do their thing and play.
They are kenneled at a "Dog Resort" when we travel. If we go to a friend's ranch, we may take them.
Sorry to hear of your troubles.
I raised 5 black labs, ine after another. from baby bottle to old age death,. Extremely well trained to just hand signals. Best dogs ever. 3 of them the local police approached me to sell them to the dept. never did though.
Labs are my best friends. :)
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Old fashion Cable tv with dvr baby here..
What are the options for television if cable TV is not available?
I thought starlink was both but it's only data..
DirectTV isn't the best with rain and poor footprint
Youtube tv is about as customer friendly as nothing and seems to like to buffer alot
Do you guys just use an outdoor antenna and stream netflix?
Eagler
We had Dish/Direct for YEARS, finally dumped them when the bill hit $140/month for the 4th of 5 levels of BASIC.
(I stupidly told wife to call them up, threaten to cancel, thinking they'd SURELY knuckle under. Called her next day, she said they were gonna send us a box to put their stuff in)
No decent cell reception either. Finally discovered that if you cant get a wisp of cell signal at top of the house, a booster may fix that. For 15 years, we had a 25' fiberglass pole with an omni-directional antenna on top, with a RG-6 cable running down to a 4G cell phone booster. Used a wifi hotspot to feed the PC in living room, and we watched tv with a computer. (it can be done, takes a bit of doing)
AFTER afore-mentioned 15 years, we got fiber right up to the house, (owing to the fact that people in rural areas can neither work remotely, nor attend school remotely without high-speed internet, hence a government program) WE still watch tv the same way, with same computer. We pay $70/month for internet, have Prime, Netflix, Disney+, couple others. A login from son-in-law (Dish employee) lets us watch network tv, etc. Absent that, we'd probably have to pony up for YouTube tv or something
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We had Dish/Direct for YEARS, finally dumped them when the bill hit $140/month for the 4th of 5 levels of BASIC.
(I stupidly told wife to call them up, threaten to cancel, thinking they'd SURELY knuckle under. Called her next day, she said they were gonna send us a box to put their stuff in)
No decent cell reception either. Finally discovered that if you cant get a wisp of cell signal at top of the house, a booster may fix that. For 15 years, we had a 25' fiberglass pole with an omni-directional antenna on top, with a RG-6 cable running down to a 4G cell phone booster. Used a wifi hotspot to feed the PC in living room, and we watched tv with a computer. (it can be done, takes a bit of doing)
AFTER afore-mentioned 15 years, we got fiber right up to the house, (owing to the fact that people in rural areas can neither work remotely, nor attend school remotely without high-speed internet, hence a government program) WE still watch tv the same way, with same computer. We pay $70/month for internet, have Prime, Netflix, Disney+, couple others. A login from son-in-law (Dish employee) lets us watch network tv, etc. Absent that, we'd probably have to pony up for YouTube tv or something
Heya beej :salute good to know you're still doing ok out in the sticks!
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LIVIN THE DREAM!
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We had Dish/Direct for YEARS, finally dumped them when the bill hit $140/month for the 4th of 5 levels of BASIC.
(I stupidly told wife to call them up, threaten to cancel, thinking they'd SURELY knuckle under. Called her next day, she said they were gonna send us a box to put their stuff in)
No decent cell reception either. Finally discovered that if you cant get a wisp of cell signal at top of the house, a booster may fix that. For 15 years, we had a 25' fiberglass pole with an omni-directional antenna on top, with a RG-6 cable running down to a 4G cell phone booster. Used a wifi hotspot to feed the PC in living room, and we watched tv with a computer. (it can be done, takes a bit of doing)
AFTER afore-mentioned 15 years, we got fiber right up to the house, (owing to the fact that people in rural areas can neither work remotely, nor attend school remotely without high-speed internet, hence a government program) WE still watch tv the same way, with same computer. We pay $70/month for internet, have Prime, Netflix, Disney+, couple others. A login from son-in-law (Dish employee) lets us watch network tv, etc. Absent that, we'd probably have to pony up for YouTube tv or something
I uss the same setup with the signal booster, works pretty awesome. Not cheap however.
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5th wheel setup on the in-laws spread..
Sank a 14' quartered telephone pole to mount the off air antenna with rotor then got it to the TV slide..
Now have around 40 off air digital channels
Will be setting up starlink next trip up in a couple of weeks...
Anyone heard of something called Extreme tv?
Seems popular around these parts though it doesn't sound to legal..and buffers like crazy on wireless from what I have seen
Eagler
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Based on what you described, this may be it. https://xtremehdiptv.io/en/
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I uss the same setup with the signal booster, works pretty awesome. Not cheap however.
I had an unlimited Verizon data plan from the late 90's (downside it had max 600 talking minutes, outside of my 10 "favorites"). Everytime they upgraded Android, I had to spend a week figuring out how to hack my phone again, so it wouldn't call up Verizon when I turned on the hotspot. Did that for 15-20 years. Eventually, I couldn't do that anymore, and ponied up for a modern plan with the max hotspot usage (30 gigs, which is about a week of TV watching, if you're careful to force the tv to use the lower resolutions) We bout 4 30 gig chips for the hotspot, changed out the sim card every weekend...did THAT for a few years. When Covid started up, a government program became available for peeps who live in the sticks, and we could grab a hotspot from the public library, swap it out every couple weeks. FINALLY, fiber right up to the house!
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I had an unlimited Verizon data plan from the late 90's (downside it had max 600 talking minutes, outside of my 10 "favorites"). Everytime they upgraded Android, I had to spend a week figuring out how to hack my phone again, so it wouldn't call up Verizon when I turned on the hotspot. Did that for 15-20 years. Eventually, I couldn't do that anymore, and ponied up for a modern plan with the max hotspot usage (30 gigs, which is about a week of TV watching, if you're careful to force the tv to use the lower resolutions) We bout 4 30 gig chips for the hotspot, changed out the sim card every weekend...did THAT for a few years. When Covid started up, a government program became available for peeps who live in the sticks, and we could grab a hotspot from the public library, swap it out every couple weeks. FINALLY, fiber right up to the house!
Yeah I'm hoping this government package will get fiber out to my place in the next few years. I still use dish in combination with some streaming and haven't ran into data issues yet. My 4g internet service claims unlimited, but I highly doubt it doesn't get throttled at a certain data usage.
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Thank Trump! He recognized that rural (Republican) voters were underserved