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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Shane on October 08, 2024, 10:02:15 AM
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This is the worst I've ever noticed it being at this time of the day. This is what leads to a lot of quiet quitting.
On top of the usual swarming by bish, you have knits hitting rooks too.
May as well just go to one side vs toolsheds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Rc2wJM3/ahss12a.png) (https://postimages.org/)
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Yeah, I really don't like forced team making, but this is ridiculous and not fair to the gameplay. I don't think it hurt the game more, tbh, I mean we lost 20k deaths over last year in Sept. But it does hurt the game. The huge maps on the weekends i definitely see lower #s in the morning/afternoon and it's like starring at a blank huge map with very little going on, which doesn't provide a whole lot of reason to roll.
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This is the worst I've ever noticed it being at this time of the day. This is what leads to a lot of quiet quitting.
On top of the usual swarming by bish, you have knits hitting rooks too.
May as well just go to one side vs toolsheds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Rc2wJM3/ahss12a.png) (https://postimages.org/)
I thought I would miss the MA. I don’t as of yet. Learning how to fight using different planes in Match Play is entertaining and even more fun when you can wing up with someone. The enemy planes are relentless. You can also change countries and fight each other along with the AI drones. It seems I make better use of my time there. Constant action if you want it and a great way to test different settings in game (convergence, no tracers…)or on your GPU,PC etc.
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There are times when each side has numbers, and times when each side is the one being double teamed, but it's more impactful in the mornings (and sets the tone for the day) where in evenings there are still enough players to at least do things.
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Morning numbers are so far off that it is unfixable. Problem here is that it is by player choice not a game issue.
Your choice is either to suffer high eny side and join the horde or forget about the map and enjoy getting some easy kills fighting them. I dont approve knights attacking rooks in those hours but you cant stop how people play.
I always say, hordes mean people are getting organized and having fun. It does not last forever as they seem to log off once cartoons come on :devil
Rooks and Knights just need to start recruiting.
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Maybe some changes to ENY values might make it a little easier for the outnumbered sides. Particularly on the GV side of things.
I personally think the whole planeset needs ENY reevaluation if ENY is what we are going to use as a balancing factor.
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Maybe some changes to ENY values might make it a little easier for the outnumbered sides. Particularly on the GV side of things.
I personally think the whole planeset needs ENY reevaluation if ENY is what we are going to use as a balancing factor.
Unfortunately, with the country loyalty people generally display, I think most people would just log rather than switch. Allegedly that's better than an imbalanced horde, but I think it's only barely.
Forced balance would likely improve gameplay the best, but country loyalty just won't allow that.
Wiley.
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For some of us it's a very different game..
Have never gave a rats arse who "won" a map..
It has always been the a2a combat with the map/base capture stuff just a way to hopefully find such a fight..
Many times there just isn't one with these numbers, gameplay and map size
Eagler
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Only it’s the worst YOU’VE ever noticed…
Many days Rooks have the same amount or more in the morning and they don’t fight Bish…
This very much comes across as blaming Knights for something Bishops are entirely responsible for. :headscratch:
What incentive do Knights in this situation have to fly against the horde, yes if you’re careful and select specific targets (bombers, ord etc.) you can have limited success against this and if you stay away from Joker there’s some easier kills. That grew boring for me a few weeks ago, I’ll sleep in instead on days where I could be there.
In addition nearly every morning Capera logs in and ALWAYS hits Knight strats (AA usually) to help Bish. :headscratch:
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P.S.
YKW had zero effect on anything happening in the morning, this has been static for years.
He was much worse overall, ONE player caused significantly more strife than this does.
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It sounds like a target rich environment for a rook player.
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It sounds like a target rich environment for a rook player.
Agreed. The hordes can be hard to stop but if they have a nasty eny then rolling a Tempest is usually good eats.
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I think too much emphasis is put on mornings. Most players are working or school.
I think a lot of games that aren’t in their prime and many that are see the same.
The only time I cared about whole game play is when knits got ganged every weekend.
Other than that, I can either find fights or I can’t. Rarely do I not find a fight, but I usually only fly at night. Got stuffff to do during the day to free up my nights.
I don’t think morning numbers tell us as much status of the game as prime time.
I think what hurts the game more than anything is undue drama. YKW and his dramas did more damage. I think he was out to hurt it as much as possible, and did just that. We lost 30 in regular numbers in that time span. He reversed our numbers momentum, along with relentless sales of pretty planes, we all know who, that had same intension, then summer sucked some away. YKW and Pretty planes salesman worked hand and hand together on Discord, this is FACT.
Lets just hope we keep the game more inviting for winter numbers. We got two problems out of the way and winter is upon us.
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For some of us it's a very different game..
Have never gave a rats arse who "won" a map..
It has always been the a2a combat with the map/base capture stuff just a way to hopefully find such a fight..
Many times there just isn't one with these numbers, gameplay and map size
Eagler
My main concerns.... a2a fights and where my frozen margarita is....
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There are so many fun mission profiles but most want ezmode where the kills come to them.
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Im with Shane on this one. Even for me its starting to get scary numbers wise. There is not much keeping the 24/7 war going outside of morning bish, knit/rook afternoon, and primetime.
Hate to see the decline in just the last year alone :(
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Sorry
But its kinda hard to drag numbers in with negative post, which can make things worse. These are not new conserns :)
Just sayin, no offense intended
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Sorry
But its kinda hard to drag numbers in with negative post, which can make things worse. These are not new conserns :)
Just sayin, no offense intended
New players rarely hit the forums let alone people that haven't subscribed yet, most the people here have been here for years.
Outside of overhauling the game into AHIV I think the only thing that can fix declining subscriber base is pricing. HT would have to rethink the price or come up with other pricing options like maybe 6
months for 75$ one year for $100 or something like that.
Not many players want to pay $15 a month for a dated game with a low player base when there are a lot more modern and competitive options out there.
I would also go as far as to poll people why they left the game. Was it Price, Time, Bad player experiences, Technical issues and so forth? See if there is anything "Fixable".
Me, I have time issues. My stay at home daddy days are gone and I must remain gainfully employed until retirement or I win the Lottery. I currently have a huge backlog of games I haven't touched (Phantom Liberty) and I barely have time to play my main Sim let alone AH3 IL2 Arma3 MSFS Xplane etc. (Note AH3 is the only one on my list that has a monthly subscription)
I can't justify making a $15/Month donation for a game I don't play and wouldn't play but a few times a year.
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New players rarely hit the forums let alone people that haven't subscribed yet, most the people here have been here for years.
Outside of overhauling the game into AHIV I think the only thing that can fix declining subscriber base is pricing. HT would have to rethink the price or come up with other pricing options like maybe 6
months for 75$ one year for $100 or something like that.
Not many players want to pay $15 a month for a dated game with a low player base when there are a lot more modern and competitive options out there.
I would also go as far as to poll people why they left the game. Was it Price, Time, Bad player experiences, Technical issues and so forth? See if there is anything "Fixable".
Me, I have time issues. My stay at home daddy days are gone and I must remain gainfully employed until retirement or I win the Lottery. I currently have a huge backlog of games I haven't touched (Phantom Liberty) and I barely have time to play my main Sim let alone AH3 IL2 Arma3 MSFS Xplane etc. (Note AH3 is the only one on my list that has a monthly subscription)
I can't justify making a $15/Month donation for a game I don't play and wouldn't play but a few times a year.
Ya I get it. You're not "wrong".
Everyone has their own reasoning, I'm not sure there is a blanket answer. Frankly I don't like blanket answers. <shrug> I can run polls, but I can also predict reasoning to a point. WAY too much drama negative on the bbs and 200. We hit an ugly peak with YKW, it will take a lil time to get that washed down the drain. The number of threads and incidents on 200 was way to much negative. Unfortunately, many of the attacks have been towards me and then me responding. There was one issue that could not be let go on. IN some cases I had to have my part in it. Many of those former players who came here to use it as a dumping zone while they mind perfect manners in their new game are gone, for now. Right now, as things are calm and a scenario is about to pop is when we should try to draw return players in.
What we have most is return players. Common question is how the numbers are. Numbers breed numbers. Last year when we/I were reporting number rises on bbs, they numbers rose more. If we're telling people numbers suck, they may not even step back in the ring. I studied this last yr. Reporting rising numbers helped a lot. Reporting sinking numbers had the reverse effect.
I'd like to see reporting numbers on nights when they are above 110. Something I should get back to.
I'm looking at it as not having AHIV. But looking to improve numbers to justify the work, >IF< it were possible to happen. It's the return players I tend to target. Most common question I see besides numbers is "is that game still running?".
Marketing is a science.
IMO $15 per month complaint (.50 cents per day, the price of one happy meal) is a bit over blown. I think this applies more to those who do play multiple games. I only play one game, so 15$ is a sneeze.
I remember last yr I was told I'd never increase much in numbers, which is exactly what they are when I started right now. We went from 112 to 160-200. Doing zero and the YKW nonsense we dropped back down to where we started. I've recently help a cpl new players too.
I guess what I'm saying is,lets refrain from negative post about low numbers and broadcast when they are high. It's just a tweak.
I totally get the limited time thing, my job is bat-sht crazy on hours. I hit retirement Feb1. I need something to do, so I'm selfishly hoping I/We can get things a little back in order so I/we have something to do.
That said, there was NO WAY, I was going to advertise and bring new/return players just to see the YKW nonsense and chase them off. Right now is a good time to make another attempt.
Remember, I worked on AW until the last minute. I have nothing to lose but time to try it again. <shrug> plus it keeps my mind active, a form of therapy I guess.:)
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Outside of overhauling the game into AHIV I think the only thing that can fix declining subscriber base is pricing. HT would have to rethink the price or come up with other pricing options like maybe 6
Free limited set of options…
Say…F4F, A6M2, Yak7, Spit5, P-40F, 109-F, B25C, He111, TBM, KI-67, Goon, Sherman, 251, M-16.
Just enough to get the addiction going. Then pony up the $$$ for a sub. Just spitballing but maybe make scenarios free too.
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GAME PLAY!
That is the biggest thing that’s killing the game.
AM bish horde keeps everyone run into the tower or doing anything other than fighting the horde. Afternoon is the nits trying to take back what was lost in the am horde double team. Evening is 2 sides bashing one side (usually the nits getting ganged).
This is a double edged sword as the guy that’s got a couple hours a day every few days doesn’t want to fly around in the horde with nothing to shoot at it. Then you have the side that’s banged. Most either go to gvs or go hit one of the 100s of empty bases.
There’s a few things that will help this but it requires the owner to get involved. Smaller maps that allow all sides to get at each other. Lower the time switcher to encourage moving around. Get rid of the awacs dar (for lil mak). And a lil common courtesy. If you see a red guy fighting three other of your friend you don’t need to interject into the fight move on.
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Mayhem,
We usually tend to go by posts as to who comes and reads.
Just an example of this snap shot in time.
221 Guests, 8 Users
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"Guests" in this case are mostly crawlers/bots, not real people.
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"Guests" in this case are mostly crawlers/bots, not real people.
"Guests" in this case are mostly crawlers/bots, not real people.
I'm convinced this is the correct assessment.
Hard to imagine this game garners 10 times more attention as it did back in the day, when we had almost 10 times as many players and BBS activity (posts/submissions).
If you look at the forum stats, "most online" suddenly started to skyrocket since late 22/early 23, occasionally reaching over 1000, while back in the day the max was at like 170 (and usually happened only when something 'dramatic' happened, like an extended game downtime).
And just look at what those 'guests' are reading, totally random threads, often more than a decade old like "99th Blue Lagoon Now Looking for members, Loose Squad" from 2011 or "It's about that time again." a single post from 2008 nobody ever answered to.
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"Guests" in this case are mostly crawlers/bots, not real people.
Hmm, not sayin you’re wrong, but how do we know this? Curious, but I don’t doubt you’re right.
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I'm convinced this is the correct assessment.
Hard to imagine this game garners 10 times more attention as it did back in the day, when we had almost 10 times as many players and BBS activity (posts/submissions).
If you look at the forum stats, "most online" suddenly started to skyrocket since late 22/early 23, occasionally reaching over 1000, while back in the day the max was at like 170 (and usually happened only when something 'dramatic' happened, like an extended game downtime).
And just look at what those 'guests' are reading, totally random threads, often more than a decade old like "99th Blue Lagoon Now Looking for members, Loose Squad" from 2011 or "It's about that time again." a single post from 2008 nobody ever answered to.
Well, you’re certainly data driven, which I like over opinion/comments, even my own.
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As Snailman said, they're looking at topics a decade or more old.
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As Snailman said, they're looking at topics a decade or more old.
I do that, for various reasons. I also read without loggin in. I know When GE visits its usually in a very old thread about AWers. But I’ll take your word for it. I don’t thinks its 100% tho.
Owell, I made a soft point
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As Snailman said, they're looking at topics a decade or more old.
It's very odd. I noticed the same thing as Snailman. I'm wondering if some sorta data collection from AI? Only thing I can think.
GAME PLAY!
That is the biggest thing that’s killing the game.
AM bish horde keeps everyone run into the tower or doing anything other than fighting the horde. Afternoon is the nits trying to take back what was lost in the am horde double team. Evening is 2 sides bashing one side (usually the nits getting ganged).
This is a double edged sword as the guy that’s got a couple hours a day every few days doesn’t want to fly around in the horde with nothing to shoot at it. Then you have the side that’s banged. Most either go to gvs or go hit one of the 100s of empty bases.
There’s a few things that will help this but it requires the owner to get involved. Smaller maps that allow all sides to get at each other. Lower the time switcher to encourage moving around. Get rid of the awacs dar (for lil mak). And a lil common courtesy. If you see a red guy fighting three other of your friend you don’t need to interject into the fight move on.
I have to say I agree with the lot of this. Especially the bold.
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Free limited set of options…
Say…F4F, A6M2, Yak7, Spit5, P-40F, 109-F, B25C, He111, TBM, KI-67, Goon, Sherman, 251, M-16.
Just enough to get the addiction going. Then pony up the $$$ for a sub. Just spitballing but maybe make scenarios free too.
$14.99 is becoming a bit harder to justify.
Dear Boomers… please do not lecture me about other things that are the same price blah blah happy meals blah blah. It’s about the value proposition of the $15 not its affordability. These two things are not mutually exclusive.
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It's very odd. I noticed the same thing as Snailman. I'm wondering if some sorta data collection from AI? Only thing I can think.
I have to say I agree with the lot of this. Especially the bold.
I can't associate things like Snailman can,.....but game play has a lot to do with number count. Critical mass for the MA is 100-120. Anything below that isn't going to be played the same as above it. I notices changes once passing 130.
Critical mass - a size, number, or amount large enough to produce a particular result. the critical mass of activity needed for a retail store.
Many of the things complained about are due to numbers below CM. That's the pattern. Numbers will have an - & + effect. This is why I say get the numbers up instead of complaining. By complaining you literally talk people out of playing. It has a very contagious effect....dominoes. It actually works against your own concerns. If you had 200 in the arena, which we saw during MotA week,...the game went the right direction. Not trying to be a jerk,.... just sayin.
There has always been and will always be dweebs, and those who say everything is wrong.
Sell the game like yall did during MotA. Ya gained 60 players above the average. When you quit the replacements died off.
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Yes we had a nice little uptick goin into March...
The good news is that a new special event is here starting this weekend, that Brooke is hosting!
Should be real fun and I hope brings some #s back to the MA. :airplane:
My only issue is large maps not generating battles during off hours which leads to players getting ganged when there is no defense. One regular guy defending a field of 4 190Ds is pretty tough... maps that generate battles in the off hours lead to higher #s throughout the day and Primetime and later into the night.
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Yes we had a nice little uptick goin into March...
The good news is that a new special event is here starting this weekend, that Brooke is hosting!
Should be real fun and I hope brings some #s back to the MA. :airplane:
My only issue is large maps not generating battles during off hours which leads to players getting ganged when there is no defense. One regular guy defending a field of 4 190Ds is pretty tough... maps that generate battles in the off hours lead to higher #s throughout the day and Primetime and later into the night.
Well, The numbers grew because several players went out and sold it outside the bubble. It not going to sell here on the bbs.
Most that play, even the doomsayers, do because it's nostalgic and basically one of a kind. Even with the old graphics, as long as the numbers decent, the fun still exist. Players spend many years here, and many in their teens and like that nostalgic return.
I absolutely repute the $15 thing. Said this every time it comes up. if ya can't afford $15 maybe you shouldn't be investing in any game. Others have their own POV. I don't mean it as an insult. It's kinda common logic. Again, the whining talks people out of it. "This sucks, this sucks, this sucks,.. ya wanna buy it?"
ANYWAY, IMO, numbers is the answer. That's where the work is needed. Ya got results last time.
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Well, The numbers grew because several players went out and sold it outside the bubble. It not going to sell here on the bbs.
Most that play, even the doomsayers, do because it's nostalgic and basically one of a kind. Even with the old graphics, as long as the numbers decent, the fun still exist. Players spend many years here, and many in their teens and like that nostalgic return.
I absolutely repute the $15 thing. Said this every time it comes up. if ya can't afford $15 maybe you shouldn't be investing in any game. Others have their own POV. I don't mean it as an insult. It's kinda common logic. Again, the whining talks people out of it. "This sucks, this sucks, this sucks,.. ya wanna buy it?"
ANYWAY, IMO, numbers is the answer. That's where the work is needed. Ya got results last time.
I will not be advertising like I did last time unfortunately. It did not bear the fruit I had hoped and I got tired of defending the subscription and outdated things.
For me and most people it’s not about affording $15, its about the value you get for and that’s totally subjective to the person.
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I do that, for various reasons. I also read without loggin in. I know When GE visits its usually in a very old thread about AWers. But I’ll take your word for it. I don’t thinks its 100% tho.
Owell, I made a soft point
Of course it's not 100%, but likely something like 98%+.
It's very odd. I noticed the same thing as Snailman. I'm wondering if some sorta data collection from AI? Only thing I can think.
Nah, web crawlers are as old as the web itself.
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$14.99 is becoming a bit harder to justify.
Dear Boomers… please do not lecture me about other things that are the same price blah blah happy meals blah blah. It’s about the value proposition of the $15 not its affordability. These two things are not mutually exclusive.
From the group that spends $10 on a coffee from Starbucks lol
Eagler
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This is the worst I've ever noticed it being at this time of the day. This is what leads to a lot of quiet quitting.
On top of the usual swarming by bish, you have knits hitting rooks too.
May as well just go to one side vs toolsheds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Rc2wJM3/ahss12a.png) (https://postimages.org/)
How many Bish were not in the tower though? That screenshot doesn't tell the whole story. Eh...I get it. That is why I don't play in this time of day. Pretty sure the players that hate this time of day, have already quit? No need to pound the "This Game Is Dead Drum" for this? Give it a few hours and the Bish and/or the Knits will be whining just as much. Just depends on who is in game at what time.
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From the group that spends $10 on a coffee from Starbucks lol
Eagler
The difference is everyone is paying 10 for a coffee, it what is expected. On the other hand 15 a month for a game, even a top tier game is rare. Games are either bought outright or in game purchases.
I still think a limited number of planes free all the time in the MA would help with numbers and the only in game purchase would would be the subscription.
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Well, its not like we’re not getting a product for 15.
I think it focuses on the wrong problem. Many former players don’t even know the game is still running. Even if the game was updated, would anyone outside the bubble know it to come back?
In 4 mos, 1070 views of MotA vid. Where are these people? Well, when you see a vid, snd some get interested again, then come read the bbs complaints and the YKW drama, they prolly say “never mind”.
First thing I did when I got interested was visit the bbs and see if anyone I knew is still here. I saw 5-6 others and said “I’m in”. The bbs MATTERS. If I did it, you can bet others do too.
People complain here thinking other would be players don’t read it. Thats nonsense. Its a complete oxymoron. Like I said, “ this sucks, that sucks, this sucks,…wanna buy it?” This is equivalent of failing to sell water to someone stranded in a desert. This is not selling, its telling people to not bother, then complaining about numbers. These are repeat complaints.
Beside a cpl negative post, the bbs and 200 has calmed down a lot. This is when you sell the game and draw players back in. Ya don’t draw people back into a dumpster fire. Seems like some want to do the work draggin them in while they complain in open air about things that won’t change without an update. Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. Whining thinking they will bully HT into updating. He’s alone, he can only do so much.
Finetime sent a computer to a friend who flys under Finetime and needs a lot of help learning the game. That is going above and beyond.
The answer is players need to remind others outside the bubble the game is still running. Numbers will solve most of these problems. Focus on the answer, not everything but.
Why was my credibility attacked? Because they didn’t want to see it progress, they wanted to be right about it dying so others would play their game. CptTrips running a 127 page DCS sakes thread hurt us, and he knows it, and doesn’t care. Thinking it was ok hurt us. YKW hurt us. Its time to pick up the pieces and return to where we left off, reminding people we are still here. We pulled players in and CptTrips and his dogs sucked our efforts out the back door. Thats what low lives do. Turns out they sold s game here where the AC can no linger be supported nor uodated.
Get back to advertising and stop sniveling.
-a return player
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I can't associate things like Snailman can,.....but game play has a lot to do with number count. Critical mass for the MA is 100-120. Anything below that isn't going to be played the same as above it. I notices changes once passing 130.
Critical mass - a size, number, or amount large enough to produce a particular result. the critical mass of activity needed for a retail store.
Many of the things complained about are due to numbers below CM. That's the pattern. Numbers will have an - & + effect. This is why I say get the numbers up instead of complaining. By complaining you literally talk people out of playing. It has a very contagious effect....dominoes. It actually works against your own concerns. If you had 200 in the arena, which we saw during MotA week,...the game went the right direction. Not trying to be a jerk,.... just sayin.
There has always been and will always be dweebs, and those who say everything is wrong.
Sell the game like yall did during MotA. Ya gained 60 players above the average. When you quit the replacements died off.
+1
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From the group that spends $10 on a coffee from Starbucks lol
Eagler
Way to not read the whole post. What crowd am I in exactly? I’m 51 and don’t pay $10 for a cup of anything.
It’s not about “affordability” it’s about “perceived value” which is subjective to the user. Maybe you might want to go look up those words in your dictionary.
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Way to not read the whole post. What crowd am I in exactly? I’m 51 and don’t pay $10 for a cup of anything.
It’s not about “affordability” it’s about “perceived value” which is subjective to the user.
Exactly, we perceive it as well worth it. 3 hours of dogfights is worth it to me. One scenario is worth it to me. Spending good times with virtual friends doing it together is worth it to me. I can eat the most unhealthy Happy Meal in 7 minutes. We have our own perception too.
I didn't see anyone attacking you for your opinion. And we are not obligated to agree. You do you.
There must be something to it being worth it.
Everyone I the world wants everything to be free. Unfortunately their are operation costs, and if there is no profit, why stay open?
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Way to not read the whole post. What crowd am I in exactly? I’m 51 and don’t pay $10 for a cup of anything.
It’s not about “affordability” it’s about “perceived value” which is subjective to the user. Maybe you might want to go look up those words in your dictionary.
If you have to justify a perceived value for $15 these days you have bigger issues imo
It's not the amount it's more a monthly subscription hangover that turns them off, then the graphics and then the games difficulty
HT should have an annual cost of $70 to lure those types in..less than half the monthly sub cost or the same as a plane or campaign in one of the other ww2 sims..
If my guess is correct most of those won't be around in 3 months and he is way ahead..
Eagler
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The difference is everyone is paying 10 for a coffee, it what is expected. On the other hand 15 a month for a game, even a top tier game is rare. Games are either bought outright or in game purchases.
I still think a limited number of planes free all the time in the MA would help with numbers and the only in game purchase would would be the subscription.
I don’t pay $10 for coffee and wouldn’t anywhere ever. Who’s everyone in this example? Circle K and QT are less than $2 for 24oz. McDonald’s, which actually has pretty dang good coffee I believe is still $2 or less too.
I agree with the limited plane set F2P idea to draw new eyes on the game and see the whole picture without having to commit to anything. The 2-weeks free should be doing that though… The way most F2P games work is by subsidizing through advertising and that’s got to be a challenge about how much before you drive players off. E.g. if any podcast I’m interested has 3 commercials in a row on breaks, I’m done unless I can fast-forward through them, some YT p-casts you’re forced to listen to some woke bs commercials, no fast forward allowed…
Anyhow, I’d not mind seeing advertising in AH, I’m used to it everywhere else. I may be in the minority in that regard however but then HTC becomes reliant on them instead of us. Ugly double edge there.
Lord of the Rings Online currently has it balanced about as perfect as it gets atm. There’s zero advertising and 75% of the game is F2P, but apples to oranges there.
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This is the worst I've ever noticed it being at this time of the day. This is what leads to a lot of quiet quitting.
On top of the usual swarming by bish, you have knits hitting rooks too.
May as well just go to one side vs toolsheds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/3Rc2wJM3/ahss12a.png) (https://postimages.org/)
That’s funny because after The Morning Show, I see the same thing with the nets and three or four squeak on and the whole map gets counter conquered and then by eating it back to normal
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Anyhow, I’d not mind seeing advertising in AH, I’m used to it everywhere else. I may be in the minority in that regard however but then HTC becomes reliant on them instead of us. Ugly double edge there.
Popular games, bands, brands don't need much advertising. How many times do you see a Pepsi or Coke commercial these days? Many Led Zepplin concerts were sold out by word of mouth before any advertisement and the tickets even went on sale.
Aces High has been over-shadowed in the last decade by other modern games and a lot of them. so it's become a connoisseur type game. Advertising on History Channel stopped years ago now. So basically, while you do a search for games you get pages and pages, and what's most popular will be on top. IL-2 and DCS are in their prime and therefore well known.
So it's not advertising in AH, it's advertising outside AH bubble. We all know it's here and stilling running, we don't need it, it's those prospective return players and new players that need to get the advertising.
Last year during MotA we had done quite a bit of sharing info on other forums and message boards, we popped up from 12-120 to 160-200. But after MotA it tended to stop and here we are again. It has to be constant in our case so that there are replacement for numbers who leave the game. New and Return player count needs to be higher then those who move on.
Pretty much the reason I made MotA vid, something to advertise with. But however you get the word around that we're still alive and kicking, the better off we'll be. Since we don't have an advertising firm, or HTC group it's up to us if we sink or swim.
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From the group that spends $10 on a coffee from Starbucks lol
Eagler
That ain't coffee, it's candy. Those folks have no idea what good coffee taste like.
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As one who have left the game: for me, and many with me it was the gameplay, not the game itself that made me leave.
Awacs radar in my case, and the big maps.
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I never had trouble finding enemy gv hidden before the changes.