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Title: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 27, 2024, 09:20:27 PM
HTC,

I find it extremely disrespectful to be getting penalized right now with +20 eny at 9pm cst on a Sunday night :bhead

WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? TURN OFF ENY YOUR KILLING ACTION OMG



Bishops 20 12 0.0

Knights 40 26 20.4

Rooks 28 19 0.0


DUDE :x :x :x :x

We show up and get handicapped for the next 2 hrs?  :aok

Im off to do other things  :bolt: :banana: :salute
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: diaster on October 27, 2024, 09:23:27 PM
again it should onlyu count active players or have an "idle timeout" keep the jeep in the trees flashers from having dinner. I dont know why he doesn't do this, a simple server side fix
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 09:34:30 AM
Current ENY status in the MA at 931am CST

Bishops 20 12 27.2

Knights 6 2 0.0

Rooks 5 4 0.0


ENY has to go. The games population does not support ENY any longer. You are restricting players that show up to play and populate your game at the most critical time in the games history. Insanity....


LET THE MAPS ROLL AND REWARD THOSE WHO POPULATE YOUR GAME BY REMOVING ENY PERMANENTLY.

With all due respect, if we cant get this situation under control by 12/31/2024, December will be my last tour.  :salute

That is plenty of time to address this.


PLEASE!

 

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Lusche on October 28, 2024, 10:18:01 AM
ENY has to go.


This makes stuff much worse. Because that's what basically happened in the old EW arena: ENY still existed, but it was meaningless because of the borked ENY values of some planes there. So you had a side outnumbering their enemies by 6-1 and still flying the best fighter in the arena (Hurricane IIC). Didn't help at all. The outnumbered guys just logged off, and the hoarding side was literally capturing undefended bases against 0 opposition and doing high fives.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: RotBaron on October 28, 2024, 10:52:00 AM
Imo a better solution would be to bring back Mid-War, many of Joker’s & Co used to live there and now are in MA instead.

Almost everybody at the least occasionally has/does some perk farming and Mid-War would let these guys stagger this play out throughout the day a bit more. So there’s three, positives:
1) some would go to MW instead of MA decreasing the morning horde advantage.
2) a quicker way for the perk challenged to earn back T2/262/163’s
3) smaller morning horde = more willing to fight them (stay or login)

In reality, this game thrives off its prime time #s and majority (%? Idk) don’t really give a rats about what happens at other times of the day.

Shrug.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Shane on October 28, 2024, 11:09:44 AM

This makes stuff much worse. Because that's what basically happened in the old EW arena: ENY still existed, but it was meaningless because of the borked ENY values of some planes there. So you had a side outnumbering their enemies by 6-1 and still flying the best fighter in the arena (Hurricane IIC). Didn't help at all. The outnumbered guys just logged off, and the hoarding side was literally capturing undefended bases against 0 opposition and doing high fives.

Not sure how much more clear this point can be made.  It's up to us as players to make changes (lol, I know right?) at this point; the player base is small enough for that. There's no coading to be done, other than tweaking eny values which would kind of make it even worse than now with limited availability.

Perhaps smaller maps in general as some have suggested, plus removing some of the more difficult maps, but I don't see much traction on that happening.

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 11:55:39 AM
If this is how players like yall feel this game is done and ill be out 01/01/24
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Dadtallica on October 28, 2024, 12:04:15 PM
Midwar yes!
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 12:06:50 PM
Midwar yes!
Insanity

The MA is gettnig limitted to EW planes on a regular basis.


THE PROBLEM IS THE GAME IS ENTIRELY UNBALANCED.

DID I MISS SOMETHING CRITICAL WHEN TRYING TO UNDERTAND THIS GAME?

I thought there were 3 modes of play. FFA, Rank, and War.

So the answer to the problem is to continue limiting the logistical capabilities of those who show up and populate the game???

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Lazerr on October 28, 2024, 01:04:55 PM
Insanity

The MA is gettnig limitted to EW planes on a regular basis.


THE PROBLEM IS THE GAME IS ENTIRELY UNBALANCED.

DID I MISS SOMETHING CRITICAL WHEN TRYING TO UNDERTAND THIS GAME?

I thought there were 3 modes of play. FFA, Rank, and War.

So the answer to the problem is to continue limiting the logistical capabilities of those who show up and populate the game???
Don't fly on the side with numbers?
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 01:26:03 PM
Don't fly on the side with numbers?
squad is Knight? It was squad night??

This is why we have the problems we do. There is a serious gap in understanding how the war game is in its death throws and we continue to get nerfed as a community when we show up but others dont...

THE LAST TIME I SWITCHED AND DID THIS I WAS TREATED AS A TRAITOR BY TEAMATES...

If this conversation is any indication why eny has remained i might as well start packing now  :rofl
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Lusche on October 28, 2024, 02:06:01 PM
THE PROBLEM IS THE GAME IS ENTIRELY UNBALANCED

And your solution is to unbalance it even more?
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: waystin2 on October 28, 2024, 02:39:15 PM
HTC,

I find it extremely disrespectful to be getting penalized right now with +20 eny at 9pm cst on a Sunday night :bhead

WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? TURN OFF ENY YOUR KILLING ACTION OMG



Bishops 20 12 0.0

Knights 40 26 20.4

Rooks 28 19 0.0


DUDE :x :x :x :x

We show up and get handicapped for the next 2 hrs?  :aok

Im off to do other things  :bolt: :banana: :salute
Fly some JU-88's.  Show me yo bombing skill!  :aok
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Dadtallica on October 28, 2024, 02:58:46 PM
I just want midway back to get rid of the silly jet fighters. I don’t care about eny.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Animl-AW on October 28, 2024, 03:33:17 PM
To be honest, I rarely notice things complained about until I see them on bbs. I rarely can't fly a plane I want, but I can always jump in a 190A5.

I will say this. Threatening to leave unless a setting is made is not the route to get the setting changed. In fact it might work against it in spite.

DATA and proof is a better way. HT runs data collections, I'm sure he sees more than us on charts.

I think the setting has a reasoning to justify.

Never seen a player 100% about a game.
To a programmer, no one likes anything they do.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Lazerr on October 28, 2024, 04:09:29 PM
squad is Knight? It was squad night??

This is why we have the problems we do. There is a serious gap in understanding how the war game is in its death throws and we continue to get nerfed as a community when we show up but others dont...

THE LAST TIME I SWITCHED AND DID THIS I WAS TREATED AS A TRAITOR BY TEAMATES...

If this conversation is any indication why eny has remained i might as well start packing now  :rofl

I would assume this happens every squad night then, the trends seem pretty consistent.

Maybe time to relocate?  Eliminating ENY just punishes the team fighting with low numbers... how many advantages do you think a hoarde should have?
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: The Fugitive on October 28, 2024, 05:25:19 PM
HTC,

I find it extremely disrespectful to be getting penalized right now with +20 eny at 9pm cst on a Sunday night :bhead

WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? TURN OFF ENY YOUR KILLING ACTION OMG



Bishops 20 12 0.0

Knights 40 26 20.4

Rooks 28 19 0.0


DUDE :x :x :x :x

We show up and get handicapped for the next 2 hrs?  :aok

Im off to do other things  :bolt: :banana: :salute

So you had a 2 to 1 numbers advantage against either team..... let me guess, you guys all worked one front instead of splitting your force and going 1 to 1 in numbers on both fronts front right? This is one of those instances where the players could have made a differance. I know Bish have no trouble rolling bases with less than a dozen guys and a 27 ENY.

And what about those night were the Knights are getting hit from both sides and it might as well be 2 or 3 to 1 yet the Bish and Rooks dont have ENY because they dont have extra numbers, its lots of fun playing the game that way too right?

Winning the war is about defeating the enemy countries you are fighting against. This is a game and being such HTC wants to try to make it even and fair, ENY tries to do that. Removing ENY would mean that which ever team got more players they would roll bases and cause the other teams to just log off. Not fun or fair.

As for opening MidWar.......LOL!!! sure lets make it smaller and less numbers in the arenas than we have now!



As for a fix.... Id redo the ENY numbers there seems to be some imbalances.... YAK <cough cough> Id also tweak the low ENY side numbers so if the team with the lower numbers is flying a pony they still get a better percentage of perk points for killing stuff with it.

ENY is a necessary evil, but it does need a bit of tweaking.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 05:33:12 PM
Fly some JU-88's.  Show me yo bombing skill!  :aok
There you go....

Lets fly for 10 minutes doing nothing just to do half the work of 20 ENY USA bombers all just to get easily shot down by LW planes  :aok
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 05:34:06 PM
And your solution is to unbalance it even more?

What is unbalanced about what I purposed?

ENY is an action killer?

What am I missing here?

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: mERv on October 28, 2024, 05:40:31 PM
So you had a 2 to 1 numbers advantage against either team..... let me guess, you guys all worked one front instead of splitting your force and going 1 to 1 in numbers on both fronts front right? This is one of those instances where the players could have made a differance. I know Bish have no trouble rolling bases with less than a dozen guys and a 27 ENY.

And what about those night were the Knights are getting hit from both sides and it might as well be 2 or 3 to 1 yet the Bish and Rooks dont have ENY because they dont have extra numbers, its lots of fun playing the game that way too right?

Winning the war is about defeating the enemy countries you are fighting against. This is a game and being such HTC wants to try to make it even and fair, ENY tries to do that. Removing ENY would mean that which ever team got more players they would roll bases and cause the other teams to just log off. Not fun or fair.

As for opening MidWar.......LOL!!! sure lets make it smaller and less numbers in the arenas than we have now!



As for a fix.... Id redo the ENY numbers there seems to be some imbalances.... YAK <cough cough> Id also tweak the low ENY side numbers so if the team with the lower numbers is flying a pony they still get a better percentage of perk points for killing stuff with it.

ENY is a necessary evil, but it does need a bit of tweaking.


We worked both fronts....

It was squad night and we were limited to +20 eny ?

Tell you what the writing is on the wall here loud and clear :x

My permeant departure is now certain. I understand why there has been no changes now. Enjoy what remains. This community is -1 another loyal player. Could not be more disgusted and excited at the same time.

Keep it up Aces High. First Skyyr and now me :rock Your on a roll :x

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Lazerr on October 28, 2024, 06:41:23 PM


We worked both fronts....

It was squad night and we were limited to +20 eny ?

Tell you what the writing is on the wall here loud and clear :x

My permeant departure is now certain. I understand why there has been no changes now. Enjoy what remains. This community is -1 another loyal player. Could not be more disgusted and excited at the same time.

Keep it up Aces High. First Skyyr and now me :rock Your on a roll :x

Don't think skyyr got a png for whining about ENY...
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: GOODBYE on October 28, 2024, 07:04:45 PM
Don't think skyyr got a png for whining about ENY...

 :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: yipi on October 28, 2024, 08:30:05 PM
I dont fly much anymore because of ENY. When its high I just go watch Family Guy. The Night time darknes pisses me off too lol and I log
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: LilMak on October 28, 2024, 11:01:56 PM
Friggin wusses. There are a bunch of competitive planes. Learn how to fly them. You might just learn something.

Still…ENY should probably just be suspended when the highest number team has about 25 players logged on.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: icepac on October 29, 2024, 08:27:28 AM
Pansies! who won’t fly without a super rare late war cannon speed monster.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Animl-AW on October 29, 2024, 09:02:09 AM
I don’t get some of these issues.
They have been in place a very long time, some before the peak. Some of the request can actually make things worse.

These threads alone hurt the replacement numbers, while complaining about numbers.

We keep saying it and a few keep doing it.

“I don’t like something so I’ll drag the game down for everyone”.

Just like political post, don’t do it, then they can’t stop doing it.

I think they are just excuses to justify other interest in their life.

These posts affect our numbers more than the subject.

We keep repeating posts knowing its not going to change has been established.

Some of these settings have a valid reason, even if not perfect. People snivel, until they compare it to other games. Aside from dated graphics, its still a better game play. Another popular game only allows you to fly AC on a specific side. Another barely has any attention to WWII ac. Those choices are worse than ENY. Know any other sim with MP MA?

Pick your poison wisely.

Most times I login its night, I don’t do well at night, I don’t threaten to leave the game, I just wait for light. Sheesh people. Life is as hard as you make it.

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 29, 2024, 09:57:28 AM
For those that have a problem with the night time, just change the gamma setting. When night time hits, I up the gamma to anywhere from 2.1 to 2.5. its not perfect, but I tank alot and visually identifying targets is essential as well, and I have to contend with trees and brush. When the sun comes up, I turn it back down.

It would be nice if we had a Dot Command for gamma settings, but it's not hard to do. BTW, night time only last for about 18 minutes of each hour. :rock
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Animl-AW on October 29, 2024, 10:16:35 AM
For those that have a problem with the night time, just change the gamma setting. When night time hits, I up the gamma to anywhere from 2.1 to 2.5. its not perfect, but I tank alot and visually identifying targets is essential as well, and I have to contend with trees and brush. When the sun comes up, I turn it back down.

It would be nice if we had a Dot Command for gamma settings, but it's not hard to do. BTW, night time only last for about 18 minutes of each hour. :rock

I plead guilty in laziness. I always have something to tend to while I wait. But gama slips my mind.

But ya, once in a while I need to think.

Thanks for reminder.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: yipi on October 29, 2024, 04:07:38 PM
Ok lets keep ENY but can their be a way to adjust Gamma when using VR so I can see. Gamma setting in the game doesn't work so thinking that causes new/old players from flying. Looks cool but I don't like it
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Chris79 on October 29, 2024, 04:54:22 PM
So you had a 2 to 1 numbers advantage against either team..... let me guess, you guys all worked one front instead of splitting your force and going 1 to 1 in numbers on both fronts front right? This is one of those instances where the players could have made a differance. I know Bish have no trouble rolling bases with less than a dozen guys and a 27 ENY.

And what about those night were the Knights are getting hit from both sides and it might as well be 2 or 3 to 1 yet the Bish and Rooks dont have ENY because they dont have extra numbers, its lots of fun playing the game that way too right?

Winning the war is about defeating the enemy countries you are fighting against. This is a game and being such HTC wants to try to make it even and fair, ENY tries to do that. Removing ENY would mean that which ever team got more players they would roll bases and cause the other teams to just log off. Not fun or fair.

As for opening MidWar.......LOL!!! sure lets make it smaller and less numbers in the arenas than we have now!



As for a fix.... Id redo the ENY numbers there seems to be some imbalances.... YAK <cough cough> Id also tweak the low ENY side numbers so if the team with the lower numbers is flying a pony they still get a better percentage of perk points for killing stuff with it.

ENY is a necessary evil, but it does need a bit of tweaking.

I agree with the Yak3. I also think B24s and 17’s should have an eny of 10-15 and the TU2 could be lower as well.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: RELIC on October 29, 2024, 05:39:13 PM
How "disrespectful" is it to post yet ANOTHER whine about eny and threaten to leave the game if you don't get your way?
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: guncrasher on October 29, 2024, 09:04:15 PM
well he did make lots of players quit a few years ago.


semp
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: DFATITAN on October 30, 2024, 07:12:23 AM
I'm sure not there is a good answer, especially with squads that are dedicated to one country/side (like us, DFA - 20+ years as BISH), or players that want to fly with their countrymates, or time zones, etc.   IMO, the only truly effective side-balancing solution would be assignment to a country when you first log in, ensuring the numbers were equal.  But then that ruins the game for a lot of folks because they are here for their squad ops and their country community.  ENY is probably the best answer, but I think it has to be constantly reviewed/tweaked, realizing no matter what you do, someone is going to be put at a disadvantage. 

I usually don't have a lot of issues with ENY because I fly planes like the Mossie/KI-61 or others, so I can almost always get my preferred plane up.  I have to climb higher (especially for you astronaut winged Rooks  :rofl) and TRY to fly smarter (mostly fail), but those are my choices.  I do understand why everyone gets frustrated, especially when the plane list is almost completely zero'd out with almost no options, particularly with the bombers and vehicles. 

Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: nopoop on October 30, 2024, 01:05:52 PM
Fly a Brewster. Problem solved.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: dbarry on October 30, 2024, 02:53:31 PM
I dont mind high ENY,  just gets me to try new planes
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: GOODBYE on October 30, 2024, 06:52:07 PM
Fly a Brewster. Problem solved.
Or a jug  :)
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Oldman731 on October 30, 2024, 11:16:01 PM
I dont mind high ENY,  just gets me to try new planes


Very nice attitude!  AH has so many planes, it's a shame people don't use more of them.

- oldman
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Devil 505 on October 30, 2024, 11:45:47 PM
ENY got you down? Grab a G-2.  :airplane:

(https://i.postimg.cc/CxBz9kq0/Schilling-New-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXQfzk5p)
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: JimmyD3 on October 31, 2024, 11:27:41 AM
I've been using the G-14 lately, while I am terrible in a fighter, I have been having some luck against bombers with it. :x
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Animl-AW on October 31, 2024, 09:05:03 PM
No offense intended

But demanding settings changes through threats, even if they are carried out, is the wrong approach.
To give in once means it ignites in the future the epidemic to giving in 1000 times. Today ENY, tomorrow Radar, the next day map settings or night, the list grows to infinite.

Every game programmer has heard it 10,000 times "Change this, or else".  The best way to not get it is to demand it. It may have been on the list of things to change, but once it's threatened off the list it goes, it sometimes forces it not to happen.

Its a shame some choose this path, better yet post it further putting a negative spotlight on the game, punishing all of us.

I can't go along with this concept. No small group should dictate the game to please them. No one is that special.

Problem is like McDs burger, the patty sucks, but will put lettuce on it and make it better, the patty sucks, put tomatoes on it too, the patty sucks, lettuce, tomato and onions should do it, the patty sucks. Anything but change the patty.

Anything but work on getting numbers up. Most of these settings fail (more noticeable) below critical mass 100-120. That same energy could have been directed in a positive way to advertise the game is still running. Instead they go negative and shrink numbers as if it did us a big favor.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: molybdenum on November 01, 2024, 09:50:14 PM
No offense intended

But demanding settings changes through threats, even if they are carried out, is the wrong approach.

Its a shame some choose this path, better yet post it further putting a negative spotlight on the game, punishing all of us.

I can't go along with this concept. No small group should dictate the game to please them. No one is that special.


But Finetime thinks he's that special. "OMG, on this rare occasion I can't use the quirks in the code I discovered to entrance and amaze my entourage! I must fly lesser planes in which I have no skill. This cannot continue! I am FINETIME!" Etc.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: Gman on November 01, 2024, 10:22:57 PM
ENY got you down? Grab a G-2.  :airplane:

(https://i.postimg.cc/CxBz9kq0/Schilling-New-1.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xXQfzk5p)

Such a pretty one too!
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: AKIron on November 01, 2024, 10:43:58 PM
The 109 was engineering artistry.
Title: Re: Disrespectful
Post by: diaster on November 10, 2024, 12:00:48 PM
HTC,

I find it extremely disrespectful to be getting penalized right now with +20 eny at 9pm cst on a Sunday night :bhead

WHAT ARE YOU DOING???? TURN OFF ENY YOUR KILLING ACTION OMG



Bishops 20 12 0.0

Knights 40 26 20.4

Rooks 28 19 0.0


DUDE :x :x :x :x

We show up and get handicapped for the next 2 hrs?  :aok

Im off to do other things  :bolt: :banana: :salute
just stop counting the tower campers would be a big help