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Title: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Gooss on November 06, 2024, 01:46:50 PM
Friends,

What is your opinion of Spectrum cable vs Frontier FiberOptics?

My block of a suburb of LA was the last to get Frontier FiberOptics. I was waiting so long for FIOS that Frontier changed the branding.  I have a sample of two friends who had nothing but problems with FIOS and I am disinclined to consider switching to Frontier.  My Spectrum 1 Gig is working fine. 

If it's not broken, why fix it? 

If all y'all think Frontier is vastly superior, I'll reconsider.

Thanks for your assistance.

Gooss

Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Shuffler on November 06, 2024, 09:27:21 PM
Here in Texas, Frontier is known as the worst fiber company there is.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: SIK1 on November 07, 2024, 08:46:11 AM
I have Spectrum. It's rock solid. I almost never have issues with it, unless the zombie horde tries steeling the wire from the junction boxes. Then it's usually down for the most part of the day. Not really Spectrum's fault.

 :salute
Sik
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: nopoop on November 07, 2024, 09:18:24 AM
Cut the cord. Sling, netflix
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Spikes on November 07, 2024, 10:15:13 AM
Cut the cord. Sling, netflix
He still needs internet.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: AKIron on November 07, 2024, 10:36:49 AM
Here in Texas, Frontier is known as the worst fiber company there is.

I switched from Sparklight to Frontier a while back. Wife complained about the streaming music dropping periodically. Found I was dropping pings to the internal interface of the Sagemcom router they provided. They sent me another. Same thing. Bought my own other brand and no more problems.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Shuffler on November 07, 2024, 01:15:26 PM
I switched from Sparklight to Frontier a while back. Wife complained about the streaming music dropping periodically. Found I was dropping pings to the internal interface of the Sagemcom router they provided. They sent me another. Same thing. Bought my own other brand and no more problems.
I actually have Xfinity. EZEE Fiber is installing in our area now. I presigned with them. As soon as they go hot, my home will be on fiber.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: AKIron on November 07, 2024, 01:33:56 PM
I have a fiber to coax convertor in the garage. Then a cable modem in the house connected to what was the Sagemcom router. This was all Frontier installed/supplied. I never would have suspected the Sagemcom itself were it not for all the other equipment. When more than one computer and ethernet cable connected directly drops pings to the internal interface it can only be that device. And it was.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ts6fQwfm/fiber.png) (https://postimg.cc/ts6fQwfm)
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: AKIron on November 07, 2024, 01:38:20 PM
There's little point in us having 2Gbps up/dn since it's just the two us. Don't have any 2Gbps switches or adapters. It was the same price we were paying Sparklight for half that though so I said why not.

I already had a couple of these except they had only a 1 Gbps port so I added this one. Works great. No more intermittent loss.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0B8BBRVVV/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 07, 2024, 02:44:22 PM
They recently installed Fiber and I just ordered At&t fiber and having installed next week. Its almost half the price of what I'm paying xfinity for 500gps
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Randy1 on November 07, 2024, 03:11:00 PM
I just switched back from fiber to Cable here in GA after the hurricane tour up the fiber, pole mounted network. 

Interesting the cable company recently dropped all TV stuff.  It is now only internet.

Both fiber and cable offer 1 gig service.  Both are fast to the local network hub.  The real question though is routing of the signal leaving the local network.  That can be a crap shoot. 

Cable seems to be a bit more stable, but fiber is a few ms faster to AH than cable.

I know this is not LA stuff but the idea here is in terms of technology, cable and fiber are pretty close in speed.  How dependable the company is really the question. 
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Shuffler on November 07, 2024, 03:50:54 PM
I just switched back from fiber to Cable here in GA after the hurricane tour up the fiber, pole mounted network. 

Interesting the cable company recently dropped all TV stuff.  It is now only internet.

Both fiber and cable offer 1 gig service.  Both are fast to the local network hub.  The real question though is routing of the signal leaving the local network.  That can be a crap shoot. 

Cable seems to be a bit more stable, but fiber is a few ms faster to AH than cable.

I know this is not LA stuff but the idea here is in terms of technology, cable and fiber are pretty close in speed.  How dependable the company is really the question.

With cable, your upload will be much slower. Not necessarily bad, but slower. With fiber, your upload and download are usually about the same.

EZEE offers 1 gig, 2 gig, 5 gig, and 8 gig. From $69 to $119.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 07, 2024, 04:18:23 PM
We just switched from Spectrum to Frontier, saved  up $60.00 a month with faster download and upload. So far very happy with it.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: icepac on November 14, 2024, 06:58:32 AM
All the cable companies are headed to data only meaning you watch your TV by streaming to a Xumo, Roku, firestick, or sling.   

When the other foot drops, you will likely be required to pay for "tv service" so your bills will end up what they were soon enough.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Eagler on November 14, 2024, 07:08:11 AM
Heard frontier service is horrible

500gb service from spectrum .. no complaints

Dropped their cell service as we had to go consumer cellular for service in country around the in laws..

Dropped their video services and went youtube tv...saving $$$ with both of those moves

Eagler
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: AKIron on November 14, 2024, 10:56:21 AM
Quality of service will vary from location to location with any provider and you're going to hear complaints about all of them. If you have a choice of providers read reviews from your local area.

"next door" is probably is a good source for that. Keep in mind that some people may have problems with their computers/wireless that have nothing to do with the quality of service provided.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: hitech on November 14, 2024, 12:45:57 PM
500gb service from spectrum .. no complaints

You mean 500mb?


You have been playing threw frontier for the last 9 years, when they purchased it from verizon. Now Verizon just purchased it back in the last few months.

HiTech
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Eagler on November 14, 2024, 01:20:22 PM
You mean 500mb?


You have been playing threw frontier for the last 9 years, when they purchased it from verizon. Now Verizon just purchased it back in the last few months.

HiTech

Yes 500 mb..

If it's gone back to Verizon it might have gotten better..original FIOS was stiff competition to our coaxial systems before the days of fiber nodes..

Once they sold out to frontier and got out of video only offering yttv the customers stated coming back with customer service complaints of them

Eagler
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Randy1 on November 14, 2024, 01:26:41 PM
With cable, your upload will be much slower. Not necessarily bad, but slower. With fiber, your upload and download are usually about the same.

EZEE offers 1 gig, 2 gig, 5 gig, and 8 gig. From $69 to $119.

Oddly enough, uploads on fiber were not as fast as the cable. In the beginning conexon was posting very fast uploads but that changed not long after they bult our rural network.  They blame it on problems in atlanta.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 14, 2024, 01:46:58 PM
Getting my fiber installed right now  :banana:

Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Vulcan on November 14, 2024, 02:10:28 PM
With cable, your upload will be much slower. Not necessarily bad, but slower. With fiber, your upload and download are usually about the same.

Cable typically used to be contested media. ie you shared the bandwidth to your local gateway/pop with your neighbours, whereas fibre is contested to your gateway/pop.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: HL117 on November 14, 2024, 04:25:19 PM
I actually have Xfinity. EZEE Fiber is installing in our area now. I presigned with them. As soon as they go hot, my home will be on fiber.


EZEE is installing in our neighborhood currently as well, if they run it like they are managing the install I will wait for the testers ( my neighbors ) to try it out first, since they have hit a water line on just about every street for the past two weeks.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: AKIron on November 14, 2024, 09:30:53 PM
Did I mention I went through two Sagemcom routers (with a Frontier brand) that were periodically stopping my pings to the internal interface? Yeah, I mentioned that. I can guess why if that was by design but it seems more likely it is not intentional. Either way since I replaced the router with my own device I haven't lost a single ping in many days.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Eagler on November 15, 2024, 06:35:28 AM
Always use my own router..

Port forwarding for ip cameras require it..

Eagler
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: icepac on November 15, 2024, 04:21:47 PM
Broadcomm chipsets > puma chipsets.
Title: Re: Spectrum Cable vs Frontier FiberOptic Internet Service?
Post by: Shuffler on November 15, 2024, 04:32:42 PM

EZEE is installing in our neighborhood currently as well, if they run it like they are managing the install I will wait for the testers ( my neighbors ) to try it out first, since they have hit a water line on just about every street for the past two weeks.

They had hit waterlines twice in our neighborhood. The water company marked the lines..... however, they did not mark them correctly. It was not the fiber company's fault here.