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Title: Original Aces High
Post by: Trev95 on November 21, 2024, 09:49:06 PM
Hello guys!

I am looking for the installer for the OG AH.  I know its pretty long shot but dose anyone happen to have the old installer floating around?  I thought id ask this wonderful and supper friendly community for help before bothering Hitech.

I hope you are all doing well I should be back in the air before to long.

<S>FBTrev95/Riftval
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: The Fugitive on November 21, 2024, 10:36:08 PM
Just curious why you would want a copy of AH1

I have a couple of versions of AH2 in the "misc" section of my help page, link in signature.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: icepac on November 23, 2024, 05:00:14 AM
Head to head?
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: The Fugitive on November 23, 2024, 10:07:34 AM
Head to head?

I think its possible with the version of AH2 I have on the site, with a link to a guy who had done it.

However, using AH3 you can log in and use the free arenas to head to head anyone from any where with less hassle to set it up.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 23, 2024, 11:17:41 AM
Would love to see Smog8 map remade in AH3. That was an awesome for team desth match in H2H.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Brooke on November 23, 2024, 03:14:26 PM
You guys remember the beta version before it was called "Aces High" back when HiTech was first working on it?

What was it called back then?

Or am I misremembering?
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Animl-AW on November 24, 2024, 06:26:10 AM
You guys remember the beta version before it was called "Aces High" back when HiTech was first working on it?

What was it called back then?

Or am I misremembering?

Confirmed Kill?
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Kini on November 24, 2024, 08:23:40 AM
Confirmed Kill?

Confirmed Kill became Warbirds. Then IEntertainment entered the picture.  May be remembering the sequence wrong but I remember iEn coming in and the split of the dev team to HTC Creations and Cornered Rat Software.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Leisure on November 24, 2024, 10:18:50 AM
You guys remember the beta version before it was called "Aces High" back when HiTech was first working on it?

What was it called back then?

Or am I misremembering?

I think it was always Aces High.

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/articles/simhistory/
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: AAIK on November 24, 2024, 11:58:26 AM
According to the history I know it was always called "Aces High". Far as I can tell HT cooked it up while he was at IEN and he showed it to them as the next gen of Warbirds but they didn't like it and he went on his own to produce it.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: qweqwe27th on November 24, 2024, 01:59:08 PM
Some early versions might still be on my old PCs, I'll look upcoming holidays... not even sure if HDDs on them are alive though.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: icepac on November 25, 2024, 01:49:15 AM

It was tough finding cons in Targetware.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Brooke on November 25, 2024, 02:00:27 PM
Confirmed Kill?

Confirmed Kill became Warbirds. Then IEntertainment entered the picture.  May be remembering the sequence wrong but I remember iEn coming in and the split of the dev team to HTC Creations and Cornered Rat Software.

Yep, it was the beta version of Confirmed Kill.  That's what I was thinking of.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Animl-AW on November 25, 2024, 03:08:56 PM
Confirmed Kill became Warbirds. Then IEntertainment entered the picture.  May be remembering the sequence wrong but I remember iEn coming in and the split of the dev team to HTC Creations and Cornered Rat Software.

I think you may be right.
HT could def clear that up.

I had my hands full heading to EA.com w/ AW, so I may not have been paying too much attention to anything outside of that disaster. kinda sorta same time era.

Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Animl-AW on November 25, 2024, 03:10:07 PM
Pretty sure I have a copy of AH1 somewhere here. I'll have plenty of time to look.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: horble on November 25, 2024, 03:58:10 PM
Tried the internet wayback machine to find an earlier version but the earliest I could download was the last version of AH2
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: BSB on November 27, 2024, 07:58:51 PM
It was tough finding cons in Targetware.
Wow, someone else remembers Targetware besides me?  I was beginning to think I was the only one who flew Targetware and Aces High.   :salute Icepac, fellow Targetware flyer.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: horble on November 27, 2024, 10:06:07 PM
Wow, someone else remembers Targetware besides me?  I was beginning to think I was the only one who flew Targetware and Aces High.   :salute Icepac, fellow Targetware flyer.

The Richtofen's Skies server was hosted from my dad's computer shop.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Mongoose on November 28, 2024, 12:01:27 AM
History lesson.  This is from a post made by Fugitive a few years ago.

https://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,403424.0.html

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HiTech post this once......

1. I played Air Warrior (was a +100 hrs a month junky)
2. I started playing with flight model physics and graphic programing (HTSIM).
3. I created in Confirmed Kill at night in 94 early 95. Had 2 partners in the business Killer (John  McQueen) and Gunjam (Robert Salinas)
4. We went live with Confirmed kill in May 95.
5. August 95 renamed CK to Warbirds.
6 3 years later we merged with iMagic (I.E. Wild Bill) and I lost control of WB.
7. By late 98 Bill was totally messing up the long term viability of the old company for many reasons (stock went from $14 to less then 1 cent).
8. I left and began work at home on AH.
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Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: mechanic on November 28, 2024, 03:47:01 AM
Wow, someone else remembers Targetware besides me?  I was beginning to think I was the only one who flew Targetware and Aces High.   :salute Icepac, fellow Targetware flyer.


Remember it well, never really got it to work properly. Don't think I ever managed to get multiplayer to function
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: BSB on November 28, 2024, 04:56:43 PM
The Richtofen's Skies server was hosted from my dad's computer shop.

How Cool! You must have been very involved in Targetware horble.  Any info on what happened to Targetware would be welcome. 

Salute to you Targetware Flyers.  <S> horble, mechanic..  I never flew in Richthofen’s skies, although I knew it existed.  I flew mostly Targetware Korea.  Jets that still used guns and were closely matched.  I liked fights between the F86 and Mig15.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: mechanic on November 28, 2024, 05:34:32 PM
S! BSB

I want to say that the one I tried to play was called Target Rabaul. I was only 17 or so at the time. Found Aces High 1 pretty soon after and never looked back
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: horble on November 28, 2024, 05:55:37 PM
How Cool! You must have been very involved in Targetware horble.  Any info on what happened to Targetware would be welcome. 

Salute to you Targetware Flyers.  <S> horble, mechanic..  I never flew in Richthofen’s skies, although I knew it existed.  I flew mostly Targetware Korea.  Jets that still used guns and were closely matched.  I liked fights between the F86 and Mig15.

Mostly Richtofen’s Skies was put together by a bunch of old Dawn of Aces players, I’ve forgotten most of the names by now but I believe JoGunn took over being in charge from Vlasov. I was about 13 at the time and was the squeakiest squeaker to ever live lol but I did a very little bit of 3d modelling for it, I think the only thing I finished was a model for observation balloons to have over the front. I had a couple of planes I was working on but then a girl in my class came to school wearing white pants and I kind of lost track of cartoon airplanes for a few years..

I don't remember why Targetware fizzled out, I think the guy coding the engine may have fallen ill or even passed away.  I *think* his handle was 'sick' and the only other names that are coming back to me right now that were involved were yak and vadr.

Might have a poke around in the wayback machine and see if I can find anything else.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: qweqwe27th on November 29, 2024, 08:15:29 PM
I don't remember why Targetware fizzled out, I think the guy coding the engine may have fallen ill or even passed away.  I *think* his handle was 'sick' and the only other names that are coming back to me right now that were involved were yak and vadr.

Yes, that's the coder sick who had developed Roger Wilco in the 90s. Sick suffered serious life issues and had to give up working on the Targetware. (your memory might be associated with the incident where he was assaulted at a metro station and didn't recover well for a while in the mid-2000s) Target Rabaul Dev team(yak, baders, peril) tried to revive the project a few occasions but little could be done for losing the wiz core coder.

rye, yt, BLOWHARD, popgirl, LoAmmo, spelchk, zabatt, olddog, kevdog, kiwi, archi, blackflie, fuzzy, silverdolly, wastel, raffel, rydog, oscoog, rebel, hawk, whwk, audi, aanvilsghost, lonewlf, tora, absinthe, sbubba, akitoshi, ryu, maestro, sakai, roppa, tiktok, stiglr, timbob, asmech, cabby, renard, columbo, lunchod, vonsho...
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: Eagler on November 30, 2024, 06:54:48 AM
Battlehawks 1942, SWOTL, Fighter Ace and then Aces High..

Thank goodness there was an article in PC Gamer about it in 2000 I think or I might have missed it

Eagler
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: horble on November 30, 2024, 08:27:15 AM
Yes, that's the coder sick who had developed Roger Wilco in the 90s. Sick suffered serious life issues and had to give up working on the Targetware. (your memory might be associated with the incident where he was assaulted at a metro station and didn't recover well for a while in the mid-2000s) Target Rabaul Dev team(yak, baders, peril) tried to revive the project a few occasions but little could be done for losing the wiz core coder.

rye, yt, BLOWHARD, popgirl, LoAmmo, spelchk, zabatt, olddog, kevdog, kiwi, archi, blackflie, fuzzy, silverdolly, wastel, raffel, rydog, oscoog, rebel, hawk, whwk, audi, aanvilsghost, lonewlf, tora, absinthe, sbubba, akitoshi, ryu, maestro, sakai, roppa, tiktok, stiglr, timbob, asmech, cabby, renard, columbo, lunchod, vonsho...

Thanks, I knew there was a reason development stopped but it had escaped me. I remember a lot of those names now that I see them again.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: BSB on December 01, 2024, 12:38:39 AM
Thank you Horble and qweqwe27th for the information on Targetware.  Now I remember about the coder getting sick.  Qweqwe27th of all the names you listed stiglr stood out.  If my memory is correct he was a big evangelist for Targetware on several flight sim forums.

<S> Mechanic!  Yes Target Rabaul was the WWII Targetware mod.  Target Korea the Korean War mod and Richthofen’s sky’s the WWI mod.  I flew in Target Korea and Targetware Rabaul.  Mostly Korea,  I liked the jet matchup. 

Now I understand the group that brought us il2 is coming out with a Korean War sim sometime next year.  I am really looking forward to that.
Title: Re: Original Aces High
Post by: qweqwe27th on December 01, 2024, 04:01:22 PM
Thank you Horble and qweqwe27th for the information on Targetware.  Now I remember about the coder getting sick.  Qweqwe27th of all the names you listed stiglr stood out.  If my memory is correct he was a big evangelist for Targetware on several flight sim forums.

Stiglr sure loved the Targetware, had strong opinions on all the flight-sims and actively expressed them everywhere. He has played AH and posted some on this forum too IIRC. There was Target Corregidor project(more focused on early war than Target Rabaul, using planes such as Ki-27, P-35) which he led on Targetwar but it never came out of alpha stage.