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Title: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 26, 2024, 07:30:10 AM
Wednesday night after the election around 7:45pm the wife and I saw lights in the sky above Lake Pierce FL from the fishing pier at Oak Hammock Campground that we couldn't explain

It was a series of 4 red lights that glowed individually then faded out in a horizontal row almost .. it happened twice about a minute apart, the wife caught the second occurrence on her phone

Weather was nasty as rain/front was in the area

My father in law is a retired seabee/Vietnam vet stated he thought it might be jet afterburners moving away from us after viewing the clip

That makes the most sense I guess, two groups of 4 jets moving out fast

Not sure I can post the film from her phone it's over 50mb

Does anyone know of video showing the exhaust glow of a jet going into afterburner at night?

I mean they would have had to be moving directly away from us to present us with the view we had

Or we saw something else...cue outer limits music..  :noid

Eagler

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 26, 2024, 07:49:16 AM
Can't say much without film, need to know distance of lights, any sound? Altitude? Ect.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 26, 2024, 07:53:43 AM
No sound, a waya away if they were jets..

We were looking up at about a 60 degree angle but couldn't tell the distance but they looked far away

It's the most unexplained sighting either of us have ever seen

Where can I post a 50mb video?

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on November 26, 2024, 08:00:48 AM

How close are you to Pine Castle bombing range?
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Post by: 100Coogn on November 26, 2024, 08:02:44 AM
No sound, a waya away if they were jets..

We were looking up at about a 60 degree angle but couldn't tell the distance but they looked far away

It's the most unexplained sighting either of us have ever seen

Where can I post a 50mb video?

Eagler
You could post it on Youtube, then send the link here.

Coogan
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on November 26, 2024, 08:11:52 AM

Noticing a lot of V22s flying around at night.   

If they have the prop tip lights on, it will make two circles that look like what you describe from a distance.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 26, 2024, 08:59:32 AM
How close are you to Pine Castle bombing range?

That's a ways north of where we were and they would have been heading south for us to view their exhaust..

Avon Park might have been their target as it would have been south of us..

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 26, 2024, 09:08:57 AM
You could post it on Youtube, then send the link here.

Coogan

[ Invalid YouTube link ]

I was able to get it up on yt..what does it look like to you ?

When I zoom in the circles sorta look like exhaust or the video is just distorting..

Thanks!

Hmm here is the link..
https://youtube.com/shorts/VTLBwE6xQqU?si=aOtZ-AG1H6L2PFWC

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: 100Coogn on November 26, 2024, 09:20:17 AM
I suppose they could be afterburners.  They all seem to stay on for about the same duration, until going dark.
Pretty cool, whatever they are.

Coogan
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on November 26, 2024, 10:30:47 AM
I would have suggested flares (countermeasures) but they are usually longer lived than those.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: LilMak on November 26, 2024, 08:33:57 PM
I would have suggested flares (countermeasures) but they are usually longer lived than those.
Flares usually look more like they’re falling too. The video doesn’t convey any motion that suggests they’re falling. The lights appear static with little motion relative to the camera. If it was a formation of afterburners, that last guy was out of position.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on November 26, 2024, 09:55:32 PM
These are most definitely aircraft dispensed flares.

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: fd ski on November 27, 2024, 02:57:33 PM
i saw same thing as on the movie below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVuz8uM1qU

freaked me out. No sound, just bunch of stuff flying eastward direction.. and i live in Warsaw....
i thought war with Ruskies might have started...

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 27, 2024, 03:13:15 PM
Ours was definitely not starlink but that would have freaked us out too

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Shuffler on November 27, 2024, 04:15:12 PM
I believe it was the MARGARITA effect.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2024, 05:20:58 PM
Speaking of UFOs I'm guessing you all saw the story saying the mystery of the UFOs tracked by Navy F-18s not long ago was "solved". They said the apparent high speed of the objects could have been due to a parallax view with the objects being closer than perceived. With optical tracking and no laser ranging that's possible but they did not explain the ship radar tracking the objects doing impossible stuff before they sent the fighters out to investigate.

That they would suggest the former while ignoring the latter is suspicious in itself.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Leisure on November 27, 2024, 05:52:32 PM
I believe it was the MARGARITA effect.

Cool thing about the MARGARITA effect is that after a couple, you don't care if they are aliens or not. After the aliens have a couple, they don't care either. Worlds collide but everything turns out swell....
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on November 27, 2024, 06:27:49 PM
That's why the aliens planted margarita trees.

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting"
--Jackie Chan
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Leisure on November 27, 2024, 07:53:21 PM
That's why the aliens planted margarita trees.

"The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting"
--Jackie Chan

I've only seen the Patron variety of the Margarita tree species and I'm a fan.

I always knew Jackie Chan was smarter than that hack Sun Tzu.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Brooke on November 28, 2024, 01:54:38 AM
i saw same thing as on the movie below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVuz8uM1qU

freaked me out. No sound, just bunch of stuff flying eastward direction.. and i live in Warsaw....
i thought war with Ruskies might have started...

I saw that (Starlink chain of lights) once.  We were at a cabin with another family.  Two wives were on the deck.  My wife comes in and says, "Hey, come look at this."  I go out and see that string of lights moving across the sky, which I'd never seen before.  She says she thinks it's Starlink.  Very cool.

I went back inside and was talking to my buddy.  About 15 minutes later, my wife comes in and says, "Hey, now come look at this."  I go out and see purple and green in the sky.  She says she thinks it's the northern lights.  We are in Tennessee, so I'm thinking what the hell?  Then it got stronger.  Folks checked their phones, and it was the night of the northern lights making it that far south.

What a night.  Two amazing things I had never seen before in my life.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Meatwad on November 28, 2024, 07:49:56 AM
Here I didnt see any purples or greens, just red
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on November 28, 2024, 08:30:21 AM
Amazing how the human brain fills in the blanks on something it has no answer.

When people released Chinese floating lanterns (google it) they did give the unknowing imagination from a distance.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on November 29, 2024, 09:14:59 AM
Apparently you aren't the only one seeing interesting lights in the sky...

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1862321961575358937

"Watch as an apparent UFO was sighting was spotted hovering above Capitol Hill this week"
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: RUSH1 on November 29, 2024, 09:37:38 AM
We saw one of these fly over our house when I was a kid in the early 80's.  Low, slow and completely silent.  Later that night my dad called a local news station to see if they had received any reports of the craft.  He got his answer when the first words out of the woman's mouth were "are you calling about the UFO"?     

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on November 29, 2024, 09:50:20 AM
Apparently you aren't the only one seeing interesting lights in the sky...

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1862321961575358937

"Watch as an apparent UFO was sighting was spotted hovering above Capitol Hill this week"

Actually looks exactly like what I just posted about. Thats what they look like from a distance.

Aliens -coup? Government programs with aliens? <blank stare>

No coffee for you!

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on November 29, 2024, 09:55:40 AM
There’s a distinct pattern here and its not what one might think.

Same posted political conspiracies too. This is a mindset that moves from subject to subject.
<blank stare>
Everything is ‘possible’, I guess.
<runs>

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: RUSH1 on November 29, 2024, 10:06:35 AM
There’s a distinct pattern here and its not what one might think.

Same posted political conspiracies too. This is a mindset that moves from subject to subject.
<blank stare>
Everything is ‘possible’, I guess.
<runs>

And the resident windbag has arrived ...

You mean the conspiracy theories that you have had to cross off of your list?  Ouch.   
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: TyFoo on November 29, 2024, 12:34:30 PM
Apparently you aren't the only one seeing interesting lights in the sky...

https://x.com/rawsalerts/status/1862321961575358937

"Watch as an apparent UFO was sighting was spotted hovering above Capitol Hill this week"

Looks like a typical "Approach" route into a busy airport -consisting of a descent to the Initial Approach Fix, a level off to the Final Approach Fix then a descent to the runway.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on November 29, 2024, 01:42:28 PM

Here's a conspiracy theory..............

What is the possibility that earth has the most advanced civilization in the galaxy?   

Someone has to be the most advanced.    Maybe it's earth.

If that's the case, we won't be seeing "aliens" until we make the trip to their planet.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 29, 2024, 02:46:28 PM
Here's a conspiracy theory..............

What is the possibility that earth has the most advanced civilization in the galaxy?   

Someone has to be the most advanced.    Maybe it's earth.

If that's the case, we won't be seeing "aliens" until we make the trip to their planet.

More like we are like a planet of fire ants whose ego and greed has us killing each other for any stupid reason and the rest of the intelligence in the universe are just making sure we don't destroy the planet before its time..

Making sure they don't have to activate a planet fogger and make the planet peaceful and quiet again..

To think we think we are the pinnacle of intelligence in the universe is as funny as it is scary

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: nrshida on November 29, 2024, 02:48:48 PM
What is the possibility that earth...

There was once a fellow called Fermi who was pretty reasonable at thinkng who alreay chewed that over a bit.   

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Leisure on November 29, 2024, 03:24:32 PM
More like we are like a planet of fire ants whose ego and greed has us killing each other for any stupid reason and the rest of the intelligence in the universe are just making sure we don't destroy the planet before its time..

Making sure they don't have to activate a planet fogger and make the planet peaceful and quiet again..

To think we think we are the pinnacle of intelligence in the universe is as funny as it is scary

Eagler

"We'll make great pets."

~Perry Farrell, 1993
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: JimmyD3 on November 29, 2024, 03:31:03 PM

To think we think we are the pinnacle of intelligence in the universe is as funny as it is scary

Eagler

Not to worry Eagler, we're not...... :cheers:
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: GasTeddy on November 29, 2024, 04:00:42 PM
Fully agreed with Jimmy.
(https://i.pinimg.com/474x/e6/63/13/e66313d4ea6e952fd176d4a880190f19.jpg)     (https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.2650451504.4504/fposter,small,wall_texture,square_product,600x600.u5.jpg)
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on November 29, 2024, 06:31:36 PM
You would think the television and radio transmissions that they would be picking up would save them the trip ..

Or it's like the freak show tent at the circus, they can't help but stare..lol

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on December 02, 2024, 09:06:07 AM
Not to worry Eagler, we're not...... :cheers:

The his is true.

However, the items used as proof is more based on imagination.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 02, 2024, 12:18:06 PM
If aliens had visited earth, they would have taken earth's hotties and our delicious chocolate chip cookies. 

Too bad we can't take back all the probes with maps back to us contained within.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Brooke on December 04, 2024, 11:59:00 PM
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: RUSH1 on December 05, 2024, 11:08:58 AM
   
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 05, 2024, 04:09:30 PM
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: jigsaw on December 05, 2024, 10:58:27 PM
@icepak   Very underrated band.  Saw them in 83 or 84.  They were great.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 05, 2024, 11:36:23 PM
More sightings of strange drones over NJ.

https://x.com/EthicalTruther/status/1864780535769501877
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 06, 2024, 07:56:50 AM

Winter cold snaps would be the best time for an unfriendly country to deny the US of electricity.

How many six foot tall chinese guys of military age are there in this country?

Is anyone keeping tabs on what the chinese "farms" are buying?     
If it looks like they are prepping, we should know.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 07, 2024, 02:04:30 AM
Fox news now covering the story, and now they are adding that it's changing clocks in people's cars who followed it. What in the world. And course they can't tell us what the "classified" parts are... I wonder what could be classified about this?

https://x.com/realRJTalks/status/1864829611118670175

https://x.com/TheProjectUnity/status/1865162963130155071
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on December 07, 2024, 06:33:43 PM
Fox news now covering the story, and now they are adding that it's changing clocks in people's cars who followed it. What in the world. And course they can't tell us what the "classified" parts are... I wonder what could be classified about this?

https://x.com/realRJTalks/status/1864829611118670175

https://x.com/TheProjectUnity/status/1865162963130155071

I believe ZERO from FN. In fact credibility level just dropped.

I remember watching something in the sky, around the July 4, for a good 30 minutes thinking WTF is that!?!? It was too far away to tell, it moved but not like most flying objects. I had hook in mouth.

So some neighbors come out, started unfolding something, which turn into a bag,...then they held it upside down and lit it,.. I never saw on of these before...and off to the sky it went, glowing like a light bulb, the same light I was seeing miles away. it was one of those Chinese lanterns. 20 minutes later their were about 10 more floating, evidently a new 4th fad.

I just covered my face in shame and said holly Shh!....I was totally captivated in nothing.

I still question the boogie man under my bed, waiting, patiently waiting, panting hideous fowl breath, just very quietly waiting for me....

Do any of our space craft have lights? Why would a uber intelligent alien from space need lights? Could they not toy with the magnetic field of earth to to fight gravity? Did I just get lost in left field?
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 07, 2024, 10:30:08 PM
I believe ZERO from FN. In fact credibility level just dropped.

I remember watching something in the sky, around the July 4, for a good 30 minutes thinking WTF is that!?!? It was too far away to tell, it moved but not like most flying objects. I had hook in mouth.

So some neighbors come out, started unfolding something, which turn into a bag,...then they held it upside down and lit it,.. I never saw on of these before...and off to the sky it went, glowing like a light bulb, the same light I was seeing miles away. it was one of those Chinese lanterns. 20 minutes later their were about 10 more floating, evidently a new 4th fad.

I just covered my face in shame and said holly Shh!....I was totally captivated in nothing.

I still question the boogie man under my bed, waiting, patiently waiting, panting hideous fowl breath, just very quietly waiting for me....

Do any of our space craft have lights? Why would a uber intelligent alien from space need lights? Could they not toy with the magnetic field of earth to to fight gravity? Did I just get lost in left field?

🤦‍♂️ it's not about FN, it's about the fact that a large MSM network is covering it and is also sus about it. That means the video and reports are infact credible. In this case, it's not about the "spin" but that a large news agency is covering it. Just like my other post in this thread. I'm not concerned with their "spin" I'm really just looking at the video of the craft and acknowledging it as strange.

I posted Nancy Mace to also prove that even congress is sus. And that provides even more credibility that the objects are infact real and documented by congress, not just some homemade movie.

I'm not saying it's aliens though. Obviously way too loud to be aliens I would think. I'm just pointing out the phenomenon. But what I'm more concerned about is exactly what is "classified" that she mentioned. Like what can they not tell the public about this? That irritates me. What are they hiding and what's the bigger picture here?

See, I believe there are private companies who have come out with different flying technologies, like you see below. Is the government trying to avoid this type of technology as being a big deal so to avoid the collapse of the aviation industry? We have these machines/drones flying around, by people/organizations we don't know, doing what? And why aren't they using these types of crafts to help people in natural disasters?

There is a whole lot to this, and while I'm happy they are covering it, I still feel there is a very real limited.hangout going on.

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on December 07, 2024, 11:20:26 PM
🤦‍♂️ it's not about FN, it's about the fact that a large MSM network is covering it and is also sus about it. That means the video and reports are infact credible. In this case, it's not about the "spin" but that a large news agency is covering it. Just like my other post in this thread. I'm not concerned with their "spin" I'm really just looking at the video of the craft and acknowledging it as strange.

I posted Nancy Mace to also prove that even congress is sus. And that provides even more credibility that the objects are infact real and documented by congress, not just some homemade movie.

I'm not saying it's aliens though. Obviously way too loud to be aliens I would think. I'm just pointing out the phenomenon. But what I'm more concerned about is exactly what is "classified" that she mentioned. Like what can they not tell the public about this? That irritates me. What are they hiding and what's the bigger picture here?

See, I believe there are private companies who have come out with different flying technologies, like you see below. Is the government trying to avoid this type of technology as being a big deal so to avoid the collapse of the aviation industry? We have these machines/drones flying around, by people/organizations we don't know, doing what? And why aren't they using these types of crafts to help people in natural disasters?

There is a whole lot to this, and while I'm happy they are covering it, I still feel there is a very real limited.hangout going on.



No it's not about FN, was just sayin.

Ya, I dunno. The mind and eyes play such funny games.
Ironically, like bigfoot, with all the cams in the world no one has ever gotten a close up clear shot. Everything is always fuzzed out. Isn't it ironic that no one ever gets clear close-up picks of bigfoot or aliens? I mean this has been going on for generations. Even in the best vids the government has shown are so fuzzy ya can't tell WTH it is.

I worked with Copperfield for a week on prop testing and shows, it's amazing how easily the human mind is fooled. Testing the trick props I thought, "Oh come-on, this is so friggin obvious". Yet seeing it work in show I was shocked how well it came off.

Doesn't matter who it is, 1) every human can be fooled, 2) sensationalism sells.

Something else has to exist besides us, I just dunno if things like this are it.

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on December 08, 2024, 07:32:11 AM
I believe ZERO from FN.. Did I just get lost in left field?

You've been chasing butterflies out there for awhile imo

But you seem to know better than the rest of us about everything..carry on lol

Back to my op, if it were not afterburners I have no clue what it would have been but sure it wasn't a group of chinese lantern  :rolleyes:

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: RUSH1 on December 08, 2024, 01:55:19 PM
You've been chasing butterflies out there for awhile imo

But you seem to know better than the rest of us about everything..carry on lol

Back to my op, if it were not afterburners I have no clue what it would have been but sure it wasn't a group of chinese lantern  :rolleyes:

Eagler

When The View and Rachel Maddow are your trusted news sources ... well, you know.   
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 09, 2024, 11:06:14 PM
Fox news now covering the story, and now they are adding that it's changing clocks in people's cars who followed it. What in the world. And course they can't tell us what the "classified" parts are... I wonder what could be classified about this?

https://x.com/realRJTalks/status/1864829611118670175

https://x.com/TheProjectUnity/status/1865162963130155071

I was going back and re-listening to this since Fox is still covering it. I noticed he said it's been happening everyday besides Thanksgiving 😆 how nice of them. Is that because it's also a federal holiday?

I hope we get some real answers on this.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on December 10, 2024, 06:28:40 AM
Since no one is even trying to knock one down or disable one in anyway, makes me think the government is involved..

Then again they sat, twiddle their thumbs and watched Chinese spy balloons slowly drift across the entire nation while collecting data..involvement comes in many forms.

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 10, 2024, 12:21:27 PM

I knocked down a friend's drone by casting over it with my surfcasting rig.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Shuffler on December 10, 2024, 12:22:06 PM
I knocked down a friend's drone by casting over it with my surfcasting rig.
:rofl
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 10, 2024, 12:39:56 PM
It's time to get a handle on drone technology and don't think you can rely on chinese drone control hardware in a wartime situation.

I'm all for building machines to kill drones.   

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 10, 2024, 05:23:06 PM
Since no one is even trying to knock one down or disable one in anyway, makes me think the government is involved..

Then again they sat, twiddle their thumbs and watched Chinese spy balloons slowly drift across the entire nation while collecting data..involvement comes in many forms.

Eagler

I told my wife the same thing. They had such a hard time shooting that down, which was sketchy. This tech is way more sophisticated though.

Gotta be careful shooting drones though. Watch whole thing. Funny but sad.

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on December 11, 2024, 05:49:28 PM
[ Invalid YouTube link ]


https://youtube.com/shorts/FCDR27rx9QA?si=gBpijQTNCck9w8Wj
Feel much better now that he has been briefed... :rolleyes:

Still no answer...

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Meatwad on December 11, 2024, 06:02:45 PM
Military could knock them down if they really wanted to, problem is either they are ours and keeping silent about it, or the current admin would rather have enemies spy on us and are too scared to take action to stop it, much like the Chinese spy balloon
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on December 11, 2024, 07:02:14 PM
It's just Grok having a little fun with his drones.

Not sure I believe him.

(https://i.postimg.cc/3kvvM3f7/2024-12-11-19-04-35-Grok.png) (https://postimg.cc/3kvvM3f7)
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: nrshida on December 12, 2024, 06:09:35 AM
I know it's much easier for some to do but please do not shoot at the U.F.O.s, think it through instead.  :banana:
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on December 12, 2024, 06:39:46 AM
They like the balloons display weakness and indecisiveness..not surprising

Maybe a purposely set distraction..they don't look extraterrestrial imo

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 12, 2024, 06:52:02 AM

Not with FAA mandated navigation lights.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on December 12, 2024, 08:17:24 AM
Hmmm, I said they are probably not UFOs but something tricking the eyes. They are human made drones about 6 ‘ in diameter and in more than one city.

I do know I’ve seen Chicago police fly drones at night.

Its not that I know everything, its that I don’t auto jump into conspiracies.its the most common human response that any unknown in the sky is UFOs.

Its not that I’m smart, its just those who jump to conspiracies ate frequently wrong.

The question remains, who is flying them? Seems to me if it were something rotten they wouldn’t be using lights.

Drones can be brought down simply by jamming the RF. They have devices to do so.

Some of you blame every single conspiracy on the opposing party. My toilet won’t flush, the it works. other party is up to no good. Yet ignore your party’s friendly association with enemies who would do this. Even inviting the said enemies to the inauguration. <crickets>

And there are no proven reports of these things changing anything. Its just a blown out conspiracy that blames the current admin.conspiracy theorist live FN because every day they have a one every single day to use as deflection from current news. The addiction to any port in the storm for daily anger to keep viewers off balance, and why they do it. It obviously works. And even knowing this they go back for more.

I don’t instantly think crazy stuff because I don’t listen to crazy stuff. How many times can a person be wrong before they realize they just listen to crazy stuff, always looking fir that one thing they are finally right about, ignoring the 500 things that were bs.

I’ll stay on the rational side of thought, thank you. I prefer not to jump to blind conclusions. Its not smart, its common logic, which is clearly fading in many. Sensation sells. How National Enquirer got rich.



Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Maverick on December 12, 2024, 09:27:09 AM
I look at it a couple ways. The, to me, most logical theory is that there are several residents that have drones and are doing the flights at night to raise a bit of a ruckus and enjoy the chaos that has been developing. A more modern day prank if you will.

The second and least likely is that this is a psyop from an unfriendly govt. or organization (china / russia / drug cartels) using agents here thanks to dementia joe and the dems opening up the border. They are trying to cause disruptions in flights, civilian chaos and lack of confidence in our own local and fed govt agencies.

I don't worry about conspiracy theorists or their ideas. This is just what I came up with after watching a few news stories and seeing the pictures. The fact that there hasn't been a "shoot down" of the drones near a base using either directed energy (microwave etc) or frequency disruption by DOD tends to make me think the prank theory is more likely.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: DmonSlyr on December 12, 2024, 09:44:55 AM
I look at it a couple ways. The, to me, most logical theory is that there are several residents that have drones and are doing the flights at night to raise a bit of a ruckus and enjoy the chaos that has been developing. A more modern day prank if you will.

The second and least likely is that this is a psyop from an unfriendly govt. or organization (china / russia / drug cartels) using agents here thanks to dementia joe and the dems opening up the border. They are trying to cause disruptions in flights, civilian chaos and lack of confidence in our own local and fed govt agencies.

I don't worry about conspiracy theorists or their ideas. This is just what I came up with after watching a few news stories and seeing the pictures. The fact that there hasn't been a "shoot down" of the drones near a base using either directed energy (microwave etc) or frequency disruption by DOD tends to make me think the prank theory is more likely.

The fact that they didn't fly over Thanksgiving, to me atleast, says they are Fed/Military, since that is a federal holiday. If they were nefarious or from a foreign country, why would they care about TG? Smoking gun to me. If they were pranksters, they would have been caught already.

Now the fact that they won't tell us, is the weird part. Why don't they just come out and tell us these are operations. 

I just heard there's a new video at night of them over California now too.

It's interesting to say the least.
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Post by: icepac on December 12, 2024, 10:08:56 AM

I'm wondering if there is some missing nuclear material and they are trying to find it.
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Post by: Meatwad on December 12, 2024, 02:55:42 PM
Knock one out of the sky, whoever owns it will be beating your door down real fast
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Post by: nrshida on December 13, 2024, 02:24:01 AM
Knock one out of the sky, whoever owns it will be beating your door down real fast

What if they can trivially pass through the matter of your door unseen and probe Uranus?
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Post by: Meatwad on December 13, 2024, 08:41:44 AM


:noid
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Post by: Puma44 on December 13, 2024, 09:38:55 AM
I look at it a couple ways. The, to me, most logical theory is that there are several residents that have drones and are doing the flights at night to raise a bit of a ruckus and enjoy the chaos that has been developing. A more modern day prank if you will.

Reminds me of an unintentional prank we played on the fine citizens of Valdosta, Ga one night, while stationed at Moody, AFB in the F-4E.  We were doing night intercepts in the airspace (MOA) over downtown Valdosta at 20,000’ and above.  At some point, one of us two pilots (can’t remember which or admit to it) deployed a couple of flares to aid in the rejoin for RTB.  Thinking nothing of it, we rejoined and descended for landing.

The next morning the following headline was in the Valdosta newspaper;  “UFOs SPOTTED OVER DOWNTOWN VALDOSTA LAST NIGHT”.  It made for entertaining conversation in the squadron and at the bar the following Friday night.  Of course, it turned into an unofficial night rejoin “technique only” for some of us, purely for entertainment purposes only.

Then, some weeks later, I led a two ship to the Elgin AFB Fl bombing ranges to drop some BDU-33 (blue practice bombs) on a conventional bomb circle.  Since it was a pitch black night with no moon illumination and very few lights on the ground, we were taking our time being very deliberate in the bomb pattern and subsequent dive into the darkness. After dropping one each of our six BDUs on each pass, it was time to climb up, rejoin, and check in with Jacksonville Center for the trip back to Moody.  As lead, I was in a climbing turn and attempting to talk #2’s eyes on to me for the rejoin.  Getting frustrated with his “night blindness”, I told him to watch for an afterburner stroke.  We tried this twice.  He was unable to see our burner strokes, directly above him.  So, I told him to watch for something brighter.  Flare switch to “ON” and ripple away.  Over the radio, “Oh, there you are, right where you said you were”.

The next morning, headline in the Valdosta paper “UFOs REPORTED OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE LAST NIGHT”.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hvkt56Rs/IMG-5351.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSRPG6JS)
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Post by: Shuffler on December 13, 2024, 12:34:40 PM
Another book story but no book...  :D

Amazingly BEAUTIFUL pic!
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Post by: Puma44 on December 13, 2024, 12:38:49 PM
Another book story but no book...  :D

Amazingly BEAUTIFUL pic!

Yeah, yeah, still collecting nuggets like this.  Haven’t forgotten, just wading through that real life thing, yuh know.  Patience, grasshoppah, patience.
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Post by: Eagler on December 13, 2024, 03:26:27 PM
Howdy Puma

Does that video I posted here look like it might be single engine jets going into afterburner one after the other ?
Is that how they would to that or would all four go afterburner at the same time?

The video is just a loop of the last 4 the wife caught on her phone but it happened exactly like that about 20 seconds before that clip for a total of 8 lights

Eagler
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Post by: Puma44 on December 13, 2024, 05:01:27 PM
Howdy Puma

Does that video I posted here look like it might be single engine jets going into afterburner one after the other ?
Is that how they would to that or would all four go afterburner at the same time?

The video is just a loop of the last 4 the wife caught on her phone but it happened exactly like that about 20 seconds before that clip for a total of 8 lights

Eagler

Hi Eagler,

Could be fighters accelerating in burner and then coming out of burner.  Hard to tell for sure.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Puma44 on December 14, 2024, 01:00:36 PM
Just found the solution:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxqgss9V/IMG-7846.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMsqV7Vn)
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: IntelDan on December 14, 2024, 11:41:05 PM
It's just future humans trying to catch Season 2 of "Time Traveling Bong" and the first shot of WWIII.
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Post by: Animl-AW on December 15, 2024, 10:33:37 AM
It's just future humans trying to catch Season 2 of "Time Traveling Bong" and the first shot of WWIII.

Ha!
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Post by: Animl-AW on December 15, 2024, 10:37:31 AM
Sightings are such a fad now people are confusing drone sightings with manned AC. Out of 5000+ reports only a lil over 100 were legit concerns. They zoomed in on a few and some were in fact planes. Not to remove concerns about industrial sized drones snooping around.
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Post by: icepac on December 15, 2024, 05:30:52 PM
US security officers are now trying to muddy up the water.   

I believe the people in charge are trying to scare up sentiment that ends with drones being illegal to fly unless it's in official capacity for a military or law enforcement service.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on December 15, 2024, 06:21:15 PM
If FTL is possible then viewing the past of our own planet is possible. I like the idea it's possible. Technology in our future might allow us a voyeuristic look at our past. Would you fault them/us?
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Meatwad on December 15, 2024, 06:56:05 PM
See if there was another shooter on the grassy knoll
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Post by: Brooke on December 16, 2024, 12:32:54 AM
See if there was another shooter on the grassy knoll

This tells you about that and much more:
https://a.co/d/645p62M
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Post by: nrshida on December 16, 2024, 01:42:40 AM
If FTL is possible then viewing the past of our own planet is possible. I like the idea it's possible. Technology in our future might allow us a voyeuristic look at our past. Would you fault them/us?

It's unlikely Homo Sapiens are compatible with time travel even in the distant future or there would be evidence already by now.
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Post by: AKIron on December 16, 2024, 09:21:49 AM
If you could travel faster than light you could travel out into space and then intercept light from your past. Of course that has nothing to do with strange drones on our shores.
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Post by: DmonSlyr on December 16, 2024, 09:25:30 AM
Seems like lost radiation, or nuclear material, or even nuclear warhead they are searching for. A CEO for a drone company who partners with the government has made a video about it.

Pretty crazy if so. Now if only they could use these drones to pick up people during a natural disaster. Then we'd have something...
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Animl-AW on December 16, 2024, 09:31:20 AM
If you could travel faster than light you could travel out into space and then intercept light from your past. Of course that has nothing to do with strange drones on our shores.

From what little I understand, time in space is slower. So I would think you’re already in time travel. Recklessly assuming I heard right.
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Post by: Animl-AW on December 16, 2024, 09:41:00 AM
Seems like lost radiation, or nuclear material, or even nuclear warhead they are searching for. A CEO for a drone company who partners with the government has made a video about it.

Pretty crazy if so. Now if only they could use these drones to pick up people during a natural disaster. Then we'd have something...

Similar, or same guy, also said most are manned AC being mistaken. Saying the government doing it would make sense IF they were looking for that stuff. However also stated he doubts its any threat, criminals are using them to track pice after they rob a place, kids online are toying with people launching Chinese lanterns, flying their own drones to mess with people. He also stated, like the moon looks large on the horizon is they same effect if predicting size. You can be looking at an AC 15 miles away, thinking its smaller 1 mile away. People investigating say 100 of 5000 reports are valid.


I think we are in an era where humans let their imaginations run unleashed and first option, boring lives lead to infatuated with sensation of any form.

I think the whole thing is a mess across the board.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on December 16, 2024, 09:41:08 AM
According to Einstein time passes relatively slower the faster you go. We are constantly accelerating in gravity wells like stars and planets. Some think if you fell into a black hole time would virtually stop for you, relatively. So, in "flat" space time passes at max speed. Of course there is no such thing as perfectly flat space. Gravity reaches everywhere. 
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Post by: Animl-AW on December 16, 2024, 10:14:48 AM
According to Einstein time passes relatively slower the faster you go. We are constantly accelerating in gravity wells like stars and planets. Some think if you fell into a black hole time would virtually stop for you, relatively. So, in "flat" space time passes at max speed. Of course there is no such thing as perfectly flat space. Gravity reaches everywhere.

Seems to me average travel time in space is 16,000 mph. There was a doc with astronauts and they covered the subject, which seemed to verify what we are saying. Time is slower in space.  I don’t watch Tv/movies, I’m a documentary fan. I sponge everything I can. Basically so when I get Alzheimer I can forget all of it as waste of time. <shrug> 
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on December 16, 2024, 11:36:28 AM
According to Relativity the faster you move through space the slower you move through time. The slower you move through space the faster you move through time. No one knows for sure what the maximum speed through time can be because it would require you to come to a stop in all of space (which is expanding btw) and be free from all gravitational effect. Not possible.

I'm gonna amend that comment about maximum time speed. You can observe the effect when two objects, like people, are stationary relative to each other and both experience the same gravity. Time passes at its max relative to those.
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Post by: AKIron on December 16, 2024, 11:57:51 AM
BTW, Einstein's theories on Relativity have been proven. GPS satellites must be corrected to account for it.
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Post by: RUSH1 on December 16, 2024, 12:04:40 PM
   
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Post by: IntelDan on December 16, 2024, 07:59:20 PM
It's unlikely Homo Sapiens are compatible with time travel even in the distant future or there would be evidence already by now.

My brother thought the same thing claiming you might age backwards, at best. Nothing would stop drones though. Shades of 'Terminator.'

See what I did there?
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Chris79 on December 16, 2024, 08:56:40 PM
From what little I understand, time in space is slower. So I would think you’re already in time travel. Recklessly assuming I heard right.

As one travels faster time slows for them compared to one who is not traveling. Even someone who flights on an airline would experience slightly less time passage then a stationary person. Not much, maybe .5 milliseconds, but it’s there non the less.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on December 16, 2024, 09:23:53 PM
If you've never read Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe or seen the documentary based on it you should.

An excerpt on time.

Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: RUSH1 on December 16, 2024, 10:15:15 PM
   
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Post by: Shuffler on December 17, 2024, 12:30:42 PM
Just found the solution:

(https://i.postimg.cc/Cxqgss9V/IMG-7846.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMsqV7Vn)

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Post by: Animl-AW on December 17, 2024, 05:44:34 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Thats hysterical.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: IntelDan on December 17, 2024, 10:22:08 PM
Reality is so boring. The drones are anti-terrorism reconnaissance drones under development.

Nothing as complex as any of us thought.
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Post by: Eagler on December 18, 2024, 08:06:34 AM
Reality is so boring. The drones are anti-terrorism reconnaissance drones under development.

Nothing as complex as any of us thought.

Cloak of Anarchy..copeyes

https://www.scribd.com/document/302196288/Niven-Larry-Cloak-of-Anarchy

Eagler
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Post by: icepac on December 18, 2024, 09:22:14 AM

I think the government's silence on opens the door to interpretation.   

My goal is to take one down with with a thrown roll of toilet paper.     A fishing pole is too easy but better for longer range. 
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Post by: Animl-AW on December 18, 2024, 11:41:54 AM
I think the government's silence on opens the door to interpretation.   

My goal is to take one down with with a thrown roll of toilet paper.     A fishing pole is too easy but better for longer range.

Actually the government has spoken on it more than once. A little slow but they did. Certain tribes don’t want to listen and stick with imagination, because its more exciting.

IMO, people who are actially up to something would go stealth with no lights saying “here I am”.

I do know this. Many large cities who have large LED screens in places use drones to get night shot vids to run on them. Kinda like looping screens savers. Many streaming news channels use them in place of commercials.

The pattern seems to be, people who freaked out sbout it, freak out about everything. A form of panophobia. They are also the loudest which over shadows quiet reasoning.

Now they started a fad of trolls flying them just to freak them out more.

<shrug>

That said, any drone who comes near my home, for what ever reason, will become like a clay pigeon exploding in air. “Joke is on you”. :)
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Post by: DmonSlyr on December 18, 2024, 12:11:26 PM
Actually the government has spoken on it more than once. A little slow but they did. Certain tribes don’t want to listen and stick with imagination, because its more exciting.

IMO, people who are actially up to something would go stealth with no lights saying “here I am”.

I do know this. Many large cities who have large LED screens in places use drones to get night shot vids to run on them. Kinda like looping screens savers. Many streaming news channels use them in place of commercials.

The pattern seems to be, people who freaked out sbout it, freak out about everything. A form of panophobia. They are also the loudest which over shadows quiet reasoning.

Now they started a fad of trolls flying them just to freak them out more.

<shrug>

That said, any drone who comes near my home, for what ever reason, will become like a clay pigeon exploding in air. “Joke is on you”. :)

This isn't just hysteria though. All major intel communities are saying they don't know. It's been all over the MSM. Normally they like to write these things off. No military agency saying anything. I mean this is just super sketch, childish, and irresponsible IMO. Are they getting the population use to flying drones now with Walmart and Prime? So they can push more regulations against regulars flying them? This has psyop written all over it. How hard is it to get a F16 up to take some pictures next to one?



Do not shoot down a drone. You may be liable for a felony if it's a company drone from Walmart/prime
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Eagler on December 18, 2024, 03:02:18 PM
They are the future of law enforcement and endless war

Eagler
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: AKIron on December 18, 2024, 03:15:49 PM
There will be an end to war.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: IntelDan on December 18, 2024, 07:42:08 PM
Under Trump's first term the administration announced the beginning of tests in that area. One of my coworkers claimed to have seen a discussion about the original announcement.

Tim Pool IRL comes to mind.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: nrshida on December 19, 2024, 08:48:20 AM
There will be an end to war.

Do you mean when Homo Sapiens become extinct or have you a more optomistic vision?
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: icepac on December 19, 2024, 08:53:30 AM
Time to put together an interceptor.
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Meatwad on December 19, 2024, 11:05:03 AM
Manpads are cheap and will knock it out
Title: Re: UFO or ..
Post by: Shuffler on December 20, 2024, 07:12:08 PM
I am currently working on a new weapon to counter this UFO threat called the Kotextulator. You fire them off with an airgun. If you hit a UFO it can bleed it dry. The handy thing about these is that you can string them together in target rich environments.