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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on February 17, 2025, 03:03:55 PM
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Hoping the talks quickly find solutions to finally end the killing and destruction..at least they are discussing the possibility..
:pray
Eagler
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Agreed
Even better when both parties are nvolved.
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Agreed
Even better when both parties are nvolved.
Good luck with that. Some are old enough to remember a deal made on the Sudetenland.
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Good luck with that. Some are old enough to remember a deal made on the Sudetenland.
I never knew much about that.
But meanwhile back st the ranch protest are erupting nationwide.
Peace is great, getting there requires effort and logic.
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Good luck with that. Some are old enough to remember a deal made on the Sudetenland.
Yeah, it's starting to feel very 1938 right now.
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I never knew much about that.
But meanwhile back st the ranch protest are erupting nationwide.
Peace is great, getting there requires effort and logic.
Just research Neville Chamberlain; The Sudetanland; "Peace in our time".
History repeats.
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Just research Neville Chamberlain; The Sudetanland; "Peace in our time".
History repeats.
Does it? You guys can predict the future now?
If putin keeps some of his pre 2014 territory my guess is he doesn't continue on like Hitler and attempt to conquer Europe but please continue the paranoia...I think his performance against Ukraine has shown he's definitely not capable of that
Hoping Gaza finds peace as well..such needless death and destruction
Eagler
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Just research Neville Chamberlain; The Sudetanland; "Peace in our time".
History repeats.
Prime Minister Chamberlain: “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war.
I can well understand the reasons why the Czech Government have felt unable to accept the terms which have been put before them in the German memorandum. Yet I believe after my talks with Herr Hitler that, if only time were allowed, it ought to be possible for the arrangements for transferring the territory that the Czech Government has agreed to give to Germany to be settled by agreement under conditions which would assure fair treatment to the population concerned.
You know already that I have done all that one man can do to compose this quarrel. After my visits to Germany I have realised vividly how Herr Hitler feels that he must champion other Germans, and his indignation that grievances have not been met before this. He told me privately, and last night he repeated publicly, that after this Sudeten German question is settled, that is the end of Germany’s territorial claims in Europe.”
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Expecting anything from Putin, based on his history, besides what he has been doing seems rather silly to me. Why shouldn’t he try for all Ukraine now with his amorphous orange ally.
Just my opinion. Once KGB always KGB.
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Reducing the size of a corrupt and deranged petulant government with endless money to spend who ruins your life if they don't get to steal enough of your hard earned doesn't make us Nazis, it makes us CONSERVATIVES.
I WISH YOU PEOPLE COULD GET THAT THROUGH YOUR DAMN HEADS.
War is peace for the left. Always has been. Hilarious how we are actually doing something about this now instead of sending endless billions of Americans wealth so more people can die...
Just give up some land. Its over.
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It looks to me some here would be OK if we were still dying in Afghanistan for absolutely nothing..
How about Vietnam, some upset we didn't stick that out and save that country from communism?
Like JFK wouldn't be surprised if trying to stop the killing doesn't result in other killing...
Peace
Eagler
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Reducing the size of a corrupt and deranged petulant government with endless money to spend who ruins your life if they don't get to steal enough of your hard earned doesn't make us Nazis, it makes us CONSERVATIVES.
I WISH YOU PEOPLE COULD GET THAT THROUGH YOUR DAMN HEADS.
War is peace for the left. Always has been. Hilarious how we are actually doing something about this now instead of sending endless billions of Americans wealth so more people can die...
Just give up some land. Its over.
Nazi has more to do with race/culture.
Fascism is about nationalism and money.
I don’t get the war thing. That side of the fence has called for revolution and civil for 12 yrs. Lets not cry they get what they threatened for yrs. They normalized it. They been calling the other side been labeling fir 12 yrs. They got what they put out and can’t handle it.they can’t take what they dished out. Now victims
Btw the last wars were started by that side the fence, based on lies.
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Does it? You guys can predict the future now?
If putin keeps some of his pre 2014 territory my guess is he doesn't continue on like Hitler and attempt to conquer Europe but please continue the paranoia...I think his performance against Ukraine has shown he's definitely not capable of that
Hoping Gaza finds peace as well..such needless death and destruction
Eagler
At this point it seems Putin is likely to keep the 10% he gained in 2014 and another 10% from the last 3 years.
Some thoughts.. War stops when a side loses the will or ability to continue. Putin will always have the ability to some degree so the question is will. The prevailing narrative from the Russians has been that it is their destiny to expand and UA has no legitimacy as a country. If you want Russian Imperialism to cease then that ideology must become so painful that they give up on it. They have not done so as of yet.
So, look at this how the Russians and China keep stating as this is part of the long fight to become the strongest world power and dethrone the US. With an economy transitioned over to a war economy, it is easier to stay there and set up the next phase of this process. A next phase in a few years coinciding with China aggression looks like not a bad idea in that context.
So, my suggestion is to not rule in or out something based on your current frame of reference. You could be right. You could be wrong but always look at what others are saying their frame of reference is.
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Nazi has more to do with race/culture.
Fascism is about nationalism and money.
I don’t get the war thing. That side of the fence has called for revolution and civil for 12 yrs. Lets not cry they get what they threatened for yrs. They normalized it. They been calling the other side been labeling fir 12 yrs. They got what they put out and can’t handle it.they can’t take what they dished out. Now victims
Btw the last wars were started by that side the fence, based on lies.
By yalls definition of "fascism" you'd consider the founding fathers of America Fascist nazis. Who wanted to reduce government overreach on businesses and individuals.
They destroyed fascist fuedalism called the British, an out of control totalitarian government who thought they could do whatever they wanted just like the US establishment became over the last 70 years.
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It's also about saving the US dollar..
Can't continue to devalue it with the trillion $$$ annual deficits without long term repercussions imo
Just wondering if it were the other sides idea if more against it now would then be for it..silly ppl
Eagler
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Sometimes the movie industry is so very prophetic. From 1991 with respect to James Cameron:
"We're not going to make it, are we."
"Its in your nature to destroy yourselves."
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By yalls definition of "fascism" you'd consider the founding fathers of America Fascist nazis. Who wanted to reduce government overreach on businesses and individuals.
They destroyed fascist fuedalism called the British, an out of control totalitarian government who thought they could do whatever they wanted just like the US establishment became over the last 70 years.
Sorry bud, not true. So far what they found will not even cover the interest on our dept. they show ZERO evidence. And that money found will NOT benefit you, its fir tax cuts for billionaires. Ya didn’t make out the last time either, 83% of that cut went to as nyobe eho makes over 400l per yr.
What they did show was findings from over 20 yrs ago.
These dweebs are find wrong stuff because they are truing to push Lenox code into a cobol system , what they found was cobol code where 0 is 1875. They say 150 yr old deaths are receiving SS. <blank stare
When it comes down to it they are looking fir waste to funnel into their pockets calling it s tax break.
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By yalls definition of "fascism" you'd consider the founding fathers of America Fascist nazis. Who wanted to reduce government overreach on businesses and individuals.
They destroyed fascist fuedalism called the British, an out of control totalitarian government who thought they could do whatever they wanted just like the US establishment became over the last 70 years.
My friend, here is 14 defining characteristics of fascism.
Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing
and in public displays. (violation of Flag Code mind you)
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.
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Wow, I am amazed this hasn't been locked yet. :rofl
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Wow, I am amazed this hasn't been locked yet. :rofl
Me too.
It was meant well, its civil. But prolly won’t last
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Animl-AW..are you trying to lock this thread?
I think peace can be discussed without that happening..keep your sore loser comments to yourself please
Eagler
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If anyone can bring peace back to that region it will be the current POTUS.
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Some understand we just can't adopt a country...no matter how much $$$ it makes for some...
"signed a 10-year bilateral security pact .."...6/13/2024
Eagler
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If anyone can bring peace back to that region it will be the current POTUS.
Proof is in the pudding.
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Animl-AW..are you trying to lock this thread?
I think peace can be discussed without that happening..keep your sore loser comments to yourself please
Eagler
Countering comments
I dunno how facts make me a sore loser, but ok.
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Proof is in the pudding.
Who were the Presidents when Russia and Ukraine were fighting? Who when they weren't?
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I see several in here who like war over peace. Those types are the problem.
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Sorry bud, not true. So far what they found will not even cover the interest on our dept. they show ZERO evidence. And that money found will NOT benefit you, its fir tax cuts for billionaires. Ya didn’t make out the last time either, 83% of that cut went to as nyobe eho makes over 400l per yr.
What they did show was findings from over 20 yrs ago.
These dweebs are find wrong stuff because they are truing to push Lenox code into a cobol system , what they found was cobol code where 0 is 1875. They say 150 yr old deaths are receiving SS. <blank stare
When it comes down to it they are looking fir waste to funnel into their pockets calling it s tax break.
Well, the Social Security chief just resigned today, so...
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing
and in public displays. (violation of Flag Code mind you)
and this is a bad thing how? Nationality is a key to culture and keeping that culture from becoming manipulated. For example Spain is a far different country than Germany for a reason. Are you saying they shouldn't be proud of their countries? I don't understand that argument because you aren't going to have unique cultures if you globalize all cultures and try to make them all the same. British were big on this too
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
yup, just like when shut down everyones business for Covid. Whether you agree with that or not, that was an abuse of human rights. Also look at Europe for arresting people speaking freely on the internet because they are speaking out on corrupton. Refer to event 201 and how they wanted to supress speach before Covid even came out. British were big on this too, remember they owned lots of slaves.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
calling everyone fascist and Nazis is precicely the tool the left is using to keep their base unified. Notice how the US was always concerned about communism from the 60s till the Obama Admin, now it's muh fascism. Both sides could be guilty of this, so I don't necessarily believe it's all just "fascist" refer to China propaganda on children to ruin their parents conservative traditions and become communist. British were also big on this too in order to capture more land .
4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
this is on both sides because communism and fascism are roughly the same. Are you saying the soviet union didnt have a military supremacy and disregard of their citizens? British were big on this too
5. Sexism - refer to colonial British refer to communist China and Soviet union. Its not specifically a fascist thing. Just a generational thing.
6. Controlled mass media. - It's not a fascist thing. It's a big government thing. Conservatives are not for controlled mass media which is why we have the majority of alternative media on our side. Think about that. Communist/fascist want big government and media propaganda control not Conservatives.
7. National security is more important ever before. All sides want some form of security for their people so I'm not sure how its only a fascist thing. That being said, Conservatives feel that they can protect themselves more than the left who want to make smart cities so they can connect literally everyone's lives on a grid. Check China and their over security, towers at stoplights, ect. Tight security has always been a control mechanism for the left, but obviously there needs to be some emphasis on national security.
8. Religion and government - not necessarily fascist. Look at the middle east. They are religious and mostly communist. And while you may consider that "Conservative" they believe in more government than less, hell 80% of their own population doesn't even work because they get all their money from the government. I don't believe Hitler nor Musiilini was religious. The founding fathers created "freedom of religion" for a reason and no one is saying that people shouldn't be allowed to practice their religion in America, as long as they aren't using it to hurt people.
9. Corporate power? Corporate power is 100× less powerfull than government. Governments are extremely powerful because of the amount of money they get in taxes and printing. Remember, a nation that has millions of prospering corporations is far better than a nation with a few corporations that control the government - that is what real fascism. Conservatives want less major corporations and more competition where as the left always turns into a few corporations that control the government due to non competitive policies that the large crops try to get government to impose.
10. Labor suppression is not only a fascist thing. Just look at China and Soviet union. Talk about no rights. Why you think America lost all its business to communist China who treat their workers even more like crap with less regulations, hence cheaper pay. Colonial British also had slaves. Current dems want indentured slavery through illegal immigration they can take advantage of. A prospering corporation actually wants to have a happy labor force because that produces better quality work. Labor unions are okay for some, but you never saw Labor unions in communist countries either. There's a reason why communist countries always had the poorest worst off people and never became as rich like individual Americans have.
11. Intellectuals and arts - I would say Thomas Sowell is a great one to read about intellectuals and their BS. They are used to promote communism and many of them never worked a real job in their lives and only base their assumptions on theory rather than reality. And no one has a problem with artist - but its more about the over sexualixation they are trying to promote. Further, if you noticed, all the intellectuals who went against the covid narratives and vaccines were shunned and had their accounts closed by leftest who ran massive corporations incahoots with government, imagine that. Refer to event 201.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment. - not only a fascist thing. If you steal in Saudi you get a hand cut off. America was one of the most lenient places. China and Soviets have extremely quick trials. Conservates don't like being taken advantage by theives and cheats either. So of course we want punishment, however the type of punishment can and should be debated.
13. Rampant cronyism - finally something that's actually fascist - but this is the pre-requisit to communism. Once the leaders gain full control of government figures, they eventually just become the government, that's what happened in the soviet union and China. They basically took it all over and said they were the owners now and if you don't agree, we will shoot you. Its not a conservative belief because we want more competition, more owners, and less crony capitalism, crony capitalism always happens when governments become too larger and it's always the governments fault for accepting bribes and making policies against business competition that makes it harder for smaller businesses to achieve success.
14. Fraudulent elections - Refer to Stalin and 2020 election :rofl it's both not necessarily just a fascist thing. Conservatives want free and open elections because it's usually them who get cheated as we move closer to a globalist UN agenda which hate conservatives.
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If anyone can bring peace back to that region it will be the current POTUS.
I am sure that a plan to take over Greenland, Gazza and Canada will assure peace. :rolleyes: