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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Animl-AW on March 30, 2025, 01:10:47 PM
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Geothermal electricity is generated using hot water or steam from underground reservoirs to power turbines that produce electricity. The steam or hot water is then reinjected back into the reservoir. Geothermal energy is created by the slow decay of radioactive particles in the earth's core, heating magma in the outer core. Rocks and water absorb heat from the magma, with deeper rocks and water ttreaching the highest temperatures.
Here's how geothermal electricity works:
Drilling: Wells are drilled into the earth to tap into hot water or dry steam wells, which can be up to two miles deep.
Piping: The steam or hot water is piped to the surface.
Powering turbines: The steam or hot water drives turbines that generate electricity.
Reinjection: After producing electricity, the steam or hot water is often reinjected into the reservoir.
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The other half of the equation is that harnessing geothermal energy cools the earth and, if any heat is released on ground level, the atmosphere absorbs the heat.
So, the earth gets cooled and shrinks. What happens to the crust that has to bunch up?
Earth quakes.
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The other half of the equation is that harnessing geothermal energy cools the earth and, if any heat is released on ground level, the atmosphere absorbs the heat.
So, the earth gets cooled and shrinks. What happens to the crust that has to bunch up?
Earth quakes.
AT THE ASTRONOMY LECTURE:
Lecturer: We predict that our sun will explode in five billion years, and that all life on this planet will cease.
Woman in the crowd: *Gasp* EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU PLEASE SAY THAT AGAIN? HOW LONG?
Lecturer: Five billion years.
Woman: *relaxes into her seat* Thank God! I thought you said five MILLION years.
- oldman
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AT THE ASTRONOMY LECTURE:
Lecturer: We predict that our sun will explode in five billion years, and that all life on this planet will cease.
Woman in the crowd: *Gasp* EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU PLEASE SAY THAT AGAIN? HOW LONG?
Lecturer: Five billion years.
Woman: *relaxes into her seat* Thank God! I thought you said five MILLION years.
- oldman
To be fair, her and her husband just got one of those newer 60 million month auto loans about a year ago on the new Dodge. They want to see that title before the end.
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AT THE ASTRONOMY LECTURE:
Lecturer: We predict that our sun will explode in five billion years, and that all life on this planet will cease.
Woman in the crowd: *Gasp* EXCUSE ME, COULD YOU PLEASE SAY THAT AGAIN? HOW LONG?
Lecturer: Five billion years.
Woman: *relaxes into her seat* Thank God! I thought you said five MILLION years.
- oldman
It's sad I could believe every word of that, with confidence.
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It's sad I could believe every word of that, with confidence.
Yet some think they can control global climate change with policy lol
Eagler
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So I guess they will come up with some way to charge you for cooling the earth.
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Yet some think they can control global climate change with policy lol
Eagler
This isn’t political, its science
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So I guess they will come up with some way to charge you for cooling the earth.
I'm guessing the thermal mass of the planetary body is more than the thermal mass of the atmosphere.
Besides, it's largely a closed system. If the heat can't escape out into space because of greenhouse effect, it has no choice but to move back to the medium of greater thermal mass.
You're simply cycling the heat around.
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From what I understand, take that as you will, some parts of the earth core reaches the same temp as the sun. It's decaying radiation. It didn't start and all you get is what you save in a container. It's going to produce heat until then end.
I understand the radiator effect, but man you would have to do a lot of that to actually cool the earth. Oceans on top at 34- degrees has had no affect, in fact it's having the opposite affect, the water is warming. If it's dissipating heat it's not working enough.
I can bend either way on the issue, because I don't know everything about it. From what we are able to do so far it might only produce 16% of the current electricity draw. so it comes down to is it worth it, as is everything else.
Lets say the radiator effect takes place in doing so, what if the earth was about to burn itself up from the inside out (imagination rocketing right now), then that would be prolonging the inevitable and be good for humans.
Here's one thing I have come to understand, throw any politics into ANYTHING, and consider it ruined.
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The real problem with geothermal is land stability. Even though it's deep down when you start pumping the water out it has an impact on the land. So it depends where you are taking it from. Also most area good for geothermal are also active volcanic zones, and active earthquake zones.
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The real problem with geothermal is land stability. Even though it's deep down when you start pumping the water out it has an impact on the land.
This is what can happen when a geothermal drilling goes wrong:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Staufen.Cracks_%28cropped%29.jpg/800px-Staufen.Cracks_%28cropped%29.jpg)
I visited this very beautiful town a few years ago. The cracks were everywhere, over 260 buildings (many of them historic one) had been damaged, about half of them heavily. Some had to be demolished.
Turned out that a local geothermal drilling had hit a high pressure groundwater layer, which happened to be under a ~250ft think layer full of anhydrite which started to turn into gypsum... resulting in a volume increase up to 60%.
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kinda figured it was too good to be true
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Nuclear is the way to go.
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Yeah we've had ground collapses and sinkholes in a couple of places in NZ, relatively shallow geothermal stuff though. Worst thing is that the fissures that open up usually have something nasty in them like very hot or acidic water from the deeper volcanic activity.
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The real problem with geothermal is land stability. Even though it's deep down when you start pumping the water out it has an impact on the land. So it depends where you are taking it from. Also most area good for geothermal are also active volcanic zones, and active earthquake zones.
Pumping any water out more than goes in will create hollows that can collapse. Californian irrigation is a good example.
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Earthquakes.
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Pumping any water out more than goes in will create hollows that can collapse. Californian irrigation is a good example.
Sink holes...insurance against them is worse than hurricane coverage
Eagler
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I'm sure Fracking may begat some land instability but haven't read anything on it.
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This isn’t political, its science
It’s a social science. They basically use a series of statistical regressions using altered data from the past and computer models to determine a preordained conclusion. The total number of stations that collect weather data has declined and those that are still in use tend to be clustered around airports, city centers, etc which are highly susceptible to the “urban heat island” affect. If the same methods used by climate scientists were applied by biotech companies testing new medicines the FDA would fail them all. The sad thing is that the climate very well could be changing but the methods or lack there of used by these so called climate scientists are so sketchy I tend to disregard their conclusions.
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It’s a social science. They basically use a series of statistical regressions using altered data from the past and computer models to determine a preordained conclusion. The total number of stations that collect weather data has declined and those that are still in use tend to be clustered around airports, city centers, etc which are highly susceptible to the “urban heat island” affect. If the same methods used by climate scientists were applied by biotech companies testing new medicines the FDA would fail them all. The sad thing is that the climate very well could be changing but the methods or lack there of used by these so called climate scientists are so sketchy I tend to disregard their conclusions.
This infirmation comes from where?
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This infirmation comes from where?
It's a known fact Tampa FL weather forecast temperature is taken at the airport TIA ..
Local meteorologist complain about it on their forecasts as all the concrete around it skews the average temperature higher..
Eagler
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It's a known fact Tampa FL weather forecast temperature is taken at the airport TIA ..
Local meteorologist complain about it on their forecasts as all the concrete around it skews the average temperature higher..
Eagler
Thats nit the part I was referring to. I wrote weather software in the 90s the info has always come from airports, since day one.
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Thats nit the part I was referring to. I wrote weather software in the 90s the info has always come from airports, since day one.
Of course you did...
Well let's move the thermometers off the concrete to start..maybe we can put them on black asphalt roads instead..lol
Eagler
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Of course you did...
Well let's move the thermometers off the concrete to start..maybe we can put them on black asphalt roads instead..lol
Eagler
Thats right I did. A desktop app.
APs is what fed realtime wind, which my app updated every 3 seconds. Apps then didn’t have realtime wind then. Temps every 10 min. It fed off the closest airport to you. Its not complicated. If you want to bypass 1 hr change a weather website ir news you fed directly iff an AP data feed.
Of course with NOAA cuts you may not always get the seas info you get now, or data from canisters released in hurricanes.
You seem to think everything funded is messed up. You go do it. You people know everything about everything without ever touching it. Amazing humans. We’ll just ask you when your next hurricane is coming.
I’ll just forget my history because you didn’t do it. Now we’re even.
The XP Game Launcher I made that killed services and background processes in XP, was picked up and used by a guy named Mike who worked at Microsoft and flew AH. A few years later Game Mode came out. A very toned down version of what my app did. Did he steal the idea, I dunno. Coincidence? <shrug>
Also rebuilt AW damage model. :neener:
The gold AH logo and default sounds HT obtained from me, which they improvised on, which I charged nothing, he gave me a free account, which I lost login info to :neener:
My mom was an investigative reporter with her own TV show. I picked up on a few things, called details first.
If you’re gonna insult someone you might want to know their history.
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Not insulting anyone Animl-AW..you go man!
Just telling you a known fact that city temperature of Tampa is reporting high as it's in a sea of concrete at TIA..
Eagler
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There's a valid reason for weather equipment to be primarily at airports. Weather reporting is critical to air operations and especially the conditions at airports. The temps and other measurements are accurate there even though affected by the massive heat garnering concrete slabs. That effect is still important to airfield operations. Predicting climate change based on those conditions? Who would do that?
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Not insulting anyone Animl-AW..you go man!
Just telling you a known fact that city temperature of Tampa is reporting high as it's in a sea of concrete at TIA..
Eagler
Just FYI
History ch - Modern Marvels has a great episode on this subject, why its at airports and how the thermometer was invented.
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Hydrogen seems promising once infrastructure for it comes up to speed. All of the equipment in the warehouse i work at runs on it. I think the next 20 years should be fun to watch changes in different energy alternatives. Harnessing the power from multiple sources and having them work together is a interesting thing to ponder.
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Need hot air and flatulence powered devices as most are full of one or the other or both...
Endless "clean" energy lol
Eagler
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Perpetual motion machine
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Cow farts !!
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Cow farts !!
White Castle, and Taco Bell farts!
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White Castle, and Taco Bell farts!
A single White Castle fart would prolly solve the problem.
In fact I have 3 WC within 3 miles, going to get some, sober or not.