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Title: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 06, 2025, 12:44:08 PM
Gents,

   
     I know many are manipulating things.   That's it's own topic   But if you need to watch film to kill a tank that is defending against a port against a horde of 12-15 fighters,  you have bigger issues that you should see someone about.   Filming isn't meant for this intent.   
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 06, 2025, 04:09:44 PM

   All these views but no replies.    DO better when in your hordes........
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: icepac on May 06, 2025, 04:42:53 PM

Make aces high not be playable in windowed mode.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 06, 2025, 04:57:36 PM
Make aces high not be playable in windowed mode.

The dream of the 80's is alive in....
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: The Fugitive on May 06, 2025, 06:26:31 PM
Make aces high not be playable in windowed mode.

Its not playable in windowed mode. You must alt tab out or close the game out. To view a film you must close out the game to view the film
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Devil 505 on May 06, 2025, 08:04:31 PM
An easier fix would be to restore GV icons to their pre-Storch level.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Shuffler on May 07, 2025, 09:46:05 AM
Discussing Aces Low in Aces High. Penalty, remove 3 points. Have a frozen margarita.... try again.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: oTRALFZo on May 07, 2025, 10:58:13 AM
Best way to negate the film view is to constantly be on the move.
I know this may be difficult if you have nearby enemies.

I have seen some park in a bush then go dormant for hours and they do so for no other reason but to flash a base or get proxies.  That to me is fair game to use whatever means necessary to find them even with film. 
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Randy1 on May 07, 2025, 02:23:37 PM
There are three players I know of in the game that need no film..   Some how they can see under every tree and bush in the game in one pass.

I have heard players say if you have your setting right, at 1500 feet there is a thin line where the leaves disappear.  Never tried it so it may be just a tall tale.

auto assign has also taking it's toll on secret hiding spots.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: haggerty on May 07, 2025, 03:19:48 PM
I havent seen any tricks to finding tanks, just comes with experience of figuring out where their spawn is, then drawing a logical driving line from there to their logical target.  Fly low and look under the trees.  Some are just impossible to see if they are in bushes that cover them. 
However, if they are attacking with 15 people I seriously doubt anyone looked at the film, that would require them to end their current sortie, go watch the film, then take off again and fly to that base.  More than likely someone just saw you.  And if you were the sole defender at the port its probably safe to assume you had eyes on the maproom, which also helps attackers to be able to find you, process of elimination of the view points.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 07, 2025, 03:31:15 PM
More than one monitor allows video on the other screen while you play. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Spikes on May 07, 2025, 03:37:22 PM
More than one monitor allows video on the other screen while you play. Just sayin'.
Aces High does not allow Windowed mode.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 07, 2025, 03:46:11 PM
Aces High does not allow Windowed mode.

I know. Does it work differently for offline practice mode than online?

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Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Spikes on May 07, 2025, 03:54:19 PM
No. What does watching YouTube have to do with this post?
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 07, 2025, 03:56:12 PM
Guess I misunderstood. I thought it was a complaint about watching a video to see where a tank was hiding. Certainly doable. My apologies.

I see, apparently you can record a film and see where everyone is through playback. You could do that easily enough with a 2nd machine but what's the point?
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Devil 505 on May 07, 2025, 05:25:47 PM
Guess I misunderstood. I thought it was a complaint about watching a video to see where a tank was hiding. Certainly doable. My apologies.

I see, apparently you can record a film and see where everyone is through playback. You could do that easily enough with a 2nd machine but what's the point?

You can't run the game and the film viewer at the same time. It would require multiple machines and an easy way to transfer the film file. Expensive and probably not very time efficient.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 07, 2025, 05:40:57 PM
You can't run the game and the film viewer at the same time. It would require multiple machines and an easy way to transfer the film file. Expensive and probably not very time efficient.

I'm gonna delete my post and the next one. Don't wan to give anyone ideas.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 07, 2025, 05:50:18 PM
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Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 07, 2025, 06:38:05 PM
I havent seen any tricks to finding tanks, just comes with experience of figuring out where their spawn is, then drawing a logical driving line from there to their logical target.  Fly low and look under the trees.  Some are just impossible to see if they are in bushes that cover them. 
However, if they are attacking with 15 people I seriously doubt anyone looked at the film, that would require them to end their current sortie, go watch the film, then take off again and fly to that base.  More than likely someone just saw you.  And if you were the sole defender at the port its probably safe to assume you had eyes on the maproom, which also helps attackers to be able to find you, process of elimination of the view points.

----  Respectfully.   Game being filmed.......leave the game........watch film and see where one is sitting......then spawn back into the game and drive directly to me....no where near the base.     Its easy and many do it.   And if you need to do it,  your ( not you ) need to check your ego. 
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: GOODBYE on May 07, 2025, 07:11:23 PM
I see zero issue, a tank can easily move and negate this  :aok
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 07, 2025, 07:36:23 PM
I see zero issue, a tank can easily move and negate this  :aok

---- Could.   Would.    But again,  if you're using film to find a tank.............and especially if you're swarming a base........  using film is a sad option.

But I digress
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: AKIron on May 07, 2025, 09:21:32 PM
I don't see the attraction in camping. Got old fast in Duke Nukem.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: haggerty on May 07, 2025, 09:35:57 PM
I remember having to hunt your trolling tank before, if you were no where near the base how were you defending it from 15 people?  If you were troll flashing, good riddance, we need more sportsmanship in this game, not more trolling.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: mERv on May 08, 2025, 07:51:54 AM
There are three players I know of in the game that need no film..   Some how they can see under every tree and bush in the game in one pass.

I have heard players say if you have your setting right, at 1500 feet there is a thin line where the leaves disappear.  Never tried it so it may be just a tall tale.

auto assign has also taking it's toll on secret hiding spots.
last year AKCaine started a thread about players using a 3rd party shader program that changed the color of trees and vegetation allowing one to easily spot ground vehicles hiding. A few members of the community commented saying they were aware. I would venture to say that is the most likely scenario your talking about Randy1 but I could be wrong  :cheers:
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 08, 2025, 06:16:33 PM
I remember having to hunt your trolling tank before, if you were no where near the base how were you defending it from 15 people?  If you were troll flashing, good riddance, we need more sportsmanship in this game, not more trolling.


Who's trolling....?   You've got the wrong guy.    I can see this conversation goes nowhere.   It was more of a statement than anything on my part.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Lazerr on May 08, 2025, 06:33:04 PM
This is comical.  People hiding in trees not happy with folks using game tools to find them..

Once upon a time this game used to be about combat.

Maineac you run sorties purposely going afk knowing just to flash a field while you do work related tasks.  What do you think is more sweethearty?  The guy running film or the guy with no intention of attacking, going afk for sometimes hours?

It's a close race, but the prize is still last place.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: JimmyD3 on May 08, 2025, 11:09:06 PM
I f a gv is flashing a base for an extended period of time, I see no issue going to film to locate them. You do have to log off the game to bring the AH Film viewer up, and even if you do, that is no guarantee, you'll be able to find the gv when  you log back on.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: icepac on May 09, 2025, 10:41:10 AM

If you do that, at least run a search pattern to look legit.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: MDStampf93 on May 09, 2025, 11:15:33 AM
Only ever did this once after searching and searching for the Gv that was flashing a base… checked film only to find Tailspin sitting afk inside a 3 story building with a jeep…

Like…. Why?  :O

Naturally once I saw this I took my own jeep to said building, drove inside and unloaded .50 cals into his drivers face…

JEEP kill  :cool:
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: oTRALFZo on May 09, 2025, 11:39:50 AM


Like…. Why?  :O





I think some are doing it just to get proxies. Great way to get kills by boring your opponent to death  :confused:
Others even admit, they do it to get someone/group of folks to wait until you get sick of searching so eventually get the base flashing for long enough, they move in unopposed.

I dont like trash talking the game but the GV game has been so "gamey" lately. Invisible GVs, Players turning down graphics, hiding in buildings and main gunning planes mid flight.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 09, 2025, 12:01:06 PM
This is comical.  People hiding in trees not happy with folks using game tools to find them..

Once upon a time this game used to be about combat.

Maineac you run sorties purposely going afk knowing just to flash a field while you do work related tasks.  What do you think is more sweethearty?  The guy running film or the guy with no intention of attacking, going afk for sometimes hours?

It's a close race, but the prize is still last place.

In the previous year,   many months I'd get pulled away short or no notice.   It isn't easy watching/living with a Mother In Law with dimensia living at your house.   I would say I rarely,  intentionally parked off base.   Unless it was to pull some away from a horde or to make it easier for me to roll into a town after being searched for.     But I hear ya.   I guess in most aspects a lot in game is comical.   I digress and move on.   Everyone pays their $14.95/mo.    Oh,  and she passed away 2 months ago,  so I should be able to dedicate more time to ensuring I'm not being "sweathearty".    Carry on
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Shuffler on May 09, 2025, 12:54:41 PM
Making a base flash also pulls defenders from another fight.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Dadtallica on May 09, 2025, 01:41:01 PM
I think some are doing it just to get proxies. Great way to get kills by boring your opponent to death  :confused:
Others even admit, they do it to get someone/group of folks to wait until you get sick of searching so eventually get the base flashing for long enough, they move in unopposed.

I dont like trash talking the game but the GV game has been so "gamey" lately. Invisible GVs, Players turning down graphics, hiding in buildings and main gunning planes mid flight.

I thought proxies didn’t count for anything anyway? Other than the kill count message upon a successful landing
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Lusche on May 09, 2025, 01:47:28 PM
I thought proxies didn’t count for anything anyway? Other than the kill count message upon a successful landing

Proxies are regular kills for scoring purposes (like k/d, k/h), but of course you get only 1 kill point for them.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Animl-AW on May 09, 2025, 02:15:54 PM
I loathe the proxie kill settings. But I’m also not looking at data.

Getting any credit for doing nothing is s bit gamey, but it’s a Melee Arena, so…its the game part, events are the sim part of the product.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: RELIC on May 09, 2025, 07:45:06 PM
Agreed.  And they are often AFK for hours which can affect eny when there are low numbers.

I think some are doing it just to get proxies. Great way to get kills by boring your opponent to death  :confused:
Others even admit, they do it to get someone/group of folks to wait until you get sick of searching so eventually get the base flashing for long enough, they move in unopposed.

I dont like trash talking the game but the GV game has been so "gamey" lately. Invisible GVs, Players turning down graphics, hiding in buildings and main gunning planes mid flight.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: icepac on May 10, 2025, 04:05:19 AM
I chute out and walk around looking for M3s because I like pistol whipping them.   
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: LCADolby on May 10, 2025, 06:38:05 AM
 I can say from experience of flying around a base under attack from GVs that I do not blame a single player from checking film to find out where they are hiding.
 
 It's cheesey yes, but it beats flying around for 20mins wasting your limited existance looking at the same countryside going around in circles and search patterns because (In a move to piss off people interested in the High part of AcesHigh) the Icon distance was unfairly reduced to favour ground creepers.

 You brought the dweebery upon yourselves and have no right to complain
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Eagler on May 10, 2025, 07:16:27 AM
Gv's should leave tracks that don't disappear until the vehicle is destroyed,  if ever and create dust while moving imo ... they have a Cloak of Invisibility now

Eagler
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Maineac1 on May 10, 2025, 11:03:51 AM
I can say from experience of flying around a base under attack from GVs that I do not blame a single player from checking film to find out where they are hiding.
 
 It's cheesey yes, but it beats flying around for 20mins wasting your limited existance looking at the same countryside going around in circles and search patterns because (In a move to piss off people interested in the High part of AcesHigh) the Icon distance was unfairly reduced to favour ground creepers.

 You brought the dweebery upon yourselves and have no right to complain

To be clear..........   Defending a maproom against a swarm with no help online.......  No dweebery.   And I wasn't complaining.   I was pointing out it's checkenshet to do when you're rolling in a horde.    And I stand by it.   But again,  I digress.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: maxy on May 10, 2025, 11:33:36 AM
i don't quite understand what the big deal is, if the "game" has a tool available to defeat your enemy why shouldn't it be used...
the only thing that really dies is ones ego, its not like you have to wait 12 hrs to re-spawn.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Randy1 on May 10, 2025, 03:44:05 PM
i don't quite understand what the big deal is, if the "game" has a tool available to defeat your enemy why shouldn't it be used...
the only thing that really dies is ones ego, its not like you have to wait 12 hrs to re-spawn.

A lot has to do with what your priority is in the game.  That is what gives you the most bang for the buck.  I enjoy base capture, and base defense.  Others could really care less about bases won and lost which is fine.

Base defense as Maineac posted, against  a hoard is all about the final stealth defense of the map room.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: JimmyD3 on May 10, 2025, 09:26:40 PM
A lot has to do with what your priority is in the game.  That is what gives you the most bang for the buck.  I enjoy base capture, and base defense.  Others could really care less about bases won and lost which is fine.

Base defense as Maineac posted, against  a hoard is all about the final stealth defense of the map room.

I'm there with  you Randy1, for me it's all about the base captures/defense and winning the war.
Title: Re: Watching film to find a tank
Post by: Randy1 on May 11, 2025, 02:42:35 PM
I'm there with  you Randy1, for me it's all about the base captures/defense and winning the war.

 :aok

So often a map might be on days but the final map win or loss can be measured down to a fraction of a second.  That gets to be exciting.