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Title: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 04:15:59 AM
Last night, I called out Shane on 200 for his constant negativity. Everyone knows Shane loves to berate others on 200 and it simply drags the vibe down. After watching him do it again, I finally said, 'Shane, for God’s sake, can you not be nice? The community is too small now, to be trollin. Throw some positivity out there for once."

As soon as I typed that, I thought I seen a warning pop up go by as I was typing. When I asked if that was a warning, I got slapped with a 10-minute mute. After the 10 min mute ended, I came back and said, 'I just got a 10-minute penalty for asking someone to be nice. No wonder the community is shrinking.' Bam, that earned me a two-hour mute.

This kind of abuse from anonymous moderators is unacceptable. This is not moderation....this is abuse of moderation privileges. With our online community struggling, this kind of moderation is definitely not encouraging people to stay.

Anonymous Moderator - F+
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: captain1ma on May 15, 2025, 07:20:20 AM
this should've been sent straight to hitech!
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: DmonSlyr on May 15, 2025, 07:59:26 AM
Yeah, too many forum postings about this.. Take a picture and send to hitech. I agree it's ridiculous but there's nothing the community can really do about it..
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: ZE on May 15, 2025, 08:56:32 AM
For the good of the game, moderators should be active... but need to be certain when AH rules are violated. Our community is really shrinking, and we are all trying to promote our game the best we can. Being friendly during the game, for sure, is a better tactic than any other.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 09:04:36 AM
Last night, I called out Shane on 200 for his constant negativity. Everyone knows Shane loves to berate others on 200 and it simply drags the vibe down. After watching him do it again, I finally said, 'Shane, for God’s sake, can you not be nice? The community is too small now, to be trollin. Throw some positivity out there for once."

As soon as I typed that, I thought I seen a warning pop up go by as I was typing. When I asked if that was a warning, I got slapped with a 10-minute mute. After the 10 min mute ended, I came back and said, 'I just got a 10-minute penalty for asking someone to be nice. No wonder the community is shrinking.' Bam, that earned me a two-hour mute.

This kind of abuse from anonymous moderators is unacceptable. This is not moderation....this is abuse of moderation privileges. With our online community struggling, this kind of moderation is definitely not encouraging people to stay.

Anonymous Moderator - F+

Let's not ignore the fact you were on my ankle for a good 10+ minutes with your bloviating while I basically ignored you as the situation (a base take that actually succeeded because rook horde - I even wtg'd it...) subsided and you just stayed on my ankle stuck in your loop.

Then you got a warning and mouthed off about it on channel - you have not learned to heed the warnings.  (I didn't get a warning,) but I also got a ten minute mute because I said you got yours for staying on my ankle too long. 

Bloviate less; pontificate even less, and maybe heed the warning when a mod suggests you calm down - and calm down.

Real tired of hypocritical liars like you, capera with your claims that are simply false. 

Protip: you're not gonna find the missing joy in your life on my ankle.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: haggerty on May 15, 2025, 09:19:25 AM
The hypocrisy is so entertaining.  Toxic players bickering with other toxic players about getting muted.  And then flooding the game's forums with toxicity, warning that new people might see the bad side of the game.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 09:23:41 AM
The hypocrisy is so entertaining.  Toxic players bickering with other toxic players about getting muted.  And then flooding the game's forums with toxicity, warning that new people might see the bad side of the game.

I guess you really don't like that I view your limited skill-set of of playing for score and how you play to that for your ego as... limited.

Case in point: your whinge about bombing stats.

Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 09:38:42 AM
Yeah, too many forum postings about this.. Take a picture and send to hitech. I agree it's ridiculous but there's nothing the community can really do about it..

It was one comment from me questioning a rook tactical decision - that's it... and then I found capera on my ankle for 10+ mins. This occurred early evening, yet it took capera 8+ hours to get around to making this post.  I think his continued pushback against the mod got him an additional timeout, I don't know.

Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Yarbles on May 15, 2025, 09:41:42 AM
I have to say I haven't played for a while as I got tired of the general negativity.

There are two aspects. The negatives and those who then keep banging on about the negative players. Its a joint responsibility.

Finally there is the endless talk of cheating and people hacking the game none of which I have seen proven.

I have flown with some great players none of whom were guilty of the above.

All the negs are doing is pee ing in their own sandpit then complaining it smells and no one wants to play in it.   

You all know who you are when you do it.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Eagler on May 15, 2025, 09:44:16 AM
Canned text message only..like the check 6 call and salutes...not sure why some are compelled to say anymore than that anyways..

Some obviously can't control their excitement lol

Eagler
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 09:50:41 AM
The hypocrisy is so entertaining.  Toxic players bickering with other toxic players about getting muted.  And then flooding the game's forums with toxicity, warning that new people might see the bad side of the game.

I am no longer toxic, Haggerty. Thanks for attempting to keep me labelled in a bad light.

What happened last night was not right, and if you support that kind of moderation, then you become part of the problem.

Try not to be so...'judgey' and maybe offer some maturity to this conversation.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2025, 09:51:05 AM
this should've been sent straight to hitech!

This ^^^

If you’re worried about the game this is the last thing you want to do, both of yas.

That said, stop blaming Mods who are tasked with your behavior.

Pot meet kettle.

I’ve seen you troll shane almost nightly. So when you blame a mod consider its an ongoing behavior, not a single incident. Taking this long to slap a mute (wrist smacking) has gone beyond considerate, way beyond fair. Trust me, there is always more to a story beyond accusations.

Frankly, Shane has been mild compared to past times.

Some of ya constantly test mods to find the limit. Now you know where the white line is. They have been more lenient than me.

Intensional room disruption and scrolling the text buffer with trolling is worthy of a wakeup call.

Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2025, 10:06:22 AM
Just FYI
Usually a situation has been conversed between mods before action is taken. It can be mire than one mod calling it, or HT himself. So to blame one is kinda moot. Many times like a jury. It can be rare a mod acts on their own.This is why it should be directed to HTC, not bbs.

Do not argue with a mod action. It will only get worse.

As someone involved said to me sniveling sbout HOs “… its ok to be cool”

:)
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 10:08:14 AM
I get the suggestion to go to HiTech, but it’s a dead end. He knows exactly what his moderators are doing and chooses not to act. I’ve spoken with him about this before, and he was very clear: his mods will not tolerate being questioned. That’s why I’m bringing it up here—because this is our community. The MA is our playground, so to speak. If we want to keep it from completely dying, we need to deal with the negativity ourselves.

Yeah, yeah, I get it—my past behaviour hasn’t exactly been stellar. But I’ve owned that, and I’ve worked to fix it. I’m not here pointing fingers to stir the pot. My reason for bringing this up is simple: to raise awareness about something that absolutely will drive players away if it keeps going unchecked. And the worst part? It’s so unnecessary. If the moderator had actually been doing thier job last night, Shane would’ve been warned to stop berating other players for their game play. But the mod sat silent. That’s the way it goes with these mods—if they like you, you can say just about anything. But if they don’t, you get little to no leeway. I’ve experienced this firsthand, time and time again.

So here we are. HiTech’s made his position clear—this isn’t going to get fixed from the top. That means it’s on us, the players who actually care about this sim. If we want the MA to survive, if we want new players to stick around and old ones to stay, we need to check the toxicity ourselves. Enough of the ego trips, the cheap shots, and the gate keeping. Time to get back to flying, fighting, and having fun. That’s what keeps this place alive.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 10:11:57 AM
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Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Yarbles on May 15, 2025, 10:15:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2F4INQFjEI

More of this is what we need  :rofl :rofl :rofl :D :D :D
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 10:19:40 AM
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Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Lazerr on May 15, 2025, 10:23:48 AM
Shane if you keep at it he will invite himself to your house, and threaten harm to you.  All it takes is to climb to 35k and drop his bombers.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 10:29:37 AM
Shane if you keep at it he will invite himself to your house, and threaten harm to you.  All it takes is to climb to 35k and drop his bombers.

Can always count on this from Lazerr. I get it.

Again, I have corrected my ways. But there is always someone in here that will 'keep' passing judgment.

And again....for the record. I did not say I was coming to your house..... I was mearly trying to remind YOU, that if YOU play the tough guy, hiding behind a keyboard, that there is something out there called the Dark Web. Filled with 17 year olds that can find out how much $$$ you have in the bank. It was a "heads up" to YOU.....based on YOUR trolling and bravado behind a keyboard.

I hope you have healed.

Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: fudgums on May 15, 2025, 10:32:38 AM
Should've ho'd em
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: MDStampf93 on May 15, 2025, 10:40:22 AM
Should've ho'd em

When I saw you commented, before I even got to read it I knew it was going to be something along these lines  :rofl

Cap… not gonna try and tell you what to do man… I would just suggest not engaging at all on 200, like Eagler said… all I send on 200 is salutes and way to gos and good fights, just try and stay out of the nonsense  :aok
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Devil 505 on May 15, 2025, 10:44:51 AM
I'm pretty sure the mods have a standing order to mute anyone that responds to a warning from a mod.

Based on all the crying from the keyboard warriors crying about "mod abuse" when getting a mute, it seems to me they are very consistent.

In short, if you get warned, STFU.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 10:53:02 AM
Cap… not gonna try and tell you what to do man… I would just suggest not engaging at all on 200, like Eagler said… all I send on 200 is salutes and way to gos and good fights, just try and stay out of the nonsense  :aok

Thank you. I get it. Honestly, I’m just about at the point of joining you guys in ignoring the noise. Maybe that really is the answer. But at the same time, I can’t help but think about the new players, or those coming back after a break. If all they hear on channel 200 is constant negativity and hate, they’re not going to stick around. And if that keeps up, our numbers will just keep dropping. It’s senseless.

The negativity on 200 ramps up hard sometimes. That’s what I was trying to explain to Shane—the online presence is too small now to support a trash-talk culture like it used to. There’s just not enough people for that kind of toxicity to be “part of the fun” anymore.

Sure, I could ignore it. I could walk right past it. But if nobody ever calls it out, we’re going to watch this sim fade away because of it. And that would be a shame.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Yarbles on May 15, 2025, 11:02:29 AM
Are we nearly there  :D
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 11:04:32 AM
I'm pretty sure the mods have a standing order to mute anyone that responds to a warning from a mod.

Based on all the crying from the keyboard warriors crying about "mod abuse" when getting a mute, it seems to me they are very consistent.

In short, if you get warned, STFU.

The warning pop up went by too fast, as I was typing to Shane. I then asked if that was a warning...and got a 10 min mute, instead of verification. All the Mod had to do was resend the warning. But no...I got penalized for asking a question. No profanity. No anger. An honest question.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: eddiek on May 15, 2025, 11:24:28 AM

……….and after reading yet another thread about “mod abuse”, I say that my decision to not tune 200 at all was and still is the right one for me.  Seen too much nonsense there, with little said that is constructive to the game and game play. 
The ONLY reasonable/rational response would be to call or email HT directly.  Oh, and be satisfied that you handled your end the right way.  Whether HT agrees with you or not is not the issue…..contrary to what was said previously, the server and arenas are HIS playground.  He allows us access to the, when we pay the monthly sub, and oh yeah, we agree to his rules. 
I don’t always agree with HT’s decisions.  That’s just life.  I have the choice, as does everyone else, to continue playing the game despite not agreeing with him,……or not. 
Coming here and causing more drama is not the solution, ever.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Busher on May 15, 2025, 11:26:31 AM
The warning pop up went by too fast, as I was typing to Shane. I then asked if that was a warning...and got a 10 min mute, instead of verification. All the Mod had to do was resend the warning. But no...I got penalized for asking a question. No profanity. No anger. An honest question.

All we are saying is that venting your grievances here is a waste of time. The Ultimate moderator of the game and these forums is HT. You could take your complaint to him... the rest of us couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: oTRALFZo on May 15, 2025, 11:28:09 AM
Seems as though there are some on here who just do not have fun playing this game. There has been so much bickering on 200 and in the forums

For me it has always been give or take. I have good days and have some bad days and will always try to adapt when having bad days. I will side switch if I can switch back when squaddies log on. I will ignore what the map is doing if we are getting hoarded or do whatever.
Once the game gets too much (which is very rare), I will just log off. No need to let everyone know, no need for drama. Just log off, take a breather and hope next time I log on, I can get a fun sortie or few.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 11:31:06 AM
Last night, I called out Shane on 200 for his constant negativity. Everyone knows Shane loves to berate others on 200 and it simply drags the vibe down. After watching him do it again, I finally said, 'Shane, for God’s sake, can you not be nice? The community is too small now, to be trollin. Throw some positivity out there for once."

As soon as I typed that, I thought I seen a warning pop up go by as I was typing. When I asked if that was a warning, I got slapped with a 10-minute mute. After the 10 min mute ended, I came back and said, 'I just got a 10-minute penalty for asking someone to be nice. No wonder the community is shrinking.' Bam, that earned me a two-hour mute.

This kind of abuse from anonymous moderators is unacceptable. This is not moderation....this is abuse of moderation privileges. With our online community struggling, this kind of moderation is definitely not encouraging people to stay.

Anonymous Moderator - F+

This crap is the main reason I don't play anymore. The thing that you will notice is some people can say things that other people get muted for.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 11:32:07 AM
this should've been sent straight to hitech!
Good luck with that. When I said I was going to quit a friend said he contacted HT about it and was told there wasn't any records of me being warned or muted...
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 11:33:38 AM
Yeah, too many forum postings about this.. Take a picture and send to hitech. I agree it's ridiculous but there's nothing the community can really do about it..

If there are that many posts here, imagine the other 80% of the players that aren't on the forum...
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 11:35:05 AM
Let's not ignore the fact you were on my ankle for a good 10+ minutes with your bloviating while I basically ignored you as the situation (a base take that actually succeeded because rook horde - I even wtg'd it...) subsided and you just stayed on my ankle stuck in your loop.

Then you got a warning and mouthed off about it on channel - you have not learned to heed the warnings.  (I didn't get a warning,) but I also got a ten minute mute because I said you got yours for staying on my ankle too long. 

Bloviate less; pontificate even less, and maybe heed the warning when a mod suggests you calm down - and calm down.

Real tired of hypocritical liars like you, capera with your claims that are simply false. 

Protip: you're not gonna find the missing joy in your life on my ankle.

Of all the people to talk about ankles lolz.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 11:38:59 AM
Of all the people to talk about ankles lolz.

And lookit where you are now!  :aok 
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 11:41:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2F4INQFjEI

More of this is what we need  :rofl :rofl :rofl :D :D :D

OMG! I was in love with her when I was like 16! lolz
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: oTRALFZo on May 15, 2025, 11:43:16 AM
Good luck with that. When I said I was going to quit a friend said he contacted HT about it and was told there wasn't any records of me being warned or muted...
Not sure about this but why would he disclose another players "records". I am surprised they would disclose any sort of information of another player ( I wouldn't)
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 11:46:22 AM
Not sure about this but why would he disclose another players "records". I am surprised they would disclose any sort of information of another player ( I wouldn't)

That I don't know. I don't even know that he actually did call. I'm just saying what I was told...
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Yarbles on May 15, 2025, 12:02:23 PM
Last time I played the people most complained about were Capeera and Joker for some reason. I have no problem with either and think Joker makes a big contribution. What put me off was all the complaining about other players not the players. The way people went on about Capeera it reminded me of bullying. Yes Capeera used to call people out for some reason but the response was like some players got obsessed with him and it was all they talked about !!

Seriously I think the game is unhealthy for everyone when its like that. 

Then it moves to here  :bhead

Seriously can you not find another wat to amuse yourselves ??
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2025, 12:10:15 PM
The same players
The same complaints
All intensionally test mods to say “ see told ya so” bark bark.

I’ve been muted and off bbs. Ya never do because I don’t cry about it. Its over, no one died.

Hazmatt I saw your name in the MA 2 nights ago.

The biggest offenders cry the loudest and make public spectacles as professional victims.

BTW you probably have to hit an OK button to close the warning.

This is small beans
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 12:18:43 PM
All we are saying is that venting your grievances here is a waste of time. The Ultimate moderator of the game and these forums is HT. You could take your complaint to him... the rest of us couldn't care less.

and if you could care less, and that's you right........why chime in?
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 12:19:36 PM
BTW you probably have to hit an OK button to close the warning.

Actually, no... you could be typing as the warning pops up and hit enter to send your text and that causes the popup box to go away... it can be easy to miss.

That's probably what happened to capera, which is why he asked if that was a warning and the mod took it as pushback.

However, coming back and going on about mods again after the 10 min timeout was his bigger mistake.  You would think he would be cognizant of this by now.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 12:22:37 PM
Hazmatt I saw your name in the MA 2 nights ago.

What?! An imposter!

It's prob Shame with a shade account trying to ruin my bad reputation.

I promise it wasn't me :)
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: capera on May 15, 2025, 12:27:57 PM
Pheww...... the forums trolls nearly got me. (running)    :rofl

Done talking about this. You can keep your heads in the sand, or you can contribute to promoting "positivity" in the sim, vice negativity that Shane and other still seem to thrive on. And...once all the players are gone, all you will have are these forums to talk about the old days, when we had a populated MA. 

{future tolling posts will be ignored}

 :salute
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 12:32:37 PM
What?! An imposter!

It's prob Shame with a shade account trying to ruin my bad reputation.

I promise it wasn't me :)

Never did shades. Ever.  Try again.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Shane on May 15, 2025, 12:35:11 PM
Bloviating pontification while trying to DARVO.

Fixed it for you.

Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2025, 12:42:23 PM
All I’m sayin is, if things like this deeply bother someone life is going to be very hard to pedal through.

This post did more damage than 200. 200 scrolls away, bbs is forever and touches more people and new players. Disgruntled former players use that concept to cause the most harm.

Capera don’t let the others use you as a vehicle to vent their non-stop complaining. Let it go bro.

Peace!
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 12:50:13 PM
All I’m sayin is, if things like this deeply bother someone life is going to be very hard to pedal through.

This post did more damage than 200. 200 scrolls away, bbs is forever and touches more people and new players. Disgruntled former players use that concept to cause the most harm.

Capera don’t let the others use you as a vehicle to vent their non-stop complaining. Let it go bro.

Peace!

I agree. This is something that if it hasn't changed by now probably isn't going to change.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2025, 01:10:14 PM
I agree. This is something that if it hasn't changed by now probably isn't going to change.

From what I’ve seen/experienced most calls of fowl play by mods are fowl. Its not as wrong as you speak, I've watched you test mods. No one complaining in this thread is innocent.

Last I heard from you the reason you’re not playing us affordability for whole family.

Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 01:17:05 PM
Last I heard from you the reason you’re not playing us affordability for whole family.

You're right both ways.

The reason I did cancel my sub was because of mods. I got a warning for saying something pi55ed me off.

The reason I haven't come back even though I've considered it a few times is because I like to be able to play with my kids but really can't justify the cost of multiple accounts to play with them once or twice a week.


I'm curious who's the new HazMatt you're seeing. Does he fly like Skkyr?  :bolt:
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: Animl-AW on May 15, 2025, 02:09:14 PM
You're right both ways.

I'm curious who's the new HazMatt you're seeing. Does he fly like Skkyr?  :bolt:

Dunno, but I doubt someone would pay $15 to harass a firmer player. Doesn’t make sense, to normal people.

I would not put ANYTHING past YKW and V.

That said, I’ve been the original Anim, Animl, FT_Animal since early 90s. But there are plenty duplicates out there. When the AW migration took place a rival stole Animl before I could get it.
Before that I was Arrow.

Hazmatt is not really uncommon anymore than Animal.

Why I said I saw your name, not that it was you.
Title: Re: Moderator Abuse
Post by: hazmatt on May 15, 2025, 02:17:48 PM
Dunno, but I doubt someone would pay $15 to harass a firmer player. Doesn’t make sense, to normal people.

Ya, I was goofing. Did you miss the part about: "trying to ruin my bad reputation"?