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Title: Tank Battles
Post by: Yarbles on May 20, 2025, 10:29:30 AM
How about Kursk' The Ardennes or El Alhemien with no Aircraft ?
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: captain1ma on May 20, 2025, 10:55:08 AM
come on thursday nights in the AVA! no quite the battles and no airplanes. totally unmolested!
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Randy1 on May 20, 2025, 02:35:39 PM
come on thursday nights in the AVA! no quite the battles and no airplanes. totally unmolested!

Wild, and fun action in GVs.  Nonstop action.   :aok 
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: GOODBYE on May 20, 2025, 03:23:00 PM
That would be a fun one to set up this week
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Molsman on May 20, 2025, 06:57:22 PM
This week the Battles will bring ya to Kasserine and the desert land  :devil
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Shane on May 20, 2025, 08:02:31 PM
This week the Battles will bring ya to Kasserine and the desert land  :devil

I saw the setup.  One thing to add maybe, remind the axis the long barreled pnzr4F is the appropriate version over the short barrel.  I think it defaults to short barrel.
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Molsman on May 20, 2025, 11:18:20 PM
I did not know that Shane that we could change the barrel length or can it be changed .
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Eagler on May 21, 2025, 07:11:15 AM
Tried vr in a tank last night and the view from the main gun doesn't seem to work?

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

Eagler
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: captain1ma on May 21, 2025, 07:25:52 AM
i wish i could help you eagler, i wont get my VR back until i move back in my house....which should be shortly!
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: The Fugitive on May 21, 2025, 07:36:23 AM
Tried vr in a tank last night and the view from the main gun doesn't seem to work?

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

Eagler

It might be something simple like moving your head forward to an eye piece to look through, but I havent used VR in a tank yet. I know in a bomber you have to look down to look through the bomb site.
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Shane on May 21, 2025, 07:37:37 AM
I did not know that Shane that we could change the barrel length or can it be changed .

Yeah, it took me a while before I figured it out since the short barreled options are the last 3 of 7 loadouts.  I'm probably wrong in that it defaults to the short barrel, so it should be good to go.
 
(https://i.postimg.cc/76hvPV6g/armorchrtp4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/kMk5ZV1j/lbp4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

(https://i.postimg.cc/CLGwQcf1/sbp4.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Eagler on May 21, 2025, 07:44:27 AM
It might be something simple like moving your head forward to an eye piece to look through, but I havent used VR in a tank yet. I know in a bomber you have to look down to look through the bomb site.

It was like the view was super close up with the mouse dot being this huge orb..

I'll try to lean into it tonight and see if it gets better

Thanks

Eagler
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: captain1ma on May 21, 2025, 08:22:40 AM
Hey shane, that first picture with the tank graphic. how do you get to that? --thanks
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Shane on May 21, 2025, 08:41:04 AM
Hey shane, that first picture with the tank graphic. how do you get to that? --thanks

Similar to popping out the speed and climb rates on planes, there's a "vehicle armor" line to click that gives this data on penetration and armor protections.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sg3h26FQ/gvarmor.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/fJgL2vRD)
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: captain1ma on May 21, 2025, 08:44:13 AM
cool thanks, i never knew that was there!
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: ZE on May 21, 2025, 09:02:04 AM
It was like the view was super close up with the mouse dot being this huge orb..
I'll try to lean into it tonight and see if it gets better
Thanks
Eagler

Same happens to my VR Eagler, but whne trying to zoom, it's huge and lost target....
ZE
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Shane on May 21, 2025, 11:18:02 AM
I did not know that Shane that we could change the barrel length or can it be changed .

If you wanted a real "early war" ish tank matchup,  use the short barrel (even for both sides) alongside the 75mm M3 and M8.
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Alpo on May 21, 2025, 11:33:40 AM

Similar to popping out the speed and climb rates on planes, there's a "vehicle armor" line to click that gives this data on penetration and armor protections.


Wow, I can mark this as a successful day in that I have learned something new.   :rock
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Shane on May 21, 2025, 11:33:49 AM
cool thanks, i never knew that was there!
(Now you know why I had been vocal about mis-matchups, particularly the T34/85 vs Panzer4H   :aok )

This is also why the early 75mm sherman struggles against the Pzk4H (look at armor): the 76mm sherman is the more appropriate mathcup vs the pzk4H while the 75mm shermans are more suitable vs the pzk4F long barreled.

Compare the armor and shell penetration values.

75mm sherman
(https://i.postimg.cc/sX612BHG/75mmsherman.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Panzer4F (short and long barrel info)
(https://i.postimg.cc/XJz7bRXw/pkz4f.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

76mm Sherman
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZqJqFP1y/76mm-sherman.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)

Panzer4H
(https://i.postimg.cc/MZgV04tM/pkz4h.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Yarbles on May 21, 2025, 12:32:41 PM
If you wanted a real "early war" ish tank matchup,  use the short barrel (even for both sides) alongside the 75mm M3 and M8.

 :aok I would like that. By M3 I assume you mean M4 ?  The Sherman was a very successful tank in mid war.  I think a match for the contemporary Panzer 4.

My experience of the Firefly is even at modest ranges it is not a Tiger or Panther killer in ah which I do question.

I agree it might well have been slow to load and a bit inaccurate but a 17lb hit on the above I would have thought a kill most of the time.
Title: Re: Tank Battles
Post by: Shane on May 21, 2025, 12:55:18 PM
:aok I would like that. By M3 I assume you mean M4 ?  The Sherman was a very successful tank in mid war.  I think a match for the contemporary Panzer 4.

My experience of the Firefly is even at modest ranges it is not a Tiger or Panther killer in ah which I do question.

I agree it might well have been slow to load and a bit inaccurate but a 17lb hit on the above I would have thought a kill most of the time.

No, by 75mm M3, I mean exactly that (same gun, tho').   On a similar note, this M3 version, alongside the Hetzer - jagpanzer 38(t) - can also kind of represent early war field artillery (anti tank guns) in that there's no turrent traverse and on some maps, mobility is not always a factor in that you can park and still get a lot of action. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/NfFxsmFY/75mm3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ppNjk9K1)