Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: fuzeman on May 28, 2025, 07:43:38 PM
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Its a plug in gizmotch that monitors your electrical wiring and supposedly detects a possible electrical hazard before it starts a fire.
https://www.tingfire.com/how-ting-works/
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Almost sounds too good to be true if it does what it claims. Must of be filled with black magic and witchcraft to do what it promises.
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I jave a Hughs Power Watchdog for my RV. Plug it in and it checks the park wiring for faults. Then plug in your RV. Protects the RV from surges and if you over Amp it, it shuts down. Can control it and monitor it from my phone.
My home has a 24 Kw Generac and that includes a whole home surge suppressor.
Never heard of a Ting.
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AFCI breakers trip when an arc is detected which is a common cause of fire. Pain in the bellybutton here. $50 for a breaker and they seem to be easily damaged by lightning storms of which we have often.
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Arching is not always towards opposite poll. Which would cause a shirt instant breaker pop.
Breakers are controlled by heat, a short is hitting high enough temps to melt metal.
Resistance in wire is not the same, which is what they are probably metering and easy to do.
Resistance = heat. Every time copper heats up, it also builds more resistance, and the cycle begins to a point a wire can build up a lot of heat with no short causing it. A loose AC connection can cause heat.
If you have an extension cord that is warm to touch, the guage is too small, and/or is built resistance with age. Get rid of it.
I’ve has AC cables get extremely hot due to in wire being loose.
In just the right place and situation it can build to a flash point with no breaker blown.
IE never put a AC wire under carpet, ever.
-OSHA Certified :)
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AFCI breakers have electronics and are designed to detect arcing. They have been required by code here in new homes since 2017.
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AFCI breakers have electronics and are designed to detect arcing. They have been required by code here in new homes since 2017.
Good
A lot of areas or older homes out of code, if it exist, don't.
Consider this, the lit end of a cigarette is ABOUT 1,652 degrees.
An electrical arc at 120 volts, though less powerful than higher voltage arcs, can still reach extreme temperatures, potentially exceeding 35,000°F (19,400°C).
A current of 0.1 amps flowing through the body can be lethal. Currents as low as 0.03 amps can be fatal under certain conditions. Usually if it passes through a hand then your heart on the way to your grounded foot, if you're barefoot, or holding a ground in the other hand. Its the path it takes to ground that matters. If your brain or heart is in that path, good luck.
Wood normally begins to burn at about 400 degrees to 600 degrees F. However, when it's continually exposed to temperatures between 150 degrees and 250 degrees F., its ignition temperature can become as low as 200 degrees F.
I've been hit by 220 twice hook up 3 phase distribution tails to a transformer.,...I have 2 of 9 lives left. I lucked out, the wrench hit neutral too. Just through my hand to neutral.
First year of NASCAR in Chicago we lost a guy hooking up a 440v portable transformer/generator. I don't know why he didn't notice he was standing in a puddle of water, he died instantly.
A Flash arc is insanely dangerous and burns everything near it instantly.
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Was the neutral bonded to the frame?
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Was the neutral bonded to the frame?
Who? Me?
The transformer we used was a raw tail-end output connections, that were lined up. The wrench slipped on the nut connected two polls. It was not a camlock connection.
The second was an house electrician didn’t twist the ground camlock, I grabbed a large sound snake connector to move it, grabbed the frame for balance and saw god
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Any home can be equipped with AFCI breakers but it does require a box designed for them. If I could switch them out for the older I would. But then if the house burned down insurance would not pay. Multi-stranded extensions cords, lamp cords, etc... can be damaged but still work. Some or all of the wires broken but still making contact can arc. Arcs are hot.
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Well Dad built the house, he and his brothers had a small house building Company in the 1950’s and they built it. Then added a second story over the garage in the 60’s when little runts appeared. Lower level and basement has some screw in type fuses but there’s a breaker panel in garage.
Just had a fluorescent light fixture in back of garage go crispy critters.
( Sort of forgot about this post. )
So Shuffler, you don’t know a ting about it?
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Looks like it works much the same as the AFCI breakers but provides monitoring data. If so I think it would be worth having.
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If it is as sensitive as the AFCI breakers better unplug it when there are thunderstorms.
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Well Dad built the house, he and his brothers had a small house building Company in the 1950’s and they built it. Then added a second story over the garage in the 60’s when little runts appeared. Lower level and basement has some screw in type fuses but there’s a breaker panel in garage.
Just had a fluorescent light fixture in back of garage go crispy critters.
( Sort of forgot about this post. )
So Shuffler, you don’t know a ting about it?
I ting you are correct!